Re: Imaginary profiles in Mozilla and SeaMonkey

2009-06-02 Thread John Doue

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:


On 31.05.2009 18:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

Just upgraded from Moz 1.7.13 to SM 1.1.16, and before doing so I ran 
Mozilla's profile manager to clean up any extraneous entries. It 
prompted me to choose between my current profile and an imaginary one 
that AFAICT no longer exists. When I told it to delete the imaginary 
one, it said it had been created by a previous version of Navigator 
and could only be removed by that program (probably v. 4.5 or so!) -- 
but of course it was willing to delist it, so I did that.


When I completed the SeaMonkey installation, the new profile manager 
did the same thing -- asked me to choose between a real and imaginary 
profile, then agreed to delist the imaginary one.


I've searched and searched my computer and can't find any remnant of 
the imaginary profile to remove, so what gives? What do I need to 
clean up before the profile managers will stop detecting it?


Thanks.



Check Profiles.ini in the profiles directory.


No such file anywhere on my computer.


Could it be it is hidden and Windows does not display it?

It is normally located on c:\documents and settings\..\application 
data\application data\mozilla\seamonkey. (with ... standing for user's 
name).


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Re: Imaginary profiles in Mozilla and SeaMonkey

2009-06-02 Thread John Doue

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

John Doue wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 

Jay Garcia wrote:


On 31.05.2009 18:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

Just upgraded from Moz 1.7.13 to SM 1.1.16, and before doing so I 
ran Mozilla's profile manager to clean up any extraneous entries. 
It prompted me to choose between my current profile and an 
imaginary one that AFAICT no longer exists. When I told it to 
delete the imaginary one, it said it had been created by a 
previous version of Navigator and could only be removed by that 
program (probably v. 4.5 or so!) -- but of course it was willing to 
delist it, so I did that.


When I completed the SeaMonkey installation, the new profile 
manager did the same thing -- asked me to choose between a real and 
imaginary profile, then agreed to delist the imaginary one.


I've searched and searched my computer and can't find any remnant 
of the imaginary profile to remove, so what gives? What do I need 
to clean up before the profile managers will stop detecting it?


Thanks.



Check Profiles.ini in the profiles directory.


No such file anywhere on my computer.


Could it be it is hidden and Windows does not display it?

It is normally located on c:\documents and settings\..\application 
data\application data\mozilla\seamonkey. (with ... standing for user's 
name).


Nope. I have Windows Explorer set to show hidden and system files. I 
even tried revealing hidden OS files, no go.


The directory you specify does not exist. C:\...\Mozilla\ has only one 
subdirectory, which is the valid profile, and it contains no other 
files. However, there /is/ a \SeaMonkey directory under C:\Program 
Files\mozilla.org.


My original search, described above, had profiles.ini as the filespec 
and C:\ as the location, with all subdirectories to be searched.


In case it matters, this is WinXP Pro SP3, fully patched.


I hope somebody comes up with a better solution, but I would suggest:

1/ save your regular profile directory, mail, bookmarks
2/ uninstall Seamonkey.
3/ search for and delete all directories whose names include Seamonkey, 
Mozilla or Netscape (in case you ever used Netscape).
4/ search for and deleted all directories which include a bookmarks.* 
file (except of course the backup you just made)
5/ clean your registry using a reputable cleaner (I personally use 
Powertools').
6/ Reinstall SM chosing a different directory for the program and see if 
your problem is solved.


I do not remember how Netscape and Mozilla handled profiles. It might be 
key to solving your problem. I hope Philippe Chee can help here.


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Re: Imaginary profiles in Mozilla and SeaMonkey

2009-06-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

John Doue wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:



Jay Garcia wrote:


On 31.05.2009 18:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

Just upgraded from Moz 1.7.13 to SM 1.1.16, and before doing so I 
ran Mozilla's profile manager to clean up any extraneous entries. It 
prompted me to choose between my current profile and an imaginary 
one that AFAICT no longer exists. When I told it to delete the 
imaginary one, it said it had been created by a previous version of 
Navigator and could only be removed by that program (probably v. 
4.5 or so!) -- but of course it was willing to delist it, so I did 
that.


When I completed the SeaMonkey installation, the new profile manager 
did the same thing -- asked me to choose between a real and 
imaginary profile, then agreed to delist the imaginary one.


I've searched and searched my computer and can't find any remnant of 
the imaginary profile to remove, so what gives? What do I need to 
clean up before the profile managers will stop detecting it?


Thanks.



Check Profiles.ini in the profiles directory.


No such file anywhere on my computer.


Could it be it is hidden and Windows does not display it?

It is normally located on c:\documents and settings\..\application 
data\application data\mozilla\seamonkey. (with ... standing for user's 
name).


Nope. I have Windows Explorer set to show hidden and system files. I 
even tried revealing hidden OS files, no go.


The directory you specify does not exist. C:\...\Mozilla\ has only one 
subdirectory, which is the valid profile, and it contains no other 
files. However, there /is/ a \SeaMonkey directory under C:\Program 
Files\mozilla.org.


My original search, described above, had profiles.ini as the filespec 
and C:\ as the location, with all subdirectories to be searched.


In case it matters, this is WinXP Pro SP3, fully patched.

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Opening an attachment uses current tab in browser

2009-06-02 Thread Lucas Levrel
Hi,

Everything is in the subject... In the mailreader, when I right-click an 
attachment and select Open, it will open in the current tab of the 
browser. I'd expect it to open in a new tab, given my prefs for tabbed 
browsing are:
- open links meant to open a new window in: a new tab in the current 
window
- open links passed from other applications in: a new tab in the current 
window

Any hint? I looked for tab in about:config but couldn't find anything 
relevant (other than the above-mentionned prefs).

Is this a bug?
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Re: Opening an attachment uses current tab in browser

2009-06-02 Thread Mark Hansen
On 06/02/09 06:14, Lucas Levrel wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Everything is in the subject... In the mailreader, when I right-click an 
 attachment and select Open, it will open in the current tab of the 
 browser. I'd expect it to open in a new tab, given my prefs for tabbed 
 browsing are:
 - open links meant to open a new window in: a new tab in the current 
 window
 - open links passed from other applications in: a new tab in the current 
 window
 
 Any hint? I looked for tab in about:config but couldn't find anything 
 relevant (other than the above-mentionned prefs).
 
 Is this a bug?

For what it's worth, I've the same problem with new windows. I have everything
set to open in a new window, but when I open an attachment from within
Mail  Newsgroups, it uses an existing browser window (and replaces the
content that was displayed with the content of the attachment).

I really wish I could get it to just open in a new (not just different)
window!

SeaMonkey 1.1.16, Linux.

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Re: Bookmarks

2009-06-02 Thread Ray_Net

I believe that the solution given for XP-pro is the same for XP.
For me bookmarks.html is located in the directory:
C:\Documents and Settings\RAY\Application 
Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\gt6bfqi6.slt


u...@domain.invalid wrote:


I have the same problem but use XP, is the solution the same ??


Michael Gordon wrote:

Edward Hurst replied On 5/24/2009 4:17 PM

I have seamonkey 1.1.16 and have lost all my bookmarks. How can I 
recover

them?How do I find the file on the computer to open them and print them
to reload them?-Edward Hurst

Well, since you didn't give us much information about your system I 
will have to make a WAG on your system being Windows XP Pro.


Your Bookmarks are stored in your SeaMonkey Profile and in Windows XP 
it is located in:
C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Application 
Data\Mozilla\Profiles\SeaMonkey\.slt


The folder .slt is your SM Profile folder and will contain a 
file named bookmarks.html


If you don't find this in your Profile folder then use Windows 
Start/Search and look for bookmarks.*


You may find bookmarks,html with a number behind it indicating 
multiple copies were made by SM, select the latest copy with the 
largest file size and move it back to your Profile folder.  You may 
have to rename the bookmarks file to read bookmarks.html (NO QUOTES)


Michael

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Re: Opening an attachment uses current tab in browser

2009-06-02 Thread Mark Hansen
On 06/02/09 08:55, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Mark Hansen:
On 06/02/09 06:14, Lucas Levrel wrote:
 
 Any hint? I looked for tab in about:config but couldn't find anything 
 relevant (other than the above-mentionned prefs).
 
 With this preferences i get news tabs when opening attachments ...
 http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ta090602.png (16 KB)
 
For what it's worth, I've the same problem with new windows.
 
 ... and with this preferences i get new windows ...
 http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ta090602-b.png (15 (KB)
 
SeaMonkey 1.1.16, Linux.
 
 ... but i am using SM2.
 
 Hartmut

I have:
  Link Open Behavior: A new window
  Links from other application: A new window.

Hopefully, this will be resolved once Release 2 comes out.

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Re: Opening an attachment uses current tab in browser

2009-06-02 Thread Arne

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Mark Hansen:

On 06/02/09 06:14, Lucas Levrel wrote:


Any hint? I looked for tab in about:config but couldn't find anything 
relevant (other than the above-mentionned prefs).


With this preferences i get news tabs when opening attachments ...
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ta090602.png (16 KB)


For what it's worth, I've the same problem with new windows.


... and with this preferences i get new windows ...
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ta090602-b.png (15 (KB)


SeaMonkey 1.1.16, Linux.


... but i am using SM2.


For what it's worth, I'm still on 1.1.14 and it works for me, links in 
mail/news opens in new tab as I have that set in the preferences.


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Re: Imaginary profiles in Mozilla and SeaMonkey

2009-06-02 Thread Philip Chee
On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:34:19 +0300, John Doue wrote:

 I do not remember how Netscape and Mozilla handled profiles. It might be 
 key to solving your problem. I hope Philippe Chee can help here.

Netscape 6/7 and Mozilla Suite used a binary file registry.dat to keep
track of profiles. Unfortunately this file is not human readable.

Phil

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Re: Opening an attachment uses current tab in browser

2009-06-02 Thread Hartmut Figge
Arne:

For what it's worth, I'm still on 1.1.14 and it works for me, links in 
mail/news opens in new tab as I have that set in the preferences.

Interesting. Then it is either a regression or the others are using
extensions which cause the fault.

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Re: Imaginary profiles in Mozilla and SeaMonkey

2009-06-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

John Doue wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

John Doue wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 

Jay Garcia wrote:


On 31.05.2009 18:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

Just upgraded from Moz 1.7.13 to SM 1.1.16, and before doing so I 
ran Mozilla's profile manager to clean up any extraneous entries. 
It prompted me to choose between my current profile and an 
imaginary one that AFAICT no longer exists. When I told it to 
delete the imaginary one, it said it had been created by a 
previous version of Navigator and could only be removed by that 
program (probably v. 4.5 or so!) -- but of course it was willing 
to delist it, so I did that.


When I completed the SeaMonkey installation, the new profile 
manager did the same thing -- asked me to choose between a real 
and imaginary profile, then agreed to delist the imaginary one.


I've searched and searched my computer and can't find any remnant 
of the imaginary profile to remove, so what gives? What do I need 
to clean up before the profile managers will stop detecting it?


Thanks.



Check Profiles.ini in the profiles directory.


No such file anywhere on my computer.


Could it be it is hidden and Windows does not display it?

It is normally located on c:\documents and 
settings\..\application data\application data\mozilla\seamonkey. 
(with ... standing for user's name).


Nope. I have Windows Explorer set to show hidden and system files. I 
even tried revealing hidden OS files, no go.


The directory you specify does not exist. C:\...\Mozilla\ has only one 
subdirectory, which is the valid profile, and it contains no other 
files. However, there /is/ a \SeaMonkey directory under C:\Program 
Files\mozilla.org.


My original search, described above, had profiles.ini as the 
filespec and C:\ as the location, with all subdirectories to be searched.


In case it matters, this is WinXP Pro SP3, fully patched.


I hope somebody comes up with a better solution, but I would suggest:

1/ save your regular profile directory, mail, bookmarks
2/ uninstall Seamonkey.
3/ search for and delete all directories whose names include Seamonkey, 
Mozilla or Netscape (in case you ever used Netscape).
4/ search for and deleted all directories which include a bookmarks.* 
file (except of course the backup you just made)
5/ clean your registry using a reputable cleaner (I personally use 
Powertools').
6/ Reinstall SM chosing a different directory for the program and see if 
your problem is solved.


I do not remember how Netscape and Mozilla handled profiles. It might be 
key to solving your problem. I hope Philippe Chee can help here.


This is way more trouble than it's worth to me. I told SeaMonkey to 
delist the imaginary profile, it did so, and now it launches without 
asking because there's only one profile.


If there had been a quick and simple solution, I would've happily 
implemented it by now, but this is just too much. Never mind.


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Re: Opening an attachment uses current tab in browser

2009-06-02 Thread Mark Hansen
On 06/02/09 11:11, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Arne:
 
For what it's worth, I'm still on 1.1.14 and it works for me, links in 
mail/news opens in new tab as I have that set in the preferences.
 
 Interesting. Then it is either a regression or the others are using
 extensions which cause the fault.
 
 Hartmut

I think you're jumping to a conclusion too quickly.

For example, I am running on Linux, so it could be a Linux-only issue.

Also, it only takes over an existing browser window if there is one
open. In other words, if you just launch Mail  News and open an
attachment, it will open a new window. It's only after I have existing
browser windows, that I see the problem.

Incidentally, I've seen this problem since way back in the 1.1.X days
(not sure how long ago, but certainly before 1.1.14).

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Re: Opening an attachment uses current tab in browser

2009-06-02 Thread Hartmut Figge
Mark Hansen:
On 06/02/09 11:11, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Arne:

For what it's worth, I'm still on 1.1.14 and it works for me, links in 
mail/news opens in new tab as I have that set in the preferences.
 
 Interesting. Then it is either a regression or the others are using
 extensions which cause the fault.

I think you're jumping to a conclusion too quickly.

Maybe.

For example, I am running on Linux, so it could be a Linux-only issue.

Then the issue should be tested on Linux. On my Gentoo i have SM 1.1.16
and i have just tested. The problem is there.

Also, it only takes over an existing browser window if there is one
open. In other words, if you just launch Mail  News and open an
attachment, it will open a new window. It's only after I have existing
browser windows, that I see the problem.

Well, repeated opening the same attachment should open new windows. And
that doesn't happen. Same thing with tabs.

Incidentally, I've seen this problem since way back in the 1.1.X days
(not sure how long ago, but certainly before 1.1.14).

I have some old SMs on my machine, but i am unable to run them, because
they require libstdc++.so.5 and i don't have that lib anymore after
cleaning up my Gentoo some month ago.

Surely, i could reinstall the lib, but i do not wish so. ;)

Hartmut
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Re: Opening an attachment uses current tab in browser

2009-06-02 Thread Daniel

Arne wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Mark Hansen:

On 06/02/09 06:14, Lucas Levrel wrote:


Any hint? I looked for tab in about:config but couldn't find 
anything relevant (other than the above-mentionned prefs).


With this preferences i get news tabs when opening attachments ...
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ta090602.png (16 KB)


For what it's worth, I've the same problem with new windows.


... and with this preferences i get new windows ...
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ta090602-b.png (15 (KB)


SeaMonkey 1.1.16, Linux.


... but i am using SM2.


For what it's worth, I'm still on 1.1.14 and it works for me, links in 
mail/news opens in new tab as I have that set in the preferences.




SM 1.1.15 on Win98 using dial-up connection.

Just for interest, I clicked on the two links above, and they open in 
two tabs of the one page. Then I compared my prefs setting with those in 
 the first, and mine are the same, except I also have Hide the tab bar 
when only one page open selected and don't have anything selected for 
Open tabs instead of windows for.


Guess I should get my Mandriva Linux dial-in agent working so I can 
check things in Linux (but I seem to remember its the same!!).


Daniel
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Re: SeaMonkey Mail performance problems

2009-06-02 Thread flyguy

Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:

Bob Fleischer wrote:

Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:

Bob Fleischer wrote:
I have been running the latest releases of SeaMonkey (now 1.1.16) on 
what should be a rather hot system -- a Core 2 quad 3.0 GHz system 
running Vista Business 64-bit in 8 GB RAM..  SeaMonkey mail 
performance, especially anything moving messages between folders, is 
really slow (like several seconds to move a message).  I've 
compressed folders and rebuilt indexes and no improvement.  I'm 
using F-PROT anti-virus.  CPU usage according to Task Manager is in 
the single-digit percentage range.


I run SeaMonkey at home with larger folders on a much older system 
with better performance -- but it is Windows XP and different 
anti-virus.


The system disk is defragmented frequently.

What else do I check?

Thanks,
Bob



Long shot, but try turning your anti-virus OFF completely and then 
moving messages... any improvement?


Such a test can indicate if it is anti-virus program releated or not. 
You can disconnect from the internet when you make the test if you 
have a mind to although its not really neccessary.


Well, turning off F-PROT's file system protection does indeed improve 
performance.


Bob


In that case I suggest leaving F-Prot off. It is not really protecting 
you fully in any case.


An anti-virus program is only as good as its 'definintions' file is, and 
regardless of how often it is updated, that file lags behind reality.
For example;  the I Love You virus, which infected over 30 million 
users (biggest infestation in history) was checked by many with the 
latest and greatest AV programs, and came back 'clean'. NONE of the AV 
programs extant at the time could detect the virus until their 
definitions files were updated, and that took three to seven days for 
the AV programs to do.


So, even with F-Prot running, and automatic updating, there is still a 3 
to 7 day 'window' in which you are not protected against a 'new' virus.


So how to protect yourself? Simple.

Do NOT open email attachments  (opening email is fine, just not the 
attachments )

 If you MUST open an attachment
 Save it to disk for a week
 Update your AV program, check the file
 Open/run the attachment

Do NOT open/run files from the web
If yoiu MUST open/run files from the web
Save it to disk for a week
   Update your AV program, check the file
Open/run the file

Use a firewall

Using such a system allows you to run, and be fully protected against 
all malware, regardless of how new it is.  The above system has 
protected ALL my computers since 1992 and has never failed. It has also 
been used by hundreds of users I advised and they never reported an 
infection (at least to me).


Aren't you still vulnerable to drive-by downloads when visiting a 
website, or is SM immune to those?

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Re: SeaMonkey Mail performance problems

2009-06-02 Thread Moz Champion (Dan)

flyguy wrote:

Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:

Bob Fleischer wrote:

Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:

Bob Fleischer wrote:
I have been running the latest releases of SeaMonkey (now 1.1.16) 
on what should be a rather hot system -- a Core 2 quad 3.0 GHz 
system running Vista Business 64-bit in 8 GB RAM..  SeaMonkey mail 
performance, especially anything moving messages between folders, 
is really slow (like several seconds to move a message).  I've 
compressed folders and rebuilt indexes and no improvement.  I'm 
using F-PROT anti-virus.  CPU usage according to Task Manager is in 
the single-digit percentage range.


I run SeaMonkey at home with larger folders on a much older system 
with better performance -- but it is Windows XP and different 
anti-virus.


The system disk is defragmented frequently.

What else do I check?

Thanks,
Bob



Long shot, but try turning your anti-virus OFF completely and then 
moving messages... any improvement?


Such a test can indicate if it is anti-virus program releated or 
not. You can disconnect from the internet when you make the test if 
you have a mind to although its not really neccessary.


Well, turning off F-PROT's file system protection does indeed improve 
performance.


Bob


In that case I suggest leaving F-Prot off. It is not really protecting 
you fully in any case.


An anti-virus program is only as good as its 'definintions' file is, 
and regardless of how often it is updated, that file lags behind reality.
For example;  the I Love You virus, which infected over 30 million 
users (biggest infestation in history) was checked by many with the 
latest and greatest AV programs, and came back 'clean'. NONE of the AV 
programs extant at the time could detect the virus until their 
definitions files were updated, and that took three to seven days for 
the AV programs to do.


So, even with F-Prot running, and automatic updating, there is still a 
3 to 7 day 'window' in which you are not protected against a 'new' virus.


So how to protect yourself? Simple.

Do NOT open email attachments  (opening email is fine, just not the 
attachments )

 If you MUST open an attachment
 Save it to disk for a week
 Update your AV program, check the file
 Open/run the attachment

Do NOT open/run files from the web
If yoiu MUST open/run files from the web
Save it to disk for a week
   Update your AV program, check the file
Open/run the file

Use a firewall

Using such a system allows you to run, and be fully protected against 
all malware, regardless of how new it is.  The above system has 
protected ALL my computers since 1992 and has never failed. It has 
also been used by hundreds of users I advised and they never reported 
an infection (at least to me).


Aren't you still vulnerable to drive-by downloads when visiting a 
website, or is SM immune to those?



[Tools--Options]*--Navigator--Downloads

Either choose Open the download manager or open a process dialog
in this manner you are kept informed at the very least.

You should also have a set place to download to as well

If a site attempts to download something, without asking first, then I 
would kill the download and leave said site. I would also report the 
site to its host.


In any case, even if it does by some strange circumstance get downloaded
then the rule still applies

Do NOT open/run files from the web


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Re: SeaMonkey Mail performance problems

2009-06-02 Thread Moz Champion (Dan)

Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:

flyguy wrote:

Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:

Bob Fleischer wrote:

Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:

Bob Fleischer wrote:
I have been running the latest releases of SeaMonkey (now 1.1.16) 
on what should be a rather hot system -- a Core 2 quad 3.0 GHz 
system running Vista Business 64-bit in 8 GB RAM..  SeaMonkey mail 
performance, especially anything moving messages between folders, 
is really slow (like several seconds to move a message).  I've 
compressed folders and rebuilt indexes and no improvement.  I'm 
using F-PROT anti-virus.  CPU usage according to Task Manager is 
in the single-digit percentage range.


I run SeaMonkey at home with larger folders on a much older system 
with better performance -- but it is Windows XP and different 
anti-virus.


The system disk is defragmented frequently.

What else do I check?

Thanks,
Bob



Long shot, but try turning your anti-virus OFF completely and then 
moving messages... any improvement?


Such a test can indicate if it is anti-virus program releated or 
not. You can disconnect from the internet when you make the test if 
you have a mind to although its not really neccessary.


Well, turning off F-PROT's file system protection does indeed 
improve performance.


Bob


In that case I suggest leaving F-Prot off. It is not really 
protecting you fully in any case.


An anti-virus program is only as good as its 'definintions' file is, 
and regardless of how often it is updated, that file lags behind 
reality.
For example;  the I Love You virus, which infected over 30 million 
users (biggest infestation in history) was checked by many with the 
latest and greatest AV programs, and came back 'clean'. NONE of the 
AV programs extant at the time could detect the virus until their 
definitions files were updated, and that took three to seven days for 
the AV programs to do.


So, even with F-Prot running, and automatic updating, there is still 
a 3 to 7 day 'window' in which you are not protected against a 'new' 
virus.


So how to protect yourself? Simple.

Do NOT open email attachments  (opening email is fine, just not the 
attachments )

 If you MUST open an attachment
 Save it to disk for a week
 Update your AV program, check the file
 Open/run the attachment

Do NOT open/run files from the web
If yoiu MUST open/run files from the web
Save it to disk for a week
   Update your AV program, check the file
Open/run the file

Use a firewall

Using such a system allows you to run, and be fully protected against 
all malware, regardless of how new it is.  The above system has 
protected ALL my computers since 1992 and has never failed. It has 
also been used by hundreds of users I advised and they never reported 
an infection (at least to me).


Aren't you still vulnerable to drive-by downloads when visiting a 
website, or is SM immune to those?



[Tools--Options]*--Navigator--Downloads

Either choose Open the download manager or open a process dialog
in this manner you are kept informed at the very least.

You should also have a set place to download to as well

If a site attempts to download something, without asking first, then I 
would kill the download and leave said site. I would also report the 
site to its host.


In any case, even if it does by some strange circumstance get downloaded
then the rule still applies

Do NOT open/run files from the web





Sorry, forgot the addendum

*varies by OS
Linux
[Edit--Preferences]
Mac
[SeaMonkey--Preferences]
Windows as above
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