On Feb 23, 2012 8:10 AM, "Cameron Byrne" <cb.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2012 5:05 AM, "Rémi Després" <despres.r...@laposte.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Le 2012-02-23 à 12:03, liu dapeng a écrit :
> >
> > > Hi Med,
> > >
> > > I think it is still not clear about the definition of "stateless", in
> > > current draft, it says:
> > >
> > > stateless denotes a solution which does not require any per-user state
> > > (see Section
> > > 2.3 of [RFC1958]) to be maintained by any IP address sharing
> > > function in the Service Provider's network.
> > >
> > > But all the candidate solutions: MAP-T/MAP-E/4rd-U all need to maitain
> > > state in CPE.
> >
> > Hi Liu,
> >
> > Even in mesh topologies, these solutions don't require CPEs to maintain
states about other CPEs to communicate directly with them.
> > In this sense, they are stateless, including with the given definition.
> > OK?
> >
>
> Correct me if I am wrong, but at leas map-t requires stateful nat44 at
the cpe
>

Never mind. Please excuse me not reading enough about the definition
before sending.

Cb
> Cb
>
> > regards,
> > RD
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > It is obviously contradictory with this definition. We
> > > need more discussion regarding the definition of "stateless".
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > Dapeng Liu
> > >
> > > 2012/2/20, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com <mohamed.boucad...@orange.com
>:
> > >> Dear chairs, WG members,
> > >>
> > >> The answers received so far are in favour of initiating a WG LC on
this
> > >> document.
> > >>
> > >> As an editor of the document, I would like to progress this document
for the
> > >> next IETF meeting. Chairs, could you please issue the WG LC? Thanks.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Med
> > >>
> > >>> -----Message d'origine-----
> > >>> De : francis.dup...@fdupont.fr [mailto:francis.dup...@fdupont.fr]
> > >>> Envoyé : samedi 11 février 2012 09:30
> > >>> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/NAD/TIP
> > >>> Cc : softwires@ietf.org
> > >>> Objet : Re: [Softwires] Closing
> > >>> draft-ietf-softwire-stateless-4v6-motivation
> > >>>
> > >>> In your previous mail you wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> (1) Either issue a WG LC, or
> > >>>
> > >>> +1
> > >>>
> > >>> francis.dup...@fdupont.fr
> > >>>
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> > > --
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> > > ------
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Dapeng Liu
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