ME TOO, GLAD WE GOT THAT OUT IN THE OPEN. NUF SAID.
TEL TOFFLEMIRE
ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO 87114
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I asked the question and didn't realise that I kicked the hornets nest!
All I wanted to know is what ppm I was producing given a particular uS reading!
But I have learnt a lot!
Since I am using a very low current per area and my electrodes are very large
and far apart, with current control I am
to .25mA
with a rod 1^2 area. Must try it soon.
Regards,
Tony Moody
On 20 Jan 2012 at 16:14, Asif Nathekar wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSPPM vs uS
I asked the question and didn't realise that I kicked the hornets nest!
All I wanted to know is what ppm I was producing given a particular uS
to all
Asif.
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From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 7:47 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPPM vs uS
Hallo Asif,
Thank you for your detailed info. I have saved it because (I think) it is
info
20, 2012 7:47 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPPM vs uS
Hallo Asif,
Thank you for your detailed info. I have saved it because (I think)
it is info that is not common
knowledge here. What sort of current control are you using. I use a
simple fet circuit for the
1mA setting
you're making good stuff, keep it that way and you'll be fine.
Disclaimer g:...I act and speak for myself only using my own research for
determining what constitutes an A1 product.
N.
Subject: Re: CSPPM vs uS
From: asifnathe...@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 16:14:53 +
To: silver-list
Way to go N. It's been a while since I have read the truth--that
matters. Most blind people could make good quality CS if the truth
was known. Don't leave the site. We need real thinkers too.
Tel Tofflemire
I'll second this. I would miss your posts if you left.
PT
From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@cableone.net]
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 11:02 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPPM vs uS
Way to go N. It's been a while since I have read the truth--that matters.
Most blind
.
N.
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Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 03:03:47 +
Subject: Re: CSPPM vs uS
From: mothman...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Take your problem somewhere else
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:08 AM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.comwrote:
8-12ppm would
a
spade, as opposed to a 'long wooden handled digging implement'. If I get flak
for that, then so be it!
Adios from the uneducated truth seeker.
N.
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:00:03 -0600
Subject: Re: CSPPM vs uS
From: mnels...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
There should be a frequently asked
Dumb question -- is the Hanna Tester a uS meter?
MA
From: Trem t...@silvergen.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, January 12, 2012 7:55:17 PM
Subject: Re: CSPPM vs uS
Wrong D Glover! uS meters are very close to spot on. We had samples analyzed
about
The minute power is removed from the electrodes, conductivity starts
dropping and may drop as much as 50%
Once it has stopped dropping. then the uS number is about the same number
as derived by a device that actually measures PPM.
A PPM [TDS] meter roughly doubles the uS value of the
Hanna does make TDS meters and they are identified as TDS. The PWT meter is
marked uS and also PWT
Trem
- Original Message -
From: MaryAnn Helland
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: CSPPM vs uS
Dumb question -- is the Hanna
Ken,
Don't you mean the TDS meter halves the uS value of the solution?
Trem
- Original Message -
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:18 AM
Subject: Re: CSPPM vs uS
The minute power is removed from
Yes, I should have said whatever the name for the meter is, rather than
what it measures.
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
I think you mean don't bother with a PWT meter.
Dan
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:40 PM, D Glover mothman...@gmail.com wrote:
Asif,
:20 PM, MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.netwrote:
Dumb question -- is the Hanna Tester a uS meter?
MA
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*From:* Trem t...@silvergen.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Thu, January 12, 2012 7:55:17 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSPPM vs uS
Wrong D Glover! uS
had tested indicating total silver content for each, and brewed for
identical time frames?
I'm the voice of an uneducated punter, humour me.
N.
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 00:05:13 +
Subject: Re: CSPPM vs uS
From: mothman...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Hi Trem, when I read the thread I
.
--
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 00:05:13 +
Subject: Re: CSPPM vs uS
From: mothman...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Hi Trem, when I read the thread I saw that uS was what was being measured,
no mention of one of your meters was there, so naturally assumed a TDS
meter was being
to my request for your laboratory analysis reports,
I rest my case.
N.
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 03:03:47 +
Subject: Re: CSPPM vs uS
From: mothman...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Take your problem somewhere else
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:08 AM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote
Several variations to uS/PPM conversions but that's near enough for me without
laboratory analysis. That's all I do, just halve it, and it's close enough
when comparing the 3 meters I use. In the scheme of things with home produced
EIS what's a ppm or three anyway?
N.
From:
I was reading that some people were considering uS as ppm for CS
Which had me think was my 15us brew a 7/8 ppm or 15. The variance is large and
given the discussions of high ppm recently it got me even more interested.
On 12 Jan 2012, at 10:12, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
meter gives rough
idea of silver content.
With my EC and TDS meters I don't see any problem with a TDS meter and doubling
the reading, or an EC meter and just reading it as it is. Much of a muchness
in the home to me.
N.
Subject: Re: CSPPM vs uS
From: asifnathe...@hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 12
meters I don't see any problem with a TDS meter and
doubling the reading, or an EC meter and just reading it as it is. Much of a
muchness in the home to me.
N.
Subject: Re: CSPPM vs uS
From: asifnathe...@hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 11:07:56 +
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
I
I think it is necessary to know the uS of the distilled water you start
with, before you can say uS can be considered the same as ppm.
But if the distilled water (tested with a Hanna PWT which I think is an
EC meter) reads, as an example, .3 uS then I consider uS and ppm the
same. The
Asif, don't waste your time with uS meters except for testing the purity of
your water, as they were only designed for that purpose, and nothing
more, they cannot in any way measure ionic content of silver sol or be used
to infer any value for ppm of silver ions in a sol through extrapolation
by
I think you mean don't bother with a PWT meter.
Dan
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:40 PM, D Glover mothman...@gmail.com wrote:
Asif, don't waste your time with uS meters except for testing the purity of
your water, as they were only designed for that purpose, and nothing
more, they cannot in any
the PPM and not giving
much info about the water purity. They're the equivalent of litmus paper.
Trem
- Original Message -
From: D Glover
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: CSPPM vs uS
Asif, don't waste your time with uS
It doesn't really matter sunny, they will all work. If you have something
badly wrong the higher ppm might work better, but this is not an absolute. You
wouldn't want it higher than 30ppm except for short term use maybe. It doesn't
seem to be something that is absolutely controllable either.
ppm simply means parts per million. For silver that would be in
milligrams of silver per liter of water. For ingesting I would use 5-10
and for topical I would go for 15.
Marshall
Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote:
Well, it wasn't the last...
Please can someone explain all the complexities
for a simpler life
Tune in and friend us on Facebook - Pierre Soleil return to earth
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 2:21:26 PM
Subject: Re: CSppm
It doesn't really matter sunny, they will all work
Is the silvonic electric or battery operated? Would you send a link on this
please?
- Original Message -
From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: CSppm
Thanks Dee, I am sitting here with the generator
, January 22, 2010 5:48:17 PM
Subject: Re: CSppm
Is the silvonic electric or battery operated? Would you send a link on this
please?
- Original Message -
From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: CSppm
Thanks Dee, I
Kathy Tankersley wrote:
I'm now getting an understand of CS, but still have some questions
that I hope somone can answer.
1. My friend is taking and her family are taking CS 400 PPM ( on
the bottle ) Accoring to the directions she cuts the dose down to 1/4
tsp instead of 1 tsp.
If it is
400ppm is far too high. It shouldn't be any more than 30ppm - although most of
us use 10ppm. dee
On 15 Jan 2010, at 21:42, Kathy Tankersley wrote:
I'm now getting an understand of CS, but still have some questions that I
hope somone can answer.
1. My friend is taking and her family
Like with homeopathy, less is more.
Besides, there are no worries about turning blue... and if you plan on
taking it for a longer period of time, then less is definitely more over
that time.
Aldi
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:49 AM, john freese jrf...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hello
If weaker CS is
John,
It isn't the ppm that is so important (although 5 - 10ppm has shown to be
ideal in most cases), it is particle size. The smaller the better... and the
stronger the solution.
Bob
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From: john freese
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent:
to
stimulate everything into working was the addition of DMSO. It was the
worst flu I have ever experienced, was sick two months. I think you are
right about using a higher PPM.
Dianne
From: bbane...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPPM
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:39
was the
addition of DMSO. It was the worst flu I have ever experienced,
was sick two months. I think you are right about using a higher PPM.
Dianne
From: mailto:bbane...@earthlink.netbbane...@earthlink.net
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPPM
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009
To:
silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPPM Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:39:03
-0700
Dianne, 10ppm should do the trick but I wouldn't rely on silver
only. Silver will inactivate any virus or bug, but it has to come into
contact with the particle for it to work. I'd take other things
which dictates whether or not you will even * catch* any diseases at all!
Dee
---Original Message---
From: Annie
Date: 05/02/09 11:29:34
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPPM and what else eases the flu
Ahhh, OK.. that makes sense now. I can live with that. I'll have to find
We don't know if the swine flu is that kind of flu or not. I would
guess the way to tell is whether the remedy helps or hurts, the final
answer. The other way is to keep tabs online with the buzz/news and see
what the docs say.
Kathryn
On May 2, 2009, at 5:29 AM, Annie wrote:
Ahhh, OK..
which dictates whether or not you will even *
catch* any diseases at all! Dee
---Original Message---
From: Annie
Date: 05/02/09 11:29:34
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPPM and what else eases the flu
Ahhh, OK.. that makes sense now. I can live with that. I'll have to
find
Ok, but the last thing I said about the immune system is still valid. Maybe
the 'flu virus you had had more than one cell in which case the CS wouldn't
help. Dee
---Original Message---
From: Clayton Family
Date: 05/02/09 14:17:51
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPPM and what
was the addition of DMSO. It was the
worst flu I have ever experienced, was sick two months. I think you are
right about using a higher PPM.
Dianne
From: bbane...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPPM
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:39:03 -0700
Dianne,
10ppm should do
. It was the worst flu I have ever experienced,
was sick two months. I think you are right about using a higher PPM.
Dianne
From: mailto:bbane...@earthlink.netbbane...@earthlink.net
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPPM
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:39:03 -0700
Dianne
That *is* interesting Lois. Dee
---Original Message---
From: zzekel...@aol.com
Date: 04/29/09 20:43:15
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPPM and what else eases the flu
I Thought this was pretty interesting..My son just told me about it this
morning. There are products
Subject: Re: CSPPM and what else eases the flu
I Thought this was pretty interesting..My son just told me about it this
morning. There are products called Thieves--In the far past in France during
the Black Plague There were 4 thieves that covered their bodies with
cloves, rosemary other
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Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: CSPPM and what else eases the flu
I bought a bottle of Thieves last year from the same companty and I have used
it during the flu and it has not seemed to do much, I am sorry to report.
Paula
- Original Message
the other -don't know why it didn't work. Sorry
Kathy
- Original Message -
From: juga...@aol.com
To: vano...@mrtc.com
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: CSPPM and what else eases the flu
Kathy,
I can't get your link
I think at least 10ppm or higher. Dee
---Original Message---
From: Dianne France
Date: 28/04/2009 23:23:27
To: silver-list
Subject: CSPPM
If we have this swine flu go pandemic what strength of silver should we be
using to combat the virus? I had the flu over the winter and was using
I Thought this was pretty interesting..My son just told me about it this
morning. There are products called Thieves--In the far past in France
during the Black Plague There were 4 thieves that covered their bodies
with cloves, rosemary other aromaties and robbed the plague victims. When
Dianne,
10ppm should do the trick but I wouldn't rely on silver only. Silver
will inactivate any virus or bug, but it has to come into contact with the
particle for it to work. I'd take other things along with the silver...
allicin is a wonderful anti-viral as is MMS.
Bob
. It was the worst flu I have
ever experienced, was sick two months. I think you are right about using a
higher PPM.
Dianne
From: bbane...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPPM
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:39:03 -0700
Dianne,
10ppm should do the trick but I wouldn't
silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 5:44:34 PM
Subject: RE: CSPPM
Bob
I did MMS ever four hours (6 drops) for several days along with the 5ppms of
silver, same dose times. The only thing it did was make me very miserable
making quick trips to the bathroom. The thing that seemed
Subject: Re: CSPPM
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:39:03 -0700
Dianne,
10ppm should do the trick but I wouldn't rely on silver only.
Silver will inactivate any virus or bug, but it has to come into
contact with the particle for it to work. I'd take other things along
with the silver... allicin
taste in the CS which may be interpreted as bitter.
Dan
-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 5:33 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPpm question
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1] *Ramp up to current* take longer in larger volumes of water...more water
to bring to the level of conductivity that pulls the electrical current.
2] The better the water is, the longer it takes...exponential runaway
curve that gets leveled out by current control, starting out fairly flat in
- Original Message -
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: CSPpm question
Morning List,
Odes' severely snipped quote:
[PS Meters are a pretty bad way to gauge PPMbut it's the best bad way
Yes, the smaller amount of water will take much less time to get to the
same ppm. I assume you are starting out fresh, so it takes less time to
get to the point where the machine puts out a constant amount of silver
into the water. Or maybe the water was more conductive that you
thought to
You make and sell the c/s gel??
How much is it, and what size??
Freight?
Mary
-- Original message from Sandee George oha...@juno.com:
--
Thanks for this one Wayne - so true, I have been making and selling my
gel internationally for about seven years now - it is all
He has taken what has been discussed here for years, and applied for a
patent. No way it could ever stand up in court, nothing new, everything
he has in it was common public knowledge. Plus the method of making it
is almost identical to the patent I filed for in 1999, which was thrown
out as
Thanks for this one Wayne - so true, I have been making and selling my
gel internationally for about seven years now - it is all bunkum !
Everyone of the so called patented
gels I have seen and tried out of interest - do not come up to my formula
- and therein lies the truth. The reality
That is the process I was using from 1999 through about 2005. Applied
for a patent on it, but was denied as not being anything over the
present art.
Marshall
Clayton Family wrote:
I'm not an expert on this sort of thing, but I can see it is a high
voltage electrolysis machine with stirring.
Smaller particles affect viruses better than larger ones. Lower ppm EIS
tends to have smaller particles. Higher ppm EIS can have a little
hydrogen peroxide added to it to make the particles smaller, and thus be
even more effective.
Marshall
Sharlene Miyamura wrote:
Wayne:
I agree totally
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPPM question
This is the ready-made CS that I buy through a mlm company with
the exclusive rights to the 14 ppm, 18 ppm and silver gel through this
company that owns the patent. The patent holders also sell the 10 ppm
They probably do not look at previous submissions when there are legal fees
to be harvested. Faith G.
- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: CSPPM question
He has taken what
.
- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: CSPPM question
He has taken what has been discussed here for years, and applied for a
patent. No way it could ever stand up in court, nothing new, everything
he has
, January 29, 2008 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: CSPPM question
He has taken what has been discussed here for years, and applied for a
patent. No way it could ever stand up in court, nothing new, everything
he has in it was common public knowledge. Plus the method of making it
is
almost identical
I was thinking you had talked about making a colloidal suspension with
HV. This sounded like what you had described previously. Does this
really make a colloid, as opposed to an 80/20 ionic solution? I was
just wondering, maybe somebody sent some in to the lab for analysis.
On another
I don't know about that, but I do know that I made and used about 5 PPM
for the first year or so that I used cs, and it worked great. I
believe it is not the actual ppm, but the amount of silver total- so if
it is 5ppm, you just use more of it, more often. Perhaps the product
is different?
This is the product's patent.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=7,135,195.PN.OS=PN/7,135,195RS=PN/7,135,195
I hope someone can scan it and tell me if it is different from EIS.
On Jan 28, 2008 7:26 AM, Clayton
I'm not an expert on this sort of thing, but I can see it is a high
voltage electrolysis machine with stirring. It claims to make a mostly
colloidal suspension, with little ions. I am not familiar with high
voltage machines. But EIS = electrically isolated silver (but it
really refers to
This is the ready-made CS that I buy through a mlm company with the
exclusive rights to the 14 ppm, 18 ppm and silver gel through this company
that owns the patent. The patent holders also sell the 10 ppm on the
general market but I was told that the 10 ppm would be better for viruses
and not to
Wayne:
I agree totally with what you're saying, I don't give a hoot about the
patent anyway. My main reason for writing was if anyone had heard about the
low level of ppm affecting the virus more effectively than the bacteria, but
I guess not. I thought by sending the patent someone could look
Greetings Wayne,
The equation would logically appear to be the most accurate way to determine
PPM, but since we are not calculating thrust, escape velocity and such, and
since I do hold down a full-time job, the PPM meter gives a fairly good idea
of the quality of the CS mixture.
Because I do
Wait till the conductivity [uS] stops dropping then use uS as if it were
PPM. [12- 24 hours...a couple or 3 days, whatever]
Trem says uS times 1.2 but doesn't point out when to take the measurement.
ode
At 08:20 AM 5/1/2006 -0500, you wrote:
I want to determine the concentraion of my EIS.
Hi JAG,
There is no real relationshiop between uS/cm and PPM.
The uS/cm will change with time. Check it as made, and again 24 hours later.
The last reading MAY be within (higher) 10 to 15% of PPM.
You need to standardize everything. But most importantly measure the initial
Come to think of it, you are right. 1,000,000 divided by zero (no water)
would be undefined One drop of water in a glass would allow a valid
calculation with a high ppm. The bigger the chunk of silver the higher the
ppm. Of course that wouldn't be a colloidal suspension, but it would be ppm
CSPPM From: Jay Ice
Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 09:50:52
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59550.html
How much water makes 1 part per million?
Ice
Jay, it looks like you are trying to get an idea of what 1 part per
million means. It is a very small amount.
For example, it is
Terry Chamberlin wrote:
It would have twice as many particles, so it should
be twice as effective.
20 ppm doesn't automatically mean twice as many
particles (as 10 ppm), only twice as much silver. You
could have one pebble of silver at the bottom of the
container and still have 20 ppm.
First, the obvious: you certainly meant barely distinguishable, or
almost indistinguishable.
That is a minor point. The major point for most of us on this list is
your observation that both ionic products and particulate products have
nearly identical effects. This would seem to be
But in that particular photo [ionpud1.jpg], there IS no tan color to that 'particle stream' anywhere.
The color is an artifact of the yellowish lighting while taking the photo.
The color 'reproduction' is not accurate.
[But may be similar to colors that you see in 'your' setup.]
There is no
Info wrote:
Mike Monett wrote:
According to Ivan Anderson, Mesosilver is made of oxides. This makes
sense, since your tan color is similar to diluted silver hydroxide.
Elemental silver is gray or black in solution. You can prove this by
adding pickling salt to 36uS cs to
I think the debate is good. For instance I am going to check if EDTA will
cause silver chloride in solution to be chelated. I would never have thought
of this without the debate. I think it is very important if we can figure
out how all this works (since we are far past the point of knowing that
in...@www.silver-colloids.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: CSppm meters
M. G. Devour wrote :
... I'm afraid that we'll be forced to leave this debate pretty soon...
I could not agree more.
I felt compelled to respond because the Quinto test results
CSppm meters
From: Info
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:26:28
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m78940.html
Mike Monett wrote:
According to Ivan Anderson, Mesosilver is made of oxides. This
makes sense, since your tan color is similar to diluted silver
hydroxide.
Elemental
At 08:24 AM 3/26/2005 -0800, you wrote:
My question is: Do these ppm meters measure both
colloidal (particulate) and also ionic silver content?
## Particles don't add to conductivity. All meters use conductivity.
I had a sample of some silver tested once by Bob
Berger, who reported 12.3 ppm. I
http://www.silverpuppy.com/resource/ionpud1.jpg
There is no tan color in that photo that's not an artifact of the lighting
adding a golden hue to everything.
I think I made note of that somewhere in there.
The particle cloud is pure white in real life.
Ode
Since you state the particle size
Re: CSppm meters
From: Ode Coyote
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 07:05:34
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m78972.html
http://www.silverpuppy.com/resource/ionpud1.jpg
There is no tan color in that photo that's not an artifact of the
lighting adding a golden hue to everything.
I
Re: CSppm meters
From: Ode Coyote
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 07:05:34
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m78972.html
http://www.silverpuppy.com/resource/ionpud1.jpg
There is no tan color in that photo that's not an artifact of the
lighting adding a golden hue to everything.
I
CSppm meters
From: Terry Chamberlin
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:28:00
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m78919.html
My question is: Do these ppm meters measure both colloidal
(particulate) and also ionic silver content?
I had a sample of some silver tested once by Bob
Frank writes:
ASAP 22 is far superior at killing pathogens compared to Sovereign
Silver 10 ppm because is has more than twice the silver concentration.
The test clearly indicates that the ASAP 22 produced virtually the same
results as Mesosilver. Yet Quinto would have us believe from his tests
Terry Chamberlin wrote:
Subject: CSppm meters
My question is: Do these ppm meters measure both
colloidal (particulate) and also ionic silver content?
PPM meters don't measure silver at all, they measure electrical
conductivity.
Conductivity can be used to approximate the ionic content
Mike Monett wrote:
The particulate content is of no interest. The oxides are inert and
have no biological activity. You can see this in Steve Quinto's
report on Mesosilver:
There are no oxides in Mesosilver, only silver nanoparticles.
Steve Quinto's studies are as bogus as his use
Re: CSppm meters
From: Info
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:29:25
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m78932.html
Mike Monett wrote:
The particulate content is of no interest. The oxides are inert
and have no biological activity. You can see this in Steve
Quinto's report
M. G. Devour wrote :
... I'm afraid that we'll be forced to leave this debate pretty
soon...
I could not agree more.
Thought you might feel that way! grin
My claim is that the EMSL challenge tests are done by one of top labs in
the US and clearly show that a representative ionic silver
CSppm meters
From: Info
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:26:28
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m78940.html
When the water is evaporated from Mesosilver what remains is a
thin film of metallic silver, not silver oxide. This rather easy
experiment requires only that one be able to
M. G. Devour wrote :
... I'm afraid that we'll be forced to leave this debate pretty soon...
I could not agree more.
I felt compelled to respond because the Quinto test results are being
presented as fact.
My claim is that the EMSL challenge tests are done by one of top labs in the
US
I left the batch of snowflake CS on the self for several months.
It turned slight yellow, very heavy TE, little black balls of oxides on the
bottom and no more snowflakes...still 13 uS on the PWT.
Ode
At 06:37 PM 4/14/2004 -0700, you wrote:
Ode writes,
In my experience, H2O2 should not
At 06:37 PM 4/14/2004 -0700, JJ wrote:
I did go ahead and make a normal batch and added 20 ml H2O2 during the
32 hour brewing process.
Jimmy Joe
What was the size of the batch?
stuff
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