RE: Pipe Schedule Systems

2010-09-16 Thread Autry, David
What exactly would you add it to? David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov -Original Message- From:

RE: Pipe Schedule Systems

2010-09-16 Thread Autry, David
to show him if the existing system will work. Brian Harris FDFP Inc. -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Autry, David Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:39 AM To: sprinklerforum

RE: Massive crew fights fire at landmark

2010-09-01 Thread Autry, David
Parker said she worked in the Art Deco building for 12 years. This leads me to believe it was built in the 30's and I'm sure no sprinklers. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov **

RE: Assisted Living Facility

2010-08-13 Thread Autry, David
I believe it was four dead in a new, sprinklered group home. Does this not count as a multiple loss fire in a sprinklered building? I been told in many seminars (one this week) that NFPA has record of such. I've told many people this fact, am I lying to them? David Autry Plans Examiner

RE: Assisted Living Facility

2010-08-13 Thread Autry, David
...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Autry, David Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 11:09 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Assisted Living Facility I believe it was four dead in a new, sprinklered group home. Does this not count as a multiple

RE: Air Pockets- false alarms

2010-07-23 Thread Autry, David
I was thinking it was venting sprinkler piping. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov -Original Message- From:

RE: Finding leaks in a dry pipe system

2010-07-16 Thread Autry, David
I've heard of using peppermint extract or something similar and using your nose. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov

RE: Haunted House

2010-07-14 Thread Autry, David
, that is if you have the water design to GP I and show it as LT hazard with a large safety factor, sleep well at night. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Autry, David david.au...@nebraska.govwrote: Okay, agreed, it's an assembly occupancy/special amusement. What NFPA 13 occupancy/hazard would

RE: Drum Drip- why 2 valves?

2010-07-13 Thread Autry, David
So if you have more than .174 gallons of condensation you have to re-install the plug and repeat. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address:

RE: Drum Drip- why 2 valves?

2010-07-13 Thread Autry, David
My 1961 Red Book the arrangement shows three (3) valves. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov -Original Message- From:

RE: Drum Drip- why 2 valves?

2010-07-13 Thread Autry, David
[mailto:bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:49 PM To: Autry, David; sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Drum Drip- why 2 valves? What is the arrangement? -Original Message- From: Autry, David [mailto:david.au...@nebraska.gov] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:35 PM

Haunted House

2010-07-13 Thread Autry, David
What occupancy would you give to a haunted house? David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov

RE: Haunted House

2010-07-13 Thread Autry, David
No pyrotechnics, everything per 101. Permanent structure, Architect submitted as a monster museum and now the Deputy in the field is telling me it's more of a haunted house than a museum. Right now it's installed as Light Hazard. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office

RE: Haunted House

2010-07-13 Thread Autry, David
Okay, agreed, it's an assembly occupancy/special amusement. What NFPA 13 occupancy/hazard would it be? David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov

RE: Question regarding NFPA 13 vs. NFPA 13R

2010-07-07 Thread Autry, David
I believe you can ONLY have a 13 building or a 13R building. You can't mix and match. One or the other. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address:

RE: Question regarding NFPA 13 vs. NFPA 13R

2010-07-07 Thread Autry, David
Well said Steve. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org

Anti-Freeze

2010-07-07 Thread Autry, David
Inspector Fire Marshals Office Borough of Red Bank, NJ -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Autry, David Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:23 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org; bcasterl

RE: St. Louis Sprinkler Article

2010-06-11 Thread Autry, David
At some point a tank and pump would be more economical than paying those types of fees. Not to mention that you'd probably have a backflow and that would need yearly inspections with associated fees. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE

RE: Figure 4-5.3.1 1999 NFPA 13

2010-06-10 Thread Autry, David
Valves for sampling/testing of the solution. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov -Original Message- From:

RE: Size considerations

2010-05-26 Thread Autry, David
Allowing sched 30 pipe gives me another reason to question. But just because I've never heard of sched 30 being used, maybe in theory it is allowed/used elsewhere. Used Sch. 30 many times, hard to find Sch. 40 in 8 and larger pipe. See Table A.6.3.2 in NFPA 13, 2002 Edition. David Autry

RE: Occupant load vs. Square footage

2010-05-21 Thread Autry, David
So what happens when Jackie Chan/Chuck Norris comes for a demonstration and you've got 400 people in that 2800 sq.ft? David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address:

RE: Galv fittings?

2010-05-21 Thread Autry, David
or have the galv. Applied after fab. This is what I did at a petroleum refinery in Texas. Fabricated black pipe with welded outlets, then installed plugs in the outlets, then off to be hot-dipped. The plugs were a major challenge to remove. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire

RE: Galv fittings?

2010-05-21 Thread Autry, David
the plugs out? Thom McMahon, SET Firetech, Inc. 2560 Copper Ridge Dr P.O. Box 882136 Steamboat Springs, CO 80488 Tel: 970-879-7952 Fax: 970-879-7926 -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Autry

RE: 13R vs. 13D (Attics)

2010-05-13 Thread Autry, David
13D 2002, Edition 8.6.5 David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov -Original Message- From:

RE: DCVA test connection

2010-05-11 Thread Autry, David
And where in 25 does it say I have to prove anything? NFPA 25 (2002, Edition) 12.6.2.2 All backflow devices installed in fire protection water supply shall be tested annually at the designed flow rate of the fire protection system, including required hose stream demands. Somehow you need to

Foam

2010-04-15 Thread Autry, David
Just for curiosity, what does a gallon of 3% AFFF cost? I just need a ballpark figure. Thanks, David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov

RE: Foam

2010-04-15 Thread Autry, David
...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Autry, David Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 12:19 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Foam Just for curiosity, what does a gallon of 3% AFFF cost? I just need a ballpark figure. Thanks, David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S

RE: Foam

2010-04-15 Thread Autry, David
-7926 -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Autry, David Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:29 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Foam Thank you very much, just what I needed

RE: abandoned pipe

2010-04-08 Thread Autry, David
NFPA 1 (2003, Edition) 4.5.8.2 Existing life safety features obvious to the public, if not required by the Code, shall be either maintained or removed. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax

RE: Austin crash

2010-02-22 Thread Autry, David
A picture from the next day clearly shows a sprinkler still running and with a good spray pattern. Apparently the Austin FD let the system run all night long. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax

RE: Gas systems replacing sprinklers

2010-02-09 Thread Autry, David
Look at NFPA 101 (2000, edition) 9.7.3.1 In any occupancy where the character of the potential fuel for fire is such that extinguishment or control of fire is effectively accomplished by a type of automatic extinguishing system other than an automatic sprinkler system, such as water mist,

RE: FM Global Data Sheet 2-5

2010-02-05 Thread Autry, David
Look at 2.1.7 Provide sprinkler protection in concealed areas, such as attics. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov

RE: Accidental Fusing

2010-02-05 Thread Autry, David
July + Kansas + 212f sprinkler = water discharge I'm betting it was the heat of the day that did. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address:

RE: Bucket test

2009-12-21 Thread Autry, David
I've heard of it, seen the video, now it's being discussed here. Where is the requirement for a bucket test? David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov

RE: Calcs-How much margin

2009-11-30 Thread Autry, David
I would approve it. I would also check the calculations VERY, VERY close. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov -Original

RE: Sprinkler regulations in Nebraska

2009-11-17 Thread Autry, David
Shannon, There is no requirement for a PE on sprinkler plans. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov -Original Message- From:

RE: Hose Allowance

2009-11-17 Thread Autry, David
Second definition in my dictionary Tank: 2. a natural or artificial pool, pond, or lake. Going up in Texas we always call the pond on a ranch, a stock tank. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax

RE: QR vs SSP sprinklers in LH vs OH delivery

2009-11-09 Thread Autry, David
] On Behalf Of Autry, David Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:03 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: QR vs SSP sprinklers in LH vs OH delivery I got an old grocery store (OH GR II), which is being bought and turned into office space with cubicles (LH). So according to this thread

RE: mercantile area in a bar

2009-10-27 Thread Autry, David
The difference between OH II and Light would be 28.8 gallons of water. Does 29 gallons make an impact on the project? David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address:

RE: mercantile area in a bar

2009-10-27 Thread Autry, David
Thank you. If you can't get under the curve because of hose allowance, then I'd have you provide OH II for the room and reduce the hose allowance to obtain a safety factor. I don't see many projects where 29 gallons make an impact. On the few that I do see we have allowed a reduction in hose

RE: Retaining rod on UG

2009-10-20 Thread Autry, David
I've have a picture of 24 UG pipe being held with 2 (two) 3/4 rods. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list

RE: STAGGER SPACING

2009-10-15 Thread Autry, David
NBFU No. 13 - June, 1961 4120. Stagger 4121. Light Hazard Occupancy. Sprinklers need not be staggered except that under open wood joist construction sprinklers should be stagger spaced if the distance between the sprinklers on the branch lines exceeds 12 feet. 4122. Ordinary Hazard Occupancy.

RE: Inadequate Water

2009-09-24 Thread Autry, David
I'll add a closing note as well. When I see a system calculated to the curve, I tend to check the calculations a lot closer for correct pipe lengths, number of fittings, valves, etc. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508

RE: Water curtains for windows

2009-09-23 Thread Autry, David
International Drive PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 craig.pr...@ch2m.com http://www.ch2m.com -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Autry, David Sent: Tuesday

RE: Post Indicators

2009-09-23 Thread Autry, David
Can't use ball valves per NFPA 24 (2002, Edition) 6.1.2 Indicating valves shall not close in less than 5 seconds when operated at maximum possible speed from the fully open position. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508

RE: Post Indicators

2009-09-23 Thread Autry, David
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Autry, David Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:33 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Post Indicators Can't use ball valves per NFPA 24 (2002, Edition) 6.1.2 Indicating valves shall not close in less than 5 seconds when

RE: draft line from suction tank.

2009-09-22 Thread Autry, David
I seen similar connections on a few ethanol plants here in Nebraska. These plants usually have very large tanks, 250k and larger and underground loops with hydrants. The hose demands were figured into tank sizing. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th

RE: Water curtains for windows

2009-09-22 Thread Autry, David
Somewhere, somehow, somebody told some architects and engineers that they can use water curtains in lieu of fire-rated construction. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new

RE: Water curtains for windows

2009-09-22 Thread Autry, David
...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Autry, David Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:58 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Water curtains for windows Somewhere, somehow, somebody told some architects and engineers that they can use water curtains in lieu of fire-rated construction

RE: Chewable topic.....Omegas

2009-09-17 Thread Autry, David
If I remember correctly, the Omegas wouldn't open at 7 psi. The one I set off from my collection seems to stick on the o-ring, but otherwise worked fine. If you only have 7 psi on your sprinklers, you've got bigger problems than sticky o-rings. (see sawmill from yesterday's post) David Autry

RE: Express Drain

2009-08-06 Thread Autry, David
NFPA 13 (2002, Edition) 6.1.1.5 Components that do not affect system performance such as drain piping, drain valves and signs shall not be required to be listed. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax

RE: pipe stands

2009-08-04 Thread Autry, David
The old Grinnell Fig. 258 is now an Anvil 258 and it is approved to a couple of Federal spec's and a couple of ANSI spec's. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email

RE: Old, old sprinkler

2009-07-29 Thread Autry, David
World War II David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org

RE: Old, old sprinkler

2009-07-29 Thread Autry, David
It's just like the zinc pennies in my collection. The brass and copper for shells and bullets. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov

RE: Old, old sprinkler

2009-07-29 Thread Autry, David
I meant steel pennies. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov -Original Message- From:

RE: Variation on Sprinkler Save

2009-07-20 Thread Autry, David
New type of sprinkler. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov -Original Message- From:

RE: Variation on Sprinkler Save

2009-07-20 Thread Autry, David
I wonder what the cost per square foot is for indoor plumbing. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov -Original Message-

RE:

2009-06-02 Thread Autry, David
1961 NBFU has 6 Sections David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov -Original Message- From:

RE:

2009-06-02 Thread Autry, David
Maybe they are using The Code of Hammurabi. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov -Original Message- From:

RE: State of Maine

2009-04-15 Thread Autry, David
I believe he's off just by about 65 years. In 1874 Parmelee installed his first system. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov

RE: State of Maine

2009-04-15 Thread Autry, David
in the U.S., 1864, for the first automatic sprinkler then 1878 for Parmelee and the first practical sprinkler. Maybe the women is referring to the cask of water and gunpowder. I don't want that one either }:-) On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Autry, David david.au...@nebraska.gov wrote: I believe

RE: 100ft from FDC to hydrant?

2009-04-09 Thread Autry, David
Ever hear of a save because the water supply into the building was impaired and the arriving fire dept. used the FDC as the secondary supply? Never have. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax

RE: 100ft from FDC to hydrant?

2009-04-08 Thread Autry, David
I think the only requirement in NFPA is in 14. 100 ft. 6.3.5.4 David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov -Original Message-

RE: Recalled Sprinkler Heads

2009-04-03 Thread Autry, David
I don't believe any GEM sprinklers were recalled. Central (Tyco) had a volunteer replacement program. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address:

RE: Recalled Sprinkler Heads CPRRECTION

2009-04-03 Thread Autry, David
This is from the Globe website. *NOTE: This voluntary recall is for model J dry sprinklers ONLY and does not include model JN sprinklers. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov **

RE: Does NFPA 13 require as-built drawings

2009-03-26 Thread Autry, David
Along that same line: Why is the quality of plastic drawings always less than steel drawings? I always fought with my bosses over this. NFPA Chapter 14 (2002, Edition) makes has no different requirement for the two. Should I disapprove plastic drawings (think - cocktail napkins) that do not

RE: Does NFPA 13 require as-built drawings

2009-03-26 Thread Autry, David
Sprinkler 21605 N. Central Ave Phoenix, AZ 85024 P: 623.580.7836 F: 623.434.3420 C: 602.763.4160 -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Autry, David Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:03 AM

CPVC vs Steel

2009-03-26 Thread Autry, David
to list. Ron Fletcher Aero Automatic Sprinkler Phoenix, AZ 85024 -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Autry, David Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:21 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE

RE: Does NFPA 13 require as-built drawings

2009-03-26 Thread Autry, David
that isn't there because you're not using one. I think the list of 44 could be improved. On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Autry, David david.au...@nebraska.gov wrote: CPVC is not prefabricated like steel pipe so we don't bother with the same level of shop drawing detail. Understood. NFPA

RE: Hydraulics

2009-03-02 Thread Autry, David
Tom, I'd tell him you were taught hydraulics by Mr. Hazen and Mr. Williams. From what I can see in NFPA 13 (2002) 14.4.4.5 (4) is the only place that tells you what fittings go where. Tee at the top of the riser nipple shall be included on the branchline; tee at the main shall be included in

RE: Residential systems in California

2009-02-20 Thread Autry, David
Check the annex, and look at the Calculation Sheet. Like someone said, it's not rocket science. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov

RE: Information regarding Beijing's The Mandarin Oriental Hotel fire

2009-02-11 Thread Autry, David
I read somewhere, that fireworks started it. Lunar New Year. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: david.au...@nebraska.gov -Original Message- From:

RE: FDC TO HYDRANT DISTANCE

2009-01-08 Thread Autry, David
The only requirement that I know of is in NFPA 14 (2003) 6.3.5.4 FDC shall be within 100 feet of a hydrant. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address:

Apartment Building

2009-01-07 Thread Autry, David
I think I know this but I want to verify. Two story apartment building on top of a parking garage. Can the garage be protected with a 13 System and the apartments on top be a 13R System? David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508

RE: Fire Pump Controller

2008-12-08 Thread Autry, David
NFPA 20 (1999, Edition) 7-3.4.4 A fire pump controller shall not be used as a junction box to supply other equipment. Electrical supply conductors for pressure maintenance (jockey or make-up) pump(s) shall not be connected to the fire pump controller. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State

RE: Slippery Slope

2008-11-13 Thread Autry, David
Or quote NFPA 13 2002 Edition 11.2.3.2.2.1 The densities and areas provided in Figure 11.2.3.1.5 are for use only with spray sprinklers. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new

RE: NFPA 14

2008-11-12 Thread Autry, David
://www.ch2m.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Autry, David Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:44 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: NFPA 14 Speaking of Standpipes, NFPA 14 (2003, Edition) 7.3.2 (1) Class I standpipe systems shall

RE: Standpipe pipe schedule

2008-11-06 Thread Autry, David
NFPA 14 (2003) 7.8.2.2 Pipe schedule designs shall be limited to wet standpipes for buildings that are not high-rise buildings. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email

RE: Closets / cabinets

2008-11-05 Thread Autry, David
Yeah I know! The Tri angle of fire is OLD School, and someday it will be the Obelisk of fire, but I hope by then to have been put to the flame for the last time. Actually it's a Tetrahedron. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508

RE: Placard fact check

2008-10-15 Thread Autry, David
Why does a pipe scheduled system have a hydraulic placard in the first place? David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-

Water Supply

2008-09-30 Thread Autry, David
A smart architect.. That's pretty funny for a Tuesday morning. This question is for the AHJ's or anybody that what to chime in. We have a Haunted House that wants to build under a grandstand of a local dirt-track. Per the code it needs to be sprinkler protected. Since this area is

RE: Water Supply

2008-09-30 Thread Autry, David
We are just trying to help them with a do-able idea. I know it wouldn't be to code, so we would have to make it better than code. In their case, the first responders would already be there in case of an emergency. The house would be torn down after Halloween; they want to make it out of

RE: Water Supply (revised)

2008-09-30 Thread Autry, David
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 2:02 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Water Supply (revised) What about automatic detection, David? Will the piping be pressurized with some sort of alarm? Ed Vining On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Autry, David [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote

RE: Water Supply (revised)

2008-09-30 Thread Autry, David
Subject: RE: Water Supply (revised) From: Autry, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, September 30, 2008 3:13 pm To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Good question, that's why I'm on this forum. They propose a pumper, with a full crew, keeping the system pressurized

RE: From the NAHB Newsletter

2008-09-23 Thread Autry, David
You should see the fight going on at the IIC's website forum. In case you didn't know; residential sprinkler systems are now going to cause mold to grow in your home and the pipe will give you cancer. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln,

RE: From the ICC Bulletin Board...

2008-09-23 Thread Autry, David
Like someone said, the battle has been won, but not the war. At least 50 more battles on the horizon. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Help!! Sprinkler in Planetarium

2008-09-10 Thread Autry, David
Start with checking with the AHJ see what k-factor they require Why in the hell would an AHJ be giving a k-factor? Does this even make sense? I would tell you to provide coverage per the code, and if it is not in black and white in the code, then have an engineer tell me what/how you are

RE: Help!! Sprinkler in Planetarium

2008-09-10 Thread Autry, David
Of Autry, David Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 7:23 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Help!! Sprinkler in Planetarium Start with checking with the AHJ see what k-factor they require Why in the hell would an AHJ be giving a k-factor? Does this even make sense? I would

RE: Help!! Sprinkler in Planetarium

2008-09-10 Thread Autry, David
. - Original Message - From: Autry, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:22 AM Subject: RE: Help!! Sprinkler in Planetarium Start with checking with the AHJ see what k-factor they require Why in the hell would an AHJ be giving a k

RE: Help!! Sprinkler in Planetarium

2008-09-10 Thread Autry, David
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Autry, David Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:54 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Help!! Sprinkler in Planetarium First, To my knowledge 13 doesn't put a limit on ceiling heights, so the 50' or 25' or 75' doesn't hold water. (pun

RE: Small orifice sprinkler use in paint booth exhaust duct

2008-08-27 Thread Autry, David
14.4.4.6.1 different orifice sizes shall not be used for balancing the system. David Autry Plans Examiner Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office 246 S. 14th Street Lincoln, NE 68508 402-471-9659 402-471-3118 fax www.sfm.ne.gov ** Note new email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original