: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: JavaServer Faces 1.0 -- Proposed Final Draft Spec and Beta
Reference Implementation
hi jan,
perhaps you must change the sturcuture of build.xml
in my case:
i copied jsf-1.0 beta in to $jwsdp.home
and copied some specified lib into $jwsdp.home too.
e.g
greetings
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From: virupaksha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:36 AM
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Subject: Re: JavaServer Faces 1.0 -- Proposed Final Draft Spec and Beta
Reference Implementation
Dear Craig,
I am working on resin-2.1.9
, January 06, 2004 10:02 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: JavaServer Faces 1.0 -- Proposed Final Draft Spec and Beta
Reference Implementation
Hi Craig,
i just want to try the struts-faces examples.
but i got compilation-error. is there something i
need...?
jwsdp-1.3 is on my box
Hi Craig,
i just want to try the struts-faces examples.
but i got compilation-error. is there something i
need...?
jwsdp-1.3 is on my box.
thanks
--- Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
schrieb:
I'm pleased to announce that the Proposed Final
Draft version of the JavaServer
Faces 1.0
...
and perhaps you must change your user-name/password for tomcat! :-)
try this...
greetings
matthias
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matthias
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From: Jan Dirksen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 10:02 AM
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Subject: Re: JavaServer Faces 1.0 -- Proposed Final
Draft Spec and Beta
Reference Implementation
Hi Craig,
i just want to try
-1.0-doc/intro.html
you need verison 1.0 of taglibs...
now it should work :-)
regards,
matthias
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From: Jan Dirksen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 10:33 AM
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Quoting Jan Dirksen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Craig,
i just want to try the struts-faces examples.
but i got compilation-error. is there something i
need...?
jwsdp-1.3 is on my box.
Without knowing the details of your error messages, it's pretty difficult to
tell exactly what is going on,
Quoting Jan Dirksen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
oh good morning...
thank you! :-)
okay i can deploy it via tomcat-manager
but when i start the jsf-cardemo
i got this error:
org.apache.jasper.JasperException: This absolute uri
(http://java.sun.com/jstl/core) cannot be resolved in
either
Hi Craig,
thanks for replay!
the workarounds from matthias were helpful!!
(he told me the page with that workarounds you mean)
But after that, we decided to use Tomcat5
because of JSP2.0.
On JSF-Pages i also saw, that future versions
of JSF will take better advantage of JSP 2.0
greetings
Graig,
regarding the struts-faces integration library, would it support tiles?
On 金, 2003-12-19 at 20:16, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
I'm pleased to announce that the Proposed Final Draft version of the JavaServer
Faces 1.0 Specification, and a corresponding Beta release of the Reference
Quoting Nadeem Bitar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Graig,
regarding the struts-faces integration library, would it support tiles?
That's the part I'm not quite done wth, but it's definitely the intent.
Craig
On 金, 2003-12-19 at 20:16, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
I'm pleased to announce that the
/Logic functionality.
-Tim
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Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 2:41 PM
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Subject: Re: JavaServer Faces
Chen, Gin wrote:
Since JSF is *supposed* to replace Struts, so to speak,
This statement
have respect for the past.
-Tim
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From: Susan Bradeen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: JavaServer Faces
Thank you, Craig, for the umpteenth time for saying this. Why are so many
people still
Subject: Re: JavaServer Faces
Thank you, Craig, for the umpteenth time for saying this. Why are so
many
people still talking about throwing in the Struts towel?! This is open
source, is it not? Is it not the job of open source to keep ahead of the
standards with great ideas that continue
which is relevant to the community it will continue to be
relevant.
Edgar
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Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 6:25 PM
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Susan Bradeen wrote:
Thank you
FAQ, news, and info
Thank You,
Marty Gainty
http://www.laconiadatasystems.com
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From: Kito D. Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Matt,
This looks like
Chen, Gin wrote:
Since JSF is *supposed* to replace Struts, so to speak,
This statement is *not* a correct understanding of what is happening!
Anyone who claims that doesn't get it.
You should absolutely, positively plan on evaluating the use of
JavaServer Faces components instead of the
functionality.
-Tim
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From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 2:41 PM
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Chen, Gin wrote:
Since JSF is *supposed* to replace Struts, so to speak,
This statement
If I culod sepll this mghit mkae snese.
-Teem
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From: Chen, Gin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 3:09 PM
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See.. Anyone reason that this should be kept public is to correct our
Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
There is a functionality overlap in the core controller role, and
for some people JavaServer Faces will be sufficient by itself.
over-simplification
It's not unlike the situation with the JSTL SQL tags. For very simple
Model 1 applications, these can be sufficient
Thank you, Craig, for the umpteenth time for saying this. Why are so many
people still talking about throwing in the Struts towel?! This is open
source, is it not? Is it not the job of open source to keep ahead of the
standards with great ideas that continue to make our jobs easier, more
Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
Craig (who notes that it took Struts nearly three years to get a wide
breadth of tools support)
Though, the Struts tool explosion coincided with the more general Java
tool explosion. If we have GUIs like today's Eclipse and IntelliJ three
years ago, we would have seen
I think the main point is that JSF is primarily about standard re-usable
user interface components. It has basic controller functionality, but the
UI component side of things is the real focus. Many existing frameworks --
Struts, UIX (Oracle's framework), and others, will continue to add a
: JavaServer Faces
Chen, Gin wrote:
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Susan Bradeen wrote:
Thank you, Craig, for the umpteenth time for saying this. Why are so many
people still talking about throwing in the Struts towel?! This is open
source, is it not? Is it not the job of open source to keep ahead of the
standards with great ideas that continue to make our
Frank Maritato wrote:
So, displaytag is a pretty interesting taglib.
It is very nice, I use it a lot!
Does it need to have the
entire dataset, or can it use an action/controller to lazy load the
information from a datasource (or ejb, or web service, etc.) ?
View layer does not deal with data
Yes, I have an opinion. While some people might not agree with me, it is
still my opinion.
I believe that you should read the spec, try the examples, and see for
yourself.
--
James Mitchell
Software Engineer / Struts Evangelist
http://www.struts-atlanta.org
678.910.8017
770.822.3359
Matt Raible wrote:
It seems that a lot of
Experts are touting that it'll be easy to develop because it's a
*standard* and IDEs will support it.
http://wwws.sun.com/software/products/projectrave/
--
Glenn Holmer
in that
project(ala Web Forms).
Vijay
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From: Matt Raible [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:20 AM
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Subject: RE: JavaServer Faces
I watched a presentation on JSF last night. Here's my high-level
impressions:
1. It's
take them with a grain of salt.
Matt
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From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 6:58 PM
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It's not an either/or decision.
http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/faqs/kickstart.html
them with a grain of salt.
Matt
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From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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It's not an either/or decision.
http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/faqs/kickstart.html#jsf
Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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It's not an either/or decision.
http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/faqs/kickstart.html#jsf
Though, Struts is superior in the sense you can use it in a shipping
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It's not an either/or decision.
http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/faqs/kickstart.html#jsf
Though, Struts is superior in the sense you can use it in a shipping
application. JSF is still
: Thursday, October 09, 2003 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: JavaServer Faces
Matt,
This looks like a great taglib -- I wish I had found it when I was working
on some past projects :-). In the JSF world, this would be a component
that
you would use the same way -- with a simple taglib. I'm assuming
Glenn Holmer wrote:
Matt Raible wrote:
It seems that a lot of
Experts are touting that it'll be easy to develop because it's a
*standard* and IDEs will support it.
http://wwws.sun.com/software/products/projectrave/
As a Sun employee working directly with the Rave team (since it uses
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Glenn Holmer wrote:
Matt Raible wrote:
It seems that a lot of
Experts are touting that it'll be easy to develop because it's a
*standard* and IDEs will support it.
http://wwws.sun.com
Kito D. Mann wrote:
SNIP
The main difference between the component and
taglib approach is that in the component world, all of this
functionality would be implemented by a component/renderer pair. The
component itself would be a JavaBean, so it'd have methods, properties,
and events, and
Vic Cekvenich wrote:
Kito D. Mann wrote:
SNIP
The main difference between the component and taglib approach is that
in the component world, all of this functionality would be
implemented by a component/renderer pair. The component itself would
be a JavaBean, so it'd have methods, properties,
Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
And you even forgot JSR-168 too :-)
Oh yeah, I did not even criticize that! Next time. ;-}
.V
Craig
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It's not an either/or decision.
http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/faqs/kickstart.html#jsf
Though, Struts is superior in the sense you can use it in a shipping
application. JSF is still in early release.
HTH, Ted.
Horky Adam G A1C 805 CSPTS/SCBE wrote:
Does anyone know enough about Struts and
I reckon Craig might know a wee little bit about that ;-)
Why not search the archive and see what he has said about it.
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From: Horky Adam G A1C 805 CSPTS/SCBE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 9 October 2003 03:28
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
This question indeed has be asked before. JSF only covers the frontend portion of an
application, namingly the V and C. The Struts addresses more development issues.
An article on integration Struts and JSF recently appears on the developerWork(IBM)
web (if my memory is correct). That is to
Where's the article? Sorry, can't answer your
questions.
thanks - gene
--- Fedor Smirnoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey guys,
Just read an article on JSF and it sounds pretty
interesting, one problem though, writer says its not
compatible with Struts. Have anyone tried? What do
you
think
Fedor Smirnoff wrote:
Hey guys,
Just read an article on JSF and it sounds pretty
interesting, one problem though, writer says its not
compatible with Struts. Have anyone tried? What do you
think of it, did anyone succeeded in making it work
with Struts.
The article is just plain wrong, and you
Here it is, its not much, just an overview:
http://www.ftponline.com/javapro/2003_04/magazine/columns/weblication/default.asp
Fedor
--- Gene Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Where's the article? Sorry, can't answer your
questions.
thanks - gene
--- Fedor Smirnoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh this is great!! Yes, either they have no idea whats
going on or, JSF cam a long way since article was
published in April
http://www.ftponline.com/javapro/2003_04/magazine/columns/weblication/default.asp
THanks
fedor
--- Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fedor Smirnoff wrote:
Hey guys,
Struts is definitely compatible with JSF. The article you read was
probably narrow in scope. For more articles and information on JSF you
can visit my JSF resources page.
http://www.jamesholmes.com/JavaServerFaces/
-James
http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/
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From:
: JavaServer Faces and Struts
Oh this is great!! Yes, either they have no idea whats
going on or, JSF cam a long way since article was
published in April
http://www.ftponline.com/javapro/2003_04/magazine/columns/webl
ication/default.asp
THanks
fedor
--- Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Fedor Smirnoff wrote:
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:06:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Fedor Smirnoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: JavaServer Faces and Struts
Oh this is great
You'll probably hear this from a lot of people ... Java Server Faces isn't
in the same solution space as Struts. JSF is a UI toolkit, while Struts is a
web application framework, which includes a tag library implementing basic
UI elements. This tag library can easily be replaced to use a different
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From: Mitchell Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: JavaServer Faces
You'll probably hear this from a lot of people ... Java
Server Faces isn't
in the same solution space as Struts. JSF is a UI toolkit,
while Struts is a
web application framework
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JSF isn't final yet so I wouldn't use it for any production projects.
David
From: Mete Kural [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: JavaServer Faces - Is it OK to use it now?
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:39:19 +
Hello,
I'm beginning a new Struts-based
Thanks for you advice.
Do you have any vague estimates on how long it will
take JSF to become suitable for Struts-based
production applications?
a) 2-3 months
b) 4-6 months
c) 6-12 months
d) more than 1 year
Thanks,
Mete
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To
I'd really like to hear about the overlap and integration between Struts
and JSF also.
david
Sandra Cann wrote:
Craig,
You'd mentioned in one email on this list more news when JSR-127
eventually goes to public draft.
Now that that's happened I was wondering if you might tell us more about
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, João Guilherme Del Valle wrote:
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 16:58:23 -0300
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Subject: JavaServer Faces?
Craig,
I looked
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