set of JSP tags. That's where
the real rub lies, IMHO.
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be whether they support servlet 2.4 for Struts 2.x :)
Pity the world can't download Tomcat and be done it :( :)
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:53:55 +0100, Filippo Munafò
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Ted Husted wrote:
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So, there are pros and cons both ways, of course. Now we just need
to make a decision and move on it. ;-)
The consensus seems to be to use a single module with top-level-directories
ready to
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My only feeling is that should we start inviting some of the popular extensions to
join us, the module approach seems like it would scale better.
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:53:55 +0100, Filippo Munafò wrote:
Perfect! What you did in JSF is exatcly what we need:
the controller servlet automatically
(as opposed to a contrib basis) before
promotion. And yes, I'm willing to make the change when I have the time to
do it. ;-)
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implementation
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Emne: Making Struts Build Easier (Re: coming out for JSF + Struts,
was: Struts JSR?)
For me, the main
also likely need to have some discussions with
the incubator folks.
But, as you say, let's get our own house in order first, and then come
back and talk about this some more.
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Ted Husted wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:36:37 -0700, Matt Raible wrote:
While it's great to break out things into separate modules - I'd
love to be able to get
of the things other frameworks use.
Such as? What kinds of innovations are you looking for, and specifically
what kinds of things are you seeing other frameworks use that Struts could
benefit from?
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but I'm wondering about that last
'legacy'.
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We were already getting ready to change things around. And we *do* need to move
things around if we are ever going to get away from a monolithic Struts to a
modular Struts, were people can assemble the Struts platform they need for their
application. If not now
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Ted Husted wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 00:07:28 -0800, Steve Raeburn wrote:
Option 1 works for me. Simplest thing that could possibly work. As
you've said, we can always change things around later.
The problem
of internal changes we'll want to
make as well, but I'm not trying to address those here.)
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Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Optional: Move to Jira (IMO, now's as good a time as any.)
One thing I've noticed about Jira is that attachments cannot be deleted
general developers, only members of the Jira admin group.
Not sure
://wiki.apache.org/gump/Drafts/ProjectBylaws
It might be worth perusing for additional ideas. (I'm planning on doing
some perusing of it myself when I have some time.)
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On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Ted Husted wrote:
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 19:20:54 -0800 (PST), Martin Cooper wrote:
I'll be putting
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
The following is a set of proposed changes to the Apache infrastructure to
accommodate the Struts move to an Apache top level project. The idea is to
come up with a single agreed-upon set of changes that we can submit to the
infrastructure folks
that it has become sufficiently popular to turn into
a de facto standard is nice, but that's secondary to (most of) us, and not
why we're here.
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;). It's slightly easier if we have only one repo, but it
can still be done across repos.
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I'm interested in getting the Struts Chain stuff mainstreamed, but
like I said, this may very well not be the weekend I start on it. In
any case, I figured a branch would be cause
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
Miscellaneous comments intermixed.
Quoting Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The following is a set of proposed changes to the Apache infrastructure to
accommodate the Struts move to an Apache top level project. The idea is to
come up
that it's not too far from being released. (Of course, the
latter condition will affect a vote to promote it in the first place!)
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Nah, you just type a little faster than I do. ;-)
I'll be putting together a list, shortly, of what needs to happen next for
us to fully graduate. Stay tuned...
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Arron
concerned.
Please find attached our proposed board resolution.
Submitted on behalf of the Struts community by:
Craig R. McClanahan
Ted Husted
Rob Leland
Cedric Dumoulin
Martin Cooper
Arron Bates
James Holmes
David M. Karr
David Graham
James Mitchell
Steve Raeburn
Don Brown
or another
Excellent. Now I don't have to modify the resolution at all. ;-)
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Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:47:05 -0800 (PST)
To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Struts
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig, Ted
and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors [2],
along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache
top-level project (TLP
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Arron Bates wrote:
Ooops, just missed it. :)
Not at all. I won't be sending the proposal to the board until the
weekend, so now that you've responded, you're in. :-)
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in Commons Collections. I
think this should do what you want.
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/collections/apidocs/org/apache/commons/collections/list/LazyList.html
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on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice
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[2] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp
PMC. I apologise for missing
your name off the list - it should have been on both from the start.
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It's probably obvious by now, but just wanted to confirm that the CVS tree
is no longer frozen. Now we can get those pending commits dealt with. ;-)
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From
. I can't
think of a good reason to move tags, other than to tweak things as part of
the release process, and only the RM should be doing that.
Now, where can we document this? ;-)
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release.
Once feedback has been collected on the stability and general quality of
this build, a determination will be made as to whether it should be
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
The release is built, but I have a couple of problems.
1) My ISP has gone flaky on me, and I haven't been able to upload it to
minotaur. They claim the problems should be fixed tomorrow, so hopefully
I'll be able to upload it then.
The release
tonight. And thanks for catching it!
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I tried 1.2.0 in AppFuse and all tests pass! Nice work gents. I didn't
even have to modify any files - my last Struts update was December 2,
2003.
Matt
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Sent
to ask that people not change the build files until
I get it rebuilt with Struts-EL included (hopefully this evening), in case
I need to make changes there. However, you can consider the tree open for
other changes, to be included in 1.2.1 (i.e. please don't move the tags).
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OK. Hopefully, this one will be OK and
I can go ahead and announce it to both lists.
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
The release is built, but I have a couple of problems.
1) My ISP has gone flaky on me, and I haven't
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Ted Husted wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 22:38:24 -0800 (PST), Martin Cooper wrote:
Actually, with this new release strategy, where should the
announcement message go, since it's not a Final release? The same
lists, or a subset? Thoughts?
Following Craig's description
Please hold off on all checkins until the release is done.
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, with this new release strategy, where should the announcement
message go, since it's not a Final release? The same lists, or a subset?
Thoughts?
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Please hold off on all checkins until the release is done.
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a Houston, we have lift-off
message) before updating your source tree.
(It turns out that I have a social engagement today also, so I can't take
care of this before tag/freeze either.)
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Paul Sundling
David Graham wrote:
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One
, everything seems to
start up OK, but then it just sits there doing nothing. I'd really like to
get past that point, if anyone has any ideas...
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(Has anyone tried running the Struts cactus tests with Maven? I had
gotten it to the point where most of the tests passed, and the ones
there first.
Yes, I would also suggest going with the Python version. It's seen
considerably more usage, across Apache, than the Java one has at this point,
so is more likely to have had the wrinkles ironed out.
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to break it. Anyone have any ideas? Obviously, I don't want to
create a release and not be able to run the tests!
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of the old apps around, but not enough
for them to build.
What still needs to happen before this is all in place, and we can put a
1.2.0 release together?
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Like I said, I'm confused now...
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, because it makes it clear where our
potential dependencies are, as well as how extensive they are.
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This would similar to the approach we are trying with commons-resources: Release the
code, copy the code, release the code again, *then* move the dependency.
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that it would make a significant
difference, or are you going on basis that this is obvious?
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thanks,
nishant.
On Sun, 2004-02-15 at 07:41, Martin Cooper wrote:
Rather than add a new string utility class to Struts, which isn't really
where it should belong, I think we'd be better
. The whole point of Commons is to avoid
duplication, so why are people pushing back against using the successful
components that we helped create here in Struts?
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Rather than add a new string utility class to Struts, which isn't
lsd.student.utwente.nl?
There is no Apache hardware (yet) for Gump runs. The lsd machine is one that
Leo Simons has set up to run Gump and send the nag messages. There are plans
to dedicate a machine to Gump once we get the hardware in place (which
should be fairly soon).
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(on the commons-dev list) adding a
variation of your StringHolder class, based on the join() method above, to
Commons Lang.
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Subject: string
, you'll find that there has been considerable
discussion on this in the past, and that I vetoed it in the past. I will
continue to veto a change such as this, or the alternative below for the
same reasons - we support HTML 4.01 attributes, no more, and no less.
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...or args
is
invariably the cause for these type of requests), you shouldn't get any
help from Struts.
+1. Or is that -1. How does one support a -1? ;-) For once, I agree with
you seems to be a somewhat more concise way of saying what I mean. :-)
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Joe
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Struts parses these files, and wants to do a validating parse. We need
local copies so that we're not forced to retrieve them across the net.
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Two main browsers since version 4 is pretty good support. If it's
supported even in Safari and Opera or other, less common browsers, then
I would say that's wide enough browser support to definitely consider.
Of course, that's irrelevant if we're coding to spec
to see that enabled as a standard feature.
Making it optional / configurable might be a viable alternative, at least
for now, if other people really feel a need for this feature in 1.2.0.
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I can use context-relative html:rewrite as soon as you check it in --
I was just wrestling
head, but I agree it's a good idea.
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Paul Sundling
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If the group was interested in removing all author tags and
consolidating all the names onto volunteer.html I would be willing to
make a tar
Is there a reason for removing Cedric's copyright? As I understand it,
based on the language in the CLA, Cedric is entitled to keep his own
copyright there, if he so desires.
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rleland 2004/01/07 13:14:40
Modified:web
if any of them are open
source. If not, I might have to write one, but it shouldn't be that hard.
Comments?
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Modified:src/share/org/apache/struts/taglib/bean WriteTag.java
Log
container now, you may have problems even after
Struts compiles successfully.)
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On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Anand Stephen wrote:
Greetings,
Wish you all a very happy new year!
I am trying to compile the latest source of struts I have attached the error log.
Any help would be appreciated
proposing this as a post-1.2.0 change?
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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Don Brown wrote:
What if we extracted the creation of Actions and ActionForms (including
DynaActionForms) into an ActionFactory, overridable by the user?
Here's the problem as I see it: there is no simple way for a user
.
(But other committers may feel differently, of course.)
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Hablutzel, Robert wrote:
I haven't heard any response to this enhancement request. To recap,. the
idea is to add the ability for the html tags to be configured via a
supplied bean - the properties
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I haven't had a chance to catch up completely, but the outage this weekend
suggests an after-Christmas 1.2.0 release, unfortunately - at least, if I
need to be involved. (If not, great - go for it!)
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Ted Husted wrote:
OK, here's what we have
* Release
definition of each target is hard work (this is true when
using extension too), because most of pages of a module works on the same
page layout.
It's not hard work at all if you make use of 'extends'. ;-)
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If this can't be done, we could use the last word of the definition name
the syntax. If we could make those files look like Struts config
files (or vice versa, for that matter), that would help, though.
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- Use XML Schema over DTD's. Give struts config its own default namespace
to make it easier for users to mix in elements of other namespaces
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
Quoting Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Just to add a few more off the top of my head:
* Make the Struts core independent of the Servlets spec and the Portlets
spec, so that it can be used for both, and more.
* Separate view
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Don Brown wrote:
Is there one? I have several ideas I'd like to toss into the discussion.
Yep. This is it.
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On 17 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
husted 2003/12/17 12:49:28
Added: contrib/struts-jericho README.txt
of Struts 2.0? Or do we let
whatever falls out just fall out and deal with it later?
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Don Brown wrote:
Ok, I wasn't sure as I didn't want to distract from the onging 1.2.x
release work. :) I'll throw out some ideas here, then develop them later
in the wiki
rules require a vote, while the HTTPD rules do
not. I suspect that this vote may be sufficient, but I'll check when I get
a chance.
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Ted Husted wrote:
I've amended the date on the (now venerable) 1.2.0 release plan for this
weekend.
http
Decision Making, in the section on Release Testing, is the
following statement:
Majority approval is required before the release can be made.
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/decisions.html
So, we do need to vote on each and every release.
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Ted
://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html#20031203.1
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The Struts team has voted in Joe Germuska as a new committer, with the
following results:
+1:
Martin Cooper
Don Brown
David Graham
James Mitchell
Robert Leland
Steve Raeburn
Craig McClanahan
Ted Husted
-1:
None
The voting thread is here:
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse
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bandied about on infrastructure@ several times. Right
now, they're in the process of procuring some serious new hardware for
Apache. Once that's in place, I wouldn't be surprised to see an Apche repo
for Maven (amongst other) builds. That would make a lot of folks happy.
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Apache site.
For an automated build process to be trustworthy, it would either have to
do that same verification automatically (unlikely, IMHO) or obtain its
dependencies from an Apache server. That means an Apache repo, as Steve
suggested.
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Steve Raeburn wrote:
http
that get in the way of a 1.2.0 release.
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For maintenance purposes, the live documentation is still in docs. Don't
bother trying to maintain xdocs yet. I hope we'll be able to translate
the docs in place maintain the history.
I'm not sure the end is in sight yet, but I'm now more
After copying my local Validator build to Maven's repo, I get the same as
you do - no tests to run.
Doing the Ant test.junit thing, I get the TestActionConfigMatcher failure,
but it looks like Steve has tracked that one down.
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, James Mitchell wrote:
On Thu
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Good point, thanks for solving the mystery. I've updated the test to not
depend on the hashmap order.
Cool. Works for me. :-)
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I'm also getting a failure on TestActionConfigMatcher (using Ant build):
Name isn't
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Modified:src/share/org/apache/struts/util MessageResources.java
Log:
Make sure getMessage(String) goes through the local implementation,
rather
than bypassing it and therefore
before we get to GA. But, I'd like to start the ball rolling.
+1 to all of that.
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Martin Cooper wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Ted Husted wrote:
With the long weekend coming up, I was thinking of rolling up my sleeves
and doing whatever needs to be done to cut 1.2.0.
Funny you should bring that up. I'm planning on spending a good chunk
It sounds like you might have re-invented (aspects of) Spring:
http://www.springframework.org/
Perhaps without the explicit IoC part, though. ;-)
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, n. alex rupp wrote:
Hello, all.
I've been meaning to drop in for quite a while. I've been following
been, I
see absolutely no reason that you should expect free publicity from the
ASF, nor do I see why you would even desire that. It could only make you
feel more dirty still.
I fully support Craig's action in updating the Struts site today.
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Vic Cekvenich
I'll work with Scott on this over on pluto-dev, since he's likely not
subscribed to struts-dev (while I am subscribed to pluto-dev).
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Mete Kural wrote:
Hello Struts developers,
Scott Weaver from the Jetspeed and Pluto projects wrote that he tried
or a framework of any kind. The chain config itself (which is not part of
Struts Chain per se) could be considered as a registry of sorts, but it's
quite different to what HiveMind's registry is all about.
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Am I wrong?
.V
it now that we're using Commons FileUpload to do the heavy
lifting.
Just asking up front so that I don't have to go back and remove a boatload
of deprecations if it turns out that somebody wants to keep it. ;-)
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/
coll:mapAdd map=${params} key=param1 value=value1/
coll:mapAdd map=${params} key=param2value2/coll:mapAdd
html:link action=/MyAction name=params
...
/html:link
The map tags could be added to Unstandard at Jakarta Taglibs, if there's
interest.
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(from
be much more
efficient to pass the original StringBuffer to those methods so that they
can append what they need, without requiring the creation, copying and
destruction of multiple StringBuffer and String instances in between.
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I'm sure people on the list who have far more
in the CVS tree.
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-Ted.
David Graham wrote:
I think we could release 1.2 now if there was a release manager. I
don't
have the time to learn and perform the release process right now.
David
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of these. People are *far* more
likely to think of the Parameter in the name as meaning a request
parameter than they are to think of the parameter action mapping
attribute. Perhaps MappingDispatchAction instead?
I am -0 on combining all of this into one action.
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I would prefer to add
certainly wouldn't want.
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Actually, I'd been meaning to raise a question related to this to the
developers -- to achieve this, I copied the processPath method out
of the default RequestProcessor class. I was wondering if we might
agree on a request attribute under which that path
, and the
RequestUtils.forwardURL() method (especially the JavaDoc for the latter).
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There is no contextRelative attribute on the action config so you don't
get
to choose (or change) how your forward works.
Of the three ways of defining forwards that you identified only one
:
org.apache.struts.scaffold.SuccessAction
or, as David pointed out, you could use ForwardAction instead.
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This is a very simple action, but I find it exceptionally useful,
particularly in the early stages of development when it can act as a
placeholder for as-yet
This is a question for the struts-user list. The struts-dev list is for
discussion of the development of Struts itself.
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Hi All,
Does Struts have a standard way to deal
Steve,
I don't have a problem with your patch. As I said in the bug report, I don't
believe we should be fixing the reported problem, but your patch does fix a
backwards compatibility issue with apps that don't use modules, which is
probably a good thing. ;-)
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