[SLUG] My new job... IA64 Linux...

2002-03-20 Thread Peter Chubb
Hi folks, As Aurema has gone over to the Evil Empire almost entirely, Lucy and I have new jobs. We're now working for the Gelato project http://www.gelato.org which is basically HP throwing money at various people in the effort to get Linux on IA-64 working at least as well as Linux

Re: [SLUG] My new job... IA64 Linux...

2002-03-20 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Peter Chubb As Aurema has gone over to the Evil Empire almost entirely, Crap! Lucy and I have new jobs. We're now working for the Gelato project http://www.gelato.org which is basically HP throwing money at various people in the effort to get Linux on IA-64 working at

Re: [SLUG] OT: reliable mail

2002-03-20 Thread David Fitch
On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 20:46, Grant Parnell wrote: If the $11 includes the bandwidth then I can't see a problem with it if it's a good reliable service. I wouldn't consider that too steep for a business. no but it's for me, and I don't have unlimited funds to spend just on internet access

Re: [SLUG] My new job... IA64 Linux...

2002-03-20 Thread Peter Chubb
Jeff == Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jeff quote who=Peter Chubb As Aurema has gone over to the Evil Empire almost entirely, Jeff Crap! No, it has! They're concentrating on Windows development, and have retrenched almost all of their Unix people. They've just kept enough to support

[SLUG] Telstra little pond cable and Linux

2002-03-20 Thread Peter Rundle
Sluggers, Just need some advice and opinions on a little job I've been offered. Office has a Telstra Big pond cable connection to a Windoze 2K box which acts as the gateway for a small network of Macs. Apparently the cable connection falls over all the time along with the Doze box, also there

Re: [SLUG] My new job... IA64 Linux...

2002-03-20 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Peter Chubb No, it has! They're concentrating on Windows development, and have retrenched almost all of their Unix people. They've just kept enough to support their existing customers. Heh, yeah, crap as in bad. I noticed that they had a whole raft of Microsoft stuff on their

Re: [SLUG] ask 2 questions

2002-03-20 Thread Peter Rundle
Henry, 1. How do I open a file with filename ***.ps.gz ? Umm is your question about the *** or the gz or the ps? If you meant that somehow you got ***'s in the file name and it's now causing you problems then use single quotes I.e $ mv '***.ps.gz' better.ps.gz If it's about the .gz then

Re: [SLUG] Telstra little pond cable and Linux

2002-03-20 Thread Stephen Robert Norris
On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 20:22, Peter Rundle wrote: Sluggers, Just need some advice and opinions on a little job I've been offered. Office has a Telstra Big pond cable connection to a Windoze 2K box which acts as the gateway for a small network of Macs. Apparently the cable connection falls

Re: [SLUG] OT: reliable mail

2002-03-20 Thread Peter Rundle
What do other people with perm connection who run their own mail server do for secondary/backup? (ie. secondary mx) My suggestion is that you *DON'T*! Why not you ask? Think about how the mail system works. Someone sends a mail to you, it goes from their desktop/mail client of choice onto

Re: [SLUG] Telstra little pond cable and Linux

2002-03-20 Thread Peter Rundle
It uses DHCP to get an IP, then some protocol for authentication. I think there's some difficulty if they use a USB ethernet card (you need to get a supported ethernet card). Hmm, ok who's they? I assume you mean the people I'm doing the job for. I get to specify the box so it will have a PCI

Re: [SLUG] Telstra little pond cable and Linux

2002-03-20 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 20:22:41 +1100 Peter Rundle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sluggers, Just need some advice and opinions on a little job I've been offered. Office has a Telstra Big pond cable connection to a Windoze 2K box which acts as the gateway for a small network of Macs. Apparently

[SLUG] lynx's homepage?

2002-03-20 Thread Bill Taylor
in the middle of debian configuration it asks for lynx's URL . does anyone know without a lot of trouble? thanks Bill -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] lynx's homepage?

2002-03-20 Thread Robert Reid
All it is asking is what do you want to be the startup page if you run lynx. Just put in whatever you want - e.g. www.google.com ? Rob Bill Taylor wrote: in the middle of debian configuration it asks for lynx's URL . does anyone know without a lot of trouble? thanks Bill -- SLUG -

Re: [SLUG] lynx's homepage?

2002-03-20 Thread Adam Hewitt
Um...thats not lynx' URL thats the URL you want to come up as 'default'...as in your ISP's web page...or whatever At 09:12 PM 20/03/2002 +1100, you wrote: in the middle of debian configuration it asks for lynx's URL . does anyone know without a lot of trouble? thanks Bill -- SLUG -

Re: [SLUG] lynx's homepage?

2002-03-20 Thread Nick Croft
It wants the site of your choice. Like http://www.google.com frinstance. N -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] lynx's homepage?

2002-03-20 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
On Wed 20 Mar, Bill Taylor bloviated thus: in the middle of debian configuration it asks for lynx's URL . does anyone know without a lot of trouble? It's after the home page that will open whenever anyone runs lynx, not the home page for the developers of the software. I suspect the

Re: [SLUG] Zsh: M-. should bring back last arg of prev cmd

2002-03-20 Thread Andre Pang
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 05:39:43PM +1100, Nick Croft wrote: I wrote too soon. Had to bindkey -m to establish a Meta key. Am I the only zsh addict round here? See http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/pearls/2002/03/msg0.html i.e.: in answer to your question ... I think not. To make

Re: [SLUG] lynx's homepage?

2002-03-20 Thread Bill Taylor
Gee, I'm glad I asked!! Lynx is some sort of browser? thanks all Bill -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Telstra little pond cable and Linux

2002-03-20 Thread Karl Bowden
I just finished setting up a BigPond connection for a small business in Sydney and found that the USB device is supported under Redhat 7.2, which you will need for the IPTables anywhy. You just have to load the driver for the usb network device (SMC something). But you do not have to use their

Re: [SLUG] ask 2 questions

2002-03-20 Thread Nick Croft
though I cant gunzip it,it maybe caused by error-downloading Are you downloading with Windows? I know NOTHING about windows, but there's a chance it's unzipping it for you, without it renaming the file. Mozilla will do that even on Linux. All the time. Netscape on MacIntosh will also do it

[SLUG] Mandrake 8.2

2002-03-20 Thread Karl Bowden
Has anybody finished downloading the 3 cd's of mandrake 8.2 yet? I am almost finished cd1 on my 56k connection (i get unlimited downloads). But if anybody else wanted to download cd2 or cd3, I would be willing to swap the cd's by post. Let me know if you are interested. Also once I have

Re: [SLUG] lynx's homepage?

2002-03-20 Thread Steve Kowalik
At 10:03 pm, Wednesday, March 20 2002, Bill Taylor mumbled: Gee, I'm glad I asked!! Lynx is some sort of browser? Right. Lynx is a *text-based* browser. -- Steve DanielS aj: for i in have will; do echo never $i; done * aj marvels at how much more

Re: [SLUG] dual IP addresses

2002-03-20 Thread getadog
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 08:52:35AM +1100, Alan Vink wrote: IP Alias has been deprecated in 2.4.x and replaced by a more powerful firewalling mechanism *Could someone shed some light on this? It sounds a bit strange to me that aliases has been replaced with a firewalling mechanism, but I

Re: [SLUG] ask 2 questions

2002-03-20 Thread getadog
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:15:57PM +0800, henry wrote: Dear List : 1. How do I open a file with filename ***.ps.gz ? gv file.ps.gz gv can open postscript and pdf files, the version on my system gunzips automatically. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List -

Re: [SLUG] OT: reliable mail

2002-03-20 Thread Scott Howard
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 08:52:25PM +1100, Peter Rundle wrote: What do other people with perm connection who run their own mail server do for secondary/backup? (ie. secondary mx) My suggestion is that you *DON'T*! Why not you ask? Think about how the mail system works. Someone sends a

Re: [SLUG] debian.potato-X

2002-03-20 Thread Bill Taylor
back to this again, sorry. I just don't know enough to figure out what it is telling me. I've just run xf86config again, everything is set much as it is for RH (and windoze) on the same box # startx /usr/bin/X11/xauth: creating new authority file /root/.Xauthority xauth: creating new

[SLUG] Encrypt whenever possible (mutt)

2002-03-20 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
I've just discovered how cool this line in my .muttrc is: send-hook [EMAIL PROTECTED]set pgp_autoencrypt That means it will encrypt all messages I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] without me having to remember to tell mutt. I'd prefer to encrypt every email I possibly can, so... Is there some

[SLUG] Maps of Sydney ...

2002-03-20 Thread Harry Ohlsen
I have an application where I need some street-level maps of Sydney (other capital cities would be nice, too; Melbourne and Brisbane, in particular) in a format that I can decipher via some code, or where there exist Linux libraries or other tools to do the decoding for me. I've already

Re: [SLUG] Maps of Sydney ...

2002-03-20 Thread Terry Collins
Harry Ohlsen wrote: I also bought a CD ROM of Geodata 2000 release 2, which has maps at a scale of 1 : 250 000 of much of Australia. Again, though, I don't know the format of the data it contains. It could be that the CDs I already have are using a standard format that's specified

Re: [SLUG] Zsh: M-. should bring back last arg of prev cmd

2002-03-20 Thread Nick Croft
On 1-2-02 * Andre Pang ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote in a messages with the * Subject: more zsh crack (or why you should use zsh) * and I quote: You're firing me up to do a zsh talk again :). If people are keen, I'll do a zsh top ten most useful features list or something. Please, Thanks. --

[SLUG] Copying with exclusions

2002-03-20 Thread Scott Ragen
Hi guys, Just have a question about copying files from one directory to another with some soft of exclusion string. What my goal is, I want to backup all data from one directory in a filesystem to another file system except ???G.DAT and ???Z.DAT (the ??? can be replaced with a * if

RE: [SLUG] Copying with exclusions

2002-03-20 Thread Scott Ragen
To answer my own question, unless someone has a better answer, I could use: # ls |grep -v ???G.DAT |grep -v ???Z.DAT |xargs cp /backup Would this be the correct way? Is it suggested that I would tar then move, is this quicker safer? Regards, Scott -Original Message- From:

Re: [SLUG] Copying with exclusions

2002-03-20 Thread Tony Green
On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 17:20, Scott Ragen wrote: Hi guys, Just have a question about copying files from one directory to another with some soft of exclusion string. What my goal is, I want to backup all data from one directory in a filesystem to another file system except ???G.DAT and

[SLUG] Creating icons in gnome - RH7.1

2002-03-20 Thread Terry Collins
Running two machines; gnome on rh7.1. On neither machine can I creat an icon that launches an application. Instead properties shows it as a desktop (i.e. right click, then select open to run). How do I get ne of those click and run icons (yes, I'm doing right click, new launcher, change url to

RE: [SLUG] Mandrake 8.2

2002-03-20 Thread Ben Donohue
Seems the whole world is downloading Mandrake 8.2 at the moment. There is a scramble to get on the mirrors, even one's with some bandwidth. I wonder why Mandrake didn't give the mirror sites 24 hours notice prior to the release so that they could be "primed" up with the distribution before

[SLUG] (no subject)

2002-03-20 Thread Ben Donohue
Hi Slugs, Is there a way to tell how hard a network card is being used in a PC. e.g stats, errors, usage, etc. I wouldn't know where to start looking so some help would be appreciated. I'm running debian. Ben -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

Re: [SLUG] (no subject)

2002-03-20 Thread Tony Green
On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 09:10, Ben Donohue wrote: Hi Slugs, Is there a way to tell how hard a network card is being used in a PC. e.g stats, errors, usage, etc. I wouldn't know where to start looking so some help would be appreciated. I'm running debian. tgreen@cavey:~$ ifconfig eth0 eth0

Re: [SLUG] Mandrake 8.2

2002-03-20 Thread Karl Bowden
PlanetMirror makes for a good fast mirror. ftp://planetmirror.com/pub/mandrake/linux/8.2/en/iso/i586/ It's based in oz too. Seems the whole world is downloading Mandrake 8.2 at the moment. There is a scramble to get on the mirrors, even one's with some bandwidth. I wonder why Mandrake didn't

RE: [SLUG] debian.potato-X

2002-03-20 Thread Hartono, Susanto
You should try running X-windows as non-root user. -Original Message- From: Bill Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 21 March 2002 12:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] debian.potato-X back to this again, sorry. I just don't know enough to figure out what

Re: [SLUG] debian.potato-X

2002-03-20 Thread Christopher Booth
Just a thought How much space is on your drive df -h if it is 100% then that is another reason it won't start up. Chris On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 09:27:19 +1100 Hartono, Susanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should try running X-windows as non-root user. -Original Message- From: Bill

Re: [SLUG] lynx's homepage?

2002-03-20 Thread Jamie Honan
in the middle of debian configuration it asks for lynx's URL . It's after the home page that will open whenever anyone runs lynx, not On the topic of lynx, strongly suggest checking out w3m. Current version displays images in your xterm, (under your say-so, of course) quite funky.

Re: [SLUG] lynx's homepage?

2002-03-20 Thread Peter Hardy
On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 10:11, Jamie Honan wrote: Pictures, frames, ssl, and text mode browsing. Does w3m do http auth? This is the one sticking point that's stopped me from replacing lynx with links on all of my machines. -- Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday a small war broke out between

Re: [SLUG] dual IP addresses

2002-03-20 Thread Mikolaj J. Habryn
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 08:52:35AM +1100, Alan Vink wrote: IP Alias has been deprecated in 2.4.x and replaced by a more powerful firewalling mechanism *Could someone shed some light on this? *Is there a better way to achieving this without aliasing? ip addr add a.b.c.d/x dev ethy *Are

Re: [SLUG] Copying with exclusions

2002-03-20 Thread Peter Rundle
Scott, Would this be the correct way? Is it suggested that I would tar then move, is this quicker safer? Say three times after me CPIO CPIO CPIO! Cpio was designed to do this stuff, for some reason it seems to be out of favour with Linux users who seem to prefer convulted scripts based on

[SLUG] Re: Maps of Sydney

2002-03-20 Thread Rebecca Richards
Terry Collins wrote: Unfortunately the AusLig CD's are in a proprietary format developed by an Oz company. Both names escape me at the moment. I'm assuming you're talking about the Auslig Raster 250K maps. They're in a proprietary format (ECW), but the company that created the ECW standard

[SLUG] Re: dual IP addresses

2002-03-20 Thread Angus Lees
At Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:52:35 +1100, Alan Vink wrote: Setting up IP Aliasing on A Linux Machine Mini-HOWTO http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/IP-Alias/ IP Alias has been deprecated in 2.4.x and replaced by a more powerful firewalling mechanism with iproute there is no need for interface

RE: [SLUG] Re: Maps of Sydney

2002-03-20 Thread Kennedy, Adam
Can I add just as a warning, don't use their maps for anything remotely commercial unless you pay them, and even if it's free, be very carefull. Map companies are very sensitive about their data, it's their main asset, and they spend millions aquiring the data. They often have fake streets and

[SLUG] Re: Making Debian easier??

2002-03-20 Thread Angus Lees
At Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:27:54 +1100, Richard Hayes wrote: As a Debian dummy who is trying to change from Red Hat to Debian but is failling ;) I read about the Storm Administration System which I believe was a part of the Storm distribution. It contains the Storm Administration System

[SLUG] Port list

2002-03-20 Thread Marko Denev
Hi Guys, Could someone please tell me where I can get a list/table of the generic port numbers. The information that I'm seeking, for example is http port is 80 or 8080 etc I hope this makes sense. thanks Marko [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List -

Re: [SLUG] Maps of Sydney ...

2002-03-20 Thread Anand Kumria
On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 02:16:41AM +1100, Harry Ohlsen wrote: I have an application where I need some street-level maps of Sydney (other capital cities would be nice, too; Melbourne and Brisbane, in particular) in a format that I can decipher via some code, or where there exist Linux

Re: [SLUG] Port list

2002-03-20 Thread Chris Young
On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 11:29:12AM +1100, Marko Denev wrote: Could someone please tell me where I can get a list/table of the generic port numbers. The information that I'm seeking, for example is http port is 80 or 8080 etc Using google for about 10 seconds reveals:

Re: [SLUG] Port list

2002-03-20 Thread Terry Collins
Marko Denev wrote: Hi Guys, Could someone please tell me where I can get a list/table of the generic port numbers. The information that I'm seeking, for example is http port is 80 or 8080 etc /etc/services 80 is normal, but seems common practise inhouse to block 80 and use 8080 if

Re: [SLUG] Port list

2002-03-20 Thread Anand Kumria
On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 11:29:12AM +1100, Marko Denev wrote: Hi Guys, Could someone please tell me where I can get a list/table of the generic port numbers. The information that I'm seeking, for example is http port is 80 or 8080 etc I hope this makes sense. On most Unix machines

Re: [SLUG] Telstra little pond cable and Linux

2002-03-20 Thread Mick Howe
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 19:22, you wrote: Sluggers, Just need some advice and opinions on a little job I've been offered. Question 1. Is it possible to connect to Telstra Cable from Linux? I'm not familiar with Telstra cable, I assume that there is some sort of cable modem that handles that

Re: [SLUG] Port list

2002-03-20 Thread Marko Denev
thanks Marko [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Anand Kumria [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marko Denev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: slug-ers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Port list On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 11:29:12AM +1100, Marko Denev wrote:

[SLUG] NIS login problems - more info

2002-03-20 Thread Nicholas Reese
Hi all, I have set up /etc/exports (configured to my system IP info) as suggested by Karl (see below). /home 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,ro_root_squash) I still get permission denied by the server when I try to automount /home on the client machine. Further information about my system: I

Re: [SLUG] Creating icons in gnome - RH7.1

2002-03-20 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Terry Collins Running two machines; gnome on rh7.1. On neither machine can I creat an icon that launches an application. Instead properties shows it as a desktop (i.e. right click, then select open to run). How do I get ne of those click and run icons (yes, I'm doing right

Re: [SLUG] Creating icons in gnome - RH7.1

2002-03-20 Thread Terry Collins
Jeff Waugh wrote: Sounds like you're using GMC, but I can't really decipher what the problem is from your mail. A bit clearer now that it's later in the morning? :) It doesn't create an icon on the desktop, so that when you click on it, it launches the application. There is an icon there, but

Re: [SLUG] Telstra little pond cable and Linux

2002-03-20 Thread Peter Rundle
Thanx everyone for the advice, seems that bpalogin is the go, read the FAQ and install docs and I actually understand it so feeling pretty confident that I can get it to work. So having just said that no doubt I'll be back here in a couple of days stressing.. Cheers Pete -- SLUG -

[Fwd: Re: [SLUG] OT: reliable mail]

2002-03-20 Thread Peter Rundle
Of course, if X is something like 6 hours, then it only takes your connection to be down for a few minutes when it tries the first few times, and the message could easily take 24 hours to get to you. Well actually your connection would have to be down a couple of times in sync with when

Re: [SLUG] Re: Maps of Sydney

2002-03-20 Thread Michael Lake
Kennedy, Adam wrote: Can I add just as a warning, don't use their maps for anything remotely commercial unless you pay them, and even if it's free, be very carefull. True Map companies are very sensitive about their data, it's their main asset, and they spend millions aquiring the data.

Re: [SLUG] Making Debian easier??

2002-03-20 Thread Grant Parnell
On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Richard Hayes wrote: Dear list, As a Debian dummy who is trying to change from Red Hat to Debian but is failling ;) I read about the Storm Administration System which I believe was a part of the Storm distribution. It contains the Storm Administration System

Re: [SLUG] ppp authentication problem

2002-03-20 Thread Grant Parnell
On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Ken Caldwell wrote: 'evening all, I am trying to get two Debian boxes talking to each other via the PSTN. Both boxes have the same users and passwords. This box has mgetty running on ttyS1. I can login to this box from the other one using minicom but I want another

[SLUG] Nomination

2002-03-20 Thread Tony Green
I would like to (re)accept my nomination for the SLUG committee (yet another change of circumstance) Thanks Greeno -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG Key : 1024D/B5657C8B Key fingerprint = 9ED8 59CC C161 B857 462E 51E6 7DFB 465B B565 7C8B -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List -

[SLUG] Opinions, please.

2002-03-20 Thread Bill Bennett
I'd like to install elvis, which is a vi/ex clone, but it occurred to me to ask if anyone has any experience with others. Has anyone any strong feelings they'd like to air? Regards, Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

Re: [SLUG] Opinions, please.

2002-03-20 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Bill Bennett I'd like to install elvis, which is a vi/ex clone, but it occurred to me to ask if anyone has any experience with others. Has anyone any strong feelings they'd like to air? I use vim. It has lots of stuff that vi purists chastise me for, which is fine by me. :-) -

[SLUG] Potato 2.2r4 re-install problem

2002-03-20 Thread Adam Bogacki
Hi, my potato reinstall has struck problems . All went well until I had to install LILO either on /dev/hda (XP drive) or /dev/hdb. Attempted installation on /dev/hda received the message -

Re: [SLUG] Port list

2002-03-20 Thread DaZZa
On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Marko Denev wrote: Could someone please tell me where I can get a list/table of the generic port numbers. The information that I'm seeking, for example is http port is 80 or 8080 etc I hope this makes sense. fred:~ #less /etc/services # # Network services,