Re: [Softwires] Analysis of Port Indexing Algorithms (draft-bsd-softwire-stateless-port-index-analysis)

2011-09-07 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Satoru, What I have done is I clarified the text as follows: o Complexity: Reflects the complexity level of understanding the algorithm and the expected complexity to configure an implementation. Is this fine or you think we need to elaborate further? Cheers, Med

Re: [Softwires] Analysis of Port Indexing Algorithms (draft-bsd-softwire-stateless-port-index-analysis)

2011-09-07 Thread Jacni Qin
Hi Med, More inline please, On 9/7/2011 1:22 PM, mohamed.boucad...@orange-ftgroup.com wrote: *) Is the focus of the document (properties used) on the whole address architecture/format, or just on the algorithms to build port sets? As in some proposals, for example 4rd, the port indexing

Re: [Softwires] Analysis of Port Indexing Algorithms (draft-bsd-softwire-stateless-port-index-analysis)

2011-09-07 Thread Tetsuya Murakami
Hi Mohamed, I am a developer of 4rd which is used by Nejc. From my perspective, the complexity is not coming from the algorithm itself but I think the complex is depend on the implementation as well. So, I don't think it is good to make a conclusion with a given implementation only. In fact, I

Re: [Softwires] Analysis of Port Indexing Algorithms (draft-bsd-softwire-stateless-port-index-analysis)

2011-09-07 Thread Rémi Després
Le 7 sept. 2011 à 09:55, Satoru Matsushima a écrit : ... And from my experience, none of configuration complexity for 4rd implementations. These don't require any complicated configuration to generate port-set from port-set ID. +1 (in addition to my personal comments) RD

Re: [Softwires] Analysis of Port Indexing Algorithms (draft-bsd-softwire-stateless-port-index-analysis)

2011-09-07 Thread Rémi Després
Med, More comments in line. Le 7 sept. 2011 à 07:35, mohamed.boucad...@orange-ftgroup.com mohamed.boucad...@orange-ftgroup.com a écrit : Dear Gang, As per the following property: o Complexity: Complexity level of the algorithm I agree this can be split into several sub items but in

Re: [Softwires] Analysis of Port Indexing Algorithms (draft-bsd-softwire-stateless-port-index-analysis)

2011-09-07 Thread Rémi Després
Hi Med, Thank you for the detailed analysis of our draft. Please see some first comments in line. Le 7 sept. 2011 à 07:22, mohamed.boucad...@orange-ftgroup.com mohamed.boucad...@orange-ftgroup.com a écrit : Hi Jacni, Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Jacni Qin

Re: [Softwires] draft-murakami-softwire-4v6-translation

2011-09-07 Thread Rémi Després
Le 22 août 2011 à 19:41, Cameron Byrne a écrit : 2011/8/22 Nejc Škoberne n...@skoberne.net: Dear Cameron, some pressure. IMHO, i believe that static over-subscription ratios required by A+P will not meaningfully keep pace with the rapid growth in the number of internet nodes. I would

Re: [Softwires] Analysis of Port Indexing Algorithms (draft-bsd-softwire-stateless-port-index-analysis)

2011-09-07 Thread Rémi Després
Oops, e) to be deleted from the list below (same feature as c)) Le 7 sept. 2011 à 11:02, Rémi Després a écrit : Hi Med, Thank you for the detailed analysis of our draft. Please see some first comments in line. Le 7 sept. 2011 à 07:22, mohamed.boucad...@orange-ftgroup.com

[Softwires] Requirements for extending IPv6 addresses with port range (draft-boucadair-softwire-stateless-rfc6052-update)

2011-09-07 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear all, We submitted a new I-D identifying the requirements to be met when designing the format of IPv4-embedded IPv6 addresses/prefixes enclosing the port information. The first list of requirements is available at:

Re: [Softwires] Analysis of Port Indexing Algorithms (draft-bsd-softwire-stateless-port-index-analysis)

2011-09-07 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Jacni Qin [mailto:ja...@jacni.com] Envoyé : mercredi 7 septembre 2011 10:12 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/NAD/TIP Cc : Wojciech Dec; softwires@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Softwires] Analysis of Port Indexing Algorithms

Re: [Softwires] Call for presentations for the interim meeting

2011-09-07 Thread Yong Cui
Thanks so much, Dan. Hope you can join the interim meeting. Yong -Original Message- From: Dan Wing dw...@cisco.com Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 16:37:19 -0700 To: 'Alain Durand' adur...@juniper.net, softwires@ietf.org, Yong Cui cuiy...@tsinghua.edu.cn Subject: RE: [Softwires] Call for

Re: [Softwires] Analysis of Port Indexing Algorithms (draft-bsd-softwire-stateless-port-index-analysis)

2011-09-07 Thread Simon Perreault
mohamed.boucad...@orange-ftgroup.com wrote, on 09/07/2011 03:28 AM: What I have done is I clarified the text as follows: o Complexity: Reflects the complexity level of understanding the algorithm and the expected complexity to configure an implementation. A subjective

Re: [Softwires] Requirements for extending IPv6 addresses with port range (draft-boucadair-softwire-stateless-rfc6052-update)

2011-09-07 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Maoke, Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Maoke [mailto:fib...@gmail.com] Envoyé : mercredi 7 septembre 2011 15:43 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/NAD/TIP Objet : Re: [Softwires] Requirements for extending IPv6 addresses with port range

[Softwires] Use cases of the Domain IPv6 suffix of the 4rd address mapping

2011-09-07 Thread Rémi Després
Hi Satoru-san, Tetsuya-san, As you have seen, I-D.despres-4rd-addmapping includes for the first time an explanation about use cases of the Domain IPv6 suffix (sec 5.5 titled The CPE cascade option). As originators of the need for this option, could you please check what is written and tell

Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting in Beijing

2011-09-07 Thread Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
Alain, The agenda for the interim meeting contradicts what was said during the IETF81 v6ops (thanks to the recording (.mp3 url) and corresponding transcript below), so I would appreciate any clarity you could provide. With such a narrow-defined agenda, which doesn't allow discussion, analysis,

Re: [Softwires] Comments on draft-qin-softwire-dslite-multicast-04

2011-09-07 Thread Tina TSOU
Hi Med, In line with [TT2]... Best Regards, Tina From: mohamed.boucad...@orange-ftgroup.com [mailto:mohamed.boucad...@orange-ftgroup.com] Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:06 AM To: Tina TSOU; Jacni Qin Cc: softwires@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Softwires] Comments on

Re: [Softwires] Comments on section 6.3 of draft-qin-softwire-dslite-multicast-04

2011-09-07 Thread Tina TSOU
Yiu, Thank you for your good comments, even in the hurricane. I am proposing modify the texts in the document to be more accurate since PMTU is unable to avoid fragmentation here. Cache in mAFTR maybe one possible way, but I agree that it is more complicated. For the time being, there are two

Re: [Softwires] Comments on section 6.3 of draft-qin-softwire-dslite-multicast-04

2011-09-07 Thread Tina TSOU
Hi Yiu, Thank you for your prompt reply. I am not saying the multicast path must be consistent with unicast path. I was trying to explain that PMTU is not a good way to avoid fragmentation in this scenario. Anyway, my proposal to the draft is to delete the texts after or in section 6.3.

[Softwires] [Softwires​] draft-xli-​behave-div​i-pd

2011-09-07 Thread joy chow
In the appendix we use v and h represent the IPv4 subnet (hex) and host index (hex). The length of v is (s), and the length of h is (k) as shwon in Figure 2. Could you kindly elaborate that more? How could a specific IPv4-translatable address be derived? I can't fully follow the algorithm. It

[Softwires] Fwd: v6ops - ietf81 recording

2011-09-07 Thread Fred Baker
Alain: I have a question. In your recent note to softwire, you seem to be changing the charter that you and Jari stated in v6ops at IETF-81. At IETF-81, you stated that there was no need for a translation-related working group because translation (specifically the dIVI proposal, but more

Re: [Softwires] v6ops - ietf81 recording

2011-09-07 Thread Alain Durand
Fred: The way I phrased the call for the interim meeting on the mailling list might have created some unwanted confusion. Yong and I are going to publish the agenda for the interim meeting very soon. There will be ample time to discuss the various propositions on the table in the 'stateless'

Re: [Softwires] v6ops - ietf81 recording

2011-09-07 Thread Fred Baker
On Sep 7, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Alain Durand wrote: Fred: The way I phrased the call for the interim meeting on the mailling list might have created some unwanted confusion. Yong and I are going to publish the agenda for the interim meeting very soon. There will be ample time to discuss

Re: [Softwires] Softwire Interim Meeting in Beijing

2011-09-07 Thread Alain Durand
I hope the agenda I just published will clear things up. - Alain On Sep 7, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) wrote: Alain, The agenda for the interim meeting contradicts what was said during the IETF81 v6ops (thanks to the recording (.mp3 url) and corresponding transcript

Re: [Softwires] Use cases of the Domain IPv6 suffix of the 4rd address mapping

2011-09-07 Thread Jacni Qin
Re-, On 9/7/2011 11:03 PM, Rémi Després wrote: Hi Satoru-san, Tetsuya-san, As you have seen, I-D.despres-4rd-addmapping includes for the first time an explanation about use cases of the Domain IPv6 suffix (sec 5.5 titled The CPE cascade option). As originators of the need for this option,