all,
we're working on many interrelated problems:
1. DS-lite with A+P (SMAP)
2. Provisioning of IPv4 over DS-lite (4over6)
3. Stateless IPv4 address sharing over IPv6 (4rd, dIVI)
4. Stateless IPv4 over IPv6 tunneling (SA46)
given that the main focus of the interim is 3. let me propose an
Ole, all,
New agenda looks fine, with some comments and suggestions below.
|-Original Message-
|From: Ole Troan [mailto:otr...@employees.org]
|Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 3:28 PM
|To: Yong Cui; Alain Durand
|Cc: softwires@ietf.org; liziye
|Subject: Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim
Ole,
Thank you. I don't worry.
And thank you for the question.
In past experiments, SA46T prefix is assigned from native IPv6 address.
SA46T-AS prefix is the same.
If using SA46T or SA46T-AS in a AS(Provider) closely, SA46T prefix and SA46T-AS
prefix does not advertise outside AS, so any
All,
Ole's agenda is a big improvement, as in it addresses the concerns I (and
others voiced) in the past weeks. That said, to make the proceedings follow
a more structured Introduction; Requirements; Details, sequence, I would
like to propose the following (changes in the order of things
Ole's agenda is a big improvement, as in it addresses the concerns I (and
others voiced) in the past weeks. That said, to make the proceedings follow a
more structured Introduction; Requirements; Details, sequence, I would like
to propose the following (changes in the order of things
On 2011/09/25, at 22:29, Hui Deng wrote:
I agree this proposal to make this meeting has more clear target other than
scattered
just remind that there is orginal proposal about 4v6 translation
1. 4via6 Stateless Translation
On 2011/09/25, at 22:11, Ole Troan wrote:
Ole's agenda is a big improvement, as in it addresses the concerns I (and
others voiced) in the past weeks. That said, to make the proceedings follow
a more structured Introduction; Requirements; Details, sequence, I would
like to propose the
Hi all,
Woj's proposal on the agenda looks good. I share the same view with Hui that
4v6 translation and Prefix delegation in 4v6 belong to Section 3
Stateless solutions and mechanisms
Regards,
Tao
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Satoru Matsushima
satoru.matsush...@gmail.com wrote:
On
On 2011/09/25, at 7:36, Satoru Matsushima wrote:
On 2011/09/25, at 22:11, Ole Troan wrote:
Ole's agenda is a big improvement, as in it addresses the concerns I (and
others voiced) in the past weeks. That said, to make the proceedings follow
a more structured Introduction; Requirements;
Softwire Interim Meeting, 2011.9.26-27
Meeting venue, contact info, Agenda
MEETING VENUE
FIT Building, which is the first left building inside the East Gate of
Tsinghua University
Registration: West Lobby of FIT building during Monday morning 8:30~9:30am
Hello Chairs,
I fully agree with Dan's proposal for bashing interim meeting agenda on
the following two regards, and thereby raising 3 questions towards
current agenda somewhere where against these two regards.
Regard 1: Promote stuffs that we can make educated and informed
decisions.
Q1: Why
Dear Chairs,
As one people who has been working on the comparision between encapsulation
and translation for some time.
I would like to request a time slot to present our analysis.
Thanks for your consideration
-Hui
2011/9/8 Alain Durand adur...@juniper.net
Softwire interim meeting
Ok, please send slides before Sunday night.
Alain
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 22, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Xing Li x...@cernet.edu.cn wrote:
Dear Chairs,
We would also like to present the operational requiements and the
experience of the single and dual stateless translation concerning
CERNET
Hello Chairs,
I fully agree with Dan's proposal for bashing interim meeting agenda on
the following two regards, and thereby raising 3 questions towards
current agenda somewhere where against these two regards.
Regard 1: Promote stuffs that we can make educated and informed
decisions.
Q1: Why
Hello Alain,
I have some concerns regarding the proposed agenda: There appear to be two
major classes of topics to be discussed A) The translate/encap approaches B)
The details of indexing algorithms, mapping, etc. Item B) deals in very
specific technical details - many of which we likely will
: Yong Cui; softwires@ietf.org; liziye; iesg-secret...@ietf.org;
Ralph Droms
(rdroms)
Subject: RE: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting in Beijing
It doesn't, IMO. In fact, I beg to say that it is unfair mention
'tunneling vs
translating' as a blanket statement, since we have known all along
Droms
(rdroms)
Subject: Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting in Beijing
We mentioned 'tunneling vs translating'. This should cover it.
Alain.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
raj...@cisco.com
wrote:
Yong,
Why is dIVI not included
] Softwire Interim Meeting in Beijing
So far, I'd like the focus to be on stateless. We will see by the end of the
week (end of the call for presentation) if we have time for multicast.
Alain.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 22, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Greg Shepherd gjs...@gmail.com wrote
: softwires-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:softwires-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf
Of Alain Durand
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 11:40 PM
To: gjs...@gmail.com
Cc: liziye; Ralph Droms (rdroms); Yong Cui; iesg-secret...@ietf.org;
softwires@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting in Beijing
So far
: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting in Beijing
It doesn't, IMO. In fact, I beg to say that it is unfair mention
'tunneling vs translating' as a blanket statement, since we have known
all along that a sane 4v6 solution would likely involve translating
(44), no matter what.
Moreover, it is reasonable
Dear Chairs,
I suggest including draft-murakami-softwire-4v6-translation-00 into
the agenda as well.
We already had a presentation in last softwire meeting. It's
reasonable to continue the discussion in the interim meeting
Many thanks
Gang
2011/8/19, Yong Cui cuiy...@tsinghua.edu.cn:
Hi
Are there any plans to discuss solutions for multicast at the interim meeting?
Thanks,
Greg
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 3:57 AM, GangChen phdg...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Chairs,
I suggest including draft-murakami-softwire-4v6-translation-00 into
the agenda as well.
We already had a presentation
Thanks. I won't add to the agenda. The first pass had mcast on the
list so I carved out time to be there. If it comes up I will attend.
Or I suppose more to the point, if you don't want me there keep mcast
off of the agenda. :)
Cheers,
Greg
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Alain Durand
Durand
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 11:40 PM
To: gjs...@gmail.com
Cc: liziye; Ralph Droms (rdroms); Yong Cui; iesg-secret...@ietf.org;
softwires@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting in Beijing
So far, I'd like the focus to be on stateless. We will see by the end of the
week
Hi folks,
We, softwire wg chairs, in agreement with our ADs, are announcing
an interim meeting in Beijing on September 26 27. The date has
been chosen adjacent to the BBF meeting in Shangai to minimize
travel and visa issues.
The interim meeting will focus on 'stateless' solutions in general
Yong,
Why is dIVI not included In the discussion ?
Could you please clarify?
Cheers,
Rajiv
Sent from Phone
On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:10 AM, Yong Cui cuiy...@tsinghua.edu.cn wrote:
Hi folks,
We, softwire wg chairs, in agreement with our ADs, are announcing
an interim meeting in Beijing
To: Yong Cui cuiy...@tsinghua.edu.cn
Cc: softwires@ietf.org, liziye liz...@csnet1.cs.tsinghua.edu.cn, Yong
Cui cuiy...@tsinghua.edu.cn, iesg-secret...@ietf.org, Ralph Droms
(rdroms) rdr...@cisco.com
Subject: Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting in Beijing
Yong,
Why is dIVI not included
于 2011/8/19 21:03, Rémi Després 写道:
Yong, Rajiv,
Le 19 août 2011 à 14:16, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) a écrit :
Yong,
Why is dIVI not included In the discussion ?
In my understanding, differences between dIVI and the proposal of
draft-murakami-softwire-4v6-translation-00 are minimal.
They both
We mentioned 'tunneling vs translating'. This should cover it.
Alain.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) raj...@cisco.com wrote:
Yong,
Why is dIVI not included In the discussion ?
Could you please clarify?
Cheers,
Rajiv
Sent from Phone
On
: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting in Beijing
We mentioned 'tunneling vs translating'. This should cover it.
Alain.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) raj...@cisco.com
wrote:
Yong,
Why is dIVI not included In the discussion ?
Could you please clarify
@ietf.org; liziye; iesg-secret...@ietf.org;
Ralph Droms
(rdroms)
Subject: Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting in Beijing
We mentioned 'tunneling vs translating'. This should cover it.
Alain.
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) raj...@cisco.com
Le 17 août 2011 à 10:08, Ole Troan a écrit :
...
Yong and I would like to make a decision soon, please send us email directly
if you intend to come and tell us which set of dates is more convenient.
Please respond by August 11th, we will formally announce the meeting with
the logistic
On 2011-08-17 04:08, Ole Troan wrote:
it would be good to have at least 4 weeks notice for travel arrangements to
be made.
Not only would it be good, it is required.
http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/interim-meetings.html
If we are to meet on September 15-16, the meeting must be announced
a real life meeting to hash out the stateless solutions is a splendid idea.
But an expensive one too!
Since the announced deadline for practical organization has already been
passed, I personally believe that a better approach is to get enough Softwire
time in Taipei for enough WG work.
+1
Hi Alain,
Can we assume that this meeting will not happen as I see no formal
announcement?
Regards,
Behcet
Following-up on the Quebec meeting, we would like to organize an interim
meeting
end of September.
We will focus on so-called stateless solutions and other remaining business
On Aug 5, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Alain Durand wrote:
Following-up on the Quebec meeting, we would like to organize an interim
meeting end of September.
We will focus on so-called stateless solutions and other remaining business
in the wg (multicast. mibs,...)
that require more time
于 2011/8/11 2:37, Behcet Sarikaya 写道:
On Aug 5, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Alain Durand wrote:
Following-up on the Quebec meeting, we would like to organize an interim
meeting end of September.
We will focus on so-called stateless solutions and other remaining business
in the wg (multicast.
Of Peng Wu
Sent: lunedì 8 agosto 2011 8.32
To: xiaohong.d...@orange-ftgroup.com; adur...@juniper.net; m...@townsley.net
Cc: softwires; rdroms
Subject: Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim meeting
In my experience, the crowdness of Golden Week begins at 29-30th. So unless
you have trips plans after
Subject：Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim meeting
Either Shanghai or Beijing will do. Just some pieces of info:
Autumn is definitely the best season in Beijing! With fabulous views
and weather! ;) And there is a high speed railway between Shanghai and
Beijing, costing 60 Euros approximately. Please also
I am speaking for myself. It will be tough for me to go to China in Sept
and Taiwan in Nov.
On 8/5/11 3:57 PM, Mark Townsley m...@townsley.net wrote:
On Aug 5, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Alain Durand wrote:
Following-up on the Quebec meeting, we would like to organize an
interim meeting end of
-Original Message-
From: softwires-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:softwires-boun...@ietf.org] On
Behalf Of Alain Durand
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 3:39 AM
To: softwires@ietf.org list
Cc: Ralph Droms
Subject: [Softwires] Softwire Interim meeting
Following-up on the Quebec meeting, we
06, 2011 3:39 AM
To: softwires@ietf.org list
Cc: Ralph Droms
Subject: [Softwires] Softwire Interim meeting
Following-up on the Quebec meeting, we would like to organize an
interim meeting end of September.
We will focus on so-called stateless solutions and other remaining
business in the wg
BTW, the high speed railway between Shanghai and Beijing takes 4 hours.
|-Original Message-
|From: DENG Xiaohong ESP/PEK
|Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 11:50 AM
|To: Alain Durand; 'Mark Townsley'
|Cc: softwires@ietf.org list; Ralph Droms
|Subject: RE: [Softwires] Softwire Interim
Following-up on the Quebec meeting, we would like to organize an interim
meeting end of September.
We will focus on so-called stateless solutions and other remaining business in
the wg (multicast. mibs,...)
that require more time than we usually have during a normal IETF meeting.
The format will
On Aug 5, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Alain Durand wrote:
Following-up on the Quebec meeting, we would like to organize an interim
meeting end of September.
We will focus on so-called stateless solutions and other remaining business
in the wg (multicast. mibs,...)
that require more time than we
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