Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-08-01 Thread Morten Bartholdy
They probably pull straws at AD every two weeks to see who has to wear that hat for a while... MB Den 31. juli 2013 kl. 04:34 skrev Raffaele Fragapane raffsxsil...@googlemail.com: K... that wasn't very long lived. Keeping up with product manager who's who for Soft these days is harder

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-08-01 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 4:21 AM, Morten Bartholdy x...@colorshopvfx.dk wrote: They probably pull straws at AD every two weeks to see who has to wear that hat for a while... it's not that bad.. as far as I know, it's just back to Cory (who took over after chinny left) full time instead of

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-08-01 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
It might help to defuse things a bit though if things were clearer, as we will tend to assume the worst if uninformed. There is some knee jerk, but from outside the view isn't quite as clear as it is from where you stand Luc-Eric. Is this a reshuffle and Daniel has just been offset elsewhere, or

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-08-01 Thread Morten Bartholdy
When Chinny was around no one here were in doubt what was going on at Softimage and who was in charge - he was very vocal and made sure we were in the loop regarding development (as far as was possible outside the company). Nowadays, we don't even know who is in charge, excepth because you tell

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-31 Thread Oliver Weingarten
This IS ridicules...what a mess!! And yes...this hand full of fixes over the past two years were not worth 1800 Euro. There would be so many things that need an upgrade... But for now there is no alternative to Soft right now. Am 31.07.2013 04:20, schrieb Luc-Eric Rousseau: On Tue, Jul 30,

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-31 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Ahmidou Lyazidi ahmidou@gmail.com wrote: Nah, maya FX! ;) hey, could you please stop posting stuff like like this? When I switched the maya team I said I joined the Maya FX team. That's the name of the team that handles simluation and nucleus, etc, like

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-31 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
This thread is a gift that keeps on giving. It's now officially got better than Dexter season 2 and is just about near catching up to Breaking Bad. If AD should take anything from it it's probably not so much the hate and the mis-trust (although there is such a thing as getting a hint :) ), it's

RE: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-31 Thread Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]
Of Sylvain Lebeau Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:20 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back! nnn … SoftiMayaMudFBXmax Sylvain Lebeau // SHED V-P/Visual effects supervisor 1410, RUE STANLEY, 11E ÉTAGE MONTRÉAL (QUÉBEC

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-31 Thread Ahmidou Lyazidi
I remember that MAYA FX was also used to define the whole simulation toolset. Anyway, I'm sorry if I hurt you,It wasn't meant to and It was definitely not directed to you or someone at all. Now to come back to Greg's feeling and about the regular AD bashing and climate on this list since the

Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Greg Punchatz
As I find out more and more about what is going on behind the scenes at at AD in regards to Softimage (plus all the others) the more and more angry I get. And frankly the more I want my support money back, seriously. This has been a huge bait and switch scam I feel like I have been

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Sebastien Sterling
... batch move to modo ? I doubt luxologic will lead us to the promised land just yet :( you are right about mudbox On 31 July 2013 00:23, Greg Punchatz g...@janimation.com wrote: As I find out more and more about what is going on behind the scenes at at AD in regards to Softimage (plus

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Greg Punchatz
I was just reading between the lines... I've read your mails and posts for years, lets just say you have a knack for foreshadowing future happenings by putting things a certain way... Like the time you wrote the post on the Softimage forum, so what if you guys finally had to bite the bullet

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Emilio Hernandez
How much money will it be needed to buy Softimage from AD? 2013/7/30 Greg Punchatz g...@janimation.com I was just reading between the lines... I've read your mails and posts for years, lets just say you have a knack for foreshadowing future happenings by putting things a certain way...

RE: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Matt Lind
Hernandez Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:35 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back! How much money will it be needed to buy Softimage from AD? 2013/7/30 Greg Punchatz g...@janimation.commailto:g...@janimation.com I was just

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Eric Thivierge
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote: Just wondering... If the people of Greenbay owns its football team... $10 million is not that much to get Softimage out of the dungeon... I think you over estimate the amount of SI users...

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back! ** ** How much money will it be needed to buy Softimage from AD? ** ** 2013/7/30 Greg Punchatz g...@janimation.com I was just reading between the lines... I've read

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Greg Punchatz
: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Emilio Hernandez Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:35 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back! How much

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Eric Thivierge
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Greg Punchatz g...@janimation.com wrote: Chris seems to be earnest in his want to create a good product for us Not to disrespect Chris but he's not a dev. He's in Q.A. AFAIK. He can want to do amazing things but I don't want to hear this stuff from him. I want

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Ahmidou Lyazidi
2013/7/31 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com Needing to compile all the plugins again in order to work with 2014sp2. Something I have never seen before in Softimage. This is untrue, you only have to do this for plugins accessing to ice attribute

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Eric Thivierge
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.comwrote: Who is that again? Can we get an email address / phone number please? To pull a Brad, I remembered Graham posted the name Chris Bradshaw the other day. If we use a bit of logic as to how most AD email addresses go,

RE: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Matt Lind
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back! Hmmm but Softimage DS came out when it was already Microsoft as I remember. Eddie was the comp from Softimage and Toonz for 2D cell animation at the moment Microsoft acquired it. Unless

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Emilio Hernandez
*This is untrue, you only have to do this for plugins accessing to ice attribute* Like render engines except MR I guess... Exocortex, Eric Mootz's, etc... I will wait and see... I hope at least this SDK changes will lead us to better and new features. One thing I can say is that at least I've

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
Chris might be a bit too high up. Soft got two new product manager/designer who have been kinda absent. Daniel Tutino replaced Cory, who was sort of temping in after Chinny... more or less, I guess. I think he did introduce himself on the list... maybe. At some point. Or it was possibly another

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Thanks for the update Matt. I bought one DS when it came out on the Intergraph platform and it was rock solid. I feel old... My first Softimage 3D workstation was a TDZ-310 with Dual Pentium Pro at 150Mhz... hahaha. State of the art machine those days. 2013/7/30 Raffaele Fragapane

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Eric Thivierge
Not sure if directed at me Raf but I did add that first bit about not to disrespect Chris I was pointing out basically what you said. He's being the most vocal when it should be someone else who is giving us most of our information. Eric Thivierge

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Raffaele Fragapane raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote: Chris might be a bit too high up. Soft got two new product manager/designer who have been kinda absent. Daniel Tutino replaced Cory, who was sort of temping in after Chinny... more or less, I guess. the

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
K... that wasn't very long lived. Keeping up with product manager who's who for Soft these days is harder than keeping up with who's who in a Greek Orgy. On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Raffaele Fragapane

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Steven Caron
wow, changed again? *written with my thumbs On Jul 30, 2013, at 7:20 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.com wrote: the Softimage product manager is Cory. Daniel no longer works for Cory

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Emilio Hernandez
*K... that wasn't very long lived. * *Keeping up with product manager who's who for Soft these days is harder than keeping up with who's who in a Greek Orgy. * Hahahaha* * 2013/7/30 Raffaele Fragapane raffsxsil...@googlemail.com K... that wasn't very long lived. Keeping up with

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Gustavo Eggert Boehs
what a mess :/

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Eric Thivierge
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.comwrote: the Softimage product manager is Cory. Daniel no longer works for Cory Oh for fucks sake! Seriously!?!?! That's it I vote for Chris Chia. Eric Thivierge

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: Originally known as ‘Softimage Digital Studio’ and started in the early 1990s for the IRIX platform (1992/1993), it was Softimage’s attempt to merge 2D and 3D into a single seamless end-to-end environment. The drive

RE: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Matt Lind
too. Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Luc-Eric Rousseau Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 7:39 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Steven Caron
i seem to remember what matt has listed, not from matt either, about microsoft wanting to take out the competing OS, irix. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.comwrote: The more common interpretation of history is that Microsoft bought Softimage because of 3D

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Sylvain Lebeau
-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Emilio Hernandez *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:35 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
@Matt: I think Soft was sold to MS for a lot less than 300. Tempted to say less than half that. Mostly I remember MS making a good profit, and I was around and not long after that joined Avid. MS - Avid is the one that scratched close to 300M I think. @Luc-Eric Matt has better memory than you in

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Emilio Hernandez
*The more common interpretation of history is that Microsoft bought Softimage because of 3D and film VFX was cool and they were hoping the Hollywood glamour would rub on them. * This is more the story I know. So they develop with Intergraph the first NT based workstation with Open GL for 3D,

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Sylvain Lebeau
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Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
You mean Bifrost? :p On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Sylvain Lebeau s...@shedmtl.com wrote: fun facts folks….i admit…. how about what's comming up next?….

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Ahmidou Lyazidi
Nah, maya FX! ;) --- Ahmidou Lyazidi Director | TD | CG artist http://vimeo.com/ahmidou/videos http://www.cappuccino-films.com 2013/7/31 Raffaele Fragapane raffsxsil...@googlemail.com You mean Bifrost? :p On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Sylvain

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2013-07-30 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Softimaya... 2013/7/30 Ahmidou Lyazidi ahmidou@gmail.com Nah, maya FX! ;) --- Ahmidou Lyazidi Director | TD | CG artist http://vimeo.com/ahmidou/videos http://www.cappuccino-films.com 2013/7/31 Raffaele Fragapane

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Sylvain Lebeau
nnn … SoftiMayaMudFBXmax Sylvain Lebeau // SHED V-P/Visual effects supervisor 1410, RUE STANLEY, 11E ÉTAGE MONTRÉAL (QUÉBEC) H3A 1P8 T 514 849-1555 F 514 849-5025 WWW.SHEDMTL.COM (http://www.shedmtl.com/) http://WWW.SHEDMTL.COM (http://www.shedmtl.com/) On Wednesday, 31 July, 2013 at

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Gustavo Eggert Boehs
...MoBuCad123456d? 2013/7/31 Sylvain Lebeau s...@shedmtl.com nnn … SoftiMayaMudFBXmax *Sylvain Lebeau // SHED** *V-P/Visual effects supervisor 1410, RUE STANLEY, 11E ÉTAGE MONTRÉAL (QUÉBEC) H3A 1P8 T 514 849-1555 F 514 849-5025 WWW.SHEDMTL.COM http://www.shedmtl.com/

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Gustavo Eggert Boehs
oh yeah 360cloudadvantagepack, almost forgot :D 2013/7/31 Gustavo Eggert Boehs gustav...@gmail.com ...MoBuCad123456d? 2013/7/31 Sylvain Lebeau s...@shedmtl.com nnn … SoftiMayaMudFBXmax *Sylvain Lebeau // SHED** *V-P/Visual effects supervisor 1410, RUE STANLEY, 11E ÉTAGE MONTRÉAL

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Sylvain Lebeau
A common gang….. am i the only one that think's we need to reset the whole thing? … Softimage had a 2 gigs maximum size for a scene……. it is now 4 gigs…… and we've already hit that mark here…… giga polygon core? .. Is this next gen? p Sylvain Lebeau // SHED V-P/Visual

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Emilio Hernandez
So let's call it The Sausage 3D. 2013/7/30 Sylvain Lebeau s...@shedmtl.com A common gang….. am i the only one that think's we need to reset the whole thing? … Softimage had a 2 gigs maximum size for a scene……. it is now 4 gigs…… and we've already hit that mark here…… giga polygon

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Sylvain Lebeau
hmmm il like sausages …… with hot mustard!! :-) Sylvain Lebeau // SHED V-P/Visual effects supervisor 1410, RUE STANLEY, 11E ÉTAGE MONTRÉAL (QUÉBEC) H3A 1P8 T 514 849-1555 F 514 849-5025 WWW.SHEDMTL.COM (http://www.shedmtl.com/) http://WWW.SHEDMTL.COM (http://www.shedmtl.com/) On

RE: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Angus Davidson
...@shedmtl.com] Sent: 31 July 2013 04:57 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back! cough you remember me with my past rants i am sure. I've tried to calm down... Just bought 5 more Softimage seats today. Growing

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back! cough you remember me with my past rants i am sure. I've tried to calm down... Just bought 5 more Softimage seats today. Growing the user base is the best thing

Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my money back!

2013-07-30 Thread Ludovick Michaud
For those really wondering Microsoft bought Softimage in 1994 from Daniel Langlois for $130 mil Then Avid bought Softimage in 1998 from Microsoft for $285 mil Finally Autodesk bought Softimage in 2008 from Avid for $35 mil (the 3D part only) With that in mind. Microsoft primary goals where to