Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-03-01 Thread liu dapeng
2012/2/29, Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net: Le 2012-02-29 à 10:53, liu dapeng a écrit : 2012/2/28, Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net: 2012-02-28 15:06, liu dapeng : ... 2012/2/27, Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net: ... The draft only reflects the wish of an number of

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-29 Thread liu dapeng
2012/2/28, Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net: 2012-02-28 15:06, liu dapeng : ... 2012/2/27, Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net: ... The draft only reflects the wish of an number of operators to have a stateless solution standardized, acknowledging that this is in addition to the

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-29 Thread Rémi Després
Le 2012-02-29 à 10:53, liu dapeng a écrit : 2012/2/28, Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net: 2012-02-28 15:06, liu dapeng : ... 2012/2/27, Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net: ... The draft only reflects the wish of an number of operators to have a stateless solution standardized,

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-28 Thread liu dapeng
. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : francis.dup...@fdupont.fr [mailto:francis.dup...@fdupont.fr] Envoyé : samedi 11 février 2012 09:30 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/NAD/TIP Cc : softwires@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation In your

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-28 Thread Tom Taylor
The fundamental issue is total cost to the operator. Different operators have different cost structures, hence need different engineering solutions. This isn't a matter of using precise language -- stateless is a term of convenience fitting the perceptions of the particular group of persons

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-28 Thread Rémi Després
2012-02-28 15:06, liu dapeng : ... 2012/2/27, Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net: ... The draft only reflects the wish of an number of operators to have a stateless solution standardized, acknowledging that this is in addition to the more advanced stateful solutions (it doesn't even

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-27 Thread Rémi Després
: liu dapeng [mailto:maxpass...@gmail.com] Envoyé : jeudi 23 février 2012 12:04 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/NAD/TIP Cc : Softwire Chairs; softwires@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation Hi Med, I think it is still not clear about

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-27 Thread liu dapeng
Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : liu dapeng [mailto:maxpass...@gmail.com] Envoyé : jeudi 23 février 2012 12:04 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/NAD/TIP Cc : Softwire Chairs; softwires@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation Hi Med

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-27 Thread Rémi Després
LC? Thanks. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : francis.dup...@fdupont.fr [mailto:francis.dup...@fdupont.fr] Envoyé : samedi 11 février 2012 09:30 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/NAD/TIP Cc : softwires@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-27 Thread Cameron Byrne
Chairs; softwires@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation Hi Med, I think it is still not clear about the definition of stateless, in current draft, it says: stateless denotes a solution which does not require any per-user state (see

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-24 Thread liu dapeng
Objet : Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation In your previous mail you wrote: (1) Either issue a WG LC, or +1 francis.dup...@fdupont.fr ___ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-23 Thread Leaf yeh
: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:04 PM To: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com Cc: softwires@ietf.org; Softwire Chairs Subject: Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation Hi Med, I think it is still not clear about the definition of stateless, in current draft, it says: stateless

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-23 Thread Cameron Byrne
draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation In your previous mail you wrote: (1) Either issue a WG LC, or +1 francis.dup...@fdupont.fr ___ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-20 Thread mohamed.boucadair
- De : francis.dup...@fdupont.fr [mailto:francis.dup...@fdupont.fr] Envoyé : samedi 11 février 2012 09:30 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/NAD/TIP Cc : softwires@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation In your previous mail you wrote: (1

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-13 Thread mohamed.boucadair
] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation On Feb 10, 2012 2:20 AM, mohamed.boucad...@orange.commailto:mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: Dear WG members, I would like to close this document so that we can meet the following item from the WG Charter: 4. Developments for stateless

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-13 Thread liu dapeng
2012/2/13, Ole Trøan otr...@employees.org: Cameron, RFC1958 gives the fundamental principles. search for state. Yes. But do you think it is achievable for pure stateless? BR, Dapeng cheers, Ole On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:02 , Cameron Byrne wrote: On Feb 12, 2012 7:14 PM, Satoru Matsushima

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-12 Thread liu dapeng
2012/2/11, Cameron Byrne cb.li...@gmail.com: On Feb 10, 2012 2:20 AM, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: Dear WG members, I would like to close this document so that we can meet the following item from the WG Charter: 4. Developments for stateless legacy IPv4 carried over IPv6 -

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-11 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: (1) Either issue a WG LC, or +1 francis.dup...@fdupont.fr ___ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-11 Thread Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
+1 Cheers, Rajiv Sent from my Phone On Feb 11, 2012, at 3:30 AM, Francis Dupont francis.dup...@fdupont.fr wrote: In your previous mail you wrote: (1) Either issue a WG LC, or +1 francis.dup...@fdupont.fr ___ Softwires mailing list

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-11 Thread Rémi Després
Le 2012-02-11 à 12:43, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) a écrit : +1 +1 RD Cheers, Rajiv Sent from my Phone On Feb 11, 2012, at 3:30 AM, Francis Dupont francis.dup...@fdupont.fr wrote: In your previous mail you wrote: (1) Either issue a WG LC, or +1 francis.dup...@fdupont.fr

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-11 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Feb 10, 2012 2:20 AM, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: Dear WG members, I would like to close this document so that we can meet the following item from the WG Charter: 4. Developments for stateless legacy IPv4 carried over IPv6 - develop a solution motivation document to be

Re: [Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-11 Thread Rémi Després
Le 2012-02-11 à 15:30, Cameron Byrne a écrit : On Feb 10, 2012 2:20 AM, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: Dear WG members, I would like to close this document so that we can meet the following item from the WG Charter: 4. Developments for stateless legacy IPv4 carried over

[Softwires] Closing draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation

2012-02-10 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear WG members, I would like to close this document so that we can meet the following item from the WG Charter: 4. Developments for stateless legacy IPv4 carried over IPv6 - develop a solution motivation document to be published as an RFC - develop a protocol specification response to the