Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-22 Thread Lee, Yiu
Hi Med, See comments inline: Med: This is why I asked for a big picture view rather than a single solution. Please refer to my previous messages, I included links to http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-miles-behave-l2nat-00 or http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-arkko-dual-stack-extra-lite-00 for

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-19 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Yiu, Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : Lee, Yiu [mailto:yiu_...@cable.comcast.com] Envoyé : mardi 18 mai 2010 21:58 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed NCPI/NAD/TIP; Sri Gundavelli Cc : softwires@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item? Hi Med

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-19 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Hi Yiu, Hi Ahmad, I am not a MIP expert. Please forgive me if I am wrong. This draft merely specifies that the gateway is the B4 element and describes how a CID can be constructed to tunnel the packets to AFTR. That's it. The draft didn't alter the MH. If the MH decides to use CMIP,

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-18 Thread mohamed.boucadair
[mailto:yiu_...@cable.comcast.com] Envoyé : mardi 18 mai 2010 03:07 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed NCPI/NAD/TIP; Sri Gundavelli Cc : softwires@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item? Hi Med, Med: If the network is IPv6-only (likely the major base of UEs would be IPv6-enabled, right

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-18 Thread Ahmad Muhanna
Hi Yiu, -Original Message- Since Sri is one of the author of RFC5213, I will let him explain the details. [Ahmad] Good idea. Thanks! Cheers, Yiu ___ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-14 Thread Olaf.Bonness
Hi folks, just a minor non-technical remark. We all know that there are lots of mobile operators out there, each with a special network infrastructure and a special IPv6 integration/migration strategy. From that perspective it seems logical that we will never find the global-galatctical all

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-14 Thread Olaf.Bonness
] Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Mai 2010 14:45 An: Bonneß, Olaf; mohamed.boucad...@orange-ftgroup.com Cc: softwires@ietf.org Betreff: RE: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item? Hi Olaf, Please see inline. -Original Message- From: softwires-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:softwires-boun

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-12 Thread mohamed.boucadair
: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item? Hi Mohamed: Sorry for the late response. We were not inclined to take the draft adoption call to a discussion thread and hence the silence. Please see below. You asked number of questions and all of those points were analyzed during the IPv6 migration

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-12 Thread Sri Gundavelli
Hi Mohamed, Please see inline. Med: Since the request come from 3GPP, the applicability of the solution SHOULD NOT be beyond that scope. Furthermore, the draft should at least provide a background on the main recommendations of 3GPP SI: DS and IPv6-only and that the proposal can be used

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-12 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, Please see inline. Cheers; Med -Message d'origine- De : Sri Gundavelli [mailto:sgund...@cisco.com] Envoyé : mercredi 12 mai 2010 09:12 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed NCPI/NAD/TIP Cc : softwires@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item? Hi Mohamed, Please see

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-11 Thread Ahmad Muhanna
Hi Behcet, Please see inline. Regards, Ahmad - Original Message From: Ahmad Muhanna ahmad.muha...@ericsson.com To: Alain Durand adur...@juniper.net Cc: softwires@ietf.org softwires@ietf.org Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:49:07 AM Subject: Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-11 Thread Sri Gundavelli
@ietf.org; BINET David NCPI/NAD/TIP Subject: Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item? Hi Joel, On 5/11/10 3:25 PM, Joel M. Halpern j...@joelhalpern.com wrote: I am somewhat confused by this description. You seem to be saying that the primary need for gi-ds-lite is mobile

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-11 Thread Ahmad Muhanna
: Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item? Hi Joel, On 5/11/10 3:25 PM, Joel M. Halpern j...@joelhalpern.com wrote: I am somewhat confused by this description. You seem to be saying that the primary need for gi-ds-lite is mobile. But the MIP related working groups don't seem

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-10 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Alain, all, Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : Alain Durand [mailto:adur...@juniper.net] Envoyé : vendredi 7 mai 2010 18:19 À : Behcet Sarikaya Cc : BOUCADAIR Mohamed NCPI/NAD/TIP; softwires@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-10 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
10, 2010 1:37:12 AM Subject: RE: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item? Dear Alain, all, Please see inline. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : Alain Durand [mailto:adur...@juniper.net] Envoyé : vendredi 7 mai 2010 18:19 À : Behcet Sarikaya Cc : BOUCADAIR Mohamed NCPI/NAD/TIP

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-07 Thread Hidetoshi Yokota
Hi Alain all, I support to adopt this a WG item. I believe 3GPP is also expecting to see it progress. Regards, -- Hidetoshi Dear WG, At the 3GPP-IETF interim meeting, there was strong interest in GI DS-lite, and the recommendation was the IETF should take on its standardization. There was

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-07 Thread Alain Durand
On May 7, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: (c) N:1 model: a single CGN serve a group of PGW/GGSN. Indeed, having +16M of customers is a valid case. **BUT** which Service Provider will accept to service this huge amount of UEs with the same node (if we suppose that a mega

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-07 Thread Parviz Yegani
I support to adopt this as a WG item. This is also required for the IPv6 migration work currently underway in 3GPP. Thanks, Parviz ___ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-07 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
(c) N:1 model: a single CGN serve a group of PGW/GGSN. Indeed, having +16M of customers is a valid case. **BUT** which Service Provider will accept to service this huge amount of UEs with the same node (if we suppose that a mega centralised CGN implementation is found in the

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-06 Thread Olaf.Bonness
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Mai 2010 23:57 An: softwires@ietf.org Betreff: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item? Dear WG, At the 3GPP-IETF interim meeting, there was strong interest in GI DS-lite, and the recommendation was the IETF should take on its standardization. There was similar

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-06 Thread Tina TSOU
-DS-lite draft. B. R. Tina http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html - Original Message - From: olaf.bonn...@telekom.de To: adur...@juniper.net Cc: softwires@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item? I'm in favor of adopting

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-06 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
;softwires-boun...@ietf.org [mailto: href=mailto:softwires-boun...@ietf.org;softwires-boun...@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von Alain Durand Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Mai 2010 23:57 An: href=mailto:softwires@ietf.org;softwires@ietf.org Betreff: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item? Dear WG

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-06 Thread Lee, Yiu
I support to adopt this a WG item. On 5/5/10 5:57 PM, Alain Durand adur...@juniper.net wrote: Dear WG, At the 3GPP-IETF interim meeting, there was strong interest in GI DS-lite, and the recommendation was the IETF should take on its standardization. There was similar interest shown during

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-06 Thread Lee, Yiu
Alain Durand Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Mai 2010 23:57 An: softwires@ietf.org Betreff: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item? Dear WG, At the 3GPP-IETF interim meeting, there was strong interest in GI DS-lite, and the recommendation was the IETF should take on its standardization

Re: [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-06 Thread Cameron Byrne
2010 23:57 À : softwires@ietf.org Objet : [Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item? Dear WG, At the 3GPP-IETF interim meeting, there was strong interest in GI DS-lite, and the recommendation was the IETF should take on its standardization. There was similar interest shown during

[Softwires] GI-DS-lite as working group item?

2010-05-05 Thread Alain Durand
Dear WG, At the 3GPP-IETF interim meeting, there was strong interest in GI DS-lite, and the recommendation was the IETF should take on its standardization. There was similar interest shown during the last IETF meeting and an informal show of hands demonstrated large support to take GI DS-lite