Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2008-01-03 Thread Astromancer
No... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aren't you glad you did? Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (sigh) I walked right into that one... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But...the Candy Man...doesn't he mix it up with love, and make the world taste good? Astromancer [EMAIL

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2008-01-02 Thread Astromancer
(sigh) I walked right into that one... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But...the Candy Man...doesn't he mix it up with love, and make the world taste good? Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or the Candy Man... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not watch the SciFi Channel's

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2008-01-02 Thread Martin
LMNAO! Now I need to go find it to watch again! Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL...My favorite line in that movie came from the only black character I remember being in it: Would you pleas pass the Ketchup? Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2008-01-01 Thread Martin
But...the Candy Man...doesn't he mix it up with love, and make the world taste good? Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or the Candy Man... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not watch the SciFi Channel's most dangerous night on television.

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-31 Thread Astromancer
Oh I'll live...you can count on it... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message -- From: Astromancer Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-31 Thread Martin
Thanks, Keith. Now I'll be walking around in the grocery store, bellowing AtACK of the Killer To-mA-TOes... ;D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know i'm joking. i've said before, i'd rather watch the b-movies from the 50s - '70s over the SciFi Originals. Give

RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-31 Thread Reece Jennings
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 3:52 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield Oh I'll live...you can count on it... KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: you haven't

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-31 Thread Martin
Keith, to summon Ol' Bub Hisself! The former and latter of that set will be airing Saturday, if memory serves... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message

RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-31 Thread Reece Jennings
/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:02 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield Thanks, Keith. Now I'll be walking around in the grocery store, bellowing AtACK

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-31 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I understand. Sometimes I see a preview, and I think to myself, that looks interesting. That might not be so bad. When Saturday comes and I turn to the movie, I might see a few minutes and it is usually so bad, I experience physical pain, so I change before I can get sucked into the vortex

RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-31 Thread Martin
a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:02 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-31 Thread Martin
I hear you, Tracey. For me, it's usually nausea. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand. Sometimes I see a preview, and I think to myself, that looks interesting. That might not be so bad. When Saturday comes and I turn to the movie, I

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-31 Thread KeithBJohnson
gggh! Fortunately I have the entire Tin Man miniseries i still need to watch... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keith, to summon Ol' Bub Hisself! The former and latter of that set will be airing Saturday, if memory serves... [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-31 Thread KeithBJohnson
welcome! what a movie! And there's always Plan 9 From Outer Space! -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Keith. Now I'll be walking around in the grocery store, bellowing AtACK of the Killer To-mA-TOes... ;D [EMAIL

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-30 Thread Astromancer
Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD,

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-30 Thread Astromancer
Or the Candy Man... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not watch the SciFi Channel's most dangerous night on television. I'd say it more than once, but I'm afraid of the Beetlejuice Effect... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-30 Thread Martin
Of late, I don't even need the sight impetus. Just got this week's TV guide, and this Saturday's offering, Beyond Loch Ness posits that Nessie's done some commuting, and has left a few kids around. Martin (off to see what the History Channel has in the way of competition for the time

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-30 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
ooo! I feel the chills. Astromancer wrote: Or the Candy Man... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not watch the SciFi Channel's most dangerous night on television. I'd say it more than once, but I'm afraid of the Beetlejuice Effect... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-30 Thread KeithBJohnson
you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-30 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I don't even bother. I watched about four times when they first started their movies. Even the ones with good genre actors were bad. After hearing reviews both on the list and around the web, I believe all of them are bad, so why waste any time hoping for a good campy b-movie. What I do

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-30 Thread KeithBJohnson
you know i'm joking. i've said before, i'd rather watch the b-movies from the 50s - '70s over the SciFi Originals. Give me The Incredible Two Headed Transplant, Day of the Triffids, even Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella

RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-29 Thread Reece Jennings
://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:26 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield Well then I'm

RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-29 Thread Reece Jennings
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:35 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures

RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-29 Thread Martin
, December 28, 2007 8:26 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield Well then I'm one too, because I agree with much that you say KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: true, or maybe i'm just a contrarian

RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-29 Thread KeithBJohnson
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield Well then I'm one too, because I agree with much that you say KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: true, or maybe i'm just a contrarian! -- Original message -- From: Tracey

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-29 Thread Astromancer
Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-29 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy,

RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-29 Thread Martin
://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:47 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield I'm in. As long as I

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-29 Thread Martin
I will not watch the SciFi Channel's most dangerous night on television. I'd say it more than once, but I'm afraid of the Beetlejuice Effect... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread KeithBJohnson
thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised.

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Mike Street
This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older. We can move forward to Gen

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Mike Street
Giant monsters don't translate in the US. Maybe just Transformers and the upcoming Voltron movie but that's about it. If this movie is about a big ass monster then they are doing an excellent marketing job cause people would not see it if it is some Godzilla type flick. On Dec 28, 2007 9:42 AM,

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
good assessment. Since I was in the target demographic at the time, I remember being drawn to those movies. Please note: most were a disappointment and did not compare to my favs which were Hitchcock, Barbara Stanwick, Jimmy Stewart, Betty Davis, Glenn Ford, Ida Lupino, Sofia Loren, Henry

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
While Godzilla never scared me, I really liked them. Big confession, I liked the Godzilla with Matthew Broderick and Jean Reno. I knew it was bad, but I liked it. I think that was a hit. What about King Kong - specifically the remake, does that fit in this genre? How did it do? Mike

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread KeithBJohnson
that's my point. I liked movies and books about people my age, but a good scifi/fantasy film starring old folks would draw me just as much. And sometimes I like older characters because I like to see some of the experience, wisdom, or world-weariness they can bring to a role, while still being

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread KeithBJohnson
and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't that way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with boys only watch movies about boys and whites only watch movies staring whites (and Will Smith) -- Original message -- From: Mike Street [EMAIL

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread KeithBJohnson
i hear you, it's just odd. I spent some time looking at all kinds of action/fantasy/scifi movies and TV shows from when I was younger. Did a lot of Star Trek research of course. The vast majority of the men and women in many roles are in their late 20s to late '30s. There doesn't seem to be a

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more money is raised with those demographics - or maybe our culture is just youth obsessed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't that way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with boys only

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I wonder why the beach movies and movies like Splendor in The Grass, Rebel without a Cause, or Westside Story did not dramatically cause the shift? They were essentially doing the same thing. I think back then, more adults considered movie going as entertainment. I'm randomizing now.

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I know what you mean. I can't see Lindsay Lohan playing world weary (even though she probably is with the life she is leading) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's my point. I liked movies and books about people my age, but a good scifi/fantasy film starring old folks would draw me just as much.

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Astromancer
...Don't forget Prince...sorry, 80's flashback... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't that way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with boys only watch movies about boys and whites only watch movies staring whites (and Will

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Martin
Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Martin
Tracey, I think our culture has *always* been youth-obsessed. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more money is raised with those demographics - or maybe our culture is just youth

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread KeithBJohnson
true, or maybe i'm just a contrarian! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more money is raised with those demographics - or maybe our culture is just youth obsessed

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Martin
No, Tracey, because I've got two here in Atlanta. Don't go to them, but they're here. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder why the beach movies and movies like Splendor in The Grass, Rebel without a Cause, or Westside

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Well then I'm one too, because I agree with much that you say [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: true, or maybe i'm just a contrarian! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I had them back in Philly and never went, but I still missed the experience. I guess it is the nostalgia of it all Martin wrote: No, Tracey, because I've got two here in Atlanta. Don't go to them, but they're here. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
True Martin wrote: Tracey, I think our culture has *always* been youth-obsessed. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more money is raised with those demographics - or maybe our

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Martin
I went past one a couple of months back, and specifically told myself that I needed to go, just for the nostalgia. I grew up in a small town in Virginia, and it was all that we had in the way of a theater for years. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Martin
Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I have trouble watching those, but some I do. I like the ones were a woman is a Black Widow Spider killing off lustful unsuspecting men who cross her path. Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures.

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Martin
More than trouble for me. A few weeks ago, some of my kind friends :P saw fit to treat me to Movie Night. Arachnophobia, followed by Eight Legged Freaks. I didn't sleep well for some time afterward... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have trouble

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Martin
So do I, lady. Anyone for The Green Slime? The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms? And anything with Gamera in it, of course. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread GWashin891
In a message dated 12/28/07 2:35:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While Godzilla never scared me, I really liked them.  Big confession, I liked the Godzilla with Matthew Broderick and Jean Reno.  I knew it was bad, but I liked it.  I think that was a hit.  What about King Kong -

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
You are dead on with you analysis. The Broderick /camera crew aspect was weak and needed to be tweaked or reduced and Jean Reno... as Gymfig would say, he has IT I'm a big fan. His character should have been broadened. I realize that would never happen because this was an American

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-28 Thread GWashin891
In a message dated 12/28/07 11:24:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are dead on with you analysis.  The Broderick /camera crew aspect was weak and needed to be tweaked or reduced and Jean Reno... as Gymfig would say, he has IT  I'm a big fan.  His character should have been broadened. I

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-27 Thread Daryle
Yeah I¹m with you on this. I was sorta excited when the first trailer dropped, but now, I¹m all in. I have a feeling that this might be the first time in a long time that the film may be better than the trailer, because I don¹t get a lot of information from the trailer. Which is SO REFRESHING!

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-27 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-27 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
found some pix of the monster http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias,

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-27 Thread Martin
Sort of a Cthtulu look to it. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: found some pix of the monster http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-27 Thread Mike Street
try researching Slusho and you'll find out a lot more of what Cloverfield is all about. There is a lot going on with the movie and there are several fake MySpace pages which info on the movie it all ties into an elaborate online game millions are playing right in online and offline On Dec 27,

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-27 Thread KeithBJohnson
yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-27 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money