At 9:14 PM -0500 3/19/04, Thomas L Roche wrote:
but I'm wondering about that last statement. What prevents Struts
from undergoing the JCP? Are there circumstances under which you
might consider this?
There's a pretty good thread going on at [EMAIL PROTECTED] about
whether Jakarta should use
I'm all for creating a 1.2.x branch so that work can begin on 1.3.x on
HEAD, but I'm firmly against creating that branch on HEAD right now.
I'm convinced. I'm not in a big hurry -- but I'm glad we're having
this discussion.
Commons Chain is still in the sandbox. I feel very strongly that we
Lets take the leads of Sun, JCP and Jakarta at their word, for a
second and then add my .02: If JSF is positioned as better than
Struts (or Spring or WebWork etc.) then I personally would rather use
other platforms entirely and I am on my way moving in that direction
for a few months
The following is a set of proposed changes to the Apache infrastructure to
accommodate the Struts move to an Apache top level project. The idea is to
come up with a single agreed-upon set of changes that we can submit to the
infrastructure folks as a single request, rather than submitting each one
Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Optional: Move to Jira (IMO, now's as good a time as any.)
One thing I've noticed about Jira is that attachments cannot be deleted
general developers, only members of the Jira admin group.
Not sure if that's an issue.
As a general user, I've found Jira
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Mike Kienenberger wrote:
Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Optional: Move to Jira (IMO, now's as good a time as any.)
One thing I've noticed about Jira is that attachments cannot be deleted
general developers, only members of the Jira admin group.
Not sure if
--- Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The following is a set of proposed changes to the Apache infrastructure
to
accommodate the Struts move to an Apache top level project. The idea is
to
come up with a single agreed-upon set of changes that we can submit to
the
infrastructure folks
Like most people, I imagine, I still haven't had time to do more than
give JSF a cursory glance. It's clear that there is some overlap between
JSF and Struts. However, that does not mean that one or other will
simply disappear.
Craig has previously stated that there is still a role for Struts to
All sound good with the following comments:
1. CVS integrates very nicely with my IDE right now (Eclipse/WSAD). I
don't know how well Subversion would integrate and I'd not want to move
if I lost that integration. I'm sure that also applies to other IDEs.
2. Bugzilla/Jira make no difference to
can anybody tell me what is the use of bean:define tag..its really bugging me up
I'm good with any of this, or with any product changes others want, or do not want, to
make. :)
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 09:05:02 -0800 (PST), Martin Cooper wrote:
The following is a set of proposed changes to the Apache
infrastructure to accommodate the Struts move to an Apache top
level project.
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On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 14:23:26 -0600, Bhardwaj, Sharod wrote:
can anybody tell me what is the use of bean:define tag..its really
bugging me up
http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/api/org/apache/struts/taglib/bean/package-summary.html#doc.Creation
sums it up.
If you need further assistance, please
thanx Tedi had it but somehow ignoredbut thanx for ur help :)
-Original Message-
From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 4:20 PM
To: Struts Developers List
Subject: Re: bean:define
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 14:23:26 -0600, Bhardwaj, Sharod wrote:
can
This looks pretty good, Ted. Just a couple of things:
* If we're going to introduce the idea of Struts sub-projects right up
front, then I would prefer to consider these as purely organisational, at
least initially. That is, I'm open to breaking up the code base / docs /
etc. into multiple
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:53:58 -0800, Nadeem Bitar wrote:
If for example JSF 2.0 is available, and Spring Framework is well
integrated with JSF before Struts 2.0 is available, I strongly
believe that struts won't have a place and would lose market shares.
First let's be very clear.
It's *not*
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 14:27:34 -0800 (PST), Martin Cooper wrote:
This looks pretty good, Ted. Just a couple of things:
* If we're going to introduce the idea of Struts sub-projects right
up front, then I would prefer to consider these as purely
organisational, at least initially. That is, I'm
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:32:40 -0800 (PST), Martin Cooper wrote:
If people want to start on 1.3.x, then I'd suggest we all pitch in
and try to get 1.2.1 in shape for release ASAP.
Works for me. There are a couple of tickets with patches that I can try tonight.
If there's anything else on your
On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 17:47 -0500, Ted Husted wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:53:58 -0800, Nadeem Bitar wrote:
If for example JSF 2.0 is available, and Spring Framework is well
integrated with JSF before Struts 2.0 is available, I strongly
believe that struts won't have a place and would
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
The following is a set of proposed changes to the Apache infrastructure to
accommodate the Struts move to an Apache top level project. The idea is to
come up with a single agreed-upon set of changes that we can submit to the
infrastructure folks as a
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Nadeem Bitar wrote:
On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 17:47 -0500, Ted Husted wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:53:58 -0800, Nadeem Bitar wrote:
If for example JSF 2.0 is available, and Spring Framework is well
integrated with JSF before Struts 2.0 is available, I strongly
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 15:59:15 -0800 (PST), Martin Cooper wrote:
Do we want our own announcements@ list? In the past, we've sent
release announcements to the Jakarta announcements list, so I'm
wondering if we want one of our own now, for people who don't want
to subscribe to the Struts -user or
This is well said, Ted. Hopefully this resonates with the community.
At 02:47 PM 3/20/2004, you wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:53:58 -0800, Nadeem Bitar wrote:
If for example JSF 2.0 is available, and Spring Framework is well
integrated with JSF before Struts 2.0 is available, I strongly
Martin Cooper wrote:
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Nadeem Bitar wrote:
On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 17:47 -0500, Ted Husted wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:53:58 -0800, Nadeem Bitar wrote:
If for example JSF 2.0 is available, and Spring Framework is well
integrated with JSF before Struts 2.0 is
Quoting Greg Reddin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Ted Husted wrote:
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:30:08 -0600, Hookom, Jacob wrote:
What I would like to do is develop Struts 2.0 test-first. The idea being we
cold start with a simple application and write just enough of 2.0 to develop
the first page (or
Quoting Joe Germuska [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
We'd like not to subclass ActionServlet, but is really difficult to
do something like this outside the ActionServlet hierarchy mainly
'cause of the call to initConfigDigester(), that's obviously
protected.
The questions are:
- is there a way to
Quoting Joe Germuska [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
At 2:48 PM -0500 3/14/04, Ted Husted wrote:
I'd say we could branch what we have as 1.2 and start thinking of
the HEAD as 1.3.
IMHO, the quickest way to sort out what we need to do with the
Struts-Chain RequestProcessor is to get it out there as
- Original Message -
From: Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 18:09:53 -0500
To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: branching 1.2 and 1.3 and CVS reorg for TLP status
snip /
Meanwhile, I would have no problem with calling for a VOTE on Commons Dev
Quoting Thomas L Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
David Geary spoke on JSF at trijug.org M 15 Mar 04. My notes of
his remarks include
- Is JSF a replacement for Struts? Yes!
- JSF is a standard. Struts will never be a standard.
which I believe to be pretty-nearly-direct quotes. I'm assuming
Miscellaneous comments intermixed.
Quoting Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The following is a set of proposed changes to the Apache infrastructure to
accommodate the Struts move to an Apache top level project. The idea is to
come up with a single agreed-upon set of changes that we can submit
Quoting Steve Raeburn [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Like most people, I imagine, I still haven't had time to do more than
give JSF a cursory glance. It's clear that there is some overlap between
JSF and Struts. However, that does not mean that one or other will
simply disappear.
Craig has previously
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
Quoting Joe Germuska [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
At 2:48 PM -0500 3/14/04, Ted Husted wrote:
I'd say we could branch what we have as 1.2 and start thinking of
the HEAD as 1.3.
IMHO, the quickest way to sort out what we need to do with the
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
Miscellaneous comments intermixed.
Quoting Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The following is a set of proposed changes to the Apache infrastructure to
accommodate the Struts move to an Apache top level project. The idea is to
come up with
On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 20:41 -0800, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
Quoting Thomas L Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
David Geary spoke on JSF at trijug.org M 15 Mar 04. My notes of
his remarks include
- Is JSF a replacement for Struts? Yes!
- JSF is a standard. Struts will never be a
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