I may be wrong there… time will tell… let's talk in 4 years.
Jordi Bares
jordiba...@gmail.com
On 6 Mar 2014, at 01:02, Alok Gandhi alok.gandhi2...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think Max is going anywhere. The last I heard, AD was looking for a
principal max engineer. I interviewed fir the same a
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Subject: Re: let me fan the flames.
I don't think Max itself can be disposed of that quickly. It's being obviously
pushed further and further into design lands leaving the entertainment field
clear for Maya, but I doubt it'll be dispatched of in the next year or two, or
even
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I don't think Max itself can be disposed of that quickly. It's
3dMax is next. Users are complaining about the lame upgrade at 2015
I have already seen a post that says Max will no longer get development.
http://www.reddit.com/r/vfx/comments/z8o09/autodesk_is_no_longer_going_to_develop_3dsmax_and/
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:
3dMax is next. Users are complaining about the lame
The writing is on the wall. This is my take.
1 - Mudbox is next as Zbrush has truly wiped the market.
2 - Morion Builder next as they implement some tech in maya.
3 - 3DMax goes next.
Anyone want to bet?
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On 5 Mar 2014, at 17:12, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:
i agree with the first two, just 3dsmax has too much installed user base. i
know we are mad and we are making a stink about it... but if they axed
max?! autodesk might have to consider extra security...
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com wrote:
The writing is on
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Steven Caron car...@gmail.com wrote:
autodesk might have to consider extra security...
Well if they ever travel to Montreal they'll need to hire Blackwater ops
and drive around in armored vehicles like it's Fallujah.
I guess it's a good thing Max is the lowest voted in my transition poll:
http://strawpoll.me/1257710/r
:p
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Steven Caron car...@gmail.com wrote:
i agree with the first two, just 3dsmax has too much installed user base.
i know we are mad and we are making a
The market place will force AD to consolidate it's resources on one
package, or significantly modify existing apps, or it fails regardless
of user base. The competition is only getting stiffer and it can't hold
onto multiple packages in their current state. That's my thought anyway.
On
I sort of agree about the Max userbase, but they will lose Max market share
at an ever increasing rate due to all the rumors having dramatically more
credibility now. If you're a Max user, would you hedge your bets on them
not killing it, or would you learn something else? And if you're a
Yes, but what they might do (are doing imho) is just keeping updates as
irrelevant as possible for animation, not to encourage new users to pick it
up with that in mind.
Em quarta-feira, 5 de março de 2014, Steven Caron car...@gmail.com
escreveu:
i agree with the first two, just 3dsmax has too
aren't they based in montreal? ;P
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Simon van de Lagemaat
si...@theembassyvfx.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Steven Caron car...@gmail.com wrote:
autodesk might have to consider extra security...
Well if they ever travel to Montreal they'll
More reasons to stay with softimage
El mar 5, 2014 1:42 PM, Gustavo Eggert Boehs gustav...@gmail.com
escribió:
Yes, but what they might do (are doing imho) is just keeping updates as
irrelevant as possible for animation, not to encourage new users to pick it
up with that in mind.
Em
If they kill any of those the only one I think would be a mistake would be
Motion Builder… it has great potential if they decide to actually develop it…
it has been in limbo mode like Softimage for years now and killing the Mac
version was truly annoying.
3DSMax… well… the architecture is so
Well we all still think that putting Softimage to rest is a big mistake.
Motion Builder also has not major improvements. So we know how all will
end.
We will continue to support and develop...
---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.
Well, as I posted over on CGTalk, I don't think killing Softimage was a
real business decision. If ME account for only 7% of ADSK's revenue, and
Softimage is one of the smallest components of that revenue, it's
insignificant. But, executives need to pound their chests like gorillas
and proclaim
People often take the whole antitrust thing a bit too far.
Antitrust laws, contrary to popular belief, don't prohibit de-facto
monopolies in any way other than those emerging maliciously or
aggressively. They are intended to try and avoid them, of course, but there
is nothing illegal to a monopoly
I suppose I was looking back and remembering the government going after
Microsoft for being a monopoly because it bundled IE with Windows.
Netscape existed back then, as did Apple, but it didn't stop them from
going after Microsoft.
I'd be interested to see what percentage of the entire market
yes, although that that was a rather different situation, like you said
windows came/comes bundled with IE, had microsoft been selling it/giving it
away as an entirely separate product users would have had more of a chance
of picking alternative browsers, and had that been the case I doubt the
I think it'd be pretty hard to even determine the market size in first
place. Film? Probably so close to totality it wouldn't be funny, but then
Nuke for comp in the same market, ZBrush for sculpting, soon enough Mari
for texturing, until not long ago PRMan for rendering (now a well
challenged
There is so much more that is wrong and could be fixed
Of course what can legal often bears very little, to sometimes NO
relation to what can be considered ethical
On 03/05/14 17:09, Raffaele Fragapane wrote:
People often take the whole antitrust thing a bit too far.
Antitrust laws,
Ethical simply doesn't enter the picture when you interface with a publicly
traded corp. Whether it's sad or not is a different discussion, but never
expect ethical from any profit driven organization.
This is not a criticism levelled to any company, it's just an important
thing to keep in mind
And of that revenue, $20,000,000+ went to key executive
compensationhttp://insiders.morningstar.com/trading/executive-compensation.action?t=ADSK
in 2013
That is down, 21%, from 2012. If the total income from ME is only 7% of
total income
It's like shutting down the national park to balance the
BTW, the Stock return of AD was 42.35% in 2013 over 2012, so the
stockholders made their money.
It's all about the stockholders.
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.netwrote:
And of that revenue, $20,000,000+ went to key executive
Very well put.. like trying to reason with a robot locked on it's
crush/dominate mode program preset by whatever means (to an end)
necessary. (necessarily mean)
On 03/05/14 17:51, Raffaele Fragapane wrote:
Ethical simply doesn't enter the picture when you interface with a
publicly traded
You are hitting a nerve there!WARNING - Totally OT:It's a fact that money does never "work", it's always people who do. If people pour their money onto the stock exchange to "make" more money,somebody will have to actually do real work to produce that profit (produce some goods that did not exist
I don't think Max is going anywhere. The last I heard, AD was looking for a
principal max engineer. I interviewed fir the same a couple of months ago.
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On Mar 6, 2014, at 0:44, Alan Fregtman alan.fregt...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess it's a good thing Max is the lowest voted
I don't think Max itself can be disposed of that quickly. It's being
obviously pushed further and further into design lands leaving the
entertainment field clear for Maya, but I doubt it'll be dispatched of in
the next year or two, or even three.
I'll be hugely surprised if Mudbox and MoBu will
Maybe they're planning to migrate the rest of their dev team to Maya and
replace it with one new guy?
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Alok Gandhi alok.gandhi2...@gmail.comwrote:
I don't think Max is going anywhere. The last I heard, AD was looking for
a principal max engineer. I interviewed
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