What exactly would you add it to?
David Autry
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to
show him if the existing system will work.
Brian Harris
FDFP Inc.
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Parker said she worked in the Art Deco building for 12 years.
This leads me to believe it was built in the 30's and I'm sure no sprinklers.
David Autry
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I believe it was four dead in a new, sprinklered group home.
Does this not count as a multiple loss fire in a sprinklered building?
I been told in many seminars (one this week) that NFPA has record of such. I've
told many people this fact, am I lying to them?
David Autry
Plans Examiner
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Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 11:09 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Assisted Living Facility
I believe it was four dead in a new, sprinklered group home.
Does this not count as a multiple
I was thinking it was venting sprinkler piping.
David Autry
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I've heard of using peppermint extract or something similar and using your
nose.
David Autry
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, that is if
you have the water design to GP I and show it as LT hazard with a large
safety factor, sleep well at night.
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Autry, David david.au...@nebraska.govwrote:
Okay, agreed, it's an assembly occupancy/special amusement.
What NFPA 13 occupancy/hazard would
So if you have more than .174 gallons of condensation you have to re-install
the plug and repeat.
David Autry
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My 1961 Red Book the arrangement shows three (3) valves.
David Autry
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Subject: RE: Drum Drip- why 2 valves?
What is the arrangement?
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Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:35 PM
What occupancy would you give to a haunted house?
David Autry
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No pyrotechnics, everything per 101. Permanent structure, Architect submitted
as a monster museum and now the Deputy in the field is telling me it's more of
a haunted house than a museum.
Right now it's installed as Light Hazard.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
Okay, agreed, it's an assembly occupancy/special amusement.
What NFPA 13 occupancy/hazard would it be?
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
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I believe you can ONLY have a 13 building or a 13R building. You can't mix and
match. One or the other.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
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Well said Steve.
David Autry
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Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
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Lincoln, NE 68508
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Inspector
Fire Marshals Office
Borough of Red Bank, NJ
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At some point a tank and pump would be more economical than paying those types
of fees. Not to mention that you'd probably have a backflow and that would need
yearly inspections with associated fees.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE
Valves for sampling/testing of the solution.
David Autry
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Allowing sched 30 pipe gives me another reason to question. But just because
I've never heard of sched 30 being used, maybe in theory it is allowed/used
elsewhere.
Used Sch. 30 many times, hard to find Sch. 40 in 8 and larger pipe.
See Table A.6.3.2 in NFPA 13, 2002 Edition.
David Autry
So what happens when Jackie Chan/Chuck Norris comes for a demonstration and
you've got 400 people in that 2800 sq.ft?
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
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Lincoln, NE 68508
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or have the
galv. Applied after fab.
This is what I did at a petroleum refinery in Texas. Fabricated black pipe with
welded outlets, then installed plugs in the outlets, then off to be hot-dipped.
The plugs were a major challenge to remove.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire
the plugs out?
Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel: 970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926
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13D 2002, Edition
8.6.5
David Autry
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And where in 25 does it
say I have to prove anything?
NFPA 25 (2002, Edition) 12.6.2.2
All backflow devices installed in fire protection water supply shall be tested
annually at the designed flow rate of the fire protection system, including
required hose stream demands.
Somehow you need to
Just for curiosity, what does a gallon of 3% AFFF cost?
I just need a ballpark figure.
Thanks,
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
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Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 12:19 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Foam
Just for curiosity, what does a gallon of 3% AFFF cost?
I just need a ballpark figure.
Thanks,
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S
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Subject: RE: Foam
Thank you very much, just what I needed
NFPA 1 (2003, Edition)
4.5.8.2
Existing life safety features obvious to the public, if not required by the
Code, shall be either maintained or removed.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
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A picture from the next day clearly shows a sprinkler still running and with a
good spray pattern. Apparently the Austin FD let the system run all night long.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
402-471-9659
402-471-3118 fax
Look at NFPA 101 (2000, edition) 9.7.3.1
In any occupancy where the character of the potential fuel for fire is such
that extinguishment or control of fire is effectively accomplished by a type of
automatic extinguishing system other than an automatic sprinkler system, such
as water mist,
Look at 2.1.7
Provide sprinkler protection in concealed areas, such as attics.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
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July + Kansas + 212f sprinkler = water discharge
I'm betting it was the heat of the day that did.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
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I've heard of it, seen the video, now it's being discussed here.
Where is the requirement for a bucket test?
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
402-471-9659
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I would approve it.
I would also check the calculations VERY, VERY close.
David Autry
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Shannon,
There is no requirement for a PE on sprinkler plans.
David Autry
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Second definition in my dictionary
Tank: 2. a natural or artificial pool, pond, or lake.
Going up in Texas we always call the pond on a ranch, a stock tank.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
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] On Behalf Of Autry, David
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:03 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: QR vs SSP sprinklers in LH vs OH delivery
I got an old grocery store (OH GR II), which is being bought and turned into
office space with cubicles (LH).
So according to this thread
The difference between OH II and Light would be 28.8 gallons of water.
Does 29 gallons make an impact on the project?
David Autry
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Thank you.
If you can't get under the curve because of hose allowance, then I'd have you
provide OH II for the room and reduce the hose allowance to obtain a safety
factor.
I don't see many projects where 29 gallons make an impact. On the few that I do
see we have allowed a reduction in hose
I've have a picture of 24 UG pipe being held with 2 (two) 3/4 rods.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
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Lincoln, NE 68508
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NBFU No. 13 - June, 1961
4120. Stagger
4121. Light Hazard Occupancy. Sprinklers need not be staggered except that
under open wood joist construction sprinklers should be stagger spaced if the
distance between the sprinklers on the branch lines exceeds 12 feet.
4122. Ordinary Hazard Occupancy.
I'll add a closing note as well.
When I see a system calculated to the curve, I tend to check the calculations a
lot closer for correct pipe lengths, number of fittings, valves, etc.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
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Can't use ball valves per NFPA 24 (2002, Edition) 6.1.2
Indicating valves shall not close in less than 5 seconds when operated at
maximum possible speed from the fully open position.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
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David
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:33 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Post Indicators
Can't use ball valves per NFPA 24 (2002, Edition) 6.1.2
Indicating valves shall not close in less than 5 seconds when
I seen similar connections on a few ethanol plants here in Nebraska. These
plants usually have very large tanks, 250k and larger and underground loops
with hydrants. The hose demands were figured into tank sizing.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th
Somewhere, somehow, somebody told some architects and engineers that they can
use water curtains in lieu of fire-rated construction.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
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Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:58 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Water curtains for windows
Somewhere, somehow, somebody told some architects and engineers that they can
use water curtains in lieu of fire-rated construction
If I remember correctly, the Omegas wouldn't open at 7 psi. The one I set off
from my collection seems to stick on the o-ring, but otherwise worked fine. If
you only have 7 psi on your sprinklers, you've got bigger problems than
sticky o-rings. (see sawmill from yesterday's post)
David Autry
NFPA 13 (2002, Edition) 6.1.1.5
Components that do not affect system performance such as drain piping, drain
valves and signs shall not be required to be listed.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
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The old Grinnell Fig. 258 is now an Anvil 258 and it is approved to a couple of
Federal spec's and a couple of ANSI spec's.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
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World War II
David Autry
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It's just like the zinc pennies in my collection. The brass and copper for
shells and bullets.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
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I meant steel pennies.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
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Lincoln, NE 68508
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New type of sprinkler.
David Autry
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I wonder what the cost per square foot is for indoor plumbing.
David Autry
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1961 NBFU has 6 Sections
David Autry
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Maybe they are using The Code of Hammurabi.
David Autry
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I believe he's off just by about 65 years.
In 1874 Parmelee installed his first system.
David Autry
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in the U.S., 1864, for the first automatic
sprinkler then 1878 for Parmelee and the first practical sprinkler.
Maybe the women is referring to the cask of water and gunpowder. I
don't want that one either }:-)
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Autry, David
david.au...@nebraska.gov wrote:
I believe
Ever hear of a save because the water supply into the building was impaired
and the arriving fire dept. used the FDC as the secondary supply?
Never have.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
402-471-9659
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I think the only requirement in NFPA is in 14.
100 ft.
6.3.5.4
David Autry
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I don't believe any GEM sprinklers were recalled.
Central (Tyco) had a volunteer replacement program.
David Autry
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This is from the Globe website.
*NOTE: This voluntary recall is for model J dry sprinklers ONLY and does not
include model JN sprinklers.
David Autry
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Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
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Lincoln, NE 68508
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Along that same line:
Why is the quality of plastic drawings always less than steel drawings? I
always fought with my bosses over this. NFPA Chapter 14 (2002, Edition) makes
has no different requirement for the two.
Should I disapprove plastic drawings (think - cocktail napkins) that do not
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David
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:03 AM
to list.
Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic Sprinkler
Phoenix, AZ 85024
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David
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:21 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE
that isn't there
because you're not using one. I think the list of 44 could be
improved.
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Autry, David david.au...@nebraska.gov wrote:
CPVC is not prefabricated like steel pipe so we don't bother with the
same level of shop drawing detail.
Understood.
NFPA
Tom,
I'd tell him you were taught hydraulics by Mr. Hazen and Mr. Williams.
From what I can see in NFPA 13 (2002) 14.4.4.5 (4) is the only place that
tells you what fittings go where. Tee at the top of the riser nipple shall be
included on the branchline; tee at the main shall be included in
Check the annex, and look at the Calculation Sheet.
Like someone said, it's not rocket science.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
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Lincoln, NE 68508
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I read somewhere, that fireworks started it. Lunar New Year.
David Autry
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The only requirement that I know of is in NFPA 14 (2003) 6.3.5.4
FDC shall be within 100 feet of a hydrant.
David Autry
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I think I know this but I want to verify.
Two story apartment building on top of a parking garage.
Can the garage be protected with a 13 System and the apartments on top be a 13R
System?
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
NFPA 20 (1999, Edition) 7-3.4.4
A fire pump controller shall not be used as a junction box to supply other
equipment. Electrical supply conductors for pressure maintenance (jockey or
make-up) pump(s) shall not be connected to the fire pump controller.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State
Or quote NFPA 13 2002 Edition
11.2.3.2.2.1
The densities and areas provided in Figure 11.2.3.1.5 are for use only with
spray sprinklers.
David Autry
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Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:44 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: NFPA 14
Speaking of Standpipes,
NFPA 14 (2003, Edition) 7.3.2 (1)
Class I standpipe systems shall
NFPA 14 (2003)
7.8.2.2
Pipe schedule designs shall be limited to wet standpipes for buildings that are
not high-rise buildings.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
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Yeah I know! The Tri angle of fire is OLD School, and someday it will be
the Obelisk of fire, but I hope by then to have been put to the flame for
the last time.
Actually it's a Tetrahedron.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
Why does a pipe scheduled system have a hydraulic placard in the first place?
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A smart architect..
That's pretty funny for a Tuesday morning.
This question is for the AHJ's or anybody that what to chime in.
We have a Haunted House that wants to build under a grandstand of a local
dirt-track. Per the code it needs to be sprinkler protected. Since this area is
We are just trying to help them with a do-able idea. I know it wouldn't be to
code, so we would have to make it better than code. In their case, the first
responders would already be there in case of an emergency.
The house would be torn down after Halloween; they want to make it out of
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 2:02 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: Water Supply (revised)
What about automatic detection, David? Will the piping be pressurized with
some sort of alarm?
Ed Vining
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Autry, David [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote
Subject: RE: Water Supply (revised)
From: Autry, David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, September 30, 2008 3:13 pm
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
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Good question, that's why I'm on this forum.
They propose a pumper, with a full crew, keeping the system pressurized
You should see the fight going on at the IIC's website forum.
In case you didn't know; residential sprinkler systems are now going to cause
mold to grow in your home and the pipe will give you cancer.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln,
Like someone said, the battle has been won, but not the war.
At least 50 more battles on the horizon.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
402-471-9659
402-471-3118 fax
www.sfm.ne.gov
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Start with checking with the AHJ see what k-factor they require
Why in the hell would an AHJ be giving a k-factor? Does this even make
sense?
I would tell you to provide coverage per the code, and if it is not in black
and white in the code, then have an engineer tell me what/how you are
Of Autry, David
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 7:23 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Help!! Sprinkler in Planetarium
Start with checking with the AHJ see what k-factor they require
Why in the hell would an AHJ be giving a k-factor? Does this even make
sense?
I would
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From: Autry, David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:22 AM
Subject: RE: Help!! Sprinkler in Planetarium
Start with checking with the AHJ see what k-factor they require
Why in the hell would an AHJ be giving a k
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Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:54 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Help!! Sprinkler in Planetarium
First, To my knowledge 13 doesn't put a limit on ceiling heights, so the 50' or
25' or 75' doesn't hold water. (pun
14.4.4.6.1
different orifice sizes shall not be used for balancing the system.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
246 S. 14th Street
Lincoln, NE 68508
402-471-9659
402-471-3118 fax
www.sfm.ne.gov
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