Re: How can one overide Windows 10's block against installing the new Seamonkey version?
The initial warning dialog offers "More..." -- if you click that, then you get the option to run anyway. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's New in SeaMonkey 2.53.7
On 3/30/2021 10:12 AM, WaltS48 wrote: *You MUST absolutely do a full backup of your profile before upgrading from a version earlier than SeaMonkey 2.53.1. This version of SeaMonkey makes changes to your profile that can't be reverted in cases where you need to go back to the older version.* *Automatic upgrades from previous versions are currently disabled for this release. Please download the full installer from the downloads section and install SeaMonkey 2.53.7 manually over the previous version.* SeaMonkey 2.53.7 Release Notes <https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.7/> Enjoy! -- OS: Fedora 33 Workstation - Gnome Desktop https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/get-involved/ So, what are the options for finding out about new releases after this newsgroup is gone? Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seeking replacement for Firefox... considering Seamonkey
> If you download firefox as a tar and put it in /usr/local, you can then > change the owner of that folder to something different from the user you > normally use with firefox. So for example set up a user called firefox > and then: > > chown -R firefox:users /usr/local/firefox > > This prevents firefox from updating itself when you are not logged in as > firefox. > > You need to link the executable into /usr/local/bin > > ln -s /usr/local/firefox/firefox /usr/local/bin/firefox Interesting idea. I've only got a couple of different users set up (various levels of security - one for usage and one for maintenance/repairs, besides actual security software), and I wonder how the install I have now would work if I set up a new low-level user and just changed the ownership of FF. That way it would help to isolate the browser from everything else and create another layer of security. We do have a skilled hacker in the area (he used to get into our router through the cable, turn on the wireless and removed all security from it, and was probably using it for games - huge downloads of data - but our local 'finest', like usual, refused to do anything about it). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seeking replacement for Firefox... considering Seamonkey
> > None of that really works for me... I don't use Windows, and the Linux > > version is completely different. > > I don't mind FF downloading the update, I just CANNOT have it install it > > until I"m ready - and FF has changed how to disable auto-install several > > times now, with each time being completely different. If they changed again > > and I was at a critical point - I could lose my job - at least making for a > > VERY bad day. > > > Use a Linux distribution like Ubuntu that provides a Firefox version > with no update setting in preferences at all. > > When the Software Updater offers an update, just remove the check mark > from the checkbox. > -- > OS: Ubuntu Linux 18.04LTS - Gnome Desktop > https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/get-involved/ > https://give.thunderbird.net/en-US/ I'm using Ubuntu 18.04LTS, and have been using Ubuntu since 2010. The version of Firefox is what came with the distro, and when I bought this new system, the first thing I did was literally crash and trash W10, so I could repartition and reformat the drive and install Ubuntu (I think 16.04LTS) along with the distro FF version. It's been quite a few years I've fought with Firefox over the autoinstall... it created some headaches when I was taking classes. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seeking replacement for Firefox... considering Seamonkey
On Saturday, September 5, 2020 at 7:54:17 AM UTC-4, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: > Bob wrote: > > I've used Seamonkey in the past, and really liked the way I could work on > > my 'personal' website with the software. I stopped using it when it was > > declared "obsolete" a few years ago. > > > > I am being forced to abandon Firefox, which I've been using for around 15 > > years now (and really liked, until the later iterations). I work from home, > > and absolutely CANNOT have software automatically install updates and force > > me to shut down (without being able to access another website to alert > > people). I've tried all of the tricks I could find to prevent automatic > > installation of updates, but nothing has worked, and I do NOT want to loose > > my job because of the programmers refusing to listen to reason. > > > > (1): Can I LOCK OUT automatic installation of updates? I MUST be able to > > choose when updating happens. > > > > (2): How up-to-date is Seamonkey kept? I already have strong security on my > > system, but need to avoid security holes. > > > > (3) How easy is it now to migrate Bookmarks, passwords, and so on? > > > > (4): "Bonus" question - is the composer still part of Seamonkey? > > > > I use Ubuntu 18:04 LTS - switched to it around the time I abandoned Office > > and IE (for security and other valid reasons). > > > > Thanks! > > > > Bob > > > If all you want is to stop FF updating, look at > https://www.journeybytes.com/disable-firefox-quantum-updates/ . > > I had the reverse problem in a previous job, I wanted to be able to > install FF updates (the automatic ones there had several deficiencies) > so I had to find out how they had disabled them and reverse it. > They had set something up in the Policies which I had to remove again. > Looking at my notes from back then, > - defaults\pref\local-settings.js contained a pointer (filename) to a > file mozilla.cfg > - this mozilla.cfg had a large number of really irritating settings. > > Bottom line, do a search on: firefox local-settings.js mozilla.cfg > and you will see how to change defaults. This is normally used for > company-wide policies. > > -- > spammo ergo sum, viruses courtesy of https://www.nsa.gov/malware/ None of that really works for me... I don't use Windows, and the Linux version is completely different. I don't mind FF downloading the update, I just CANNOT have it install it until I"m ready - and FF has changed how to disable auto-install several times now, with each time being completely different. If they changed again and I was at a critical point - I could lose my job - at least making for a VERY bad day. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seeking replacement for Firefox... considering Seamonkey
I've used Seamonkey in the past, and really liked the way I could work on my 'personal' website with the software. I stopped using it when it was declared "obsolete" a few years ago. I am being forced to abandon Firefox, which I've been using for around 15 years now (and really liked, until the later iterations). I work from home, and absolutely CANNOT have software automatically install updates and force me to shut down (without being able to access another website to alert people). I've tried all of the tricks I could find to prevent automatic installation of updates, but nothing has worked, and I do NOT want to loose my job because of the programmers refusing to listen to reason. (1): Can I LOCK OUT automatic installation of updates? I MUST be able to choose when updating happens. (2): How up-to-date is Seamonkey kept? I already have strong security on my system, but need to avoid security holes. (3) How easy is it now to migrate Bookmarks, passwords, and so on? (4): "Bonus" question - is the composer still part of Seamonkey? I use Ubuntu 18:04 LTS - switched to it around the time I abandoned Office and IE (for security and other valid reasons). Thanks! Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Installing Seamonkey 2.53.3
Bill Spikowski wrote: I'm trying to update my Seamonkey 2.49.5 installations on Win10 and Win7 computers. The installations seem to work fine; but then a couple hours later, I see that SM has regressed to version 2.49.5. This has happened twice each on two different Win10 computers. I've looked at the various warnings about this update but can't find any that would explain this behavior. What might I be missing??? One thing you have to be on the watch for with Windows 10 is that it will do a non-administrator one-user installation if you don't make sure that the installation is running as administrator. That is a valid installation, but it does not replace the previous for-all installation, so you have two. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 32 or 64 bit
On 5/30/2020 5:34 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: JAS wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Ken wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 5/28/2020 1:55 PM, JAS wrote: How does one go about telling which version of SM they have on their computer? I am using ver. 2.49.5 right now and I have read if going to a different bit when updating it is avised to uninstall first. JAS If are using Windows and you install in the default location, x32 installs in [C:\Program Files (x86)] and x64 installs in ["C:\Program Files"]. In going from x32 to x64 you will have SeaMonkey twice and there will be conflicts. For many years, however, I have been installing SeaMonkey in a non-default location that is on a drive that is NOT C. When I updated from x32 to x64, I still installed in that location. In my case, not uninstalling the older version was not necessary. The questions and answers of this thread prompted me to check my locations for SeaMonkey. I see I have a folder for SeaMonkey in both C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86). Apparently I am using the 64 bit location now. Is there any reason I could not simply delete the 32 bit directory?? Or is there a better way to remove the old files?? Please check Windows "Programs and Features" to see if both versions are installed. If best is to uninstall both and reinstall only the x64 version. Just deleting the x86 will leave fragments behind. If you still have anything in x86 SeaMonkey left after you uninstalled you can delete them. Might be ancient non working bundled add-ons or plugins then. FRG My Seamonkey profile is installed at: C:\Users\Margaret\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles and my SeaMonkey program is installed at: C:\Users\Margaret\AppData\Local\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe When I installed I thought I installed in the default location Looks like you did not have Admin rights when you installed it. Did you answer "no" to some security question posed by Windows? I assume you'd have to uninstall and reinstall to get past that one. With recent installations of SeaMonkey on Windows 10 I have no longer been prompted to install as administrator. I have to deliberately install from an administrator account (I suspect "run as administrator" would also work), otherwise I get a local, non-system wide installation without comment, notice, or warning. And if one accidentally gets a per-user installation and then installs as administrator, the per-user installation is not removed, and must be removed separately. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 32 or 64 bit
On 5/30/2020 5:34 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: JAS wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Ken wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 5/28/2020 1:55 PM, JAS wrote: How does one go about telling which version of SM they have on their computer? I am using ver. 2.49.5 right now and I have read if going to a different bit when updating it is avised to uninstall first. JAS If are using Windows and you install in the default location, x32 installs in [C:\Program Files (x86)] and x64 installs in ["C:\Program Files"]. In going from x32 to x64 you will have SeaMonkey twice and there will be conflicts. For many years, however, I have been installing SeaMonkey in a non-default location that is on a drive that is NOT C. When I updated from x32 to x64, I still installed in that location. In my case, not uninstalling the older version was not necessary. The questions and answers of this thread prompted me to check my locations for SeaMonkey. I see I have a folder for SeaMonkey in both C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86). Apparently I am using the 64 bit location now. Is there any reason I could not simply delete the 32 bit directory?? Or is there a better way to remove the old files?? Please check Windows "Programs and Features" to see if both versions are installed. If best is to uninstall both and reinstall only the x64 version. Just deleting the x86 will leave fragments behind. If you still have anything in x86 SeaMonkey left after you uninstalled you can delete them. Might be ancient non working bundled add-ons or plugins then. FRG My Seamonkey profile is installed at: C:\Users\Margaret\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles and my SeaMonkey program is installed at: C:\Users\Margaret\AppData\Local\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe When I installed I thought I installed in the default location Looks like you did not have Admin rights when you installed it. Did you answer "no" to some security question posed by Windows? I assume you'd have to uninstall and reinstall to get past that one. With recent installations of SeaMonkey on Windows 10 I have no longer been prompted to install as administrator. I have to deliberately install from an administrator account (I suspect "run as administrator" would also work), otherwise I get a local, non-system wide installation without comment, notice, or warning. And if one accidentally gets a per-user installation and then installs as administrator, the per-user installation is not removed, and must be removed separately. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Printing Web Pages
Tom Pamin wrote: More and more when printing web pages the printing is cutoff on the right side. This occurs even when there is a print button on the page. Is there a way to stop this from happening? I often wish there were a simple way to just "print the browser window as it looks now". I often wind up taking an image capture of the browser window and printing that, often getting me much closer to what I want than the "print" function. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey uses too much memory
Daniel wrote: j...@comcast.com wrote on 30/03/2019 9:29 AM: On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 13:28:54 -0700, Ant in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: Ditto. I always loved the suite products, since Netscape days, even though people think I am crazy! I started out on Netscape 3.0 -- Navigator Remember when you would open the bookmarks file or Prefs.js of Seamonkey or Firefox and the header would be "This is a Netscape File, Do Not Edit." (Of course you could edit it, just had to be sure that all of the app was completely closed.) Late comer!! When I signed up with my current ISP in 1996, he gave me two 5.25 inch disks one had WinSock type stuff to get my DOS Computer connected, the other had Netscape Navigator Ver 0.9!! I used NCSA Mosaic at first. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message list --
On 10/25/18 11:29, WaltS48 wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: . I have just replaced Thunderbird in Fedora29 with SeaMonkey 2.49.4 and the result is generally an improvement for me. However the the addresses in the From, To, etc. listing at the top of the message text page uses colored text. I use white text on a black background and the addresses appearing dark blue, virtually fading into the black background unless I put the cursor on the line, then it becomes red text which is a little better. I would like to make that white. Is there a line in about:config that will change that and what is the name. Thank you, Bob Are you referring to the Message Header? Subject: From: Date: To: etc. . Yes That is very light grey or blue for me in SM 2.49.4 on Ubuntu 18.04. If I change my Ubuntu theme from the default Adwaita to Adwaita-dark I can reproduce your problem. . That is my problem, all the themes available with a dark background look like that. I have tried all the themes listed and nothing with a dark background displays those addresses properly. It must be set somewhere in the SeaMonkey program. I have something in my notes for Thunderbird that suggests creating a css file but even then I would not know what to put in it to fix the font color in those lines without messing up everything else which is good. I am using SeaMonkey because I can get white text on black and use some of the old extensions such as ToneQuilla which permits me to create filters with voice announcements for different received messages. I suggest trying different Fedora themes. I would gladly use any theme, Fedora or SeaMonkey, that fixes the problem but there are many themes listed in XFCE Appearance, none of them provide the needed font color, preferably white as in Thunderbird, for those address lines with a dark background. That is why I inquired of this list. Thank you for responding, Bob <https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Draft_Documentation/0.1/html/User_Guide/sect-User_Guide-Customizing_the_desktop-Changing_the_theme_.html> ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Message list --
. I have just replaced Thunderbird in Fedora29 with SeaMonkey 2.49.4 and the result is generally an improvement for me. However the the addresses in the From, To, etc. listing at the top of the message text page uses colored text. I use white text on a black background and the addresses appearing dark blue, virtually fading into the black background unless I put the cursor on the line, then it becomes red text which is a little better. I would like to make that white. Is there a line in about:config that will change that and what is the name. Thank you, Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-27/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
folder sort not retained
Using SM 2.49.4 on Windows 10: My Inbox folder sort reverts to sort by Subject every time I open display of the folder, even if I had chosen previously a sort by date or sort by order received. This does not happen with other folders. If I change their sort-by column, go away and come back, the chosen sort remains. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: AdBlock Plus SM 2.49.3 W10 Pro Lenovo T460p
On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:44:05 -0400, Bo1953 <"Bo1953(NO)"@yahoo.com> wrote: >Hello all, > >Just checking to find out if anyone else has had the issue with ABP not >being dl'ed on the new SM version? > >What, if any, is the fall back for an adblocker or ideas as to how I can >get it on 2.49.3? > >TIA, > >bo1953 You might consider uBlock Origin Cheers ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: text URL recognized in some incoming messages but not all
On 4/16/2018 10:37 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 4/16/2018 7:26 AM, Bob Fleischer wrote: I often send text messages containing a URL in plain text. If I send the message in plain text from Seamonkey, it is recognized by a recipient Seamonkey as a clickable link and displayed as such. If I send the message in plain text from another mail program (in this case, Samsung's Android Email app), the plain text URL is not recognized nor displayed as a link. Looking at the message source, the only difference I can see is that the plain text from Seamonkey is sent as 7-bit plain text, whereas the plain text from the app is encoded in base64. Curiously, Samsung's app, when viewing such a message, does recognize the URL as a link. Why is that, and can I change Seamonkey to recognize the URL in that case? Thanks, Bob Are all the links bracketed by < and > per RFC 3986? No, none, in either case. And adding them does not help. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
text URL recognized in some incoming messages but not all
I often send text messages containing a URL in plain text. If I send the message in plain text from Seamonkey, it is recognized by a recipient Seamonkey as a clickable link and displayed as such. If I send the message in plain text from another mail program (in this case, Samsung's Android Email app), the plain text URL is not recognized nor displayed as a link. Looking at the message source, the only difference I can see is that the plain text from Seamonkey is sent as 7-bit plain text, whereas the plain text from the app is encoded in base64. Curiously, Samsung's app, when viewing such a message, does recognize the URL as a link. Why is that, and can I change Seamonkey to recognize the URL in that case? Thanks, Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: might some change in 2.48 break some web servers?
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: This bug usually hits you only if you don't start the browser first or close the last browser Windows when Mail is still open. Always in TB because it has no browser. It should not happen if you start the browser normally first. Check the error console if you see some error messages pointing to authentication or add-ons. The mozilla devs really take their time to review this one despite me and jorgk giving positive feedback. We might have to put it in a branch for 2.49.1: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1350152 Well beggars can't be choosers and Firefox is not affected so this takes the usual backseat... FRG Bob Fleischer wrote: Mason83 wrote: On 28/07/2017 20:15, Bob Fleischer wrote: I have Seamonkey V 2.48 running on 64-bit Windows 10 (v 1703). I just upgraded from V 2.46. A certain internal corporate web page I use no longer works, but only when accessed from Seamonkey 2.48 on this system. On other browsers, and from an absolutely clean v2.48 installation on a "virgin" Windows 10 (v 1703), everything works as before. See the thread "Problems with -sites requiring authentication" Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 23:32:31 +0200 I think you've run into this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1347857 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1350152 The work-around, as you've found out, is restarting SM. It seems it is something in the mail part that breaks HTTP auth. Regards. That could be it, although I personally see no connection to mail. As a test, I repeated the scenario I reported with my home system, which has an entirely separate profile and always has. I opened the same web site with 2.46, authenticated, and got in. I then upgraded to 2.48, and got the same weird error message when I tried to connect. I then restarted 2.48 in safe mode, accessed the web site (with remembered authentication in this case, no attempt to clear anything), and got in. Then I restarted 2.48 normally, and access to this web site worked OK. Bob I can confirm that, if I open the browser first, I do not have this problem. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: might some change in 2.48 break some web servers?
Mason83 wrote: On 28/07/2017 20:15, Bob Fleischer wrote: I have Seamonkey V 2.48 running on 64-bit Windows 10 (v 1703). I just upgraded from V 2.46. A certain internal corporate web page I use no longer works, but only when accessed from Seamonkey 2.48 on this system. On other browsers, and from an absolutely clean v2.48 installation on a "virgin" Windows 10 (v 1703), everything works as before. See the thread "Problems with -sites requiring authentication" Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 23:32:31 +0200 I think you've run into this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1347857 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1350152 The work-around, as you've found out, is restarting SM. It seems it is something in the mail part that breaks HTTP auth. Regards. That could be it, although I personally see no connection to mail. As a test, I repeated the scenario I reported with my home system, which has an entirely separate profile and always has. I opened the same web site with 2.46, authenticated, and got in. I then upgraded to 2.48, and got the same weird error message when I tried to connect. I then restarted 2.48 in safe mode, accessed the web site (with remembered authentication in this case, no attempt to clear anything), and got in. Then I restarted 2.48 normally, and access to this web site worked OK. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: might some change in 2.48 break some web servers?
Bob Fleischer wrote: Lee wrote: On 7/28/17, Bob Fleischer <bobnos...@nospamduxsys.com> wrote: I have Seamonkey V 2.48 running on 64-bit Windows 10 (v 1703). I just upgraded from V 2.46. A certain internal corporate web page I use no longer works, but only when accessed from Seamonkey 2.48 on this system. On other browsers, and from an absolutely clean v2.48 installation on a "virgin" Windows 10 (v 1703), everything works as before. Which means it's not a problem with v2.48 in general, but a problem with your particular install on that machine. Have you tried running Seamonkey in safe mode? with a new profile? with no addons? Regards, Lee The error page I get seems to come from the server and seems to blame the server: You are not authorized to view this page You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials you supplied. Please try the following: Click the Refresh button to try again with different credentials. If you believe you should be able to view this directory or page, please contact the Web site administrator by using the e-mail address or phone number listed on the partners.duxburysystems.com home page. HTTP 401.2 - Unauthorized: Logon failed due to server configuration Internet Information Services Technical Information (for support personnel) Background: This is usually caused by a server-side script not sending the proper WWW-Authenticate header field. Using Active Server Pages scripting this is done by using the AddHeader method of the Response object to request that the client use a certain authentication method to access the resource. More information: Microsoft Support Note that I am not prompted for a login. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey Well, of course it's a problem with my particular install (or profile) on that machine, but it was a profile that worked correctly in 2.46 (I use that server every day). It could mean that a valid but non-default setting in 2.46 either migrated incorrectly to 2.48 or is implemented incorrectly (or at least differently) in 2.48. How do I go about diagnosing that? (In case it makes a difference, this web server is a very old version--Windows 2000. This web site require authentication but is non-secure--straight http.) Bob Well, in case anyone else sees this issue. The problem seems to be fixed, although I don't know why: I restarted in "add-ons disabled" mode, connected to the problem server, authenticated, and the page displayed properly. I exited SeaMonkey, started SeaMonkey normally, and I was able to access that server normally. All I can figure is that the stored cookie or authentication for the server was damaged in some way, but this persisted even after I removed all records of that server in the data manager. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: might some change in 2.48 break some web servers?
Lee wrote: On 7/28/17, Bob Fleischer <bobnos...@nospamduxsys.com> wrote: I have Seamonkey V 2.48 running on 64-bit Windows 10 (v 1703). I just upgraded from V 2.46. A certain internal corporate web page I use no longer works, but only when accessed from Seamonkey 2.48 on this system. On other browsers, and from an absolutely clean v2.48 installation on a "virgin" Windows 10 (v 1703), everything works as before. Which means it's not a problem with v2.48 in general, but a problem with your particular install on that machine. Have you tried running Seamonkey in safe mode? with a new profile? with no addons? Regards, Lee The error page I get seems to come from the server and seems to blame the server: You are not authorized to view this page You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials you supplied. Please try the following: Click the Refresh button to try again with different credentials. If you believe you should be able to view this directory or page, please contact the Web site administrator by using the e-mail address or phone number listed on the partners.duxburysystems.com home page. HTTP 401.2 - Unauthorized: Logon failed due to server configuration Internet Information Services Technical Information (for support personnel) Background: This is usually caused by a server-side script not sending the proper WWW-Authenticate header field. Using Active Server Pages scripting this is done by using the AddHeader method of the Response object to request that the client use a certain authentication method to access the resource. More information: Microsoft Support Note that I am not prompted for a login. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey Well, of course it's a problem with my particular install (or profile) on that machine, but it was a profile that worked correctly in 2.46 (I use that server every day). It could mean that a valid but non-default setting in 2.46 either migrated incorrectly to 2.48 or is implemented incorrectly (or at least differently) in 2.48. How do I go about diagnosing that? (In case it makes a difference, this web server is a very old version--Windows 2000. This web site require authentication but is non-secure--straight http.) Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
might some change in 2.48 break some web servers?
I have Seamonkey V 2.48 running on 64-bit Windows 10 (v 1703). I just upgraded from V 2.46. A certain internal corporate web page I use no longer works, but only when accessed from Seamonkey 2.48 on this system. On other browsers, and from an absolutely clean v2.48 installation on a "virgin" Windows 10 (v 1703), everything works as before. The error page I get seems to come from the server and seems to blame the server: You are not authorized to view this page You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials you supplied. Please try the following: Click the Refresh button to try again with different credentials. If you believe you should be able to view this directory or page, please contact the Web site administrator by using the e-mail address or phone number listed on the partners.duxburysystems.com home page. HTTP 401.2 - Unauthorized: Logon failed due to server configuration Internet Information Services Technical Information (for support personnel) Background: This is usually caused by a server-side script not sending the proper WWW-Authenticate header field. Using Active Server Pages scripting this is done by using the AddHeader method of the Response object to request that the client use a certain authentication method to access the resource. More information: Microsoft Support Note that I am not prompted for a login. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [NOT SOLVED AND NO WORKAROUND] Re: Strange lost of focus (foreground/background)
Ray_Net wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote on 04-04-17 21:18: Ray_Net wrote: David E. Ross wrote on 03-04-17 18:59: On 4/3/2017 9:00 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Ray_Net wrote on 03-04-17 08:57: Ray_Net wrote on 01-04-17 21:18: SM Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46 above Windows 10 pro ... I have SM opened (WINDOW number 1) with all my mail-accounts, local folders and newsgroup on the left of the screen an a list of mails on the right with under a preview of a selected mail. If I initiate a "reply" of one of those mails located in the right-upper par of the SM window, another separate window (WINDOW number 2) is opened with the mail quoted - then I begin to type my reply texte. And suddently this window switch in the background letting me face of the "WINDOW number 1". How can I avoid this ? ... (expecting be able to continue type my reply if the "reply-window" (WINDOW number 2) visible and "in front" ) I hope than my explanation is clear and understandable. This is definitvely an SM problem/bug: I have decided to HIDE the "status bar" everywhere in SM except for the browser part. and the problem did not occur yet. We will see in the next few days. I just go the problem, so my workaround doesnot work, and I can re-instate de status bar visibility :-( All this indicates another reason not to install Windows 10. Yes, but this is a new pc with windows10 pre-installed I have had the same problem--which I would describe as focus going spontaneously to whatever was my first SeaMonkey window open, if it is not minimized--as I type in some other SeaMonkey window. This first occurred about the time I got the "anniversary update" of Windows 10 (last August). No other app shows the behavior. Bob This is exactly my case, except that I think that the pre-installed window10 was already up-to-date including the "anniversary update". And also ONLY SEAMONKEY give the problem. I probably should note that I have a more-or-less similar setup on my work PC (Anniversary Edition), but do not have this problem there. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [NOT SOLVED AND NO WORKAROUND] Re: Strange lost of focus (foreground/background)
Ray_Net wrote: David E. Ross wrote on 03-04-17 18:59: On 4/3/2017 9:00 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Ray_Net wrote on 03-04-17 08:57: Ray_Net wrote on 01-04-17 21:18: SM Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46 above Windows 10 pro ... I have SM opened (WINDOW number 1) with all my mail-accounts, local folders and newsgroup on the left of the screen an a list of mails on the right with under a preview of a selected mail. If I initiate a "reply" of one of those mails located in the right-upper par of the SM window, another separate window (WINDOW number 2) is opened with the mail quoted - then I begin to type my reply texte. And suddently this window switch in the background letting me face of the "WINDOW number 1". How can I avoid this ? ... (expecting be able to continue type my reply if the "reply-window" (WINDOW number 2) visible and "in front" ) I hope than my explanation is clear and understandable. This is definitvely an SM problem/bug: I have decided to HIDE the "status bar" everywhere in SM except for the browser part. and the problem did not occur yet. We will see in the next few days. I just go the problem, so my workaround doesnot work, and I can re-instate de status bar visibility :-( All this indicates another reason not to install Windows 10. Yes, but this is a new pc with windows10 pre-installed I have had the same problem--which I would describe as focus going spontaneously to whatever was my first SeaMonkey window open, if it is not minimized--as I type in some other SeaMonkey window. This first occurred about the time I got the "anniversary update" of Windows 10 (last August). No other app shows the behavior. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password manager crashes SeaMonkey
As per subject. Seamonkey 2.46 Win XP SP3 As soon as I open up password manager, the application locks up and I have to kill it using Cntl Alt Del Any clues please? Tia Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password manager Crashes SeaMonkey
As per subject. Seamonkey 2.46 Win XP SP3 As soon as I open up password manager, the application locks up and I have to kill it using Cntl Alt Del Any clues please? Tia Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password manager locks up Seamonkey 2.46
As per subject really. I'm running SM 2.46 which when it checks for updates there are none reported. (although I see references to 2.48?) I'm using Win XP SP3 and not proposing to change OS. Every time I open Password manager it opens with a minimum size new window and just locks up all SM windows and the only way out is Crtl Alt Delete. Rebooting the machine has no effect on the problem. Any ideas Please Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: focus keeps switching
Jonathan N. Little wrote: Lee wrote: On 11/15/16, Paul B. Gallagher <pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com> wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: This is slowly but surely driving me crazy: the focus shifts almost randomly. For example, I press reply, compose window opens, I type a key and whammo the original window comes to the top! Try keeping the cursor away from the taskbar, that helps. Park it somewhere else when you're not using it. But if you accidentally mouse over one of the application tiles, Windows will show it to you, and if you keep typing it'll decide that's what you wanted. Too "smart" for your own good. I remember seeing a "focus follows mouse" setting that I can't find now :( But it sounds like what's being described in this thread.. move the mouse to a different window and that window gets the focus. Lee WinKey + X >Control Panel > Ease of Access Center > Make mouse easier to use > Make it easier to manage windows Uncheck "Activate a window by hovering over it with the mouse" I do not have that setting checked (I looked for it before), and the problem isn't happening with other apps (for example, it does not happen with Firefox). Also, it's always as I'm typing (hands definitely off the mouse) and the focus always goes to another SeaMonkey window (most often to the Mail and Newsgroups window, although my hunch is that the focus goes to whatever SeaMonkey window was opened first). It will happen repeatedly, but if I minimize the window to which focus goes, the problem disappears until that window is again on screen. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: focus keeps switching
Rick Merrill wrote: This is slowly but surely driving me crazy: the focus shifts almost randomly. For example, I press reply, compose window opens, I type a key and whammo the original window comes to the top! I have this same problem after I upgraded a Windows 8.1 system to Windows 10 (this is with SeaMonkey 2.40). Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: other windows randomly pop to front, take focus, after I upgraded to Windows 10
WaltS48 wrote: On 08/19/2016 09:13 PM, Bob Fleischer wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: I just upgraded my Windows 8.1 system to Windows 10 version 1511. Ever since I did the upgrade, whenever I am interacting with SeaMonkey v2.40 (installed before the upgrade), whether it is typing text or picking a menu, another window seemingly randomly pops to front and takes focus. It has happened about 5 times in the typing of this message! It seems that I can prevent this by minimizing all other windows. (I seem to remember having a problem like this years ago, but I don't remember the details.) It is extremely frustrating (and sometimes destructive) to have this happen. Thanks, Bob I guess I'm the only one experiencing this. What happens most frequently is that the mail and newsgroups window in the background pops in front while I am typing something. For example, it happened while I was typing this message. Bob I seem to recall a similar thread and think the problem was caused by malware. You can search the archives here <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/mozilla.support.seamonkey> Only with SeaMonkey? Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: other windows randomly pop to front, take focus, after I upgraded to Windows 10
Bob Fleischer wrote: I just upgraded my Windows 8.1 system to Windows 10 version 1511. Ever since I did the upgrade, whenever I am interacting with SeaMonkey v2.40 (installed before the upgrade), whether it is typing text or picking a menu, another window seemingly randomly pops to front and takes focus. It has happened about 5 times in the typing of this message! It seems that I can prevent this by minimizing all other windows. (I seem to remember having a problem like this years ago, but I don't remember the details.) It is extremely frustrating (and sometimes destructive) to have this happen. Thanks, Bob I guess I'm the only one experiencing this. What happens most frequently is that the mail and newsgroups window in the background pops in front while I am typing something. For example, it happened while I was typing this message. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
other windows randomly pop to front, take focus, after I upgraded to Windows 10
I just upgraded my Windows 8.1 system to Windows 10 version 1511. Ever since I did the upgrade, whenever I am interacting with SeaMonkey v2.40 (installed before the upgrade), whether it is typing text or picking a menu, another window seemingly randomly pops to front and takes focus. It has happened about 5 times in the typing of this message! It seems that I can prevent this by minimizing all other windows. (I seem to remember having a problem like this years ago, but I don't remember the details.) It is extremely frustrating (and sometimes destructive) to have this happen. Thanks, Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
other windows randomly pop to front, take focus, after I upgraded to Windows 10
I just upgraded my Windows 8.1 system to Windows 10 version 1511. Ever since I did the upgrade, whenever I am interacting with SeaMonkey v2.40 (installed before the upgrade), whether it is typing text or picking a menu, another window seemingly randomly pops to front and takes focus. It has happened about 5 times in the typing of this message! It seems that I can prevent this by minimizing all other windows. (I seem to remember having a problem like this years ago, but I don't remember the details.) It is extremely frustrating (and sometimes destructive) to have this happen. Thanks, Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
other windows randomly pop to front, take focus, after I upgraded to Windows 10
I just upgraded my Windows 8.1 system to Windows 10 version 1511. Ever since I did the upgrade, whenever I am interacting with SeaMonkey v2.40 (installed before the upgrade), whether it is typing text or picking a menu, another window seemingly randomly pops to front and takes focus. It has happened about 5 times in the typing of this message! It seems that I can prevent this by minimizing all other windows. (I seem to remember having a problem like this years ago, but I don't remember the details.) It is extremely frustrating (and sometimes destructive) to have this happen. Thanks, Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.40 on Mac OS 10.6 browser windows have no menu bar, uncontrollable
Jonathan N. Little wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: My wife uses SeaMonkey on a MacBook (running 10.6). Somehow, it got into a state where browser windows fill the whole screen and have no menu bar, and thus are essentially uncontrollable (except for keyboard shortcuts). I don't even see how to change the browser window settings that are accessed via the menu. So how do I recover? (Yes, I assume I could go to the trouble and create a new profile. I created a test profile, and it works OK.) F11 fullscreen mode? On my wife's Mac, at least, F11 just seems to push the browser window behind the desktop (somewhat bizarrely), so I have access to the Finder menu bar and dock. It doesn't restore the browser window to normal. Pardon my Mac-ingorance but it sounds like you have your application window scaled larger than your desktop resolution. In Linux you can ALT+Left-click drag to grab a windows anywhere, not just the non-visible title bar, and move the window off screen enough to grab a corner or edge to resize it. Does Mac have something similar? In Windows you have to right-click the taskbar and click Cascade Windows to fix such a situation. Yes, that's what it looks like. I'd know what do to (analogous to what you would do) on Windows. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.40 on Mac OS 10.6 browser windows have no menu bar, uncontrollable
Jonathan N. Little wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: My wife uses SeaMonkey on a MacBook (running 10.6). Somehow, it got into a state where browser windows fill the whole screen and have no menu bar, and thus are essentially uncontrollable (except for keyboard shortcuts). I don't even see how to change the browser window settings that are accessed via the menu. So how do I recover? (Yes, I assume I could go to the trouble and create a new profile. I created a test profile, and it works OK.) F11 fullscreen mode? On my wife's Mac, at least, F11 just seems to push the browser window behind the desktop (somewhat bizarrely), so I have access to the Finder menu bar and dock. It doesn't restore the browser window to normal. Pardon my Mac-ingorance but it sounds like you have your application window scaled larger than your desktop resolution. In Linux you can ALT+Left-click drag to grab a windows anywhere, not just the non-visible title bar, and move the window off screen enough to grab a corner or edge to resize it. Does Mac have something similar? In Windows you have to right-click the taskbar and click Cascade Windows to fix such a situation. After trying a number of ways to reduce the size of a too-large window, I've come to the conclusion that the best description of the situation is "full screen without menu bar". The window isn't too large for the screen, it is fitted to it exactly. How do I get the menu bar back? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.40 on Mac OS 10.6 browser windows have no menu bar, uncontrollable
Isaac Schemm wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: After trying a number of ways to reduce the size of a too-large window, I've come to the conclusion that the best description of the situation is "full screen without menu bar". The window isn't too large for the screen, it is fitted to it exactly. How do I get the menu bar back? Are your not in fullscreen mode then? F11 toggles the mode. On this system, F11 hides (but doesn't minimize, they appear to slide off-screen) any open windows, showing the desktop. F11 again reverses this. This happens whether the window is SeaMonkey or any other application. Just checked - looks like the key command to turn full screen on/off on OS X is Shift+Command+F. See if that helps. Bingo! Thank you. Shift+Command+F did the trick. One of the problems with full-screen in Mac OS is that the shortcuts and types of full-screen available changed radically after Lion, so available information is conflicting. The other thing that bothers me is that "full screen" was persistent for SeaMonkey browser windows once it is set. All subsequent windows, even after a restart, come up full-screen. On top of that, the version of Mac OS I was running, 10.6, didn't drop down the menu bar even when the cursor was brought to the top of the screen Thanks, Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.40 on Mac OS 10.6 browser windows have no menu bar, uncontrollable
Jonathan N. Little wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: My wife uses SeaMonkey on a MacBook (running 10.6). Somehow, it got into a state where browser windows fill the whole screen and have no menu bar, and thus are essentially uncontrollable (except for keyboard shortcuts). I don't even see how to change the browser window settings that are accessed via the menu. So how do I recover? (Yes, I assume I could go to the trouble and create a new profile. I created a test profile, and it works OK.) F11 fullscreen mode? On my wife's Mac, at least, F11 just seems to push the browser window behind the desktop (somewhat bizarrely), so I have access to the Finder menu bar and dock. It doesn't restore the browser window to normal. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.40 on Mac OS 10.6 browser windows have no menu bar, uncontrollable
Jonathan N. Little wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: After trying a number of ways to reduce the size of a too-large window, I've come to the conclusion that the best description of the situation is "full screen without menu bar". The window isn't too large for the screen, it is fitted to it exactly. How do I get the menu bar back? Are your not in fullscreen mode then? F11 toggles the mode. On this system, F11 hides (but doesn't minimize, they appear to slide off-screen) any open windows, showing the desktop. F11 again reverses this. This happens whether the window is SeaMonkey or any other application. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.40 on Mac OS 10.6 browser windows have no menu bar, uncontrollable
Isaac Schemm wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: My wife uses SeaMonkey on a MacBook (running 10.6). Somehow, it got into a state where browser windows fill the whole screen and have no menu bar, and thus are essentially uncontrollable (except for keyboard shortcuts). I don't even see how to change the browser window settings that are accessed via the menu. So how do I recover? (Yes, I assume I could go to the trouble and create a new profile. I created a test profile, and it works OK.) F11 fullscreen mode? On my wife's Mac, at least, F11 just seems to push the browser window behind the desktop (somewhat bizarrely), so I have access to the Finder menu bar and dock. It doesn't restore the browser window to normal. Pardon my Mac-ingorance but it sounds like you have your application window scaled larger than your desktop resolution. In Linux you can ALT+Left-click drag to grab a windows anywhere, not just the non-visible title bar, and move the window off screen enough to grab a corner or edge to resize it. Does Mac have something similar? In Windows you have to right-click the taskbar and click Cascade Windows to fix such a situation. After trying a number of ways to reduce the size of a too-large window, I've come to the conclusion that the best description of the situation is "full screen without menu bar". The window isn't too large for the screen, it is fitted to it exactly. How do I get the menu bar back? Do you see the menu bar when you move the mouse to the top of the screen? Newer versions of OS X hide the menu bar when you maximize a window, until you move your mouse up to the top. If this is the case, you can make it visible by un-maximizing the window. No, moving the mouse to the top does nothing. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.40 on Mac OS 10.6 browser windows have no menu bar, uncontrollable
Felix Miata wrote: Bob Fleischer composed on 2016-03-15 23:36 (UTC-0400): My wife uses SeaMonkey on a MacBook (running 10.6). Somehow, it got into a state where browser windows fill the whole screen and have no menu bar, and thus are essentially uncontrollable (except for keyboard shortcuts). I don't even see how to change the browser window settings that are accessed via the menu. So how do I recover? Try F11? That helps, but it doesn't restore SeaMonkey browser window to what I consider normal operation with a menu bar at top. I need to find a list of SeaMonkey Mac keyboard shortcuts. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.40 on Mac OS 10.6 browser windows have no menu bar, uncontrollable
My wife uses SeaMonkey on a MacBook (running 10.6). Somehow, it got into a state where browser windows fill the whole screen and have no menu bar, and thus are essentially uncontrollable (except for keyboard shortcuts). I don't even see how to change the browser window settings that are accessed via the menu. So how do I recover? (Yes, I assume I could go to the trouble and create a new profile. I created a test profile, and it works OK.) Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: sending an HTML file as the message, not an attachment
I found that if I installed Cygwin (free) with its command-line email program, that "email" can send an HTML file as an HTML email message. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
sending an HTML file as the message, not an attachment
How would I send an HTML file as the mail message, not as an attachment? I can insert the text of the HTML file into an HTML message I am composing, but the result doesn't work correctly at the receiving end, probably due to the HTML context into which the HTML file is inserted. I just want to tell the mail editor: "Instead of you creating an HTML file, send this one." Thanks, Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: search for body text across local folders stalls
Bill Spikowski wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: With SeaMonkey 2.33.1, if I do a search for a string in body on Local Folders and subfolders, the search will stall at some point and never complete. Anything I should check or fix? If your mail folders are huge, a body search will take a long time -- are you're sure it's stalled, and not merely still searching? Well, no more results are reported after a certain point, even if I search for something very common. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
search for body text across local folders stalls
With SeaMonkey 2.33.1, if I do a search for a string in body on Local Folders and subfolders, the search will stall at some point and never complete. Anything I should check or fix? Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Pop up problem
David E. Ross wrote: On 3/7/2015 2:55 AM, Bob Minchin wrote: Can anyone help please? When I use photobucket, invariably a pop up advert appears (usually for a casino or similar) in a new window. It does not show the URL either AFAIK. This new window has all the tool bars suppressed so I can't access ad-blocker to set a rule to stop it. Is there a keyboard short cut to show the toolbars or another way to get to adblock whilst in the pop up window. tia Bob Do you have the PrefBar extension. If so, import the UnPopup Button from http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/buttons.html#unpopup. This button will transfer any popup window, that gets opened, back to a real browser window, by re-enabling menu bar, any toolbar, the sidebar and the status bar. You have to enable PrefBar for popup windows, to be able to use this one. Thanks David, I'll give that a go. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Pop up problem
EE wrote: Bob Minchin wrote: Can anyone help please? When I use photobucket, invariably a pop up advert appears (usually for a casino or similar) in a new window. It does not show the URL either AFAIK. This new window has all the tool bars suppressed so I can't access ad-blocker to set a rule to stop it. Is there a keyboard short cut to show the toolbars or another way to get to adblock whilst in the pop up window. tia Bob You can use DOM settings in about:config to force popup windows to have whatever normal window components you want. dom.disable_window_open_feature.directories - true dom.disable_window_open_feature.location - true dom.disable_window_open_feature.menubar - true dom.disable_window_open_feature.personalbar - true dom.disable_window_open_feature.scrollbars - true dom.disable_window_open_feature.status - true dom.disable_window_open_feature.titlebar - true dom.disable_window_open_feature.toolbar - true Thanks for the suggestion EE. I'm possibly not expert enough to tinker at this level. Currently trying another method first. Cheers Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Pop up problem
Can anyone help please? When I use photobucket, invariably a pop up advert appears (usually for a casino or similar) in a new window. It does not show the URL either AFAIK. This new window has all the tool bars suppressed so I can't access ad-blocker to set a rule to stop it. Is there a keyboard short cut to show the toolbars or another way to get to adblock whilst in the pop up window. tia Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Dropbox question
Bill Spikowski wrote: A technical question for Dropbox users: Usually I interact with Dropbox through the local folder on my computer; Dropbox uploads and downloads changed files without my interaction. However, when I email a colleague a link to a file or folder I've posted on Dropbox, I like to test the link before sending it. (Dropbox is confusing enough for regular users; new users are often completely baffled, even when the link is correct!) One way I've verified the upload is by right-clicking on the Dropbox desktop icon, then selecting View on dropbox.com, then looking at my new folder or files and verifying the time and file sizes. However, that has suddenly stopped working for me in Seamonkey, although it still works in Firefox and Chrome. Dropbox has made a recent change that's trouble for me; the other way I verified these links was by pasting them in my outgoing email in Seamonkey, then clicking on the link before sending the email and making sure I'm being sent to the right file. Dropbox now defeats that approach; their explanation is that when a file is already on your local computer, you get redirected there instead of to the actual link on dropbox.com. Either of my old methods worked fine, but I prefer to stay within Seamonkey rather than switching browsers, especially when I'm on other computers and don't recall my passwords. Any suggestions? Dropbox doesn't seem to have any real tech support, and I haven't been able to find anyone else reporting this problem through Google. If Dropbox have made the connection between the URL you used and your local machine, does that not mean the link was correct in the first place? I use a personal Dropbox account to store files for a small hobby forum that I help run and none of my users have ever reported a difficulty accessing files. Dropbox is hopelessly slow for photographs and brings the forum to a crawl but ideal for text files ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bookmark file problems
W3BNR wrote: Bob, if the restore bookmarks is not working, which it isn't, why not just Export your current bookmarks as HTML, Copy that bookmarks.html file to your other computer and then import it there?? Yes, I could do that but the HTML import feature is not very elegant in that it does not give an option to append to or replace the existing bookmarks, it just appends I can append and then edit - it is just messy which is a shame on a decent browser like SM. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bookmark file problems
EE wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Bob Minchin wrote on 11/29/2014 11:25 AM: Hi, Currently using ver 2.30 running under winxp sp3 When I try and back up the bookmarks, a file .json is saved ok but I can't restore from it. I get an unable to process the backup file message. Is this a known problem Any ideas please? TIA Bob Yes, known issue. You should be making regular _complete_ backups of your entire profile folder. If need be you can simply restore from the backup the places.sqlite file into the profile folder to restore bookmarks and history. You can also export bookmarks as HTML and import that file to restore them. Note that importing appends rather than replacing. Thanks Ed EE for your helpful replies. I had tried the HTML route and wondered why is did not behave as I expected to replace a deleted bookmark. My initial objective was to move the established bookmarks from one machine to another when I discovered the problem. Would simply copying the places.sqlite file into the second machine work OK or do I need to do the HTML import method and edit out duplicates? Is fixing the restore problem on the SeaMonkey to-do list or in the too hard pile? TIA Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Bookmark file problems
Hi, Currently using ver 2.30 running under winxp sp3 When I try and back up the bookmarks, a file .json is saved ok but I can't restore from it. I get an unable to process the backup file message. Is this a known problem Any ideas please? TIA Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey email setting.
When I receive my email the header shows the normal info such as sender, date, and my email address, but now it also includes the Message Source information. How do I stop it from downloading and showing this info. Obviously some setting was changed to cause this. Thank you. B. Timoffee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
importing an older address book into V2.25
Hello, I can't seem to find a way to import my old(er) Seamonkey address book (abook.mab) into V2.25 on Windows 7. Can anyone help? Thanks, Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Possible bug? Autocomplete in address bar takes a few seconds to populate, used to be near instant.
Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote: I want to say this behavior started around 2.24 but I could be wrong. I've noticed that when typing into my address bar that it now takes around 2-3 seconds before autocomplete populates anything. It used to be instant. I thought maybe it was machine specific but it happens both at home and on my work box. Some Google searches say it *could* be a corrupted places.sqlite. But on two machines? Hm, not buying that one. places.sqlite on my home box is only 51MB which I don't feel is too huge. I have History set to 180 days. But then again, I've had it set to 180 days for close to a decade. Anyone have any ideas? I wonder if this is the same problem I've experienced, only in my case all of SeaMonkey freezes (goes into the Windows not responding state) immediately after I type the first letter of an address that normally would autocomplete. SeaMonkey then takes as much as a full minute before it responds again. This usually happens only the first time in a session that I enter an address in the Compose window; after that, response is quick. (I would also say that this behavior started around the time of v2.24.) Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: E-mail install failure on Windows 7 - OK on Linux
Bob Henson wrote: As Mozilla are intent on ruining both Firefox and Thunderbird, I though I'd give Seamonkey a try. However, I hit a problem almost immediately. It installed just fine on my Linux test system, so I tried it on my main Windows 7 system. Any attempt to set up e-mail accounts failed - the system would not allow me to set the first or subsequent e-mail accounts to use a Global Inbox system - the radio button to allow it does not function (although the dropdown along side it seems to), and it will not allow me to tick include this server when getting new e-mail. It makes no difference if the account is set up to use SSL or not - neither work. Is this a known problem with Seamonkey? It seems odd is it is, as I would have thought that would have been fixed years ago as a matter of urgency. If not, and although it uses a separate profile, might it be because I have Thunderbird and Firefox on the same machine? I did not use the Thunderbird import facility on setup, should that be a factor. I've replied to myself here so that I can transfer this message plus the original to the dev group - follow up is set to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey. Since writing, I tried several times to remove and completely reinstall 2.26 to no avail, the problem persists. I've just uninstalled (including profile, of course) it again and installed Seamonkey 2.25. There is a minor error in this in that the account wizard still fails to make a new account use the Global inbox system when ticked, but you can successfully manually change the account settings from within in the account manager. My guess is that in trying to fix the problem in the Wizard in 2.25, a new bug or a regression has screwed the system completely in 2.26? Either way, it needs fixing sharpish, chaps. Regards, Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: OT: Mozilla Hires New CEO
Edmund Wong wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: One concern might be if the political dispute between the new CEO and Mozilla developers (including a boycott by some developers) affect availability of technology that Seamonkey ultimately needs. What kind of dispute are you talking about? Edmund http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/03/gay-firefox-developers-boycott-mozilla-to-protest-ceo-hire/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: OT: Mozilla Hires New CEO
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 24/03/2014 18:21, SamuelS told the world: Just read this article from ZDNet, how, if at all, will this affect SM? Probably not much, if at all. 1. Seamonkey is not a Mozilla product. Yes, Mozilla lends some infrastructure resources to the Seamonkey team. But Seamonkey product decisions are outside the scope of the Mozilla CEO. It's barely possible that Mozilla might stop providing those resources to the SM team at some point in the future, but I don't see that happening any time soon. 2. Brendan Eich is not some outsider brought into Mozilla who doesn't get how things work. He's a very, very long-time Mozillian -- he was in Netscape since 1995, where he created Javascript; he was part of the team who originally spun off Mozilla from Netscape; and he has been CTO of Mozilla since 2005. All in all, he wasn't as much hired as CEO as promoted. One concern might be if the political dispute between the new CEO and Mozilla developers (including a boycott by some developers) affect availability of technology that Seamonkey ultimately needs. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Alternate layout for Mail/News screen
On 09/10/2013 12:19 PM, Daniel wrote: I've cross-posted this to both TB and SM newsgroups as it can apply to both, and then set follow-up to SM as I don't read TB. I've got my Mail/News screen set up with the Accounts down the left hand side, the threads displaying in the top right and the message in the bottom right. This often results in a lot of wasted, white, screen space in the Message display area. I think, in the preferences/options, somewhere (I cannot find it just ATT!), this can be changed to, I think, three slices right across the screen. In these days where screens often are wider than in by-gone days, I would like to know if it is, easily, possible to set the screen up so that the Threads screen is right across the top of the screen, the Accounts down what's left on the left of the screen and the Message screen in the bottom right of the screen?? Effectively, leave the Message Pane as is, reduce the height of the Accounts Pane and increase the width of the Threads Pane. If you have a wide screen - why not set Options Layout to Vertical View. On my 16:9 screen, I find that layout with the Folders squashed to the left (font size reduced in userChrome.css - so it squashes even more) leaves acres of room for the Message tree next and the message body to the right of that. -- Bob - Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK I thought I was getting more patient with advancing years - turns out I just don't give a shit. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Trouble Removing All Cookies
I am trying to delete all of my cookies in SeaMonkey V2.20 in order to get a clean slate. I have accessed Help to find out how to do this and found the following: Mozilla Suite and SeaMonkey To remove all cookies go to Edit - Preferences - Privacy Security - Cookies - Cookie Manager - *_Stored Cookies (tab)_* (or use Tools - Cookie Manager - Manage Stored Cookies) and click *_Remove All Cookies_*. When I follow any of these directions, I cannot find any button or checkbox that says Remove All Cookies, nor can I find a Stored Cookies (tab). Is there something that needs to be enabled in order to see this button/checkbox/tab ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.17 breaks Mailredirect extension
NFN Smith wrote: Daniel wrote: All very good, Bob, but some here don't read the Subject's of the post, they look at the content of the message, so just putting FYI in the message may not be very useful! Perhaps if you were to give a bit more detail as to what you are seeing Yep. Just love problem reports that are some version of it doesn't work, without describing what that actually means. might help other extension users to know if they are experiencing the same, or different, problem and the extension developer might be able make a start or fixing things. Do you get any error messages on screen or in the Error console (Tools-Web Development-Error Console). I'm seeing the same difficulty. The key symptom that I'm seeing is that the drop down for selecting the sending account is blank (actually ...) Thus, if you click send, nothing happens, presumably because no account has been/can be selected. I checked this against Thunderbird 17.0.5, and the problem isn't there. It seems to be specific to Seamonkey 2.17. That said, I would not assume that the developer of Mailredirect reads mozilla.support.seamonkey. Thus, for the OP, a better course of action would be to file a bug report with the maintainer of that extension. I may get around to doing that myself, in a few days, but it's not something that's especially urgent for me to do. Smith No, I don't assume that the developer reads this group. I assume that making this problem known in a SeaMonkey-related support group at least has a chance of being more helpful than saying nothing, and might at least let other users know of the problem. (It would also be informative if some reported that it did work for them.) There was a support mailing list, but it appears to have been closed. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.17 breaks Mailredirect extension
Daniel wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: Daniel wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: FYI Sorry, Bob, did you mean to tell the Mailredirect Extension Developer that his/her Mailredirect extension does not work with SM 2.17?? Or something else?? The developer, or SeaMonkey users, or possibly the SeaMonkey developers would find this of interest. It can be helpful to somebody who is experiencing an issue to see that somebody else has noticed the same issue. It can also raise a flag to developers that something was changed perhaps in an unexpected area. Bob All very good, Bob, but some here don't read the Subject's of the post, they look at the content of the message, so just putting FYI in the message may not be very useful! Perhaps if you were to give a bit more detail as to what you are seeing might help other extension users to know if they are experiencing the same, or different, problem and the extension developer might be able make a start or fixing things. Do you get any error messages on screen or in the Error console (Tools-Web Development-Error Console). I don't have any more information on this. The redirect window does pop up, but it is incorrect in content and does not function. Can I attach a screen shot? Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.17 breaks Mailredirect extension
Daniel wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: FYI Sorry, Bob, did you mean to tell the Mailredirect Extension Developer that his/her Mailredirect extension does not work with SM 2.17?? Or something else?? The developer, or SeaMonkey users, or possibly the SeaMonkey developers would find this of interest. It can be helpful to somebody who is experiencing an issue to see that somebody else has noticed the same issue. It can also raise a flag to developers that something was changed perhaps in an unexpected area. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.17 breaks Mailredirect extension
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How can I add an Image Gallery Seamonkey?
Hello - going to embark on creating a basic website using Seamonkey HTML editor for the first time. It will contain image galleries - any suggestions on what software to use to create the galleries so a user can See the full gallery in thumbnails Select an image and expand it Go from image to image with an arrow Many thanks - I am a Techtard! Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Why does the LA Times home page kill my SeaMonkey?
Actually, it doesn't kill the process, but all windows disappear and SeaMonkey apparently consumes no resources (other than the memory it is already using). Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Why does the LA Times home page kill my SeaMonkey?
Ray_Net wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote, On 25/09/2012 20:04: Actually, it doesn't kill the process, but all windows disappear and SeaMonkey apparently consumes no resources (other than the memory it is already using). Bob You did not send us the offending URL... When you said all windows disappear evenwhile the notepad-window if it was open ? Strange ... Please be more clear latimes.com All SeaMonkey windows disappear. Other windows do not disappear. (This is on Windows 7, all task bar icons disappear, too.) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Why does the LA Times home page kill my SeaMonkey?
Bob Fleischer wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote, On 25/09/2012 20:04: Actually, it doesn't kill the process, but all windows disappear and SeaMonkey apparently consumes no resources (other than the memory it is already using). Bob You did not send us the offending URL... When you said all windows disappear evenwhile the notepad-window if it was open ? Strange ... Please be more clear latimes.com All SeaMonkey windows disappear. Other windows do not disappear. (This is on Windows 7, all task bar icons disappear, too.) It appears to have something to do with Java. I was having a similar problem with Firefox on a page that used Java (a different page). I completely removed and reinstalled Java on my Windows 7 system, and now this page loads properly (as does the page that killed Firefox). Is there any way to verify a Java installation? Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: location bar blank, bookmarks toolbar only has home
Bob Fleischer wrote: I seem to have damaged my profile in such a way that browser windows no longer show the bookmarks toolbar (the space for the bar is there, as is the Home icon on the left, and it is selected under show/hide). Also, the location bar remains blank as I browse. My profile still has the bookmark data, including the bookmarks for the bookmarks toolbar -- I can see them if I go to Manage Bookmarks. It appears as if some UI information is damaged. How do I fix it? Bob Well, I tried safe mode but it too had the main problem--the bookmarks toolbar and location bar not working correctly. I tried all the usual delete this and delete that files, to no improvement in the situation. (Other browser-based tool windows didn't work either; e.g, the add-ons manager window came up totally blank.) I realized I had a file backup from less than a month ago, I restored everything but my mail folders (which seemed to be intact), and everything is working OK now. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
minidumps folder -- what are these files?
With the latest versions of Firefox and SeaMonkey, I note that my profiles have new folders names minidumps each containing some files. What are these? Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
location bar blank, bookmarks toolbar only has home
I seem to have damaged my profile in such a way that browser windows no longer show the bookmarks toolbar (the space for the bar is there, as is the Home icon on the left, and it is selected under show/hide). Also, the location bar remains blank as I browse. My profile still has the bookmark data, including the bookmarks for the bookmarks toolbar -- I can see them if I go to Manage Bookmarks. It appears as if some UI information is damaged. How do I fix it? Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: location bar blank, bookmarks toolbar only has home
Hartmut Figge wrote: Bob Fleischer: It appears as if some UI information is damaged. How do I fix it? First step ist trying safe-mode. ;) Hartmut OK -- once I do that, does that fix the problem, or is it a work-around, or a diagnostic? Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Mail - Change colors for Messages
chicagofan wrote: chicagofan wrote: upscope wrote: Considering moving to SeaMonkey Mail. I have been unable to find how to change colors of the messages based on New Message, Read Message,and Important message. I presently use Kmail and set New Messages to Red, Important Messages to Green and Read Messages to Black. Only thing I have found is Edit -- Preferences -- Mail Newsgroups -- Message Display -- settings for Quoted Messages. Searching Help File does not revel answer either. I can see where you can add a tag and change color, but it does not change inbound new messages to Red as Kmail does. Is this possible to do what I want without doing each one manually? Thanks in advance. Right click on a message, select Tag from the popup, and use the color you want. bj OOPS... sorry... just noticed after sending previous message, you said not doing it manually. I don't know a group way, but maybe someone else will. bj Tagging can be done automatically--by a filter. (My SeaMonkey Mail setup does that for me.) Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: still get hangs after downloads with SM 2.5b4
Bob Fleischer wrote: As I did with SeaMonkey 2.4, I still get frequent (about 30 % of the time) hangs immediately after downloads with SM 2.5b4. This happens whether I use the download manager or not. Bob I stumbled upon something that might provide a clue regarding what's happening: I have had, for as long as I can remember, SeaMonkey configured to play a sound after downloads. (The sound I use is the tada that I think is standard in the Windows media folder.) I noticed that the sound wasn't being heard when SeaMonkey would hang after a download. On downloads that didn't hang, I would hear the sound. So I conducted the experiment of turning off the play a sound after downloads. I had absolutely no download hangs from that point on. I tried once turning play a sound on again, and hangs (occasional, not every time) returned. So now I am using SeaMonkey with play a sound turned off, and am having no problems. Does this information help, or indicate a known problem? Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
still get hangs after downloads with SM 2.5b4
As I did with SeaMonkey 2.4, I still get frequent (about 30 % of the time) hangs immediately after downloads with SM 2.5b4. This happens whether I use the download manager or not. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: still get hangs after downloads with SM 2.5b4
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: As I did with SeaMonkey 2.4, I still get frequent (about 30 % of the time) hangs immediately after downloads with SM 2.5b4. This happens whether I use the download manager or not. Bob I would SUSPECT this has to do with your OS's virus scan, probably halting SeaMonkey after it finishes writing a file to your HD while it inspects the file for viruses, or some such... If you (temporarily) disable/shut off your virus program entirely when you download a file, does the hang go away? Do you think that previous versions of SeaMonkey would be immune to this? I have had all the versions of SeaMonkey in the last three years installed on this system, and there was never any problem with downloads until 2.4. Also, this hang appears to be indefinite, not temporary (it never clears up; I always have to stop and restart SeaMonkey). I will try disabling the antivirus, just in case something changed there, but I have made no change in anti-virus (other than updates) for a couple of years. Thanks, Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.4.1 - Cancel/Del not working
Daniel wrote: Bob wrote: Is this a known problem? In a newsgroup, Delete message, Cancel message grayed out. Del key not working. Thanks for any help. Bob Bob, not all News servers honour the Delete command, indeed, I don't think this Mozilla server honours it, when you try to Delete a message that you posted, all Mozilla does is mark the message as read so that you don't see it. Some Usenet Servers also do not honour the Delete command. Yes, I know. Worked fine at the specific newsgroup with SeaMonkey 2.0.14 'Course, it used to be Cancel everywhere; not Delete. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.4.1 - Cancel/Del not working
Hartmut Figge wrote: Bob: Is this a known problem? Yes. I don't like the new way. In a newsgroup, Delete message, Cancel message grayed out. Del key not working. For cancelling a message now 'Message-Cancel Message' from the menu is required. No shortcut. At least, if already SM 2.4.1 is afflicted by this, ehm, feature. *g* Hartmut That doesn't work either. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.4.1 - Cancel/Del not working
Hartmut Figge wrote: Bob: Is this a known problem? Yes. I don't like the new way. In a newsgroup, Delete message, Cancel message grayed out. Del key not working. For cancelling a message now 'Message-Cancel Message' from the menu is required. No shortcut. At least, if already SM 2.4.1 is afflicted by this, ehm, feature. *g* Hartmut That doesn't work either. Update: Apologies. It does work from Message menu when viewing the message in a list. It does not work from Message menu when viewing the message proper. Thank you. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.4.1 - Cancel/Del not working
Hartmut Figge wrote: Bob: Hartmut Figge wrote: For cancelling a message now 'Message-Cancel Message' from the menu is required. No shortcut. At least, if already SM 2.4.1 is afflicted by this, ehm, feature. *g* That doesn't work either. Do you get a window with the question 'Are you sure you want to cancel this message? If so, what happened after clicking OK? Do you get a window with the message 'This message does not appear to be from you. You may only cancel your own posts, not those made from others'? Do you really want to cancel a message or do you want, that messages will not be shown on your SM? 'doesn't work' is not sufficient as description. Hartmut Options were grayed out ... not available ... except under Message menu when viewing messages in a list. Grayed out under Message menu when looking at the content of the message. Don't understand the reason for the change. Just more mysterious. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.4.1 - Cancel/Del not working
WLS (CompTIA A+ Certified - Retired) wrote: Bob wrote: Is this a known problem? In a newsgroup, Delete message, Cancel message grayed out. Del key not working. Thanks for any help. Bob In about:config change news.allow_delete_with_no_undo to true. You should then be able to delete newsgroup messages from your SeaMonkey. They will still be on the news server, Google groups, and the mailing lists Interesting but not what I was looking for. Issue resolved but not really happy. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.4.1 - Cancel/Del not working
Is this a known problem? In a newsgroup, Delete message, Cancel message grayed out. Del key not working. Thanks for any help. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Archiving mail
I've been becoming a little concerned about the number of mails in my inbox - thousands going back to 2007. I have moved older ones into a sub folder and thought that I would make a copy of this file as an archive and burn it to a cd But I can't find with folder where sub folder lives? I've tried a WinXP search for the folder name but no joy. Where does SM keep it's mail and how should I best archive it. Apologies if this is a dumb question. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Archiving mail
Hartmut Figge wrote: Bob Minchin: I've been becoming a little concerned about the number of mails in my inbox - thousands going back to 2007. I have moved older ones into a sub folder and thought that I would make a copy of this file as an archive and burn it to a cd But I can't find with folder where sub folder lives? In the context menu of the subfolder choose properties. 'Location' shows the path to that folder. You can mark the path and copy it. Hartmut Thanks Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
2.4.1 hangs after downloads
Well, not always, but several times a day SeaMonkey 2.4.1 will just hang (and not recover) immediately after a download. I've never seen this with previous versions. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Rickles wrote: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.4.1. Others have complained about SM appearing to hang, or at least take a ridiculously long time to do something as simple as delete an email. I'd never seen it before, until today. Normally the PC's been on most of the day while I've been at work, but today the house was empty all day I was the first home. Turned PC on and left it un-logged in for approx. an hour. Logged in, waited for systray icons to all appear showing all 'run' apps completed, and opened SM Mail. It opened, downloaded 3 short text messages. The wife read one message over my shoulder, said that message could be deleted. So I did, or thought so, anyway. Pressed delete key but message stayed in Inbox. Checked Deleted folder, empty. Went back to Inbox, but only Folder pane showed any content--thread message panes were both blank. Assumed some background process was taking up processor time, but Task Manager showed 99% system idle time, and there was no network traffic. No background CPU takeover, no scheduled tasks running, no busy network. I left it ticking over for a full 5 minutes without change, then closed the SM Mail window (browser never open). Verified seamonkey.exe process was absent from Task Manager and re-opened Mail--deleted same message again and it worked perfectly, and for everything after that. Suggestions? You must allow your hard working SM program to take a coffee break. As you know that since the start of the rapid release policy the program hasn't had a chance to stop to draw a decent breath. I've had hangs with 2.4.1 where my only recourse (I've waited as much as an hour) is to kill the process. Many of them, but by no means all of them, seem to be associated with downloads. (Before 2.4.1, I've almost never had a hang or crash with SeaMonkey. Now it is once every day or two.) (This is on Windows 7 64 bit.) Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost extensions/add-ons in 2.4
Oedipe wrote: Here we go again, i've lost two extensions not compatible with the 2.4 recent upgrade :-( I begin to be quite fed-up with all these automatic upgrades... I can report that the Mail Redirect 0.7.6.6 extension stopped working properly when I upgraded to 2.4 (everything worked EXCEPT it didn't send anything). I just re-installed Mail Redirect 0.7.6.6 and it resumed proper operation. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
2.3.2 update failed on XP limited user, upgraded from Admin, but limited user still sees upgrade failed
On a Windows XP system my daughter uses, she runs SeaMonkey from a regular/limited user account. The 2.3.2 upgrade was attempted, but failed. I then performed the upgrade from an administrator account, successfully. However, when using the limited user account, SeaMonkey reports upgrade failed whenever it starts. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Views Columns
I'm just giving Seamonkey a try for the first time, and cannot find a way to set the View differently (in particular the column headers) for each folder. Can it not be done as in Thunderbird? Do they really all have to have exactly the same View set? I think I must be missing something. Regards, Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey doesn't remember screen layout?
Another query, if I may? Seamonkey doesn't seem to remember the screen layout when it is closed down. On restarting the panes have moved each time. I use the vertical view and the message panes shrink back towards the folder pane each time I restart the program. Is this the normal behaviour? Regards, Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.2 on Windows 7: right-click on link produces oversized popup
I just upgraded to SeaMonkey 2.2, and right-clinks on links produced a grossly oversized popup menu, essentially full screen height, with the menu contents sometimes scrolled off the top of the screen. The contents are also missing some entries. This particular installation must have gotten corrupt during or immediately after upgrade, as I have another, similar system that does not have this problem. How do I fix it? Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.2 on Windows 7: right-click on link produces oversized popup
Bob Fleischer wrote: I just upgraded to SeaMonkey 2.2, and right-clinks on links produced a grossly oversized popup menu, essentially full screen height, with the menu contents sometimes scrolled off the top of the screen. The contents are also missing some entries. This particular installation must have gotten corrupt during or immediately after upgrade, as I have another, similar system that does not have this problem. How do I fix it? Bob Well, miraculously, the context menu has fixed itself. Any idea how that could happen? Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
What's a Power PC Mac user to do?
My wife still uses SeaMonkey 2.0.x on a Power PC Mac running Mac OS 10.4. I understand that she cannot upgrade to SeaMonkey 2.1, and that there will be no further security fixes to SeaMonkey 2.0. Besides buying a new computer, what alternatives might there be? Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
2.1pre (RC2) and search results--can't do much in Search Messages window
I am running RC2 on Windows 7, 64-bit and find that when I use the search messages window, there is very little I can do with the listed search results. Click, double-click, and right-click do nothing on a search result item. While I can select any search result item, and highlight it, I can't open it with the Open button. (I can however delete it with the Delete button. Open Message Folder will open a new message window with the message selected.)) This is stuff I used to do all the time with earlier versions of SeaMonkey (such as 2.0), so this is very worrisome. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Mail folders--is there any control available over recent folder list?
My recent folder list seems to get flushed too quickly to be useful much of the time. How is the list maintained? Do I have any control over the number of items in the list (or the age if that is a factor)? Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
in SeaMonkey 2.0.7 for OS MAC - Sent File not working
Since installing 2.0.7 all existing Sent messages have disappeared, and no new ones are being captured. All prior fixess regarding this kind of problem seem to refer to the Windows version. What's a MAC user to do? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
comparing folders, sorting folders, merging folders
Now that I've recovered missing email from a folder (causes unknown, but I suspect a failed network file transfer was either not reported as an error or not noticed), I have a folder that I think has everything in it, but since I was careful to avoid adding ranges that seemed to be intact, there is the possibility of missing something. I didn't want to simply copy the entire contents of backups to a single file, because I assume I would get duplicates of almost everything (I assume SeaMonkey does nothing to detect or avoid duplicate messages). So now I'd like to know Is there anything in Folder A that is not also in Folder B? How do I do that? Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
recovering messages from a folder that don't show as messages
I have a rather large folder of saved email messages (now using SeaMonkey 2.0.x, but it was long established under SeaMonkey 1.x) in which a large period of messages -- spanning almost two years worth -- disappeared from the folder listing. Instead, the last message still displayed before the break is listed as having an enormous size -- it does have an attachment, but nowhere near that big! I suspect that the messages are still there, but somehow the file is corrupted so that they look as if they are part of that last message before the break. Rebuilding the summary file does not fix this. Compacting the folder does not fix this. (It turns out that I have a backup that has these messages visible, so I'm not in a panic.) I was just wondering if there were any way to recover messages in a folder that had somehow been swallowed up as apparent attachments to a preceding message. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
QuickTime plugin disappears after upgrading QuickTime
I was viewing the QuickTime plugin with SeaMonkey 2.0.4, and QT prompted me to update it. I did OK the update, QT downloaded and installed, shut down SeaMonkey, and now I have no QT plugin. This is on Windows Vista 64-bit. Is there any way of restoring the QuickTime plugin? This same thing, by the way, happened with Firefox -- the plugin was working, but after the update to QT I am offered to download QuickTime! Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
