Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2009-10-11 Thread sol
Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Pat, Believe that lie and they'll tell you another one. Polio was on the decline before they started sticking people with the needles. Actually there was a spike in polio cases caused by the vaccines. Plus using the wrong methods of making at least one early vaccine

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-19 Thread Ode Coyote
Yeah, really 'cool'... Ode, you just lost any shred of credibility you may have had... And you, Simon, are incredible. Must be horribly stressful to be so angry all the time...and not even a teenager. Very glad not to be there. ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-19 Thread Ode Coyote
A lot of good bills get vetoed because they hang crap all over them. So, exactly what all was in that bill, other than no longer using mercury in new vaccines? Can't take it out of the old ones, you know, and can't toss those until new stocks are built up...or, if something happens, there

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-19 Thread Ode Coyote
At 01:21 PM 10/17/2007 -0400, you wrote: Ode Coyote wrote: It is interesting that the USA Polio epidemic started around the same time as the Spanish Flu epidemic and problematic vaccine...but...causation doesn't exactly add up linking Spanish Flu vaccines to Polio. Smallpox vaccines to

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-19 Thread Simon Jester
On 10/18/2007, John Plumridge (bollyb...@yahoo.co.uk) wrote: To be fair, SImon is not knocking, or discussing CS knowledge, but it's uptake by the pharmacology industry and students. SO in that way, he is not knocking Ode's credibility on that. Perhaps he is challenging, and incensed, with

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-19 Thread John Plumridge
Hi Ode, breifly, about microsocpes, we can only get incomplete knowledge, and all of it unnecessary to know how to live healthily or to find suitable healing conditions. SUch knowledge only blunts our senses, and because of that our immune system, which needs our full senses to work

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-19 Thread Ode Coyote
Ok - but you said the FLU earlier... lets stop changing gears from 1st to 50th, and stay on point. ## If it's not live threatening the whole point is a moot one, flu or anything else. There will be no quarantine to defy. But even if not, passing even a mild cold around is still

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-19 Thread Ode Coyote
I suppose you think you have a right to drive drunk too, ey? An argument can be made that under the common law, if there is no ACTUAL damaged party, there is no crime. ## The issue is potential of harm However, people do have a LIMITED right to protect themselves by enacting laws

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-19 Thread Simon Jester
On 10/19/2007, Ode Coyote (odecoy...@alltel.net) wrote: Must be horribly stressful to be so angry all the time...and not even a teenager. The anger only lasts as long as it takes to type up the reply - which is only a few seconds - and it isn't really anger, more like extreme irritation...

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-19 Thread Simon Jester
Ode Coyote, on 10/19/2007 5:56 AM, said the following: Actually president shrub, just vetoed a bill that would have removed mercury from vaccines, What a guy. A lot of good bills get vetoed because they hang crap all over them. I agree... thats why I advocate a Constitutional Amendment to

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-19 Thread Simon Jester
On 10/19/2007, Ode Coyote (odecoy...@alltel.net) wrote: If it's not live threatening the whole point is a moot one, flu or anything else. There will be no quarantine to defy. Then why did you say earlier that there SHOULD be? But even if not, passing even a mild cold around is still

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-19 Thread John Plumridge
--On 18 October 2007 08:30:49 -0400 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: At 05:24 PM 10/16/2007 +0100, you wrote: --On 16 October 2007 09:15:16 -0400 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: That depends on the flu strain. The H5N1bird flu, so far, has a 60% survival rate...IF... you

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-19 Thread Simon Jester
An argument can be made that under the common law, if there is no ACTUAL damaged party, there is no crime. The issue is potential of harm I know - hence my comments below... And again - if you and yours are vaccinated, WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF? If everyone were vaccinated, your wanderings

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-19 Thread Carol Ann
This is if anything, this is an interesting read http://www.amazon.com/Great-Influenza-Deadliest-Plague-History/dp/0670894737 When these types of epidemics come along they are not unlike a great tsunami or major hurricane sans mother nature. They are sudden and often without warning.

RE: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-19 Thread Dan Nave
that the way things actually are in practice. Dan -Original Message- From: Simon Jester [mailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 4:38 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal

RE: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-19 Thread Dan Nave
If the terrain is everything, and the microbe is nothing, why are you on a Colloidal Silver List? Dan -Original Message- From: Simon Jester [mailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines

RE: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-19 Thread Dan Nave
No, I am facing reality as it is, not how I wish it to be. Instead of blowing off what I wrote, you should think about it... Dan -Original Message- From: Simon Jester [mailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 1:38 PM To: Dan Nave Subject: Re: CSRe: Forced flu

RE: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-19 Thread John Plumridge
Wound care...barrier function, hygiene. --On 19 October 2007 15:35:56 -0500 Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com wrote: If the terrain is everything, and the microbe is nothing, why are you on a Colloidal Silver List? JOhn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-19 Thread Simon Jester
send this to the list? Please respect Mike's wishes. If you want to continue it off-list - please don't bother, there's no point... -Original Message- From: Simon Jester [mailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 1:38 PM To: Dan Nave Subject: Re: CSRe: Forced flu

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-18 Thread Ode Coyote
As in In addition to: Ya, Never have enough ways to go to avoid the ole briar patch. There is never just one path. MMS [and CS] is most likely MUCH better than Tamiflu which is all they have right now and they are well aware of it's limitations...and what can be said publicly and still be

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-18 Thread Ode Coyote
At 04:55 PM 10/16/2007 +0100, you wrote: --On 16 October 2007 07:38:00 -0400 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Silver IS being rediscovered in more effective forms as nano-technology and ion exchange technology are better understood though progression of discovery. You haven't

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-18 Thread Ode Coyote
At 05:24 PM 10/16/2007 +0100, you wrote: --On 16 October 2007 09:15:16 -0400 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: That depends on the flu strain. The H5N1bird flu, so far, has a 60% survival rate...IF... you have access to a ventilator to keep you breathing. That's the human

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-18 Thread Ode Coyote
The H5N1 kills those with healthy immune systems and spares those with weak ones. It's the immune system that causes death, not the virus. It's not the normal flu. ode At 01:19 PM 10/16/2007 -0400, you wrote: Hey, flus do kill. Only those with a sufficiently weakened immunse system.

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-18 Thread T. J. Garland
ODE, who do you think puts the info on Wikipedia? More MSM bullshit. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines? Regardless of unproven bullshit, Does any

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-18 Thread Marshall Dudley
Simon Jester wrote: Just like a drug test, which is an absolute invasion of privacy, your employer can probably require that you do this if you are going to work there. Your employer can basically fire you for anything except those things that are specifically prohibited such as certain kinds

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-18 Thread Clayton Family
This is what I mean when I say that we don't know all the laws that govern this world. Just because something does not fit the model, means maybe the model is not good enough, so go back and look at that. If it is good enough for the use it is intended for, then ok, the model can be used, but

CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-18 Thread Simon Jester
A private, non-corporate 'employer' is free to do whatever he/she wants - hire and fire anyone they want, anytime they want, for any reason they want. Problem is, truly private 'employers' are rae these days. Actually that is not true. Any employer, corporate or not, firing, or even

CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-18 Thread Simon Jester
On 10/18/2007, Ode Coyote (odecoy...@alltel.net) wrote: The H5N1 kills those with healthy immune systems and spares those with weak ones. It's the immune system that causes death, not the virus. It's not the normal flu. Interesting - and we have some of your 'friends' (figuratively speaking)

CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-18 Thread Simon Jester
On 10/18/2007, Ode Coyote (odecoy...@alltel.net) wrote: I know a few PHDs that have private lives that would just blow you awaysome alien contactees working for the UN and , alt practitioners at home, toe the line scientists at work. Preachers who have very different experiences guiding

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-18 Thread Kurt Milkowski
: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines? Regardless of unproven bullshit, Does any transport person have the right to be a disease carrier? You are saying that the smallpox vaccine hasn't eliminated smallpox? ..That cowpox antibodies don't immunize from smallpox? Which vaccines work and which don't

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-18 Thread John Plumridge
To be fair, SImon is not knocking, or discussing CS knowledge, but it's uptake by the pharmacology industry and students. SO in that way, he is not knocking Ode's credibility on that. Perhaps he is challenging, and incensed, with the dismissive attitude to wards those who do not accept that

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-18 Thread John Plumridge
Sounds like placebo working in the other half. --On 17 October 2007 02:54:40 -0700 Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: FLU SHOTS: THEY DON'T PROTECT THE ELDERLY, NEW DATA REVEALS Flu shots for the elderly are far less effective than doctors like to tell us. In fact, they are incapable

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-18 Thread John Plumridge
--On 17 October 2007 19:26:00 -0400 Mark Siepak bro...@gtcinternet.com wrote: the first known outbreak not occurring until mass smallpox vaccination 100 years ago Ever thought that the people getting polio in that outbreak might have, in pre-vaccination times, die from smallpox before

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-17 Thread Carol Ann
FLU SHOTS: THEY DON'T PROTECT THE ELDERLY, NEW DATA REVEALS Flu shots for the elderly are far less effective than doctors like to tell us. In fact, they are incapable of preventing up to half of all deaths from influenza and pneumonia in the elderly, new data suggests. Despite

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-17 Thread Ode Coyote
Damn Simon! That's good for a belly laugh. Talk about fear! Do you foam at the mouth all the time? Recurrence and epidemic timelines: The first recorded smallpox epidemic was in 1350 BC during the Egyptian-Hittite war. 1518-1520 Aztec Empire (Mexico) Smallpox 1527-1530 Inca Empire (Peru)

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-17 Thread mborgert
My mom had the flu shot she was very healthy but the shot started the congestive heart failure episodes within 2 days. One er doc said to never let the elderly have a flu shot. My brother was in charge of her health as he lived 1 hr closer to her than myself, the docs gave her all of these meds

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-17 Thread Carol Ann
Usually, the majority of elderly are already in a state of compromised immune systems. There are so many more gentler remedies for the elderly to regulate the heart. Unfortunately, docs do and recommend what they know bestwhich is certainly not always what is best. Take care of momma by

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-17 Thread Ode Coyote
At 08:39 AM 10/16/2007 -0400, you wrote: Well, believe this: If you have the flu, you have no right to go out in public, much less transport people around. Doing so is irresponsible, if not illegal. So you are looking forward to the day when the medical industry has the power to jail - and

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-17 Thread Ode Coyote
At 08:30 AM 10/16/2007 -0400, you wrote: BUT it sure doesn't give whoever is producing these vaccines the right to put mercury and/or anyother extremely harmful additive to these vaccines that are causing havoc in the unsuspecticing, trusting publics, bodies.debbie No disagreement

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-17 Thread faith gagne
Great post Ode. Faith - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 9:14 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines? Damn Simon! That's good for a belly laugh. Talk about fear! Do you foam at the mouth

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-17 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ode Coyote wrote: It is interesting that the USA Polio epidemic started around the same time as the Spanish Flu epidemic and problematic vaccine...but...causation doesn't exactly add up linking Spanish Flu vaccines to Polio. Smallpox vaccines to Polio? Vaguely PossibleThat would be

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-17 Thread Tony Moody
On 16 Oct 2007 at 13:30, Tad Winiecki wrote about : Subject : Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines? I've been using some toothpaste called SilvaFresh by TriMedica. It's homeopathic silver x4 along with 8 other homeopathic substances, in a base of aloe vera distillate, but does have Glycerin, has

CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-17 Thread Simon Jester
Ok, I was just about ready to send a whopping big apology to Ode via the list for attributing motivations and intentions that were undeserved - until I cam across this post. This is the one that set me off into a 'rabid' (as someone described it) retaliatory tirade. The harshness was

CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-17 Thread Simon Jester
So you are looking forward to the day when the medical industry has the power to jail - and even kill - people who you believe has some nysterious germ inside their body that you believe threatens your health somehow. What in Hell gave you that idea? Your words above, maybe? You have no

CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-17 Thread Simon Jester
Just like a drug test, which is an absolute invasion of privacy, your employer can probably require that you do this if you are going to work there. Your employer can basically fire you for anything except those things that are specifically prohibited such as certain kinds of discrimination.

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-17 Thread Mark Siepak
the first known outbreak not occurring until mass smallpox vaccination 100 years ago Ever thought that the people getting polio in that outbreak might have, in pre-vaccination times, die from smallpox before they had a chance to develop polio? Sort of like cancer is so prevalent now. Now that

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-17 Thread Tad Winiecki
I'm not very knowledgeable about homeopathics so I don't know how homeopathic silver would differ from EIS Silver. Maybe someone else knows Nancy On Oct 17, 2007, at 12:19 PM, Tony Moody wrote: Hi Nancy and anyone else, Does homeopathic silver destroy the good that CS or EIS does?

CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-17 Thread Simon Jester
Great post Ode. Amazing... He cites a bunch of propaganda from the CDC, and you think it was a great post? I guess you're just too easily wowed by his talented-but-twisty tongue... I'll say it again... Pasteur was a fraud... The microbe is nothing... The terrain is everything... You

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread William Missett
maxi-dosed with 90ppm Microdyn for days, and killed it in a week. A very miserable week. Flus do kill. - Original Message - From: John Plumridge bollyb...@yahoo.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 1:51 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines? But, Ode

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Ode Coyote
Silver IS being rediscovered in more effective forms as nano-technology and ion exchange technology are better understood though progression of discovery. You haven't noticed how many products it's being used in lately? The list is a long one. Even the Pharm is catching on. As of around 5

CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Simon Jester
The incidences of autism is linked to ***mercury*** IN vaccines, not any vaccine. Make the distinction and the statement may have a chance of believability. While I agree that autism is most likely caused by the mercury contamination in vaccines, as opposed to the vaccine itself, there is

CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Simon Jester
BUT it sure doesn't give whoever is producing these vaccines the right to put mercury and/or anyother extremely harmful additive to these vaccines that are causing havoc in the unsuspecticing, trusting publics, bodies.debbie No disagreement there...and they have stopped doing that now

CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Simon Jester
Well, believe this: If you have the flu, you have no right to go out in public, much less transport people around. Doing so is irresponsible, if not illegal. So you are looking forward to the day when the medical industry has the power to jail - and even kill - people who you believe has

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Ode Coyote
That depends on the flu strain. The H5N1bird flu, so far, has a 60% survival rate...IF... you have access to a ventilator to keep you breathing. That's about a 90% mortality rate without one and most well equipped hospitals only have a dozen or so. It's not that flu that kills you, it's a

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Ode Coyote
On all flu strains? Never. Ode At 02:39 PM 10/15/2007 -0700, you wrote: When did they make a flu shot that works? Kurt -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.12/1072 - Release Date: 10/15/2007 5:55 PM

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread bbanever
Ya, I even found some toothpaste being sold with silver in it! Bob - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:38 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines? Silver IS being rediscovered in more effective

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread bbanever
-chi.com/mms.htm - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:15 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines? That depends on the flu strain. The H5N1bird flu, so far, has a 60% survival rate...IF... you have

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread John Plumridge
--On 16 October 2007 07:38:00 -0400 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Silver IS being rediscovered in more effective forms as nano-technology and ion exchange technology are better understood though progression of discovery. You haven't noticed how many products it's being used in

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread John Plumridge
--On 16 October 2007 09:15:16 -0400 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: That depends on the flu strain. The H5N1bird flu, so far, has a 60% survival rate...IF... you have access to a ventilator to keep you breathing. That's the human engineered variety. That's about a 90%

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
bbanever wrote: Ya, I even found some toothpaste being sold with silver in it! Bob Where? What is the name of it? Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your

CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Simon Jester
Hey, flus do kill. Only those with a sufficiently weakened immunse system. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Clayton Family
well, someone mentioned before that the flu vac is a gamble in any case. The CDC goes to the East and tries to hedge bets on which new flu will make it's way here next, and then make up vacs for that virus. The last time I heard, there were several strains in the one vac, so they were betting

CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Simon Jester
Silver IS being rediscovered in more effective forms as nano-technology and ion exchange technology are better understood though progression of discovery. You haven't noticed how many products it's being used in lately? The list is a long one. Even the Pharm is catching on. Sp, we should

CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Simon Jester
In the case of life threatening pandemic, it will be illegal and you could rightfully get yourself shot if you leave home. Yep - definitely self-defense. Sorry - this comment makes no sense in context - I neglected to excise it after excising something else that would have made it make

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Tad Winiecki
I've been using some toothpaste called SilvaFresh by TriMedica. It's homeopathic silver x4 along with 8 other homeopathic substances, in a base of aloe vera distillate, but does have Glycerin, has Xylitol. I get it from Azure Standard co-op. Nancy On Oct 16, 2007, at 10:05 AM, Marshall

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Kurt Milkowski
You'd be surprised at how 'cool' some of these guys are, just under the lab coats, nearly incomprehensible back deck barbecue party conversations and triple PHD exteriors No hookers to go along with the barbeques? It would help ease thier minds as they develope new ways to kill

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Kurt Milkowski
And the purpose of the vaccines and the chemtrails is to do just that, weaken your immune system. When you look at why the fictional bird flue, the reason it doesn't kill humans yet is because of our body temparature. The virus when inhaled by humans dies right away because the temparature in

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Kurt Milkowski
Actually president shrub, just vetoed a bill that would have removed mercury from vaccines, What a guy. Kurt Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: BUT it sure doesn't give whoever is producing these vaccines the right to put mercury and/or anyother extremely harmful additive

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Richard
Simon , why are you attacking Ode´s credibility and attempting to be clever? Ode knows a lot more about CS than you, he certainly writes a lot better than you and his Silver puppy generators are the best on the market . Are you really a simple minded peasant or is that just a giant chip

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread bbanever
Tad, Yep, that's the same brand of toothpaste I found at a local health food store. - Original Message - From: Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines? I've been using some

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-15 Thread Ode Coyote
At 09:36 AM 10/12/2007 -0700, you wrote: Believe that crap they will tell you more. Take a look,a good look at what vaccines are all about. Vaccines have never eliminated anything from anyone. Woder why the Amish have never ever had an autistic child? Because they don't vaccinate. ## The

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-15 Thread Ode Coyote
I can go look at the slides and research, blow by blow this does that with piles of repeatable evidence. You have to rely on an unfounded opinion being promoted by notoriously ignorant anti-believers who *don't* used their heads as a methodology. Anything that's opposite from a carefully

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-15 Thread Ode Coyote
At 10:16 PM 10/12/2007 -0400, you wrote: Gee, Simon. Sounds like you might need a rabies shot... Yeah, I know - I don't tolerate ignorance with respect to such dangerous things very well. ## Yea, just the even more dangerous things without employing distinctions. ode -- The Silver

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-15 Thread Ode Coyote
At 08:12 PM 10/12/2007 -0700, you wrote: I see your point Ode..BUT it sure doesn't give whoever is producing these vaccines the right to put mercury and/or anyother extremely harmful additive to these vaccines that are causing havoc in the unsuspecticing, trusting publics, bodies.debbie

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-15 Thread Ode Coyote
On the other hand, many are battle veterans themselves. Ode At 05:33 AM 10/13/2007 -0700, you wrote: Hey Kurt ~ Just as govt representatives who sanction warsdon't send their kids off to fight in the front lines. They appeal to and rely upon the easily manipulated emotions of the

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-15 Thread John Plumridge
But, Ode, hardly anyone dies of flue. Just a few extremely vulnerable people. Maybe with their windows shut, in a ground floor bungalow with no heating. It's an advertising scare, isn't it? JOhn --On 15 October 2007 10:26:25 -0400 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: I can go look at

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-15 Thread John Plumridge
Discovery as a progression: why not a rediscovery, as in the case of silver, which was forgotten largely, since Roman and Persian times? If true, then this procession is more like a a dance troupe on their way back fro the pub doing a Micahael Jackson impersonation. JOhn --On 15 October

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-15 Thread Kurt Milkowski
When did they make a flu shot that works? Kurt Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: I can go look at the slides and research, blow by blow this does that with piles of repeatable evidence. You have to rely on an unfounded opinion being promoted by notoriously ignorant anti-believers

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-14 Thread Carol Ann
Hi John, My post may have come across as indifferent and more callus than intended. Having been to some of what are considered among the most premier health centers in the US was a real catalyst for me. If I had any semblance of being a cynic or skeptic before my personal experiences regarding

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?[Carol]

2007-10-14 Thread Kurt Milkowski
Hey Carol, Is it that obvious that I recently had a birthday? !!! Kurt Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Kurt ~ A belated birthday message. g I'd venture to say that as each new day begins and people awaken to greater awareness, that day can be equated with a new birth

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-14 Thread Tony Moody
Hepa filter, ozonate, UV, de-ozonate (if necessary) . On 14 Oct 2007 at 1:41, John Plumridge wrote about : Subject : Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines? Talking about flu vaccines, is there a vaccine for central heating with the window shut, hot shops , buses, trains and offices? JOhn --On 13

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-14 Thread John Plumridge
That's precisely how it was described when I read about the two. Thanks for fishing that out. --On 14 October 2007 01:19:19 -0400 Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 10/13/2007 silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: As regards Pasteur - he admitted on his deathbed that he was

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-13 Thread Kurt Milkowski
Hey Debbie, Tried to post a great piece yesterday but was informed it was too big. I will put up a few good links later on today. Kurt Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Kurt I would be very interested to see the info on the Amish and the ALS info and where you got it

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-13 Thread Kurt Milkowski
Hey Simon, What part do you think they aren't getting? Kurt Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: We do need a vaccine against rabies, I think. There have been a few cases of rabid wild animals coming into yards in this state (SC). You might never know if your dog had

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-13 Thread Carol Ann
I look at the vaccine programs.logically, with practicality and with no emotions...other than to say I think I understand why they exist and are sanctioned and promoted. Seeding. Fact. There is a certain amount of longevity expected from any commodity. Human beings included. All units

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-13 Thread Kurt Milkowski
Hey Carol Ann, Great piece of writing here. The only things I will disagree with is the median age extension and the good' Doctor Jarvic. The united states of amerika, currently ranks 42nd in longevity. That is not accidental it is by design. Vaccines and pharmaceuticals killed almost

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-13 Thread Carol Ann
Hi Kurt ~ Glad you caught the good doctor reference. :) It was actually tongue in cheek comment. But, the reality cannot be lost or overlooked in that generally, people see him as the premier authority and innovator. Big pharma, like the designer industry is not stupid when it comes

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-13 Thread Kurt Milkowski
Hey Carol Ann. My guess is that he knows better than to take the shit as well!!! Kurt Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Kurt ~ Glad you caught the good doctor reference. :) It was actually tongue in cheek comment. But, the reality cannot be lost or overlooked in that

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-13 Thread Carol Ann
Hey Kurt ~ Just as govt representatives who sanction warsdon't send their kids off to fight in the front lines. They appeal to and rely upon the easily manipulated emotions of the masses to do their bidding and generate profits. Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hey

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-13 Thread Kurt Milkowski
Welcome to sickworld everybody! Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Kurt ~ Just as govt representatives who sanction warsdon't send their kids off to fight in the front lines. They appeal to and rely upon the easily manipulated emotions of the masses to do their bidding and

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-13 Thread Carol Ann
Hey Kurt ~ A belated birthday message. g I'd venture to say that as each new day begins and people awaken to greater awareness, that day can be equated with a new birth day. And our world becomes less sick. Kurt Milkowski kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Welcome to sickworld everybody!

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?- live virus vacs

2007-10-13 Thread Clayton Family
This whole issue is from, as stated below, using a Live Virus for the vaccine. Live virus vaccines always have collateral casualties. The decision to use them is based on the mistaken idea that the poor will not get vaccines, and since the live vv people will shed the live disease in the days

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-13 Thread Clayton Family
Well, if you had been there while my aunt went nova about how vaccines have saved kids, you would believe it too. She had a cousin that died from lockjaw, which is unheard of now. It was a horrendous painful death for a child, and the whole family had to stand by and watch while it

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-13 Thread Clayton Family
maybe it is the let's shove this down their throats part. On Oct 13, 2007, at 5:09 AM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Simon,   What part do you think they aren't getting?   Kurt Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: We do need a vaccine against rabies, I think. There have been a few

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-13 Thread Kurt Milkowski
Whatever it takes. Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: maybe it is the let's shove this down their throats part. On Oct 13, 2007, at 5:09 AM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Simon, What part do you think they aren't getting? Kurt Simon Jester wrote: We do need a vaccine against

RE: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-13 Thread John Plumridge
[mailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 1:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines? I don't think they can force you to take a vaccine, but they can constitutionally en force a quarantine. No, they can't - but they can UNconstitutinally enforce

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-13 Thread John Plumridge
I have to agree, with you Kurt: we need to really elevate the belief in, and knowledge about our immune systems (some ground has been gained but not enough), one step higher. It is the only thing. Al else is fools' tampering, and dulling our powers and senses. A decent medical system takes

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-13 Thread John Plumridge
Well, I qustioned my brother. a medical surgeon on this case of smallpox: I simply couldn't believe that every person who may carry smallpox in expresed and unexpressed form could have beeen covered, and the germ eliminated. He admitted that the forms vary, and incubation and expression in

Re: Re[2]: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-13 Thread John Plumridge
Have to be careful in critique of autism, because it is a syndrome based on points in the psychiatric classification. It is not always the same thing, or possibly the same cause/trigger, therefore. Even in this scenario, there have been periods of over-classification, under-classification,

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-13 Thread John Plumridge
My children are 4 and 6 , have had no vaccinations whatsoever, are amongst the most healthy. Whatever that may mean to you. They may yet get struck down, I'll report back in twenty years or so. They could be disease carriers infecting everyone else, and not showing it themselves. BUt they

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