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On 08/09/14 20:58, Jason S wrote:
On 08/09/14 8:22, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:
Yes you lose the right to run
three versions back when the subscription lapses. You can
only run the
Subsription Models per se are not the problem but the artificial
restrictions Autodesk builds in.
There are customer friendly ways to do the subscription and contract
thing and customer unfriendly ways.
I have subscripition contracts at other companys. There is no
restriction for older
Ah, right. Missed the older version part. Thanks for clarifying.
Sergio Muciño.
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On Aug 12, 2014, at 1:17 AM, Eric Turman i.anima...@gmail.com wrote:
That was not the case earlier this year when we wanted to rent a 2013
Maya...we were told that only 2014 was available to
...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Turman
Sent: August-12-14 1:17 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: EOL and using older Softimages
That was not the case earlier this year when we wanted to rent a 2013 Maya...we
were told that only 2014
2014 12:01
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: EOL and using older Softimages
preventing the use of previous versions unless you basically commit forever,
and even then – only 3 versions back!
2012 is now officially off-limits for subscription customers.
I remember a message from
@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: EOL and using older Softimages
preventing the use of previous versions unless you basically commit
forever,
and even then – only 3 versions back!
2012 is now officially off-limits for subscription customers.
I remember a message from an AD rep here, suggesting
...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mirko Jankovic
Sent: 11 August 2014 16:17
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: EOL and using older Softimages
How ever you put it it is stil fact that model was made ONLY to push people to
subs meaning steady income for AD with less need to actually
, and support, is for the current versions and 3
versions back.
G
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of pete...@skynet.be
Sent: 10 August 2014 12:01
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: EOL and using older Softimages
One other thing to consider is that software business models are evolving
throughout the industry. Subscription models are becoming increasingly common.
Things have changed a lot along the way – when I started in the industry, you
could pay $60K for a paint system (Matador 64). Maya 1.0 with
I think we all know that nobody uses the latest version for any project, or at
least almost nobody (personally I've never used the latest version, only for
testing). And some very long projects use 4 years old or more versions and you
need to keep upgrading for the other projects that may use 2
It is not stupid.. for finance reasons as Graham already said. It makes
perfect sense from financial point for AD.
It makes really bad one for people that actually have to use it. Or it is
like target only latest one..the rest.. f*k them.. same message SI users
already had in their face
On
Just to be clear, rental is actually Desktop Subscription, which does include
the right to use the previous version.
Jill
-Original Message-
Yet the only version you can buy or rent is the latest one, which nobody uses
and can't save in previous versions, so it is completely useless
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Subject: Re: EOL and using older Softimages
It is not stupid.. for finance reasons as Graham already said. It makes perfect
sense from financial point for AD.
It makes really bad one for people that actually have to use it. Or it is like
target only latest one..the rest
@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:
softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: EOL and using older Softimages
It is not stupid.. for finance reasons as Graham already said. It makes
perfect sense from financial point for AD.
It makes really bad one for people that actually have to use
As Graham has already mentioned in this thread, there is a mechanism for
customers on Subscription to request earlier versions.
Apart from sounding like the business equivalent of a platitude, it does not
work because of the limiting factor of the past three previous versions is
imposed.
RIght, I understand that, but why the arbitrary hoops in the first place?
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Jill Ramsay (Contractor)
jill.ram...@autodesk.com wrote:
As Graham has already mentioned in this thread, there is a mechanism for
customers on Subscription to request earlier versions.
If rental is like subscription then you can use previous versions you have
bought in the past, so for a newcomer it is as useless as buying it.
So what if, hypothetically, I receive an offer to work in Maya 2012 which I
don't own and the payment is good enough to invest on it. With the current
That was not the case earlier this year when we wanted to rent a 2013
Maya...we were told that only 2014 was available to us.
On Aug 11, 2014 9:37 PM, Sergio Mucino sergio.muc...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess you could also rent the Maya license for the duration of the
project. Renting is a very
preventing the use of previous versions unless you basically commit forever,
and even then – only 3 versions back!
2012 is now officially off-limits for subscription customers.
I remember a message from an AD rep here, suggesting not to upgrade a few
licenses just in order to keep access to an
Quote : /Definitely not doing that anymore - at this point my ONLY
criterium for a replacement is that it isn’t AD./
+1
I wonder how many of us will think that way though.
Le 10/08/2014 13:01, pete...@skynet.be a écrit :
preventing the use of previous versions unless you basically commit
Looking at all the familiar names popping up in 3D forums that aren't AD
related, I would say a lot ;-)
It seems a lot of ppl are testing the waters on other 3D apps, but a lot
of that isn't Max or Maya it seems.
Rob
\/-\/\/
On 10-8-2014 13:19, olivier
In the last time I had to open old stuff created in 5.11 ten (or was it
more?) years ago. And there are definitely things not working in the
actual versions (i.e. some 32Bit Plugins).
I can´t remember a time in my life when I was bugged / irritated over
such a long time about the same stuff
Yes you lose the right to run three versions back when the subscription
lapses. You can only run the last version you installed.
On Aug 8, 2014 2:09 PM, phil harbath phil.harb...@jamination.com wrote:
What was the final verdict on using older versions of Softimage, I saw
on the EOL page
Thank you for clarification Luc-Eric.
It is apparent that the policies Autodesk has enacted are completely
pernicious and unconscionable. Such an egregious and unilaterally
oppressive action is only going to serve as a suppurating sore, sowing the
seeds of mistrust of Autodesk within the small
+1
Am 09.08.2014 22:00, schrieb Eric Turman:
Thank you for clarification Luc-Eric.
It is apparent that the policies Autodesk has enacted are completely
pernicious and unconscionable. Such an egregious and unilaterally
oppressive action is only going to serve as a suppurating sore, sowing
If Autodesk management think this is a fair way to treat your clients I would
suggest to think again, nothing positive will come out of it.
Jordi Bares
jordiba...@gmail.com
On 9 Aug 2014, at 21:00, Eric Turman i.anima...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for clarification Luc-Eric.
It is apparent
+1
On 09/08/14 22:26, Jordi Bares wrote:
If Autodesk management think this is a fair way to treat your clients I would
suggest to think again, nothing positive will come out of it.
Jordi Bares
jordiba...@gmail.com
On 9 Aug 2014, at 21:00, Eric Turman i.anima...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank
On 08/09/14 8:22, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:
Yes you lose the right to run
three versions back when the subscription lapses. You can
only run the last version you installed.
Even if you technically paid for all of them.
What was the final verdict on using older versions of Softimage, I saw on the
EOL page you could use up to 3 versions back. Does that require the user to be
on active subscription. My case is I am on 2015 but my subscription just
lapsed.
Phil Harbath
jamination
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