Re: Combustible Concealed Space-Area Reduction

2016-10-14 Thread Ben Young
Cliff, Code didn't change they are still only required in spaces 36" and less, but with the expanded listings for the newer CC heads from Reliable, Tyco, and Globe you can use them as EC heads in some cases for spaces up to 60" deep, which can come in handy. Benjamin Young On Thu, Oct 13, 2016

Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-14 Thread Barry Levine
Does anyone have a spare 1" male threaded part for the Potter VSR-ST union? I have access to the rest of the switch, but the part needed to screw into my pipe is missing. I'm sure someone has run across a non-operational Potter VSR-ST and is willing to sell me the union piece I am missing,

Re: Combustible Concealed Space-Area Reduction

2016-10-14 Thread Roland Huggins
the prior ones were listed to 36 inches which triggered the issue. Even if you have one that still says 36 inches, the next edition will say you can exceed it (aka supercedes the listing just like they can be used with TJI whereas they are listed just for solid wood joist). Clear as mud??

RE: Ordinary Hazard Attic Spacing

2016-10-14 Thread Brad Casterline
OK Roland thank you very much! This is why you are the PE and I am...u... always getting in over my head :) (things always sound better when i'm alone talking amongst myself) Brad _ From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf

Re: Combustible Concealed Space-Area Reduction

2016-10-14 Thread Roland Huggins
you do not go to the floor below the ceiling in determining the applicable height. Below the ceiling is treated as a totally separate portion of the system with its own design basis. The only exception to this is when your ceiling is not solid like a metal grated mezzanine floor or your using

Re: Monolithic domes

2016-10-14 Thread Ben Young
Well problem solved... Went to a descope meeting and found out we can install everything exposed and surface mounted. CPVC is obviously out since top run it exposed you need a smooth flat horizontal ceiling... Before the meeting another person had recommended aquatherm On Monday, October 10,

RE: Combustible Concealed Space-Area Reduction

2016-10-14 Thread Taylor Schumacher
Thanks for the responses. The concealed space is 4' to 6' in areas and is above a convention center, so if we count to the floor we exceed the 20' max ceiling height. Wasn't aware of the CC sprinklers allowing 60 inch spacing but draft stopping an area this big makes me cringe. We were able to

Re: Ordinary Hazard Attic Spacing

2016-10-14 Thread Roland Huggins
A big ole negative on that expectation and other than extra hazard II, this has nothing to do with the classification. Even then it isn’t the source of ignition but more the ignitability (aka flammable liquids). Nonetheless, lets look at this scenario (so when this discussion comes up with a

RE: Combustible Concealed Space-Area Reduction

2016-10-14 Thread John Corcoran
Some input from our tech team: While NFPA 13 "requires" that specially tested and listed sprinklers be used in combustible concealed spaces 36" and less, the special listed sprinklers are not required for spaces greater than 36". Standard coverage, QR sprinklers would be allowed, and the area

Re: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-14 Thread Barry Levine
Thank you Mike. I called again, and your email to your tech support made it a smooth operation. Though I was originally told that part wasn't available separate from the unit, they agreed to send one out to me. Thanks again, Barry On 10/14/2016 7:47 AM, Mike Henke wrote: Barry, Did you

RE: Seeking false water flow alarm suggestions

2016-10-14 Thread Mike Henke
Barry, Did you call Potter's tech support? We routinely, at no charge, send out parts and pieces of products that are allowed to be field replaced. If all you need is the 1" male threaded part of the VSR-ST, call our tech Support at; 1-866-956-1211 and tell them you need the plastic bushing

RE: Monolithic domes

2016-10-14 Thread Steve Leyton
All this to-do about PEX and someone recommended polypropylene? Anyway, good that you can run it exposed – you going to use seamless SS? Happy Friday everyone … SL From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ben Young Sent: Friday, October 14,