RE: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Angus Davidson
Hi Luc-eric I kinda suspected that was the case. It might be worth updating the FAQ just to state that. However it shows just how far out of touch the people making the decisions are. Even if your in the very lucky position that you are not forced by some or other constraint to use a specific

Re: uv broken on export

2013-09-10 Thread Gerbrand Nel
Thanks Olivier!! But it seems like they'll break again when I xport to zbrush from 2013. Oh well. This forced me to learn how to edit uvs in zbrush :) G On 2013/09/09 03:23 PM, olivier jeannel wrote: I understand your problem is in the other way, but Orlando Esponda posted a quick fix for

Re: uv broken on export

2013-09-10 Thread Gerbrand Nel
My problem is how softimage exports obj files. I've tested exporting a mesh with nice uv's and re-importing it, without going into zbrush. its broken most of the time. This seems to be fixed in 2014, but not everyone on the team has updated so I need to work around this problem. My best

Seting Custom Attribute on object to control textures

2013-09-10 Thread pingo van der brinkloev
This should be so simple. I need to create several packshots with only Material, but different textures - so I only have to make corrections one place - Clients, pffh. Anyway I create a custom attribute on my object by making an ICE Tree (under modeling) with a Set Data node(Self.Texture) I

Re: Seting Custom Attribute on object to control textures

2013-09-10 Thread Sandy Sutherland
I should think the Texture in Self.Texture is a reserved name - so you should use something else - Self.SS_texture - and use that in the render tree. S. On 2013/09/10 11:17 AM, pingo van der brinkloev wrote: This should be so simple. I need to create several packshots with only Material,

Re: Seting Custom Attribute on object to control textures

2013-09-10 Thread pingo van der brinkloev
Hey, thanks, but it doesn't matter what I call it. Still wont work. I really did read the docs.. Looks so easy. ... On 10/09/2013, at 11.19, Sandy Sutherland wrote: I should think the Texture in Self.Texture is a reserved name - so you should use something else - Self.SS_texture - and use

Re: softimage.tv - Hello World!

2013-09-10 Thread Mirko Jankovic
and after all of this... *autodesk had a meeting with all the studios in london who use xsi and said they arent really going to develop it for the film/advert side of things, now all development is from a small team in asia and they will develop mainly for games* * * From a source... well

Re: softimage.tv - Hello World!

2013-09-10 Thread Mario Domingos
... — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com wrote: and after all of this... *autodesk had a meeting with all the studios in london who use xsi and said they arent really going to develop it for the film/advert side of

Re: softimage.tv - Hello World!

2013-09-10 Thread Cristobal Infante
Can we please keep this thread about positive things coming out of softimage. If you would you like to vent your anger towards Autodesk please do it on another thread, there are plenty already out there. On 10 September 2013 10:47, Mario Domingos mdomingos.p...@gmail.com wrote: ... — Sent

Re: softimage.tv - Hello World!

2013-09-10 Thread Martin Contel
+1 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Octavian Ureche okt...@gmail.com wrote: To be honest, i'd like to know more about what has been said at that meeting. Maybe someone could pop another thread up. I believe this stuff pretty much affects everyone that uses this application. On Tue, Sep

Re: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Maurice Patel
Hi Angus, You are right about people wanting to maintain working pipelines based on older versions. This is our expectation and this has been taken into account. Still we have to start somewhere. Rental is the way many people want to go for flexibility. Today only e-flex gives that kind of

Re: Seting Custom Attribute on object to control textures

2013-09-10 Thread Ognjen Vukovic
Sorry, Color_Map_Lookup node. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Ognjen Vukovic ognj...@gmail.com wrote: Could you not just apply the texture through the propertytexture maptexture map on a per object basis. Assign one shader too all the objects and use a texture map lookup node, and use it

ICE deform by curve keeps breaking live link

2013-09-10 Thread Morten Bartholdy
When deforming geometry by curve in ICE I keep loosing the live link to the curve, so the geometry doesn't change shape when the curve does. The geo is still deformed like when I applied the deform by curve, only it does not react to shape changes on the curve, which makes me think it might be an

RE: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Angus Davidson
Hi Maurice Firstly thanks for stepping up to the plate ;) While I can understand your logic, surely there should have been some explanation of this up front. Whether its in the FAQ, or on the rental page. Part of the problem as you lay out in your last sentence is that you cant talk about

RE: arrays yet again

2013-09-10 Thread Xavier
I could make this array in my sleep with Perl. But….this is not Perl…. Is that anywhere close to a sweet dream?

Re: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Mirko Jankovic
Well as I posted on another thread and will do it again no matter that there some that will say for crying out loud or similar... *autodesk had a meeting with all the studios in london who use xsi and said they arent really going to develop it for the film/advert side of things, now all

RE: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Maurice Patel
Hi Angus, Mostly this is not intentional. Rental is being launched only for Suites at this point which means standalone products like AutoCAD, Revit and Inventor are not available either. However, we are also in parallel testing the waters with Maya and 3ds Max but Autodesk is not rolling out

Übertage travel?

2013-09-10 Thread Schoenberger
Hi I am planing my trip to Übertage (and then a week NRW). To just to check: Is anyone driving from Düsseldorf/Neuss? As we probably go to drink some in the evening and the last train takes 3h. Otherwise, I will get a hotel for two nights and drive myself Stuttgart-Siegen and Siegen-Neuss

RE: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Marc-Andre Carbonneau
Well because then it would become competition again... From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mirko Jankovic Sent: 10 septembre 2013 10:09 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Softimage Rental? If they hate SI that

Re: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Luca!!!!
Yeah, but answering directily to why Softimage is out the rental plan it's not that difficult to answer, I guess. And I don't think there is coherency in ...just for suitestesting the waters with Max and Maya... it doesn't make sense. It's obvious Softimage is ignored. So.. WHY?...

Re: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Tim Crowson
If that report is true, it's a good thing that Soft is as mature as it is. I mean frankly, apart from ICE improvements, how is 'not developing for film/advert' any different than in the last few years? -Tim C. On 9/10/2013 8:10 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Well as I posted on another thread and

Re: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread peter_b
couldn’t agree more with your analysis Matt. I don’t think AD is reading the situation very well – but who knows... a lot of men-in-suit’s necks must be on the line, so perhaps out of sheer necessity they might come up with something - and if they hurry it might still make a difference. Or

Re: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Mirko Jankovic
If they hate SI that much why they don't just give it to someone else that will actually develop it... On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: If that report is true, it's a good thing that Soft is as mature as it is. I mean frankly, apart from ICE

Re: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Tim Crowson
But if they (AD) don't think they themselves can make money with it, is not wanting to sell it an acknowledgment that it really could be competition against them? Ironic. I mean, they've stated that Soft doesn't bring in much money for them, compared to the other DCCs. They clearly view it as

Re: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Eugen Sares
There was some technology transfer from Soft to Maya, also. Too less to live, too much to die... a deadlock. What I still hope for is that what's left of the development resources is invested as wisely as possible. Best would be to improve extensibility, so it becomes easier for 3rd parties to

Re: arrays yet again

2013-09-10 Thread Alok Gandhi
If you can work out array logics in your dreams then yes, it is indeed a sweet dream ! Sent from my iPhone On 2013-09-10, at 9:06 AM, Xavier lapointe.xav...@gmail.com wrote: I could make this array in my sleep with Perl. But….this is not Perl…. Is that anywhere close to a sweet dream?

Re: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Martin
That report would make sense if AD would have released Softimage LT, but they released only MayaLT for the indie/mobile game industry. And if that report is true, then SI will be oriented to games only with a viewer that, if I didn't misunderstood Luc Eric explanation, it doesn't make much sense

Re: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Mirko Jankovic
What is there to understand? Imay be lying but a friend told me about documentary or article about guy that formed AD.. his only and only goal was Money alone. Nothing wrong there but his philosophy is transferred through out AD as complete so there is absolutely no room for nothing else than pure

Re: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Daniel Brassard
Thanks Maurice. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Maurice Patel maurice.pa...@autodesk.comwrote: Hi Daniel, No. unfortunately there is no option to convert to a permanent license. It is not really designed as a lease-to-buy plan. Not saying that might not happen in the future but it is not

Rant: Caching tools still suck

2013-09-10 Thread Eric Lampi
Why is it that after all of these years, caching has to be a big bag of pain-in-the-ass? We have 3 different ways to do it and they all suck in one way or another. The fact is, none of them are great or elegant. Trying to get them to write out the damned custom attributes is bad enough and then

Re: Rant: Caching tools still suck

2013-09-10 Thread Eric Thivierge
You're welcome. :) http://exocortex.com/products/crate

Re: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Daniel Brassard
Quick question for Maurice, if you rent over time pass the two year mark, can you then be provided the option to convert to a permanent license? On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Daniel Brassard dbrassar...@gmail.comwrote: The hidden value of Softimage is in it's patents. AD did a smart move

RE: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Angus Davidson
Daniel is very correct. Even if Soft is one day EOL it continues to be very valuable to AD$K From: Daniel Brassard [dbrassar...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 September 2013 05:35 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Softimage Rental? The hidden value of

Re: Rant: Caching tools still suck

2013-09-10 Thread Vincent Fortin
The best way I've found to work around the custom attribute issue is to lay down a Log Value node with Log actually turned off. I find the usual Attribute Display trick unreliable especially in batch mode. I always use the CacheObjectsIntoFile method (aka Cache Manage). Frankly for an out of the

something broken in syflex ice?

2013-09-10 Thread Andi Farhall
2 point springs appear to broken in 2014sp2/linux. Just to double check, i loaded the sample scene that demonstrates the 2 point spring, and there's nothing going on. I'll have a butchers at the win7 version later. cheers, Andi.

Re: something broken in syflex ice?

2013-09-10 Thread David Barosin
I had a similar problem with the length parameter on the syflexISpring node not working. I'm guessing it happened with the introduction of weightmaps for syflex. I submitted a bug report but you may want to add this one to the list. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Andi Farhall

RE: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Graham Bell
Erm, I'm not sure where that 'source' has come from, but I think some wires might have been crossed about what was said at this meeting There was a meeting in London with Softimage customers, back in June. It was somewhat hastily arranged (but don't read anything into that). The meeting was not

Re: Übertage travel?

2013-09-10 Thread Leonard Koch
There are really cheap hotels in Siegen. When I looked into it last year I found some for less than 30€ a night. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Octavian Ureche okt...@gmail.com wrote: Heya, I am currently pondering over train / airplane / motorcycle. Haven't made up my mind yet. Will

Anyone have examples of writing custom ICE attributes via the SDK?

2013-09-10 Thread Alan Fregtman
Hey guys, So I called the AddICEAttribute() method, and on its returned attribute I can't seem to set its .DataArray property with a simple list of integers. It logs this: *# WARNING : 3392 - Invalid offset specified while extracting data from this attribute: Attribute: myCustomAttr* *# Offset:

Re: softimage.tv - Hello World!

2013-09-10 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Well is about us then, showing those AD animals throught softimage.tv that Softimage is alive and kicking. And that Softimage is by far better than Maya and 3DMax even that now is in Asia with whatever Devs are there. I wonder what the studios using Softimage said about this. I can guess that

Re: Anyone have examples of writing custom ICE attributes via the SDK?

2013-09-10 Thread Stephen Blair
http://xsisupport.com/2012/11/13/scripting-writing-the-dataarray-of-an-ice-attribute/ http://xsisupport.com/2013/03/25/aha-setting-dataarray2d-with-jscript/ On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Alan Fregtman alan.fregt...@gmail.comwrote: Hey guys, So I called the AddICEAttribute() method, and on

Re: Übertage travel?

2013-09-10 Thread Octavian Ureche
Thanks Leonard. This will definitely help. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Leonard Koch leonardkoch...@gmail.comwrote: Here, all of these hotels have hostel-like prices: http://www.villa-trallala.de/preise.htm http://www.hoteljakobgarni.de/html/zimmer.html

Re: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Eugen Sares
Maya got enough other problems... I don't envy them, at all. AD's predicament is, throttling down Softimage development too far is going to stagnate sells, and they don't exactly look like a company that wants to keep a non-profitable product. But they don't want to sell it either, because

Re: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Luca!!!!
It would be great. But they have an agreement with Maxon now, so it's like they have C4D 2013/9/10 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com Let's write Adobe to buy Softimage. They are only missing now a 3D software. :P 2013/9/10 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org Maya got enough other

RE: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Matt Lind
Core replacement would likely be all or nothing as it would take a long time to replicate all the duties in a new core and get all the bugs out. At this stage of the game, it's deal with it or write a new application. What I'd like to know is why all these studios around the world are being

Re: Anyone have examples of writing custom ICE attributes via the SDK?

2013-09-10 Thread Vincent Ullmann
Did you saw this example from the dosc? http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/softimage2014/en_us/sdkguide/si_om/ICEAttribute.DataArray.html (2. Example) Here is a little Snipped i wrote some time ago. Note: It works only with a Cube. Not with a NonFrezzedPointCloud [snip] from

Re: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Thanks for clarifying this one Graham. Good that someone from AD kills this rumors. 2013/9/10 Graham Bell graham.b...@autodesk.com Erm, I'm not sure where that 'source' has come from, but I think some wires might have been crossed about what was said at this meeting There was a meeting in

Re: Übertage travel?

2013-09-10 Thread Leonard Koch
Here, all of these hotels have hostel-like prices: http://www.villa-trallala.de/preise.htm http://www.hoteljakobgarni.de/html/zimmer.html http://www.garni-tell.de/zimmer.html http://www.akuna-matata.de/2.html http://www.rosenhof-siegen.de/zimmerpreise.html Hope this helps. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013

Re: ICE deform by curve keeps breaking live link

2013-09-10 Thread Alan Fregtman
Not sure why it's losing the link, but I can tell you ICE optimization is not it. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Morten Bartholdy x...@colorshopvfx.dkwrote: ** When deforming geometry by curve in ICE I keep loosing the live link to the curve, so the geometry doesn't change shape when

RE: softimage.tv - Hello World!

2013-09-10 Thread Matt Lind
Funny, we're a games studio and have been working on a project for 8.5 years which is expected to live for another 8.5 years. We have not seen significant work in the games features in quite a long time. We've seen several revamps of existing technology such as realtime shaders, often with

RE: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Maurice Patel
Hi Daniel, No. unfortunately there is no option to convert to a permanent license. It is not really designed as a lease-to-buy plan. Not saying that might not happen in the future but it is not what the plan is today. Maurice Maurice Patel Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134 From:

Re: Anyone have examples of writing custom ICE attributes via the SDK?

2013-09-10 Thread Alan Fregtman
What about non-singleton attributes like say a per-point integer? I can't get those to be set. I can work around it in my case, but I'm curious why it won't work like the docs appear to imply. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Alan Fregtman alan.fregt...@gmail.comwrote: I missed those posts.

RE: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Schoenberger
And if Softimage is a competition, AD would have to improve Maya and 3dsmax that people are still buying it... Naa, to much work... just sit on the subscription... Holger Schönberger technical director The day has 24 hours, if that does not suffice, I will take the night _

Re: Anyone have examples of writing custom ICE attributes via the SDK?

2013-09-10 Thread Alan Fregtman
I missed those posts. Thanks Stephen! :) On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Stephen Blair stephenrbl...@gmail.comwrote: http://xsisupport.com/2012/11/13/scripting-writing-the-dataarray-of-an-ice-attribute/ http://xsisupport.com/2013/03/25/aha-setting-dataarray2d-with-jscript/ On Tue, Sep

RE: �bertage travel?

2013-09-10 Thread Schoenberger
Ok, taking a hotel from 12.-14. So if anyone needs to get from Stuttgart to Siegen on Thursday evening, let me know. Holger Schönberger technical director The day has 24 hours, if that does not suffice, I will take the night | -Original Message- | From:

Re: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Let's write Adobe to buy Softimage. They are only missing now a 3D software. :P 2013/9/10 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org Maya got enough other problems... I don't envy them, at all. AD's predicament is, throttling down Softimage development too far is going to stagnate sells, and they

Re: Rant: Caching tools still suck

2013-09-10 Thread Morten Bartholdy
I would definately vote for a reworked centralized cacheing tool which left no doubt what is being done. I agree with Eric that the current implementation is a mess. +1 for better mixer integration Vincent :) Morten Den 10. september 2013 kl. 18:06 skrev Vincent Fortin vfor...@gmail.com:

Re: Übertage travel?

2013-09-10 Thread Octavian Ureche
Heya, I am currently pondering over train / airplane / motorcycle. Haven't made up my mind yet. Will probably leave motorcycle out cuz it's a 4000 km round trip from bucharest to siegen. And i have knobbies on :) What i find odd though, is that i can't find any hostels in siegen...only hotels.

Re: Softimage Rental?

2013-09-10 Thread Daniel Brassard
The hidden value of Softimage is in it's patents. AD did a smart move buying Softimage from Avid. It allowed them freedom to implement features in other apps with less risk of infringement. Less so for a competitor. I don't think AD will let that go. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:26 AM,

Naiad the Ice team

2013-09-10 Thread Nick Angus
Perhaps not something that will put any Softimage rumours to rest, but interesting nonetheless. The FX guide articles are always very in-depth and well thought out and this one is no different. Interesting seeing the awful Maya node graph being tunneled into with a very ICE-like interface.

Re: Rant: Caching tools still suck

2013-09-10 Thread Vincent Fortin
Anyone doing any regular particle work in Softimage should spend some time (or money) on a command-line caching system. It gets rid of all custom attribute related issues and gives you unlimited processing licenses. Even if you don't have a farm it's just simpler and faster to run sims in a dos