Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-13 Thread Ode Coyote
for under $100 additional, and can be recalibrated in the field with standard solutions and if necessary returned to the maker for NIST recert. At 10:47 AM 10/11/2003 -0400, you wrote: url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63382.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Ode Coyote

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-13 Thread Ode Coyote
OH yes It's obvious now ..and it works too! :-) Ode At 07:32 PM 10/12/2003 -0500, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 7:04 AM Subject: Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms So, If it's 60 deg F

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-12 Thread Ode Coyote
:47 AM 10/11/2003 -0400, you wrote: url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63382.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Ode Coyote Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:08:22 Ken, Thanks you for some very important information on PWT problems. My turn. All I can say is WOW. I got hints of PWT

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-12 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
be recalibrated in the field with standard solutions and if necessary returned to the maker for NIST recert. At 10:47 AM 10/11/2003 -0400, you wrote: url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63382.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Ode Coyote Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:08:22 Ken, Thanks you

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-12 Thread Ode Coyote
So, If it's 60 deg F the adjustment should still be to 84 uS ? It's only about a 10 uS difference. Is there a line in the calibration instructions that state that? Essentially: PWT Instructions read..insert meter, twiddle screw till it reads 84 uS. [no mention of using chart] Why is the temp

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-12 Thread Al Davis
- Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 7:04 AM Subject: Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms So, If it's 60 deg F the adjustment should still be to 84 uS ? It's only about a 10 uS difference. Why is the temp

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-11 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms Hi, Richard, Thanks for the link and for the nice message. Unfortunately, in trying to view the pages on your site, I keep getting a demand to log in and provide a password.Is there a way to access your page without

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-11 Thread Ode Coyote
The problem is that you have no way of knowing if you got a bad bottle or not, or, how bad it is, especially if it's not so WAY bad as to be totally unbelievable like that bad one I got. A 'single' bad bottle in a batch number that is supposedly good indicates a quality control problem.

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-11 Thread Ode Coyote
The problem is that you have no way of knowing if you got a bad bottle or not, or, how bad it is, especially if it's not so WAY bad as to be totally unbelievable like that bad one I got. A 'single' bad bottle in a batch number that is supposedly good indicates a quality control problem.

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-11 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63382.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Ode Coyote Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:08:22 Ken, Thanks you for some very important information on PWT problems. My turn. All I can say is WOW. I got hints of PWT problems from reading the archives

CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-11 Thread Trem
27 80.6 87 28 82.4 89 29 842 90 30 86.0 92 31 87.8 94 I hope this helps. Trem - Original Message - From: Vince Richter cvin...@ala.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 8:13 PM Subject: [silver_list] CSTrem; was RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms Trem

RE: CSTrem; was RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-11 Thread Vince Richter
That sounds great to me :) Vince -Original Message- From: S J Young [mailto:you...@konnections.net] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 10:10 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTrem; was RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms Vince, One of the features of the PWT is that it senses

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2003-10-11 Thread Vince Richter
...@silvergen.com] Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 9:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMeasuring very high ppms Hi Vince, The PWT has a temperature compensator. The s.s. tube on the left side is the probe. So, when calibrating just let it stabilize at whatever temperature the solution

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms, mold

2003-10-10 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
/health/thesilverlist/m63249.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms, mold From: Malcolm Stebbins Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:31:47 Hi Mike, Thanks for your previous post Meanwhile, regarding the presencc of headache producing mold and spores in your environment, have you tried using

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-10 Thread BioSil
Lovely stuff! thank you! :o) - Original Message - From: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 4:31 PM Subject: RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms Hi Jonathan Mike, My humble thanks to each of you

RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-10 Thread Richard Harris
...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:38 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms Hi, Richard, Thanks for the link and for the nice message. Unfortunately, in trying to view the pages on your site, I keep getting a demand to log in and provide

RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-10 Thread Richard Harris
regards, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Hank [mailto:h...@arkansas.net] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms I went to all his pages, Just clicked cancel when it ask for the password

CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-10 Thread Trem
- Original Message - From: Mike Monett 31dtzj...@sneakemail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 1:41 PM Subject: [silver_list] Re: CSRe: Measuring very high ppms The Hanna PWT would be an excellent method if I could find some way to guarantee the

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-10 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63355.html CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Trem Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:27:45 Mike, The meter can easily be calibrated if you use the calibration solution from Hanna. I got one box of 16 bottles of solution that was defective

CSTrem; was RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-10 Thread Vince Richter
calibrate my meter, I wondered how meticulous I need to be, and how much difference a few degrees would make. Thanks, Vince -Original Message- From: Trem [mailto:t...@silvergen.com] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 4:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMeasuring very high ppms

Re: CSTrem; was RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-10 Thread S J Young
- From: Vince Richter cvin...@ala.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 9:13 PM Subject: CSTrem; was RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms Trem, since the subject came up, how much difference does the calibration temperature make? I know the cal needs to be done

Re: CSTrem; was RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-10 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63372.html Re: CSTrem; was RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: S J Young Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:11:52 Vince, One of the features of the PWT is that it senses the temperature of the solution being measured and does an automatic

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-09 Thread Ode Coyote
At 06:19 PM 10/7/2003 -0400, you wrote: url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63187.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Ode Coyote Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:39:19 Colloidal Copper is said to be more effective on molds and fungi. Yes, I find it much more effective

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ode Coyote wrote: At 06:19 PM 10/7/2003 -0400, you wrote: url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63187.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Ode Coyote Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:39:19 Colloidal Copper is said to be more effective on molds and fungi. Yes, I find it much

RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-09 Thread Richard Harris
, 2003 9:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63227.html RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Richard Harris Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:31:58 Hi Turtle, My heart goes out to you Mike and all your loved ones

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-09 Thread Dan Nave
Jonathan B. Britten wrote: I for one can deal with scientific subjects so long as the author makes a small effort to avoid unnecessary jargon, and use plain English whenever possible. I am looking forward to many postings apropos the advantages and disadvantages of CS from the

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-09 Thread CKing001
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 09:47:01 -0500, Dan Nave dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com wrote: What does apropos mean? ;-)) Dan ap·ro·pos (ap'r?-po') adj. Being at once opportune and to the point. See synonyms at relevant. adv. At an appropriate time; opportunely. By the way; incidentally: Apropos, where

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-09 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
, October 08, 2003 9:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63227.html RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Richard Harris Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:31:58 Hi Turtle, My heart goes out to you Mike and all your loved

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-09 Thread Hank
: Thursday, October 09, 2003 8:37 PM Subject: Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms Hi, Richard, Thanks for the link and for the nice message. Unfortunately, in trying to view the pages on your site, I keep getting a demand to log in and provide a password.Is there a way to access your page

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-09 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63306.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Jonathan B. Britten Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 18:36:48 Hi, Richard, Thanks for the link and for the nice message. Unfortunately, in trying to view the pages on your site, I keep getting

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-08 Thread turtle
Hi Mike, Can you, are any one on the list tell me how you measure for mold spores? I live with my wife and 3 cats, we all have allergy/flu type symptoms. Have been taking CS for a couple of months. TIA, turtle Hi Ken, I'm sorry I have not been able to respond to your posts

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-08 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63219.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: turtle Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:20:23 Hi Mike, Can you, are any one on the list tell me how you measure for mold spores? I live with my wife and 3 cats, we all have allergy/flu type

RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-08 Thread James Holmes
: CSMeasuring very high ppms url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63219.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: turtle Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:20:23 Hi Mike, Can you, are any one on the list tell me how you measure for mold spores? I live with my wife and 3 cats, we all

RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-08 Thread Richard Harris
] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 3:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63219.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: turtle Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:20:23 Hi Mike, Can you, are any one on the list tell me

RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-08 Thread Richard Harris
Sorry Turtle Mike, that was an Ultra-violet light in the A/C system. -Original Message- From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms Hi Turtle, My heaqrt goes out to you

RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-08 Thread Medwith, Robert
, October 08, 2003 10:47 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Richard Harris Subject: RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms Sorry Turtle Mike, that was an Ultra-violet light in the A/C system. -Original Message- From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:27 AM

RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-08 Thread James Holmes
@eskimo.com' Subject: RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms Ultra-Violet and Infra-Red are they one and the same. Both are listed. This sounds interesting How good is a Electronic air Cleaner mounted on Cold Air Return to furnace what will it take out. Bob -Original Message- From: Richard

RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-08 Thread Richard Harris
for under $100. Best regards, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Medwith, Robert [mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 11:23 AM To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Subject: RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms Ultra-Violet and Infra

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-08 Thread Marshall Dudley
:23 AM To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Subject: RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms Ultra-Violet and Infra-Red are they one and the same. Both are listed. This sounds interesting How good is a Electronic air Cleaner mounted on Cold Air Return to furnace what

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-08 Thread Robert Berger
Robert, Infa red does not have germ killing powers that are found in the ultra violent end of the spectrum.. They areat different ends of the light spectrum. Ole Bob Medwith, Robert wrote: Ultra-Violet and Infra-Red are they one and the same. Both are listed. This sounds interesting How

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms, mold

2003-10-08 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63086.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Ode Coyote Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 05:43:48 If the PWT ignores oxides and there are a lot of oxides [or metallic silver micro particles] then the PWT reading equating uS to PPM will not be at unity

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms, mold

2003-10-08 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63249.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms, mold From: Malcolm Stebbins Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:31:47 Hi Mike, Thanks for your previous post on inductive and other sources of (non)-interference with CS generators, I'll respond

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-08 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
: CSMeasuring very high ppms Ultra-Violet and Infra-Red are they one and the same. Both  are listed. This sounds interesting How good is a Electronic air Cleaner mounted on Cold Air Return to furnace what will it take out.   Bob -Original Message- From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms, mold

2003-10-08 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
in many cases; no vapor barrier at all.) I am confident that by using the ceramic powder you can eliminate your problems for good. JBB On Thursday, Oct 9, 2003, at 09:11 Asia/Tokyo, Mike Monett wrote: url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63249.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-08 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:47 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Richard Harris Subject: RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms Sorry Turtle Mike, that was an Ultra-violet light in the A/C system. -Original Message- From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003

RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-08 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63227.html RE: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Richard Harris Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:31:58 Hi Turtle, My heart goes out to you Mike and all your loved ones. Many people are sensitive to cat dander as well as mold spores

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms, mold

2003-10-08 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63253.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms, mold From: Jonathan B. Britten Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:29:30 Mike, Once again, I HIGHLY recommend trying EMX ceramics. You can get a lot of information about these by joining the EMHealth group

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms, mold

2003-10-08 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
, Mike Monett wrote: url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63253.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms, mold From: Jonathan B. Britten Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:29:30 Mike, Once again, I HIGHLY recommend trying EMX ceramics. You can get a lot of information about these by joining

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-08 Thread turtle
Thanks for all the replies re: mold. I haven't noticed any odor, will observe more closely. Also, start a journal to try to narrow the cause down. Mowed the grass for 2 hours today and am a lot worse tonight. Perhaps my problem is more common allergies than mold, I hope so. Have started to

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms, mold

2003-10-08 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63261.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms, mold From: Jonathan B. Britten Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:07:40 Hi, Mike, There is a US distributor that has, I think, the ceramic powder. EMRO is one provider; Sustainable Community

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-07 Thread M. G. Devour
Hi Reid, You write: How dow the stay in solution, not precipitating? I still have part of a batch made about six months ago, which has remained stable for that long. Anyone? Your current process reminds me of the one I developed for my own use a couple of years after I started making CS. I

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-07 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63086.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Ode Coyote Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 05:43:48 If the PWT ignores oxides and there are a lot of oxides [or metallic silver micro particles] then the PWT reading equating uS to PPM

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-07 Thread Ode Coyote
-0400, you wrote: url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63086.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Ode Coyote Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 05:43:48 If the PWT ignores oxides and there are a lot of oxides [or metallic silver micro particles] then the PWT reading equating uS

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-07 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63187.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Ode Coyote Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:39:19 Colloidal Copper is said to be more effective on molds and fungi. Yes, I find it much more effective. But it doesn't last long, maybe a day or less

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-06 Thread Reid Harvey
Mike, Let's pretend I'm dumb (ignoring reality?). My new impression is that I can determine ppm for combined forms of silver by measuring weight loss of electrodes. Then ppm, with or without some fudge factor, equals mgs. per liter. Are you saying that an easier way of determing ppm, rather

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-06 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63079.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Reid Harvey Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 01:28:31 Mike, Let's pretend I'm dumb (ignoring reality?). My new impression is that I can determine ppm for combined forms of silver by measuring weight

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-06 Thread Reid Harvey
Dan, Mike, Ode, It seems I have wrongly assumed that the particles in solution are mostly silver metal, this given the low percentage of ions. Now it seems that the vast majority of those particles are silver oxide and silver hydroxide. Either way, I do know that CS is more aptly referred to as

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-06 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63081.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Reid Harvey Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 02:27:04 Dan, Mike, Ode, It seems I have wrongly assumed that the particles in solution are mostly silver metal, this given the low percentage of ions. Now

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-06 Thread Ode Coyote
## If the PWT ignores oxides and there are a lot of oxides [or metallic silver micro particles] then the PWT reading equating uS to PPM will not be at unity. Hence, the fudge factors. At 3 uS, it's almost certain that the CS is 99+% ionic and the PWT will be very close to unity. At 27 uS, it's

CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-05 Thread Dan Nave
Reid, All things considered, since you are in Nepal and you are making large quantities of very high ppm CS, I think the easiest and cheapest way of determining the ppm of the solution would be the method recently suggested by Mike Monett to actually weigh the silver anode at the beginning and at

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-05 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63046.html CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Dan Nave Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 09:16:03 Reid, All things considered, since you are in Nepal and you are making large quantities of very high ppm CS, I think the easiest and cheapest way

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-05 Thread Reid Harvey
Dan, Mike, Ode, Thanks for all this, and now I feel I'm on my way. How depressing, that momentary fear I had only 24ppm! Dan, I highly appreciate your idea of weighing the annode, but appear to have two two of these, in as much as there's a lot of polarity switching, so I've got to weigh both

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-05 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63052.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Reid Harvey Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:23:49 Dan, Mike, Ode, Thanks for all this, and now I feel I'm on my way. How depressing, that momentary fear I had only 24ppm! Dan, I highly appreciate

Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms

2003-10-05 Thread Mike Monett
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63053.html Re: CSMeasuring very high ppms From: Mike Monett Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 14:03:41 Just a note - in order to use the Faraday equations, you need to verify the current density is not so high that it produces oxygen at the anode