[Sprinklerforum] Re: Test

2023-11-09 Thread George Medina Jr.
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[Sprinklerforum] Re: test

2023-08-09 Thread Thomas Reinhardt
Hi, Really enjoy this forum. Have gained a lot of knowledge. My question is what is the best way to have sprinkler protection for a sand blasting room. Building is fully sprinklered. My concern is protection of the heads inside the room. Any thoughts? Thanks From: Gregg Fontes Sent:

[Sprinklerforum] Re: TEST

2022-07-21 Thread MaryKay DiMaggio
Yes MaryKay DiMaggio Reliability – Fire Prevention Manager Cell: (279) 206-8923 [RFP-Logo-CorpReliabilityTeam_Horizontal-PMS-597x70-1fd001f] From: Bob Caputo Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 11:01 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: [Sprinklerforum] TEST EXTERNAL EMAIL: DO

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2022-06-01 Thread Ron Brooks
Got it! Thanks, Ron Brooks Operations Manager [Firetrol Header for Word] Firetrol Protection Systems, Inc. 4616 W. Howard Lane, Building 7, Suite 700 Austin, Texas 78728 rbro...@firetrol.net www.firetrol.net Office 512-687-0115 Fax

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2019-03-04 Thread Fpdcdesign
Nice to know. I spots hadn’t been going through lately > > On Mar 4, 2019 at 1:01 PM, mailto:tston...@comcast.net)> wrote: > > > > > > Testing Passed. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > G. Tim Stone > > > > > > > > G. Tim

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2019-03-04 Thread tstone52
Testing Passed. Regards, G. Tim Stone G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC NICET Level III Engineering Technician Fire Protection Sprinkler Design and Consulting Services 117 Old Stage Rd. - Essex Jct., VT. 05452 CELL: (802) 373-0638 TEL: (802) 434-2968

RE: Test partner needed

2017-05-26 Thread Richard Mote
Steve, Josh Jones, our General Manager asked me to forward you his email and phone, we would be glad to work with you on this. We are located In Middleburg, PA but do work all over the state of PA, Northern Maryland, New Jersey, New York and North Carolina. Josh Jones

RE: Test partner needed

2017-05-25 Thread Steve Leyton
Didn’t realize Digger was in Pottstown. Didn’t even know there was a Pottstown. SML From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of John Irwin Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:31 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Test partner

RE: Test partner needed

2017-05-25 Thread John Irwin
Digger Weigand at Victory Fire in Pottstown, PA maybe? John Irwin Division Manager – Fire Sprinklers Critical System Solutions, LLC Licence Number: FPC16-53 Cell: 813.618.2781 Email: jir...@criticalsystemsolutions.com

RE: Test header on riser

2016-07-14 Thread David Williams
1:59 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Test header on riser Why do you need to demonstrate the flow rate? The purpose of the forward flow test is to fully operate the back flow valve. A flow at 500 GPM will not open the valve fully? On Jul 14, 2016 9:52 AM, "

RE: Test header on riser

2016-07-14 Thread Forest Wilson
IGN* > > > > > > *From:* Sprinklerforum [mailto: > sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] *On Behalf Of *Todd > Williams > *Sent:* Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:16 AM > *To:* sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > *Subject:* RE: Test header on riser > > > >

Re: Test header on riser

2016-07-14 Thread rongreenman .
So define test header and for what test. We just went through a huge thread about BOR and testing this that and everything else with the original questioner never defining what the test was for (or at least not before I got bored). First picture in my head when someone says test header is one for

RE: Test header on riser

2016-07-14 Thread Scott Futrell
Todd, I’m not sure you’ve really received an answer. Simply, there is not, in NFPA 13. You didn’t ask about government requirements or backflow preventer requirements. I would guess he/she is confused over the intent or the terminology. Good luck. Scott Office: (763) 425-1001 x 2 Cell:

Re: Test header on riser

2016-07-14 Thread Justin Stewart
Had a project at a military base and they insisted that we installed a test header for the forward flow test on the back-flow preventer. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 14, 2016, at 7:41 AM, Todd Williams wrote: > > Is there any requirement to install a test header on a

RE: Test header on riser

2016-07-14 Thread David Williams
liams Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:16 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Test header on riser We installed a by-pass on the FDC line for the forward flow test, but he wants a test header as well. Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860-535

RE: Test header on riser

2016-07-14 Thread Todd Williams
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:55 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Test header on riser Have not heard of this before. Perhaps he wants to do forward flow test for backflow preventer? Mike Hill From: Sprinklerforum [ mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkl

RE: Test header on riser

2016-07-14 Thread Ryan Labrie
rforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Test header on riser Have not heard of this before. Perhaps he wants to do forward flow test for backflow preventer? Mike Hill From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Todd Williams Sent: Thursday, J

RE: Test header on riser

2016-07-14 Thread Michael Hill
Have not heard of this before. Perhaps he wants to do forward flow test for backflow preventer? Mike Hill From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Todd Williams Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:41 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org

Re: test

2015-12-30 Thread Ben Young
You passed! On Wednesday, December 30, 2015, Thomas Reinhardt < thomas.reinha...@skokie.org> wrote: > > > Tom Reinhardt > Fire Inspector/Plan Reviewer > Skokie Fire Department > 7424 Niles Center Road > Skokie, IL 60077 > Office: 847-982-5342 > thomas.reinha...@skokie.org

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2015-12-30 Thread Brad Casterline
Thomas, Please e-mail me at: bcasterli...@gmail.com It seems like your frustration should be growing hair by now :) are you trying to attach something to your posts? using the above address, it will only come to me, so you can cuss, vent, go off-topic, etc, and I will try to help you ask a

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2015-12-23 Thread Steve Mackinnon
Hello Sent from… > On Dec 23, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Thomas Reinhardt > wrote: > > > > Tom Reinhardt > Fire Inspector/Plan Reviewer > Skokie Fire Department > 7424 Niles Center Road > Skokie, IL 60077 > Office: 847-982-5342 >

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2015-12-15 Thread Todd Williams
test back Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860-535-2080 (ofc) 860-608-4559 (cell) Sent using CloudMagic [https://cloudmagic.com/k/d/mailapp?ct=ti=6.0.64=8.2] On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 5:04 PM, sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org

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2015-12-15 Thread Matthew J Willis
Lead From: Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org> on behalf of rongreenman . <rongreen...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 3:26 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: test A king

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2015-12-15 Thread rongreenman .
A king’s beautiful daughter reaches marriageable age and the kingdom is besieged by princely courters from across the fairy tale land. Wishing to marry his daughter off to the prince most likely to be a thoughtful king when the old king dies and he inherits the throne, the king devises a riddle

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2015-12-15 Thread David Bitton
@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: test Lead From: Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org> on behalf of rongreenman . <rongreen...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 3:26 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org

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2015-12-15 Thread Steve Leyton
Subject: Re: test Lead From: Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org> on behalf of rongreenman . <rongreen...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 3:26 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: te

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2015-12-15 Thread rongreenman .
forum [mailto: > sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Matthew J > Willis > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 2:35 PM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: Re: test > > Lead > > > From: Sprinkler

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2015-12-15 Thread rongreenman .
kler.org] > On Behalf Of Matthew J Willis > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 5:35 PM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: Re: test > > Lead > > > From: Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.

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2015-12-08 Thread Todd Williams
Test back Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860-535-2080 (ofc) 860-608-4559 (cell) Sent using CloudMagic [https://cloudmagic.com/k/d/mailapp?ct=pi=6.0.64=8.2] On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:35 PM, sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org

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2015-12-08 Thread firstin
Is there problem with posting? I submitted something but I haven't seen it show up. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Todd Williams wrote: > > Test back > > Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT > 860-535-2080 (ofc)

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2015-12-08 Thread rongreenman .
You get sent to the spam folder in my gmail as you are an AOL address. Don't know why that happens nor if it's a universal thing or just mine. On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 11:57 AM, wrote: > Is there problem with posting? I submitted something but I haven't seen > it show up. > >

RE: test

2015-10-29 Thread Steve Mackinnon
:) -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Reinhardt Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 9:51 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: test ___

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2015-10-23 Thread rongreenman .
B– On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Thomas Reinhardt < thomas.reinha...@skokie.org> wrote: > > ___ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >

Re: Test to see if attachment works

2015-10-06 Thread Travis Mack, SET
Correct. You need to load something to dropbox or something like that and then send the link. Travis Mack, SET MFP Design, LLC 2508 E Lodgepole Drive Gilbert, AZ 85298 480-505-9271 fax: 866-430-6107 email:tm...@mfpdesign.com http://www.mfpdesign.com

RE: Test to see if attachment works

2015-10-06 Thread Steve Leyton
You can't send attachments to the sprinklerforum list-server. SL -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of firs...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 1:07 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject:

Re: Test and Drain

2015-07-31 Thread Travis Mack, SET
We just use the 4.2k test orifice. *8.17.4.2.1 *An alarm test connection not less than 1 in. (25 mm) in diameter, terminating in a smooth bore corrosion resistant orifice, giving a flow equal to or less than one sprinkler of a type having the smallest K-factor installed on the particular

Re: Test and Drain

2015-07-31 Thread John Denhardt
100% correct. That is why the language was changed a few years ago. Sprinklers Save On Jul 31, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Charles Thurston charl...@mbfsg.com wrote: Hello Travis, I was thinking the same thing. Just wanted to get a kind of confirmation there was not a 4.9 out there I had

Re: Test and Drain

2015-07-31 Thread Charles Thurston
Hello Travis, I was thinking the same thing. Just wanted to get a kind of confirmation there was not a 4.9 out there I had missed. Thank You Friday, July 31, 2015, 11:47:39 AM, you wrote: We just use the 4.2k test orifice. *8.17.4.2.1 *An alarm test connection not less than 1 in. (25 mm)

Re: test email

2015-07-23 Thread Ben Young
No :) On Wednesday, July 22, 2015, michael G m...@keyfps.com wrote: yep -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org javascript:;] On Behalf Of Matt Grise Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 5:52 PM To:

RE: test email

2015-07-22 Thread David Blackwell
Yes. Respectfully, David W. S. Blackwell, II, PE, CFPE, CFI I Chief Engineer Office of State Fire Marshal SC Department of Labor, Licensing, Regulation, 141 Monticello Trail, Columbia, SC 29203 Telephone: 803.896.9800 [Office] 803.896.9833 [Direct] Fax: 803.896.9806 [Office] Email:  

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2015-07-22 Thread michael G
yep -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Matt Grise Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 5:52 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: test email It has been so quiet... is the forum still up? Matt Grisé

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2015-01-08 Thread Morey, Mike
yes On Jan 8, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Matt Grise m...@afpsprink.com wrote: Have not seen any emails... am I getting through? Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP, NICET II Sales Engineer Alliance Fire Protection 130 w 9th Ave. North Kansas City, MO 64116 *Licensed in KS MO 913.888.0647 ph

RE: Test Certificates

2014-12-23 Thread Curtis Tower
and liability on the line. Just my .02... Curtis -Original Message- From: Matt Willis [mailto:ma...@rapidfireinc.com] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 4:11 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Test Certificates You are being asked to mix apples and oranges. See 24.1 of 2010

RE: Test Certificates

2014-12-19 Thread Matt Willis
To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Test Certificates Matt, Will review section reference when I get back in front of computer. Agree. Two completely different things. Basically, being asked to produce fraudulent document stating we performed a test (drain and alarm) that we

Re: Test Certificates

2014-12-19 Thread Todd - Work
Of course the assumption here is that they actually do the tests and don't just copy the numbers from last time (or modify them a pound or 2). Given the level of ethics here, anything is possible. Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT www.fpdc.com 860-535-2080

RE: Test Certificates

2014-12-18 Thread Matt Willis
You are being asked to mix apples and oranges. See 24.1 of 2010 edition if 13. You are certifying the system to 13. The inspection reports are to 25. Two VERY different things. R/ Matt -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On

Re: Test Certificates

2014-12-18 Thread Steven Cook
Matt, Will review section reference when I get back in front of computer. Agree. Two completely different things. Basically, being asked to produce fraudulent document stating we performed a test (drain and alarm) that we didn't. Let's call it what it is. The above test certificate

Re: Test Certificates

2014-12-18 Thread Travis Mack
Steve: I agree with what you stated you are being asked to do - falsify a document. I come across that from time to time. I just basically tell my customers that I don't really care what the others before me did. I will only do what I believe is correct and that I won't jeopardize my

Re: Test Certificates

2014-12-18 Thread Parsley Consulting
Travis hit the mark on this one Steven. I'd be very concerned if a customer asked me to provide false information to an AHJ. I don't know if I'd want to do business with a company who did such a thing. In California, property owners are allowed to have their own staff do the work you're

Re: Test Certificates

2014-12-18 Thread Douglas Hicks
I do not have a very good opinion of the fire suppression business. I see too many occasions when obvious short cuts are taken or the work was not even done, but was invoiced. I want to thank you guys for responding to Mr Cooks question dealing with ethics. I think all of us are tempted to

Re: Test Certificates

2014-12-18 Thread Ed
Perhaps the AHJ will permit you to witness tests done by the owners personnel and report the results as such. You could add some weight to this by Letting the AHJ know that your observation and able you to correct any improper message the owners personnel are using. Sent from my iPhone On

RE: Test

2014-06-02 Thread Brian Harris
You passed !! Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssytemsinc.com -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Bobby Gillett Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 1:14 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Test Is

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2014-06-02 Thread Bobby Gillett
Thank you Brian​. It must be a setting in my Gmail or something, I don't get an email or see it when I post - wasn't sure if they were getting through. Bobby Gillett *Living Water Fire Protection, LLC* 1160 McKenzie Rd. Cantonment, FL 32533 (850) 937-1850 On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 12:17 PM,

RE: Test Header Calc

2014-05-15 Thread RFletcher
Why not just read the gauges on the pump? Ron F -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Brian Harris Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:22 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Test Header Calc I'm running

RE: Test Header Calc

2014-05-15 Thread Tim Stone
Brian, I just performed this on a warehouse project with a diesel fire pump taking suction from a municipal water supply. The EOR wanted to know the pressures on the Suction Flange of the pump. I started off with 375 GPM on each test header valve and assigned a pressure of 47 PSI to one of the

RE: Test Header Calc

2014-05-15 Thread RFletcher
@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Test Header Calc Brian, I just performed this on a warehouse project with a diesel fire pump taking suction from a municipal water supply. The EOR wanted to know the pressures on the Suction Flange of the pump. I started off with 375 GPM on each test header valve

RE: Test Header Calc

2014-05-15 Thread Tim Stone
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:43 AM To: Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Test Header Calc Okay, what am I missing? There are gauges on the suction and discharge sides of the pump, right? Ron F -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun

RE: Test Header Calc

2014-05-15 Thread Craig.Prahl
Are you trying to determine a pressure so you can assign a k-factor to the test header outlets? Why not just put a fixed flow from each test connection outlet and then see what the pressure is and how that compares to the pump rating? Do you have a flow test showing what's going into the pump?

RE: Test Header Calc

2014-05-15 Thread RFletcher
...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:51 AM To: Ronl.Fletcher; Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Test Header Calc Ron, In my case the EOR was worried about negative pressures on the suction flange before the sprinkler contractor ordered the pump. Regards, G. Tim Stone G

Re: Test Header Calc

2014-05-15 Thread Brad Casterline
...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:51 AM To: Ronl.Fletcher; Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Test Header Calc Ron, In my case the EOR was worried about negative pressures on the suction flange before the sprinkler contractor ordered the pump. Regards, G

Re: Test Header Calc

2014-05-15 Thread Brad Casterline
glad tomorrow is Friday. Ron F -Original Message- From: Tim Stone [mailto:tston...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:51 AM To: Ronl.Fletcher; Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Test Header Calc Ron, In my case the EOR was worried about negative

RE: test 12-27-13

2013-12-27 Thread Brian Harris
Mines not working either, what did you have to do to fix it? Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssytemsinc.com -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Reinhardt Sent: Friday,

Re: test 12-27-13 -testing again

2013-12-27 Thread John Lewis
Got it   Thanks, J. Lewis From: Thomas Reinhardt treinha...@wheelingil.gov To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 11:47 AM Subject: FW: test 12-27-13 -testing again Wheeling

Re: test 2

2013-12-23 Thread rongreenman .
You didn't answer any of the questions for either test. That is a failing grade. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Thomas Reinhardt treinha...@wheelingil.gov wrote: Wheeling Fire Inspector Tom Reinhardt 2 Community Boulevard Wheeling, IL 60090 847-499-9067

Re: test 2

2013-12-23 Thread Todd Williams
Scrooge. Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860-535-2080 www.fpdc.com On Dec 23, 2013, at 4:09 PM, rongreenman . rongreen...@gmail.com wrote: You didn't answer any of the questions for either test. That is a failing grade. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at

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2013-12-23 Thread rongreenman .
Indeed! On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Todd Williams t...@fpdc.com wrote: Scrooge. Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860-535-2080 www.fpdc.com On Dec 23, 2013, at 4:09 PM, rongreenman . rongreen...@gmail.com wrote: You didn't answer any of

RE: test header

2013-06-04 Thread Tom Duross
...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Roland Huggins Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:18 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: test header NFPA 13 has stated for a couple of cycles that a means shall be provided to forward flow test the BFP. Look at 8.17.4.6.1. Because Mr Greenman requested

Re: test header

2013-06-04 Thread Charles Thurston
] On Behalf Of Roland Huggins Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:18 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: test header NFPA 13 has stated for a couple of cycles that a means shall be provided to forward flow test the BFP. Look at 8.17.4.6.1. Because Mr Greenman requested

RE: test header

2013-06-03 Thread Mark A. Sornsin, P.E.
://www.kfiengineers.com -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 2:41 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: test header By the time toy've

RE: test header

2013-06-03 Thread John Denhardt
To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: test header Moreover, the engineer could specify Ron's solution up front. Doesn't help the design-build jobs - but you as the contractor could offer it up front...in such a way that makes you look like you're helping the customer, not just

RE: test header

2013-06-03 Thread RFletcher
...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Mark A. Sornsin, P.E. Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 6:13 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: test header Moreover, the engineer could specify Ron's solution up front. Doesn't help

Re: test header

2013-06-03 Thread Ron Greenman
: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Mark A. Sornsin, P.E. Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 6:13 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: test header Moreover, the engineer could specify Ron's solution up

Re: test header

2013-06-03 Thread Todd - Work
Subject: RE: test header Moreover, the engineer could specify Ron's solution up front. Doesn't help the design-build jobs - but you as the contractor could offer it up front...in such a way that makes you look like you're helping the customer, not just seeking a means to get more money out

Re: test header

2013-06-03 Thread Ron Greenman
A. Sornsin, P.E. Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 6:13 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: test header Moreover, the engineer could specify Ron's solution up front. Doesn't help the design-build jobs - but you as the contractor could offer it up front...in such a way

Re: test header

2013-06-03 Thread George Church
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Mark A. Sornsin, P.E. Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 6:13 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: test header Moreover, the engineer could specify Ron's solution up front. Doesn't help the design-build jobs - but you

RE: test header

2013-06-03 Thread Cahill, Christopher
, June 03, 2013 9:23 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: test header I think we're talking about the 25 test here and this is an ongoing deal. When you find a system without means it is in the owner's interest to pay for installing a header, which can be as little as dropping

Re: test header

2013-06-03 Thread Roland Huggins
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Mark A. Sornsin, P.E. Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 6:13 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: test header Moreover, the engineer could specify Ron's solution up front. Doesn't help the design-build

RE: test header

2013-06-03 Thread Mark A. Sornsin, P.E.
: RE: test header This discussion is about the minority of systems right? Doesn't the 2 main drain take care of most LH and OH? Chris Cahill, PE* Senior Fire Protection Engineer, Aviation Facilities Group Burns McDonnell 8201 Norman Center Drive Bloomington, MN 55437 Phone: 952.656.3652 Fax

Re: test header

2013-06-03 Thread Roland Huggins
you calculate it just like flow from any other orifice open to the exterior. The judgement part comes in for assigning a discharge coefficient and the exact size for a threaded orifice. This issue was the exact topic of an article in the May issue of Sprinkler Age. It can be accessed from

RE: test header

2013-05-31 Thread G. Tim Stone
Why is the designer being required to perform this task usually performed by a Sprinkler Service crew? The old school method is to remove the check valve on the Fire Department Connection, Install a Spool piece of the same size and length and then flow water through the FDC outside the building.

RE: test header

2013-05-31 Thread Brad Casterline
There is a good article in the latest Sprinkler Age (by Roland) that might give you some ideas. -Original Message- From: Easter, Timothy [mailto:timothy.eas...@urs.com] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 1:39 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: test header Designer is

RE: test header

2013-05-31 Thread Mark A. Sornsin, P.E.
://www.kfiengineers.com -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of G. Tim Stone Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 1:52 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: test header Why is the designer

RE: test header

2013-05-31 Thread G. Tim Stone
To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: test header Of course, if your design flow is high enough, you may not get enough flow out of the FDC inlet - especially one equipped with flappers. Mark A. Sornsin, P.E. | Karges-Faulconbridge, Inc. | Fire Protection Engineer | Fargo, ND

RE: Test

2012-11-19 Thread Bobby Gillett
You Passed Bobby Gillett Sr. Project Manager Key Fire Protection, Inc. (731) 424-0130 office (731) 424-9285 fax (731) 267-4853 cell www.keyfireprotection.com -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf

RE: Test Gauge 0-300 PSI

2012-05-16 Thread Steve Leyton
All: Check out www.gaugestore.com As per Steve Leyton -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Frank Herrick Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 3:33 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject:

RE: Test Gauge 0-300 PSI

2012-05-16 Thread Tom Duross
. TD -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 6:36 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Test Gauge 0-300 PSI All: Check out www.gaugestore.com

RE: Test Gauge 0-300 PSI

2012-05-16 Thread Steve Leyton
@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Test Gauge 0-300 PSI All: Check out www.gaugestore.com As per Steve Leyton -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Frank Herrick Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 3:33 PM

RE: Test

2012-03-23 Thread Bobby Gillett
Passed. Bobby Gillett Sr. Project Manager Key Fire Protection, Inc. (731) 424-0130 office (731) 424-9285 fax (731) 267-4853 cell www.keyfireprotection.com -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of

Re: Test

2012-03-23 Thread Craig Leadbetter
Thanks. On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Bobby Gillett gillet...@keyfireprotection.com wrote: Passed. Bobby Gillett Sr. Project Manager Key Fire Protection, Inc. (731) 424-0130 office (731) 424-9285 fax (731) 267-4853 cell www.keyfireprotection.com -Original Message-

RE: test certificates

2012-03-22 Thread Bobby Gillett
Greg, Typically we do one for each system; it's easier to refer back to and there is usually limited space to record data for multiple systems - drain tests, etc. We may have a warehouse with 20 typical ESFR systems, we still do one for each so all data will be properly filled out for each system

RE: Test

2010-10-25 Thread G. Tim Stone
Received. Regards, G. Tim Stone G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC NICET Level III Engineering Technician Fire Protection Sprinkler Design and Consulting Services 117 Old Stage Rd. - Essex Jct., VT. 05452 TEL: (802) 434-2968 Fax: (802) 434-4343 tston...@comcast.net

Re: test

2010-08-17 Thread Todd - FPDC
Did I pass? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Tom Duross tduro...@comcast.net wrote: test ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum

Re: Test connection for forward flow testing of backflow

2010-07-28 Thread Frank Kuntz
, like never. glc -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Reed Roisum Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 10:38 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org; Charles Thurston Subject: RE: Test connection

RE: Test connection for forward flow testing of backflow

2010-07-26 Thread Fletcher, Ron
Main drain. Ron Fletcher Aero Automatic Phoenix, AZ -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of craig.pr...@ch2m.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 5:32 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org;

RE: Test connection for forward flow testing of backflow

2010-07-26 Thread Richard Carr
HOSE VALVES. Richard Carr, SET Design Manager Associated Sprinkler Co., LLC 336.373.3901 ext 217 richa...@associatedsprinkler.com -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of craig.pr...@ch2m.com

Re: Test connection for forward flow testing of backflow

2010-07-26 Thread Charles Thurston
Hello Craig, Fire pump test header for sizes over 2, Otherwise the main drain Monday, July 26, 2010, 8:31:34 AM, you wrote: Just trying to get a consensus, Got a backflow in a building at the riser location, what is the preferred type of connection at the wall which would allow for forward

RE: Test connection for forward flow testing of backflow

2010-07-26 Thread lamarvaughn
The way I have handled this if the system demand is more than the main drain can handle is to provide a valved discharge,onto a paved area or splash block,calculated to a size to give an equivilent flow to the system demand.Sounds like a pain but I haven't found any other way. Lamar Vaughn,SET

RE: Test connection for forward flow testing of backflow

2010-07-26 Thread Reed Roisum
Thurston Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:29 AM To: craig.pr...@ch2m.com Subject: Re: Test connection for forward flow testing of backflow Hello Craig, Fire pump test header for sizes over 2, Otherwise the main drain Monday, July 26, 2010, 8:31:34 AM, you wrote: Just trying to get a consensus

RE: Test connection for forward flow testing of backflow

2010-07-26 Thread George Church
: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Reed Roisum Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 10:38 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org; Charles Thurston Subject: RE: Test connection for forward flow testing of backflow What if you don't have a fire pump

Re: Test connection for forward flow testing of backflow

2010-07-26 Thread cherokeefire...@aol.com
points out, like never. glc -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Reed Roisum Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 10:38 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org; Charles Thurston Subject: RE: Test connection

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