y silicone seal there
> and also where the boot grips the 1” pipe. The boot will isolate the
> sprinkler from the pressurized plenum.
>
> Allan Seidel
> St. Louis, MO
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Larrimer, Peter A <peter.a.larri...@va.gov>
> wrote:
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I'm looking at an FDC setup on the underground main to a building
(sprinklers and standpipe) where there is not a check on the underground
between the FDC and the nearest upstream fire hydrant. This was installed
this way as directed by the Fire Marshall. To make this picture clear,
water pumped
, but perhaps there is an established way to do this.
Thank you,
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
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Thanks Bob, I see it now. Its been added for 2010 14. The latest IBC we use
is 2009. It references 2007 14 and it makes statements as if it
is coordinated with 2007 14. Maybe the latest IBC has changed its tune.
Allan Seidel
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On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Bob b
in tight ceiling condition remodel projects where it is much easier
to attach that type versus having to spin a Flexhead.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Vince Sabolik vi...@christifire.comwrote:
So, two designers here use these??
Vince Sabolik
Christi Fire
Does the apron pavement slope away or towards the Concourse? Are the apron
pavement drainage scuppers arranged in a way to identify building areas that
would not be as exposed to flames as other areas?
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Greg McGahan g...@livingwaterfp.com
use. The problem is deciding what the initial stream velocity to use. In
this study one calibrates the spreadsheet initial stream velocity by
entering in a couple of points from a sprinkler discharge chart.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Chris Cahill chr
higher than what you get by selecting off a published sprinkler discharge
chart at say 8 feet away from the sprinkler. Those charts vary
by manufacturer and sprinkler type but you can get a general idea of what
range of numbers are reasonable.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:38
of sch 40 losses. Now it needs to be adjusted in terms of sch 10 losses. The
sch 10 losses per foot are smaller than sch 40 losses per foot. So its going
to take more sch 10 pipe to add up to the same loss impact. It is good that
you are checking for calc. sanity.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Wed
at the intersection?
- What are the fittings between the pipe intersection and the outlet? One
could guess at least 1 valve, 3 90s and the intersection Tee.
- Is this lined DI?
- Is there a float valve at the tank or is this all open pipe and you are
trying to get an idea how long a fill will take?
Allan Seidel
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Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 9:46 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: GPM Flowing Out of 6 Pipe
It is the intersection between the gpm/pd water supply curve at the pipe
intersection and the gpm
certain conditions. The valve would appear as if it is
not closing all the way. You can avoid that situation by connecting the
sense line to the higher pressure side of your system instead of the
incoming water side as is the factory default.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:54
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to revamp a 3/4 outlet to a 1 drop is permitted in areas subject to
earthquakes. Is that why its called a California fitting?
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St. Louis, MO
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My thoughts are the same regarding the reason but when you choose to live by
the sword you also must die by the sword and the rule says pipe nipple
without mentioning fitting. There is even a sketch. The fitting in question
is an AnvilStar Figure 1103R 1 female, 3/4 male.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis
I saw a slow to ITC case like this, large system and low but steady static
city water, that turned out to be the result of gravel in the water supply
double check assembly.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Frans Stoop f.st...@adsltotaal.nl wrote:
Dear colleagues
on that assumption, would increasing the design
area by 30%, as in delayed water-to-fire situations and also increasing the
application rate to OH1 be a logical fire protection approach to this
situation to bring to the Fire Marshall?
Thanks again for your comments,
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
equivalency to the missing protection other than sales
brochures where the sprinkler protection has been photoshopped out.
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St. Louis, MO
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from the wall where the closets were.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's furniture. No sprinklers within. Well, unless someone is going to
occupy it.
NFPA 13, 2007, 8.1(7)
[cid:658182813@05112008-3391]
Craig L. Prahl, CET
Fire
. The piping will be painted out black. Each
sprinkler will terminate at back to back 90s and sit at the end of a
vertical drop. For this dome there are only four sprinklers located near the
top of the dome. The project location is not in a seismic area.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008
?
Thanks,
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Jun 7, 2008, at 2:17 PM, Ron Greenman wrote:
Allan,
I just ran into this and was surprised. Typically what I've seen is
drop-in anchor or red-head holding down the strut then a strut clamp
for the pipe. Had an AHJ recently say that strut wasn't listed
. This forum is another rock that cannot be left unturned.
Thanks again,
Allan Seidel
St. Louis. MO
On Jun 9, 2008, at 10:43 PM, Ron Greenman wrote:
I think you may be over engineering this problem
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. The problem is I need to know what methods are not
permitted. For example, is piping strapped to a unistrut, point-load
style, technically not permitted?
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that is what is
going on and maybe not, but keep in mind that all the rest of the
system in question is just plain pipe and valves. The only unknown
mechanism involved is what is inside the BFP.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On May 9, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Dewayne Martinez wrote:
I have a job
system can go back on line and the sooner the fire
department will comfortable to allow occupancy.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Mar 29, 2008, at 2:30 AM, Haji, Jaber M wrote:
A room is protected by Novec 1230 gas suppression system, dose it
require a purge fan? Keep in mind that this it shall
Sounds like a hot tap tool and a strap on tapping saddle.
For example: http://www.2lbin.com/ljr.htm and http://www.2lbin.com/
ts.htm
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Mar 26, 2008, at 8:12 PM, Q.P. wrote:
I was just wondering if anyone had seen a tool that goes on a
drop. It has a drill
ceiling will be the amongst the first items value engineered
out. A dark ceiling in a school setting is a waste of energy. Almost
all school gathering places need plenty of light because they are
often used for taking SAT exams.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Jan 24, 2008, at 2:59 PM, RFI
I think this is it. Minimal performance impact applies to the
spray. In these tests the plastic introduced a delay.
Operation Times for Duct Mounted, Corrosion Protected Sprinklers and
the Influence of Sprinkler Spray on Heated Air Flow Through Ducting.
Report on Special Services
the sprinkler piping. It might pick
up a huge charge. You don't want anyone getting shocked when they
start to climb down the manhole. Those super wide spraying hallway
sprinklers might be suitable. You might have to forgo on installation
that meets all listings to the letter.
Allan Seidel
St
a plate) has been sent with placement instructions
for the client to see if it really does anything to their projected
image. I hope it will be tolerable.
Thanks again,
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Jan 8, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Russell wrote:
Yep, sure was. Can't remember the exact size but something
this is a matter of
some tiny dots on a black background.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Jan 11, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Thom McMahon wrote:
I would place a single EC concealed head at the top dead center of
the dome with additional heads outside the dome lower edge which
will overlap the EC
image. I hope it will be tolerable.
Thanks again,
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Jan 8, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Russell wrote:
Yep, sure was. Can't remember the exact size but something like a 30'
diameter. Being on the deluge system, the sprinklers were open so
ceiling
was no consideration
on the projected image. I
doubt there would be any shadow because the image arrives normal to
the surface. Has anyone done one of these?
Thanks,
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
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of separation and so I am looking for some backup,
but now I am beginning to taste crow.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Dec 10, 2007, at 4:57 PM, Roland Huggins wrote:
There was an old formal interpretation that said one building, one
system. There is criteria in the 2007 edition under 8.2.4
Folks, it has been my understanding that a sprinkler system cannot be
used to serve sprinklers in another building. I cannot find the
chapter and verse. This is not a matter of convincing someone it is a
bad idea. Am I imagining this rule?
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
. From there select the Big Arcs and
Sparks link. Then select the Arcing fault causes a 138 kV
substation power transformer to explode. link.
http://teslamania.delete.org/frames/frameindex.html
Allan Seidel
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Thanks. You are right, the sprinklers need to be 2.8 k.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Nov 6, 2007, at 9:43 AM, Thom McMahon wrote:
You could actually use 3/8 orifice sprinkler heads (Strainer
Required) and flow only 7.41 Gpm per head at 7 Psi. Your still
overflowing the design
sprinklers can be considered
less than 30 and still follow the NFPA 13 standard? My opinion is no
but I figured I'd stick my neck out and ask.
Thanks,
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
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even the flimsiest lay-in ceiling at the end of 16 foot wet noodles.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Nov 1, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Bobby Gillett wrote:
I have a situation where I have a main elevation of 27'-0 and
ceilings @
9'-0, this creates single 1x16'-0 drops w/threaded couplings
of the building which
also is the ugly side of the building and where the FDC will be
installed on this single system. So you hang one pipe instead of two.
Every job is different in some way.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
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On Jul 22, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Ron Greenman wrote:
Ray,
I also felt Craig's answer missed the mark a bit. You're comments
intrigued me because they made perfect sense but we are dealing with
NFPA here. Regarding this matter 13 does direct you to 72 when an
alarm system
and the influence to project cost
(emergency generator for example). Could your project not be
following a building code?
The sprinklers on 6 ft center makes sense to me when the opening
meets the requirement.
Having eaten crow,
Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
On Jun 25, 2007, at 6:20 PM, Travis Mack
modification. That system had brand new dirt legs
installed at the tower base to catch this stuff, of which there was
an amazing amount btw. Sprinkler systems don't really have these dirt
legs for this.
Allan Seidel
St Louis, MO
On Jun 17, 2007, at 3:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear forum
the sprinkler to the grid then the more likely to
expect trouble. The ceiling installer's error margin could easily put
you into grid trouble with a 15 foot spacing.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis. MO
On Apr 24, 2007, at 7:51 AM, Kelly McDaniel wrote:
What is industry standard in relation
into it and we do have to flow it out to some
point once a year. It won't be dug up and replaced when it fails. It
will be run visible. I think this pipe needs to be copper or DI.
Contrary to conventional wisdom, stainless can do some very
unexpected things when buried.
Allan Seidel
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on the heat pump
compressor. Consequently it is possible for the heat pump unit to
discharge air much hotter than it is supposed to (despite what the
manufacturers will tell you by the way) and it can activate a 135 F
sprinkler. Beware.
Allan Seidel
St. Louis
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