RE: CSquestions: stir vs. bubble

2002-01-19 Thread I Anderson
Gaston, I tried bubbling with first with air and then argon. I found in using air that I was seeing a definite Tyndall Beam (TE for Alison) with many sparkles, which is not acceptable in my product. Argon was better, but too expensive, so I only use that as a pressure source for my filter (0.2um

RE: CScolloidal gold.

2002-01-19 Thread I Anderson
Satchid, The standard reduction potential of gold is 1.52V Au --- Au+++ or 1.83V --- Au+. The only thing that stops this reaction occurring at near this voltage is electrode polarisation, which may be overcome in an acidic solution. Note that this method results in ionic gold and perhaps should

Re: CSPolarity Switch Experiment

2002-01-19 Thread Kevin Nolan
Thanks for performing that interesting experiment, Steve. I,ve yet to put a switching circuit together, but in thinking about your results there seems only one likely possibility. Plate-out rate must be considerably higher on a 'fresh' electrode surface (corresponding to the polarity switching

Re: CSsource for silver wire

2002-01-19 Thread Ode Coyote
www.ccsilver.com and www.monsterslayer.com are both good people to deal with and a good supply should cost you under $10. Pure silver wire is very hard to find locally for any sort of good price. Ken At 09:00 AM 1/18/02 -0700, you wrote: If I wanted to purchase silver wire locally, where

Re: CSquestions: stir vs. bubble

2002-01-19 Thread Ode Coyote
Someone mentioned a lot of sparklies when using a bubbler. This could be dust and pollen. A thought here... If one adds just a little H2O2 to the water at start, silver flakes will form. Is it possible that adding a lot of oxygen to the electrolyzing water [by bubbling] might make some

Re: CSfirst batch

2002-01-19 Thread Ode Coyote
Distilled water will take much much longer than boiled water as the initial conductivity of the distilled is much less. ken At 07:16 PM 1/19/02 +1300, you wrote: My mother and I made our first batches of CS today. ( I had made a trial batch using boiled water last week but only got my

Re: CSPolarity Switch Experiment

2002-01-19 Thread Kevin Nolan
There is one other possibility not mentioned below - a much higher ratio of true CS to ionic silver for the polarity switched case. Given your faint tyndal effect observations in both cases, that possibility seems to be ruled out. Kevin Nolan - Original Message - From: Kevin Nolan

Re: CScolloidal gold.

2002-01-19 Thread Kevin Nolan
Ivan - suppose one used LVDC and an acid solution to produce ionic gold solution. Are there not chemical reduction methods that might not produce an acceptably fine gold colloid? I imagine rapid stirring may be needed when adding, eg, sodium carbonate (just guessing here). Traditional CG has been

CSCG

2002-01-19 Thread rob-bac
Thanks Ole-Bob and others, for your comments how to start with CG making. Especially the drawing of Ole Bob's elektrode holder I copied on paper and will study that. Probably next week I will pick up a CG generator from a friend who bought one from the US, we can use that here with an extra

Re: CSLearning the lingo

2002-01-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
I am not aware of a list, might not be a bad idea. Here are some off the top of my head: CS colloidal silver CG colloidal gold CC colloidal copper HERX herximer reaction CFS cronic fatigue syndrom MS multiple schlorosis I notice that often when a disease starts being mentioned that has a long

Re: CSfirst batch

2002-01-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
aliso...@ihug.co.nz wrote: My mothers batch, even after an hour she could not see wisps tho she had the rising bubbles and the tarnished rods. Can we assume that she has made CS? Yes, she did use distilled water at room temperature. She is 65 and her eyes are not as good as they once

RE: CSquestions: stir vs. bubble

2002-01-19 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
My experience is that just allowing water to stand loosely covered in a gallon beaker will allow it to absorb enough CO2 to increase the conductivity and lower the pH. It follows that bubbling will greatly accelerate that process up to the point that the water will accept no more.

CSSilver wire source

2002-01-19 Thread Terry Chamberlin
I buy my wire from Sausalito Precious Metals, in Calif. 1-800-262-5367 Good prices __ Web-hosting solutions for home and business! http://website.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal

RE: CSCG

2002-01-19 Thread Satchid
Ok, I made CG now for the first time. I have 2 neon transformer primary coils in parallel, secondary (high voltage) in series. Then made 2 holes in a 1/4 plastic plate and inserted 2 gold wires trough them. I bend them to have approximately 1 mm gap between them. then I connected the High-tension

RE: CSCG

2002-01-19 Thread Trem
Hi Satchid, The problem with sparking is that it transmits at ALL frequencies at once and is not tunable. That's because arcing is basically a square wave. Square waves are made up of all frequencies. It will be picked up on all bands from LF to AM to FM to TV, etc. Your best bet is to

Re: CSCG

2002-01-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
Satchid wrote: Ok, I made CG now for the first time. I have 2 neon transformer primary coils in parallel, secondary (high voltage) in series. This will burn up one or both transformers within a day or two. Already made that mistake myself when I first started working with them. The

CSSimple test: questions: stir vs. bubble

2002-01-19 Thread Connie
OK, here are the results of the simple test I did last night: I put 22 ozs. DW into a ball large mouth jar with my 5 gal. acquarium bubbler. Hanna reading prior to start =1.5 ppm I let it bubble for 2 1/2 hrs. Hanna reading =6.3ppm I simply unplugged the bubbler, loosely placed alum. foil over

Re: CSCG

2002-01-19 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Morning Marshall, Ok, I made CG now for the first time. I have 2 neon transformer primary coils in parallel, secondary (high voltage) in series. This will burn up one or both transformers within a day or two. Already made that mistake myself when I first started working with them. The

RE: CSQuestion about saline other stuff

2002-01-19 Thread I Anderson
Hi Laura, -Original Message- From: gotoh...@aol.com [mailto:gotoh...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2002 3:54 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSQuestion about saline other stuff Sorry to be so ignorant, I am definitely not good at chemistry, but my question re:

RE: CSPolarity Switch Experiment

2002-01-19 Thread I Anderson
Nice test Steve, thanks. What is interesting is that at polarity reversal time, the voltage rises up and settles back to the pre-switch voltage in just a few seconds. Thus one would think the production strength would not be affected more than 10% or so instead of over 50%. Well it is

RE: CSfirst batch

2002-01-19 Thread I Anderson
Hi Alison, congratulations on your first batch! It is not always possible to see any reaction at all from the electrodes, depending upon the generator set-up. But the taste test should prove whether you have succeeded or not (most unlikely not to succeed). Also you should notice that one

CSTE laser light pens - more questions!

2002-01-19 Thread alisonbm
Hello again, thanks to those who responded to my previous questions. Now I have more. Several people/websites have mentioned using laser light pens to view the TE. Is a laser light pen the same as a laser pointer ? I can only find laser pointers on a New Zealand electronics website (DSE

Re: CSQuestion about saline other stuff

2002-01-19 Thread boberger
Hi Laura, DO NOT use salt for ANYTHING The nasal spray is made with 90% cs and 10% DMSO. I suggest that you go to the archives and look up Brooks Bradley and run through his work with a research lab. If it is off color on the darck side do not use it. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is

RE: CSCG

2002-01-19 Thread Satchid
To all on the list. This is to thank you all for your input to help other people to get some of their goals fulfilled and others to survive. I thank you all specially for the help you gave me concerning the making of this CG generator. Thank you all. Satchid -Original Message- From:

Re: CSquestions: stir vs. bubble

2002-01-19 Thread Gaston
Ivan, Ole Bob and others, Thanks for your reply. I just have completed a DW (distilled water) test this afternoon using a bubbler only. I used approx. 16 oz. of DW and I set it up exactly as normal except no power applied during that period. (I did not apply the 30V dc that I normally use). I

RE: CSPolarity Switch Experiment

2002-01-19 Thread Trem
Hi Ivan, We had AA testing done on samples from our SG6 which does not have polarity reversal and also on our SG7 which does reverse polarity and found both units produce about 85% ionic. Apparently it makes no difference...at least in our units. What now? Trem At 10:41 AM 1/20/2002

Re: CSTE laser light pens - more questions!

2002-01-19 Thread Trem
Hi Alison, You may want to take a look at http://silvergen.com/colloida2.htmIt shows Tyndall effect. Trem At 11:18 AM 1/20/2002 +1300, you wrote: Hello again, thanks to those who responded to my previous questions. Now I have more. Several people/websites have mentioned using

Re: CSfirst batch

2002-01-19 Thread boberger
Hi Alison, Don't worry about whisps or other subliminate effects. The better the DW the longer it take to get CS started. If you can find an inexpense Digital multimeter put that in the circuit to measure the cell current. It will be your EYES as to what is going on in the process. That way

CSDefinitions

2002-01-19 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Computer Acronyms PCMCIA - People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms BASIC - Bill's Attempt to Seize Industry Control ISDN - It Still Does Nothing APPLE - Arrogance Produces Profit-Losing Entity WWW - World Wide Wait SCSI - System Can't See It DOS - Defunct Operating System

CSLearning the lingo list

2002-01-19 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Here it is: Internet Abbreviations AFK - Away from keyboard BAK - Back at keyboard BBS - Be back soon/shortly BG - Big grin BRB - Be right back BTW - By the way CYA - See ya CYAL8TR - See ya later (or CUL8R/CUL) F2F - Face to face FYI - For your information G - Grin (smile) GA - Go

Re: CSLearning the lingo list

2002-01-19 Thread Connie
Forgot ROFLMAO-rolling on the floor laughing my a** off ;o)) From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 18:52:34 -0500 (EST) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSLearning the lingo list Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date:

CSRe[2]: CSCG

2002-01-19 Thread Solar
Hello Marshall, Saturday, January 19, 2002, 1:09:05 PM, you wrote: MD Satchid wrote: Ok, I made CG now for the first time. I have 2 neon transformer primary coils in parallel, secondary (high voltage) in series. This will burn up one or both transformers within a day or two. Already made

RE: CScolloidal gold.

2002-01-19 Thread I Anderson
Yes Kevin, But then why go to the trouble of electrically generating ionic gold when one can purchase soluble gold chloride. Chemical reduction of gold chloride by various compounds (tannic acid, sodium citrate, etc.) as you mention is the traditional way of making commercial and batch

Re: CSPolarity Switch Experiment

2002-01-19 Thread S J Young
Ivan, Remember my generator produces a constant current, so the current can't dip at reversal. Instead, the voltage goes up to maintain the constant current. In other words, the solution's apparent conductivity goes down (resistance goes up) for a few seconds at reversal. Or, the coatings on

Re: CSMagnesium oxide

2002-01-19 Thread Leo Regehr
I have plenty of magnisium oxide powder on hand. Do I mix it in water for an enema, and if so, in what proportion? Leo Duncan Crow wrote: | First Tracy, I suspect Homozon is magnesium oxide, just check the label. Homozon is a type of magnesium peroxide, specially prepared to donate singlet

CSsolving plate-out

2002-01-19 Thread Kevin Nolan
In silver Digest V 102 #68, Ode Coyoye wrote: ... Stir speed: I've found that stirring too fast promotes a build up of a fuzzy grey deposit that grows opposite to the direction of the water currents. I believe this to be caused by water pressure keeping the size of the hydrogen

Re: CSSimple test: questions: stir vs. bubble

2002-01-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
A good follow up test would be to heat the water to at or near boiling and let cool down and retest. If it is CO2 absorption, the ppm should drop back down. If it is contamination it should stay high. Marshall Connie wrote: OK, here are the results of the simple test I did last night: I put

Re: CSCG

2002-01-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
Wayne Fugitt wrote: Morning Marshall, Ok, I made CG now for the first time. I have 2 neon transformer primary coils in parallel, secondary (high voltage) in series. This will burn up one or both transformers within a day or two. Already made that mistake myself when I first started

Re: CSTE laser light pens - more questions!

2002-01-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
aliso...@ihug.co.nz wrote: Hello again, thanks to those who responded to my previous questions. Now I have more. Several people/websites have mentioned using laser light pens to view the TE. Is a laser light pen the same as a laser pointer ? I can only find laser pointers on a New

RE: CSPolarity Switch Experiment

2002-01-19 Thread I Anderson
Sorry Kevin, You did indeed say: ...a much higher ratio of true CS to ionic silver for the polarity switched case. Given your faint tyndal effect observations in both cases, that possibility seems to be ruled out. which is the opposite to what I said you said. Ivan. -Original Message-

CSHi, I'm a new member...

2002-01-19 Thread Eric Newsome
Hello. My name is Shirley. I am here because my son, who has autism has Candida. I am interested in starting him on CS to clear up his Candida. We are trying to chelate the mercury from his body, but everytime we chelate a round, it aggravates his Candida, which makes him aggressive. We have

CSpregnancy

2002-01-19 Thread natural_essentials
Is there any reason to worry about taking CS during pregnancy? My initial thought is no, since it's only suppose to effect single cellular organisms. Leacy Life is Good! GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM

RE: CSPolarity Switch Experiment

2002-01-19 Thread I Anderson
Steve, As I understand the passage of current in aqueous systems. The passage of current is wholly dependent upon the movement of ions. As ions have size and weight, they also have inertia and drag and therefore will lag the application of potential and change in polarity. Indeed, with the

RE: CSPolarity Switch Experiment

2002-01-19 Thread I Anderson
-Original Message- From: Trem [mailto:t...@silvergen.com] Hi Ivan, We had AA testing done on samples from our SG6 which does not have polarity reversal and also on our SG7 which does reverse polarity and found both units produce about 85% ionic. Apparently it makes no

RE: CSquestions: stir vs. bubble

2002-01-19 Thread I Anderson
Connie and Gaston, Thanks for taking the time to do those tests and post the results. It is obvious that at least some increase in conductivity is found as a result of bubbling. It could be, as you add silver ions then further CO2 may be dissolved, but whether it is worth finding out, I don't