2012/2/13, Ole Trøan <otr...@employees.org>: > Cameron, > > RFC1958 gives the fundamental principles. search for "state".
Yes. But do you think it is achievable for "pure stateless"? BR, Dapeng > cheers, > Ole > > > On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:02 , Cameron Byrne wrote: > >> >> On Feb 12, 2012 7:14 PM, "Satoru Matsushima" <satoru.matsush...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > On 2012/02/11, at 15:30, Cameron Byrne wrote: >> > >> > --snip-- >> > > >> > > I find this omission disappointing. There is a common assumption that >> > > stateless is superior to stateful, but it is not quantified anywhere. >> > > >> > > It seems all this stateless work hinges on this assumption without any >> > > quantification. >> > > >> > > Honestly, the omission makes me believe the case of stateless being >> > > superior is dubious. >> > > >> > > Cb >> > >> > Do you think that it is productive productive analysis that comparison >> > of stateless between stateful? Current motivation draft stands not to >> > beat other solutions, it stands for justifying to start stateless >> > solution work on the WG so some proponents of stateless solution took a >> > pen. My question is that if the comparison is productive for something, >> > who should work for it, and who should read it. >> > >> >> I assumed this explanation and comparison would be easy for the stateless >> experts. I looked to this as a learning opportunity for me. >> >> I agree with you and RD, there are many good solutions that fit this >> problem space and I do not intend to slow progress. >> >> If it is difficult and the differences in merit cannot be easily >> quantified between stateful and stateless , I accept that as an answer. >> >> I suggested they be compared since opposites frequently help define each >> other. Black helps define white just as cold helps define hot. I had >> assumed this was true for this case as well. Perhaps I was wrong. >> >> Thanks again for your contribution. >> >> Cb >> >> > cheers, >> > --satoru >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Softwires mailing list >> Softwires@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires > > _______________________________________________ > Softwires mailing list > Softwires@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires > -- ------ Best Regards, Dapeng Liu _______________________________________________ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires
