RE: [SOCIAL CREDIT] ponzi

2003-09-02 Thread Michael Bindner
Redistribution within the firm comes from switching to a VAT with credits to the paying firm for dependents - which are paid to employees explicitly as part of salary. This will causes firms to change their salary structures somewhat, but not as much as you would think. Employee-ownership will do

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] ponzi

2003-08-29 Thread sutton
On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 8:24 pm, William wrote: It is the reverse of a sales tax except it is not charged against tax collections but is charged against the National Credit Account. --- Jessop here:- The National Credit Account could simply pay an amount over to Revenue to

RE: [SOCIAL CREDIT] ponzi

2003-08-29 Thread william_b_ryan
Inserted comments [comments 08-29] below: -- On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 8:24 pm, William wrote: It is the reverse of a sales tax except it is not charged against tax collections but is charged against the National Credit Account. --- Jessop here:- The National Credit Account

RE: [SOCIAL CREDIT] ponzi

2003-08-29 Thread Michael Bindner
I assure you, the incomes of the rich are increasing. Their taxes could be raised in order to pay off the national debt. By government profit, I do mean a surplus - although profit is the correct term if social services and education are spun off to faith based organizations and income

RE: [SOCIAL CREDIT] ponzi

2003-08-28 Thread Michael Bindner
The question still remains, who won't be benefiting from money creation if it is shifted to social credit? Is it bond traders or perhaps the federal treasury? How will it impact the economy to not use credit to create money? It would seem to me that while the federal debt is in place, it would

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] ponzi

2003-08-28 Thread sutton
On Wednesday 27 Aug 2003 8:50 pm, Bill wrote: The National Credit Account carries a balance available to fund dividends that is estimated to be the totality of latent productive capacity. Bill, With all the national statistics produced monthly, quarterly, yearly, is there a short way by

RE: [SOCIAL CREDIT] ponzi

2003-08-28 Thread william_b_ryan
Some comments [comment 08-28] are inserted below: -- The question still remains, who won't be benefiting from money creation if it is shifted to social credit? Is it bond traders or perhaps the federal treasury? How will it impact the economy to not use credit to create money?

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] ponzi

2003-08-28 Thread william_b_ryan
***This could be done selectively as well, penalising luxury goods and subsidising essential basics.*** You could but it would mire you in endless debate and require complicated bureaucracy for enforcement. Penalizing luxury goods and subsidizing essential basics is not the purpose of the

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] ponzi

2003-08-27 Thread Michael Bindner
and how does money get into the national credit account? Further, what is done about the hording of B funds?

RE: [SOCIAL CREDIT] ponzi

2003-08-27 Thread william_b_ryan
***and how does money get into the national credit account? Further, what is done about the hording of B funds?*** Keep in mind that the banking system as a whole, to the extent it can be considered to be one big bank with many branches--has what is tantamount to an unlimited overdraft

RE: [SOCIAL CREDIT] ponzi

2003-08-27 Thread Michael Bindner
Pretend my degree is in public policy and finance rather than in banking (which is in fact true). What actions happen on what date by whom to distribute the national credit? Let me venture a guess and you can tell me if I am correct. Sept 15: Federal Reserve estimates amount to be distributed to

RE: [SOCIAL CREDIT] ponzi

2003-08-27 Thread william_b_ryan
Something like that; it is certainly not rocket science. First of all, we have to address the concerns of the skeptics, so the checks would have to be very modest in the beginning. Perhaps $100 or $25. That can be increased gradually as time goes on with increasing political acceptance.

[SOCIAL CREDIT] ponzi

2003-08-26 Thread william_b_ryan
***Doesn't this make the creation of money, to some extent, a Ponzi scheme - which crashes down when too many bad loans are made (such as for the creation of the dot.coms)?*** Not from what I said in that particular post. Ponzi finance means you are borrowing merely to pay earlier loans.