Re: SlashDot

[GerardJan]

David E. Ross wrote on 12/15/19 11:41 PM:

Windows 7
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.5

I cannot view .  For over a minute, the
status bar shows repeated requests to domains such as
slashdot.org
m.slashdot.org
fonts.googleapis.com
a.fsdn.com
d3tglifpd8whs6.cloudfront.net
fonts.gstatic.com
without ever rendering the page.

Last night, I had no problem with that Web site.  Today, I cannot get
it.  Trying SeaMonkey in safe mode did not help.  Enabling "Advertise
Firefox compatibility" did not help.

Although I can get the page while using Internet Explorer 11, spoofing
Internet Explorer 11 in SeaMonkey does not work.  Spoofing Chrome or
Opera do not work.

Is anyone else having this problem?  Has anyone found a solution?



I am running /seamonkey/ as:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:56.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/56.0 
SeaMonkey/2.53



renders fine


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Re: SlashDot [SOLVED]

[GerardJan]

David E. Ross wrote on 12/18/19 7:12 AM:

On 12/15/2019 2:41 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

Windows 7
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.5

I cannot view .  For over a minute, the
status bar shows repeated requests to domains such as
slashdot.org
m.slashdot.org
fonts.googleapis.com
a.fsdn.com
d3tglifpd8whs6.cloudfront.net
fonts.gstatic.com
without ever rendering the page.

Last night, I had no problem with that Web site.  Today, I cannot get
it.  Trying SeaMonkey in safe mode did not help.  Enabling "Advertise
Firefox compatibility" did not help.

Although I can get the page while using Internet Explorer 11, spoofing
Internet Explorer 11 in SeaMonkey does not work.  Spoofing Chrome or
Opera do not work.

Is anyone else having this problem?  Has anyone found a solution?


Somehow, I had preference variable of the form
"general.useragent.override" set for slashdot.org indicating an old
version of Opera.  When I reset it, the problem disappeared.

I am not sure how this happened.  Normally, when I set a preference
variable to a non-default value, my first choice is to use [Edit >
Prefences].  Since that cannot be used to set variables of the form
"general.useragent.override", my next choice is to use the file user.js,
in which I also insert a comment explaining why I am doing it.  My
user.js had no such setting!  So I am not sure how this got set.

In any case, I no longer have the problem.


I have no problem with ver. 2.53 and imap

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Re: Sites Ask To Upgrade Browser

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Hartmut Figge wrote on 11/5/19 9:11 PM:

David E. Ross:


Only one Web site that I frequently visit will not work with SeaMonkey:
.


What does not work? Opening the above link with my 2.53.1 succeeds.

Hartmut



It opens fine with the following version:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:56.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/56.0 
SeaMonkey/2.53

Build identifier: 20180515074450

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Re: Can't Pay Bills From Bank Account Anymore but Okay in Chrome

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WaltS48 wrote on 10/25/2019 03:51 PM:

On 10/25/19 4:15 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
SeaMonkey 2.49.5 and up will show a small zoom control in the status bar 
with browser.zoom.showZoomStatusPanel set to true. In the preferences panel 
with 2.53 and up too.


FRG



I set that pref to 'true', restarted, went to Preferences > Appearance > 
Content and I don't see anything different there.


No zoom control in the status bar either.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.5




Pref is only exposed in 2.53 and up:
 > In the preferences panel with 2.53 and up too.

 >
 > No zoom control in the status bar either.

Classic or modern theme? If third party it probably needs a change.

FRG


Classic theme.

Also tried a new profile with my 2.49.5 as Ant suggested and no luck.

I'll consider installing the 2.53.1 beta when available.


me too

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Re: Next unofficial 2.53.1 needs a new Lightning version

[GerardJan]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 10/18/2019 04:48 PM:

If you don't run the unofficial 2.53.1 you can stop reading.


Oké, I won't read it, thanx for the tip, keep up the good work


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Re: Ubuntuzilla install of Seamonkey 2.49.5 missing file

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MRoss-GMX wrote on 10/15/2019 05:33 AM:

Sat, 12 Oct 2019 00:31 -0400 Jonathan N. Little wrote:
MRoss-GMX wrote:

I could also use one partition on the Lenovo R60e to install a newer
Ubuntu or other package, maybe Lubuntu of at least 14.04 LTS if
available, 16.04 LTS if necessary. If it crashes it is only that
partition, lest GRUB get hurt. I suspect a GRUB problem for a while
now, and no update to it for years. What a mess. I delayed too long.


I think your problem is the GMA 950 old Intel video. Support problems
with newer kernels. You can try editing the boot parameter in grub and add

i915.lvds_use_ssc=0
supposed to fix it.


I wondered about the graphics sys in this thing, so will try it. Been
a while since I edited GRUB. Carefully!


But you do have really old hardware. A newer T430 are going for @
$100-$150 comes with a 3-4 gen i5. I have a L530 I bought a few years
ago $200 running 18.04 no problems.


I am looking for a newer machine, just not up to date on which is
best, and overloaded with other matters.


 I have an ASUS desktop with 4GB RAM and an inbuilt Intel Graphics, I am very 
happy with it..


Thanks!

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Re: A new SeaMonkey web forum! (OT)

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Ant wrote on 10/14/2019 09:53 PM:

On 10/13/2019 3:49 PM, meagain wrote:

 Original Message 
Why is this old ant still sick daily and almost all day, but with a nasty 
allergy (leaks, sneezes, and itches)? No cold, flu like from the end of 
August from this stupid old body, etc. :(


Get Well soon Ant!


Thanks, Meagain. :)


+yes mi tambien

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
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Re: Opening Composer window by itself

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Edward Diener wrote on 10/10/2019 04:39 PM:
Is it possible to open the Composer window window of SeaMonkey without starting 
SeaMonkey itself ?

no

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.5 released!

[GerardJan]

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 10/05/2019 10:22 PM:

sean wrote:

Ant wrote:

8:29PM [Flexo(~rbot@...)] ::seamonkeyblog:: SeaMonkey 2.49.5 has been
released! @
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2019/09/04/seamonkey-2-49-5-has-been-released/
(by ewong)

However, I don't see a
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.5/ web page.
I'll wait... :(


Is it ever going to return to Ubuntuzilla?


Mine updated:

$ apt-cache policy seamonkey-mozilla-build
seamonkey-mozilla-build:
   Installed: 2.49.5-0ubuntu1
   Candidate: 2.49.5-0ubuntu1
   Version table:
  *** 2.49.5-0ubuntu1 500
 500
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/mozilla/apt
all/main amd64 Packages
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status




yum -y update (redhat fedora)

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Re: Does SeaMonkey have a sync feature like in Firefox?

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Ant wrote on 10/05/2019 09:49 PM:

On 10/5/2019 5:24 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Ant wrote:
To share my bookmarks, histories, etc. between multiple devices (e.g., 
Windows, Linux, iOS, etc.)?


Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


This has been broken for ages. Might be possible to set up your own Sync 1.1 
server in 2.49.5.
The 1.1 code was removed in later Gecko versions. There is a bug open to fix 
it and support 1.5 but this needs a Firefox account. Personally I don't think 
sync 1.5 will ever happen and I would rather restore 1.1 in 2.53 and up 
versions. Then we can decide if we should set up our own sync 1.1 server. 
Either way help welcome :)


Oh, darn it. :(

+1

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Re: Go Fund me

[GerardJan]

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 10/01/2019 03:47 PM:

Hawker wrote:

On 9/30/2019 9:06 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 9/30/19 8:46 PM, Hawker wrote:

A few months ago I discovered that GoFundMe does not display properly.
The text is bunched up in the cover photo. I tried various other UA strings 
and all the usual stuff that fixes this for me with no luck. It displays 
properly in FireFox.


Are others seeing this? Any fix or just  add this to the, sigh, increasing 
list of websites that don't fully work with Seamonkey?


Doesn't work with SeaMonkey in safe mode? Doesn't work with a test profile?



Not sure how to do "safe mode" but I made a new profile and same problem
Here is a random example. Is the text below the picture or in side it?

https://www.gofundme.com/f/deputy-sandeep-singh-dhaliwal-scholarship-fund


In my case the text overlays the pictures.


In my case as well

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Re: Themes

[GerardJan]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 09/29/2019 09:58 PM:

sesli...@gmail.com wrote:

I really made a mess of things.  I failed to backup one very important pref 
file before I deleted the 32-bit version, and installed the 64-bit version.  I 
had to re-create all my mail and news folders; lost my Local Folders with tons 
of saved files and folders. I was able to bet my bookmarks from the saved old 
profile.  Also, although I was able to read and send msgs. via News, I must 
have changed something because now I get an error msg. there that says> 
"Unknown Protocol" So now I am resorting to using Google Groups!


The preferences and mail news data is usually not in the program folder so I 
wonder why you have the problem. Usually a remove and reinstall should be all 
wnat is needed is you change architectures.


It is that /google chrome/ asks for money on my *linux box*,
otherwise I would use /chrome/

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Re: 64-bit SM vs. 32-bit SM

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 09/29/2019 10:57 PM:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
I have two computers, one a 32-bit Win7 machine and the other a 64-bit Win7 
machine. So I downloaded the two different "versions" of SM 2.49.5, planning 
to install the appropriate versions on the corresponding machines.


Is there any reason to be concerned that my profile data will no longer be 
interchangeable between the two machines? I've always used exactly the same 
32-bit versions of SM on both machines, and felt confident to copy the 
\Mozilla folder back and forth without incident.


Thanks.

It should work fine. Lightning need be be reinstalled if it gets disabled (see 
release notes) but that is all.


Well, I've never had Lightning, so each of the installers will create a virgin 
installation.


rien ne va plus


Thanks.




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Re: Yahoo e-mail not working with SM v.2.49.4.

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Henrik37 wrote on 09/27/2019 07:14 PM:
For reasons that have me completely confused, the SM v.2.49.4 e-mail client will 
no longer download Yahoo (now owned by Verizon) e-mail messages via the POP 
interface.


Does anyone have any information on this problem and how to fix it?



Dear Henrik,

You might consider using the /imap/ interface


Thanks, in advance, for any and all guidance, suggestions, etc.



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Re: another one bites the dust - when will the successor to 2.49.5 be released?

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David E. Ross wrote on 09/26/2019 05:07 PM:

On 9/26/2019 1:31 AM, Ant wrote:

On 9/25/2019 12:34 PM, David E. Ross wrote:


[snipped]


I have encountered only one Web site that does not work with SeaMonbkey,
even if I spoof Firefox or Internet Explorer.  It is

...
http://web.skype.com is another. https://www.mlb.com is a little broken
especially with its https://www.mlb.com/standings that was mentioned in
"MLB standings -- just me?" newsgroup thread last week.

It sucks. More and more web sites are doing this. Even if they do work,
they are bloated and slow like on Facebook, LinkedIn, Google News, etc. :> 

;-)

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.5

I read your reply and immediately tried the Skype site.  I had no
problems with the home page at  or downloading
the full installer of a newer version of Skype from
.  I did not try any other pages from the
Skype site.




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Re: Yahoo e-mail not working with SM v.2.49.5

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Henrik37 wrote on 09/25/2019 05:01 AM:

My Yahoo e-mail has quit working with SM 2.49.5.

I am also having other strange e-mail responses with other e-mail accounts on 
Google and Verizon.


Anybody have any sort of explanation, suggestions, etc.  I'm really confused.


I use yahoomail /gertjanvin...@gmail.com/ with the /imap/ interface under 2.49.5
it works like champ.

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Re: How to find where a specific bookmark is in my SM's Bookmark Manager?

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EE wrote on 09/23/2019 07:03 PM:

Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 9/22/2019 8:44 AM, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2019-09-21 4:19 p.m., Ant wrote:
I have so many bookmarks (since Netscape days (yep, I'm old!)) that I have 
to organize them into folders. I know my bookmarks exist when I do searches, 
but the found bookmarks doesn't tell me where they are in the manager. Is 
there a way to know where exactly my bookmarks are in its manager (e.g., 
which folders?)?


1. Go to the bookmarked page.
2. Click on the bookmark icon in the location bar. Beside "Folder", it should 
tell you the name of the folder the bookmark resides in.
3. If you don't know where that folder is located, click on the down arrow 
beside it, which will open the folder tree.




The problem with this approach is that if the bookmarked URL now redirects to 
a different location (or even replaces 'http' with https') the bookmark icon 
just creates a new bookmark instead of opening the Edit Bookmark dialog.


Lem Johnson


That is why one should have an extension that checks the validity of bookmarks.  
I have one for every browser except Safari, and I have an external application 
to check Safar's bookmarks.




I use *safari* on my /iPAD/, but I do not like it.

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Re: Amber Alert Web Page Problem

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🐴 Mr. Ed 🐴 wrote on 09/19/2019 02:47 PM:

This web page does not load properly in SM 2.49.5 nor MS Edge.
Anyone else having a problem?

http://www.missingkids.org/poster/AMBER/30322/11503/screen?fbclid=IwAR2iqX4KO1FMe-fWE6U61GoeLtVvjXqX7LkC0288y2e1S0K9FWTRlNhW2EA

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Dear Ed,
I could load the page under 2.49.5
But not her picture:
Associated companions

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Re: Images not expanding

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Hawker wrote on 07/31/2019 03:31 PM:

Can anyone tell me if this is a dated SM issue or if I need to change a setting?

Recently on Home Depot's website when I click on images to expand they do not 
open. It works fine on FireFox. Spoofing UA did not help.

Does it work for others?

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-Slim-Directional-4-in-Color-Selectable-Canless-LED-Recessed-Kit-91279/306079882 


I got this:

Access Denied
You don't have permission to access 
"http://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-Slim-Directional-4-in-Color-Selectable-Canless-LED-Recessed-Kit-91279/306079882"; 
on this server.


Reference #18.b735dd58.1564595484.77a6188

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Build identifier: 20180711183816
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Re: WEB site work with Chrome only... why???

[GerardJan]

Danny Kile wrote on 12/25/2018 07:53 PM:
The following website will not work with SM or Internet Explorer. I had to load 
Chrome to get it to work. When typing inn the search bar with SM it does not 
show the charters that you type just spaces. However, if you type in "badge" and 
then click the magnifier glass it will search. Now in IE you can not even type 
into the search filed at all. In Chrome everything work as you would expect.


Anyone know why this is the case?

Thank you for you assistance.


https://bluemail.help/search/?badge?lang=en


I installed /chrome/, but it asked for /money/ and i do not have money.
bug *google-chrome*


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Re: Mail filter problem

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Paul Marwick wrote on 07/27/2019 05:00 PM:

WaltS48 wrote:


Do you get an error message you could share with the group?

I've copied my production versions mail and newsgroups "msgFilterRules.dat" 
files between it and test, beta and daily versions, and have always had to 
associate the filter with the folder it was moving the message to.


I think I got a pop-up warning, selected the folder in the drop-down, clicked 
OK and they worked automatically from then on.




Well, I've solved it, though I have no idea why it was necessary. As a last 
option, I deleted each of the filters and rebuilt them from scratch. Now its all 
working again in both Seamonkey and Thunderbird. Strange...




I am always oké, not using filters!!!

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Re: Email won't work

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Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 07/21/2019 06:44 PM:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Wes Stokes wrote:

When my wife tries to send an email or forward something in SeaMonkey
she keeps getting a block that says "Login to server: smtp.west.cox.net
failed, then under that are three smaller blocks giving the option to
"Retry, "Enter New Password", Cancel. I have entered new passwords and
it still won't work. My account works just great. I have checked the
settings as well as I can, (not a "Techie"). Can anyone help me with
this problem???

Wes


Outgoing SMTP port 465
Incoming port 995

See this site for Cox settings:
https://support.postbox-inc.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003096153-Email-Settings-for-COX 






This looks to be an "Outgoing" problem only and I see the required
settings are identical for IMAP and POP.
Is there any significance in "smtp.west.cox.net" being used, rather than
"smtp.cox.net" or is that just an internal mapping?


idk the answer to cox west question.
I use ATT.


i use google an duck duck go

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Re: Email won't work

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Wes Stokes wrote on 07/19/2019 11:29 PM:
When my wife tries to send an email or forward something in SeaMonkey she keeps 
getting a block that says "Login to server: smtp.west.cox.net failed, then under 
that are three smaller blocks giving the option to "Retry, "Enter New Password", 
Cancel. I have entered new passwords and it still won't work. My account works 
just great. I have checked the settings as well as I can, (not a "Techie"). Can 
anyone help me with this problem???


Wes


Are you using /imap/ or /pop/ ?

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Re: Extension support switch

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Rubens wrote on 07/16/2019 09:48 AM:

Hello,


Is any of these new advanced Seamonkey versions like 2.53 and above going to 
drop XPI support

and move to WebEx like happened to Firefox ?


I don't think so



Just asked because I am worried about being prevented from using some of my 
current extensions.



Thanks in advance,


RF



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Re: Do filters work in (Win7) SM 2.49.5??

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Daniel wrote on 07/12/2019 08:46 AM:

David E. Ross wrote on 12/07/2019 1:04 AM:

On 7/10/2019 11:32 PM, Daniel wrote:

A couple of days ago, one of my UseNet groups, alt.tv.red-dwarf,
received eight messages (Yeah!!) but when I looked at the group they
were all "Solution Manuals" messages posted by 'marcdemo...@gmail.com'
(Boo!)

I initially set up a filter just for the "From" "Contains" 'marcdemoura'
and ran the filter on that one group. No change.

The next day, when the messages still had not been filtered, I altered
the filter entry to include the full "From" "Contains"
'marcdemo...@gmail.com' but still the messages are not being set to
'Mark as read' or 'Ignore'.

So are filters working correctly in SM 2.49.5??


I think filters do not work on newsgroup messages already downloaded.

When you set up a filter, at the bottom of that screen you can select a 
particular newsgroup ("Run selected Filter(s) on") and then click the "Run Now" 
button.


It has worked previously, but not now ... at least for me!! ;-(


:-( ;-)

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Re: Do filters work in (Win7) SM 2.49.5??

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Daniel wrote on 07/12/2019 08:46 AM:

David E. Ross wrote on 12/07/2019 1:04 AM:

On 7/10/2019 11:32 PM, Daniel wrote:

A couple of days ago, one of my UseNet groups, alt.tv.red-dwarf,
received eight messages (Yeah!!) but when I looked at the group they
were all "Solution Manuals" messages posted by 'marcdemo...@gmail.com'
(Boo!)

I initially set up a filter just for the "From" "Contains" 'marcdemoura'
and ran the filter on that one group. No change.

The next day, when the messages still had not been filtered, I altered
the filter entry to include the full "From" "Contains"
'marcdemo...@gmail.com' but still the messages are not being set to
'Mark as read' or 'Ignore'.

So are filters working correctly in SM 2.49.5??


I think filters do not work on newsgroup messages already downloaded.

When you set up a filter, at the bottom of that screen you can select a 
particular newsgroup ("Run selected Filter(s) on") and then click the "Run Now" 
button.


It has worked previously, but not now ... at least for me!! ;-(


;-)

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Re: Moving up/down in belgian site very slow compared with the french site

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Ant wrote on 07/08/2019 10:21 PM:

On 7/6/2019 12:08 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Rainer Bielefeld wrote on 06-07-19 17:05:

On 04.07.2019 00:30, Ray_Net wrote:
With SM - Navigating up and down in a page is slower on a page of the belgian 


NOT reproducible with installation of  unofficial (by wg9s) en-US SeaMonkey 
2.53 (NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:56.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/56.0 Build 
20190329130005 (Default Classic Theme, German Language Pack active) on German 
WIN7 64bit


CU

Rainer


Therefore ... I just have to wait until this version will be officially 
released as "stable"  - until that time FireFox is the detour...

Thanks for trying.


Yeah. It will be a very long wait too. :(


:-( ,-<8

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Re: Moving up/down in belgian site very slow compared with the french site

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cyberzen wrote on 07/04/2019 09:39 AM:

Yamo' a écrit :

May you can the latest Seamonkey : 2.49.4 (your are using the 2.49.1
version).

same with 2.49.4

yes

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Re: Website Blocked

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EE wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/21/19 9:27 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

victoria.l.cross...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, 6 November 2017 15:18:41 UTC, Tom Pamin  wrote:

Can anyone tell me why this site is blocked by SM and not IE? It is just
a furniture store.
hayneedle.com


I am having the same issue all this time later! On both mobile and laptop.



Curious.
Back when this was first reported, I checked to see if I could access the 
site.  No problems.
Now I'm also getting this error, both using Seamonkey and Firefox 60.6.3esr.  
I can set this machine up to use two different ISPs (either/or, not both at 
once) and I get this error with both.
This is not a problem with Virus Scanners (Linux) or with Add-ons (the 
Firefox is vanilla).  It has to be something at the other end.


ping works, although it returns the site name as www.hayneedle.com.distil.us 
but if I try to browse http://www.hayneedle.com.distil.us/ I get:

Staging Not Enabled
Staging has not been enabled for this domain.
Please contact Distil support to request that a staging domain be enabled.

Is "distil.us" the web hoster?




I have no problem with 

 I have this: Access To Website Blocked


I am not seeing the page exactly blocked.  The content briefly appears, only to 
be replaced by a blank grey page.  It is not the first time I have seen that, 
and I have no idea why it happens.  It is not the ad-blocker causing it.





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Re: YouTube web site problem but NOT Video playback

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Robert Traynor wrote:

On 11/05/2019 8:51 pm, chokito wrote:

I had the same problem with SM 2.53. Now I use different UAs per website.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:66.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/66.0
general.useragent.override.instagram.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; 
rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
general.useragent.override.netflix.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; 
rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
general.useragent.override.youtube.com;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; 
rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0


I will give your settings a fly.

BTW, I have found that setting the UA to FF 62.0 works on YouTube but 
_*not*_**FF 63.0...!


BobT


Dear Bob,
I do not use /firefox/, only *seamonkey*

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this should not reach you

[GerardJan]

/ever/

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Re: All extensions allegedly broken under Firefox

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Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Steve Dunn wrote:

On 2019-05-04 13:39, David E. Ross wrote:


SeaMonkey does not require extensions to be signed, at least in the
current end-user release 2.49.4.



 Which is largely a moot point since there have been few if any updates to 
most of these extensions for SeaMonkey's obsolete extension system for the 
last couple of years.


-Steve


That would not have helped, and I don't think Seamonkey's extension system has 
been "obsolete" for *that* long.




Jesus was *not* a reckless son

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Re: All extensions allegedly broken under Firefox

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Ant wrote:

On 5/4/2019 10:17 AM, EE wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Here is something I saw reported a few minutes ago: 
https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/03/a-glitch-is-breaking-all-firefox-extensions/ (it 
wanted me to confirm cookies so I opened it in Private Mode).

Speaking strictly for myself, I have two extensions installed under Seamonkey:
- Privacy Badger (already broken, an update is available but won't install)
- Lightning (appears to be working normally)

My Firefox has "OpenH264 Video Codec provided by Cisco" as a Plugin but no 
Extensions so I can't comment on the veracity of that report.


All of my SeaMonkey add-ons are still working.  I have not seen updates for 
most of them since 2016.  I have to install manually the ones for which I have 
seen updates.


Ditto.

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Re: Unsupported Browser Notice

[GerardJan]

NFN Smith wrote:

EE wrote:



Is there some big deal about forged user-agents?  Why should the owner of a 
website care whether a user-agent is faked or not?  Besides, if the fake has 
all the navigator elements filled in properly, the fake is hard to detect.


There shouldn't be, but there is.

In the days of IE dominance, a lot of the issue was that sites demanding IE only 
had ActiveX scripting, which could not be run in other browsers.  Although there 
were extensions for Mozilla browsers, that still excluded non-Windows users.


Why can people not just validate their code with validator.w3.org?  Then they 
would not have to worry about their pages not working with some browsers.


They should, yes, but not all developers really care about standards, and some 
proportion would prefer to simply develop for one browser (usually the one that 
they use personally), and not bother testing their code against other browsers.  
With the growth of Google Chrome, that's now becoming more or less the standard 
that they're writing for.


With Mozilla-derived browsers, a user-agent override for a particular site 
seems to work fine.


With the demise of IE (and ActiveX scripting) and Chrome becoming the new de 
facto standard, I think that Google does enough with w3.org standards, I find it 
unusual that I have to resort to spoofing, especially with Seamonkey's ability 
to advertise Firefox compatibility.


However, the issues aren't so much a matter of compatibility of scripting 
capacity, but more often of user presentation.  Over the years, I've seen some 
number of sites (particularly financial services) that may be militant about 
demanding specific browsers, and exclusion of everything else. With Mozilla 
browsers, this is Firefox specifically, and I think that was the issue that 
finally caused the Seamonkey devs to add the option of Firefox compatibility.  
In my experience, I can't think of a case where I've seen a site that demands 
Firefox (even to the exclusion of Seamonkey with Firefox compatibility), but the 
site we're discussing here seems to be one of the very few exceptions.


With financial sites, I think the issue tends to be one of user support.  Thus, 
if a user is having problems with a particular site, and talks to the support 
people, the support people want a very short list of browsers that they have 
experience with, and where the support people can say, "Do this, this, that and 
this, and don't do that", and be done with it.  They don't want to hear "I'm 
running a different browser that just happens to have all the capabilities that 
you need".  From the perspective of the support people, they don't know how 
Seamonkey is different than Firefox, and so the standard response is "if it's 
not Firefox, we don't support it".  Some sites are willing to go the route of 
"use something else at your own risk", and some are more aggressive about 
disallowing use of anything other than their preferences.


If they're actively disallowing, then I think the primary thing that they're 
addressing is the case of a non-technical user that tends to consume a lot of 
help resources that is using a browser that they didn't install themselves, but 
where somebody else installed it for them.


I agree that such inflexibility is stupid, but at that point, you've entered the 
Dilbert sphere, where there's managerial decision-making made for technical 
issues by people that don't understand the technology.


Smith


+1

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Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

[GerardJan]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Reiner,

please send me an email.

FRG

Reiner Schug wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

...

    Q: Why are we moving away from IRC? IRC is fine!
    A: IRC is not fine.

...
The rest of the article explains why this is to be considered so, and
yes - spam is part of that.



A: IRC is not fine.

new Q: WTF is wrong with IRC? Explain.

Why not make a fucking FaceBook Group instead?

"to work in an environment that we can’t make sure is healthy, safe and 
productive."


Oh my god! Like we need a kindergarden...


not for me, i am not injected for the measles !



ciao



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Re: Staying alive

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Jim S wrote:

On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 22:09:27 +0200, Reiner Schug wrote:


Hi!

Please, Seamonkey - stay alive.

All other Browsers fucked up their UI / Prefs / Privacy.

It already smelled when Goodger forked Phoenix/Firebird...
The UI fucked up... then he went to Google.

Seamonkey is the only Browser I trust.
Keep up the good work.

ciao...


Agreed.
I normally use Firefox because it's the 'best of the rest', but it has been
'doctored' for no good reason and spoiled as a result.
If only SM was available on Android I would use it like a shot.



it is a pity that i cannot use *SM* on my /iPAD/, i have only 32GBytes of flash 
memory...


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Re: cannot access microsoft office website

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Norman Fuchs wrote:

On 4/13/2019 4:31 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

On 11.04.2019 22:33, Norman Fuchs wrote:

A.  I had cookies blocked



That means "problem solved"?

Yes, indeed.


how do you block cookies ?

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Re: Macros

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Ed Mullen wrote:
In SeaMonkey 2.49 the "macros" item is  missing from tools menu. Anyone know 
where it went?




/Dear Ed,
I loaded in version 2.48,
but I could not find *macros* in the tools menu either!/

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Re: pdfjs is built into firefox--do we need pdfjs?

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Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 18-02-19 03:54:

On 2/17/2019 6:07 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:

G. Ross wrote:

Mr. Cheese wrote:

Not sure when it started but I can no longer view/print PDF's I may have
to ditch SeaMonkey (been a user since newscape days)
Anyone know how to get around this problem before I take such drastic
action?

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Get the Foxit plugin.  And stop advertising AVG.


Since Firefox 19 pdfjs has been built in and FFox one no longer requires
pdfjs to be installed to view pdfs.

Does this mean that pdfjs is also built in to SeaMonkey as well? Do
users of SeaMonkey need to install pdfjs separately to view pdfs?


SeaMonkey does not contain pdf.js.  But it can be installed as an
extension.

Per my prior comment in this thread, however, PDF files can either be
displayed in the browser window or must be downloaded for viewing with a
non-browser application.  This depends on how a Web server is configured
and on how the PDF file is identified on that server.


I prefer that the pdf will be opened with my prefered pdf-reader outside SM.


I have several ways to handle pdf files on /fedora 20/:

[gerardjan@localhost ~]$ apropos pdf
any2djvu (1) - Convert .ps/.ps.gz/.pdf to .djvu
djvudigital (1)  - creates DjVu files from PS or PDF files.
dvipdf (1)   - Convert TeX DVI file to PDF using ghostscript and dvips
foomatic-ppdfile (1) - Generate a PPD file for a given printer/driver combo
ghostscript (1)  - Ghostscript (PostScript and PDF language interpreter a...
gs (1)   - Ghostscript (PostScript and PDF language interpreter a...
gscan2pdf (1p)   - A GUI to produce PDFs or DjVus from scanned documents
gsnd (1) - Run ghostscript (PostScript and PDF engine) without di...
htmldoc (1)  - convert html source files into html, postscript, or pdf.
Image::ExifTool::PDF (3pm) - Read PDF meta information
Image::ExifTool::WritePDF (3pm) - Write PDF meta information
luatex (1)   - An extended version of pdfTeX using Lua as an embedded...
pdfshuffler (1)  - Application for PDF Merging, Rearranging, and Splitting
pdf2dsc (1)  - generate a PostScript page list of a PDF document
pdf2ps (1)   - Ghostscript PDF to PostScript translator
PDF::API2 (3pm)  - Facilitates the creation and modification of PDF files
PDF::API2::Annotation (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Basic::PDF::Array (3pm) - Corresponds to a PDF array. Inherits fro...
PDF::API2::Basic::PDF::Bool (3pm) - A special form of PDF::String which holds...
PDF::API2::Basic::PDF::Dict (3pm) - PDF Dictionaries and Streams. Inherits fr...
PDF::API2::Basic::PDF::File (3pm) - Holds the trailers and cross-reference ta...
PDF::API2::Basic::PDF::Filter (3pm) - Abstract superclass for PDF stream filters
PDF::API2::Basic::PDF::Name (3pm) - Inherits from PDF::API2::Basic::PDF::Stri...
PDF::API2::Basic::PDF::Null (3pm) - PDF Null type object. This is a subclass ...
PDF::API2::Basic::PDF::Number (3pm) - Numbers in PDF. Inherits from PDF::API2...
PDF::API2::Basic::PDF::Objind (3pm) - PDF indirect object reference. Also act...
PDF::API2::Basic::PDF::Page (3pm) - Represents a PDF page, inherits from PDF:...
PDF::API2::Basic::PDF::Pages (3pm) - a PDF pages hierarchical element. Inheri...
PDF::API2::Basic::PDF::String (3pm) - PDF String type objects and superclass ...
PDF::API2::Basic::PDF::Utils (3pm) - Utility functions for PDF library
PDF::API2::Content (3pm) - Methods for adding graphics and text to a PDF
PDF::API2::Lite (3pm) - lite pdf creation
PDF::API2::NamedDestination (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Outline (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Page (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Resource (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Resource::BaseFont (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Resource::CIDFont (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Resource::CIDFont::CJKFont (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Resource::CIDFont::TrueType (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Resource::ColorSpace (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Resource::ColorSpace::Inde... (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Resource::ColorSpace::Sepa... (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Resource::ExtGState (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Resource::Font (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Resource::Font::BdFont (3pm) - Module for using bitmapped Fonts.
PDF::API2::Resource::Font::CoreFont (3pm) - Module for using the 14 PDF built...
PDF::API2::Resource::Font::SynFont (3pm) - Module for using synthetic Fonts.
PDF::API2::Resource::UniFont (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Resource::XObject (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Resource::XObject::Form (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Resource::XObject::Form::B... (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Resource::XObject::Form::B... (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Resource::XObject::Image (3pm) - (unknown subject)
PDF::API2::Resource::XObject::Image::... (3pm) - (un

Fwd: my test

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finally i want to read what i wanna read and write what i don't want to write

¿ makes that sense ?

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Re: is it possible to add/correct signons with sqlite?

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Rubens wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 07/02/2019 02:06:

JAS wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/30/2019 9:03 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:


I am encountering a problem where my power company has made
changes to
their website and my remembered password is no longer used and I
cannot
find a way to get SM 2.49.5 to remember it on the new page.

Given this is it possible for me to manually add or correct the
signon
with sqlite tools?  I opened the db with SQLite manager in SM and can
see the entry.  I did NOT attempt to make changes there as I suspect
that would cause problems with SM open.  I assume other SQLite tools
would offer similar capabilities and could be used with SM closed.


In previous versions, if you entered new data for a site where the
Password Manager had remembered your login/password, the PM would
prompt
you to update or not. Doesn't it do that anymore?

Failing that, my next fallback would be to go into the PM and
delete the
site. Then login and the PM will ask whether to save the data, you
should approve.

I like the old interface:

Enter the site name in the search window to see a short list with only
that word.



I also use the old interface, but the problem is the power company
changed the URL where the username/password are requested and for
whatever reason I cannot get SM to remember this login.  My hope is
that
I can copy the existing entry and edit the URL to the new one and have
it used.

Dave



Well, I just found out that as best I can tell signons.sqlite is no
longer being used by SM 2.49.5 for password management.  Looking a bit
more it seems that logins.json is where this is now being maintained.

Guess I will have to see if I can edit that file instead to update the
login for this website.

Dave



That means the Passwords Manager button -- an extra button for the
Toolbar Buttons extension -- will no longer work.  I use it frequently
for updating my passwords, something I do for security.  It appears that
I will not be updating SeaMonkey.


Is the Passwords Manager button something you created or was it once a
button listed for the PreBar tool bar?


I use this addon -- NOTE the version, this one works with SeaMonkey:

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/classic-password-editor/versions/?page=1#version-1.0.3 





Hi Jonathan,

Which Seamonkey version are you using with that extension version ?


He seemed to be using:
*User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4*


BR,

Rubens



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Re: Stopping FoxNews Videos ?

[GerardJan]

Daniel wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 28/01/2019 11:45 AM:

Daniel wrote:

EE wrote on 27/01/2019 5:56 AM:

DoctorBill wrote:

EE wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

EE wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Mason83 wrote on 24-01-19 08:14:

On 24/01/2019 02:22, DoctorBill wrote:


I go to FoxNews and if I click on a story, the video
automatically starts playing. This essentially slows my
system down to a crawl.

Is there some "Toggle" in SM that I can click off where
a video only runs if I allow it ?

media.autoplay.enabled = false


I have tested this option .. the side effect is that:

When on certain sites I try to start a video >
Impossible - the video would not start until I put: 
media-autoplay.enable = true.


This extension makes it easy to toggle media autoplay.  I
keep it disabled most of the time, but I can easily toggle it
to enabled if I need to. 
https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/autoplay-toggle-nonrestartless/ 






HOW do I toggle this ? Where is the switch ? I looked , but
can't find it.Help

DB

The extension sets up a toolbar button.  Put it on a toolbar and
it is easy to toggle.


I can find this in the Add-ons Manager listed as: "Autoplay Toggle
(Non-Restartless) 1.01" I can't drag anything !  It is not on the How do I 
get it into (onto) the Toolbar ? Ben searching Google for

"How-To", it just says copy and paste. Copy WHAT ?  WHERE is the
thing to copy ?  Ctrl-C ? Tell me where to get this extension -
PLEASE !

DB
Did you look in the customize window?  Many extensions put toolbar buttons 
in there.



The post of DocBill's that you are replying here to, shows in my SM as
having been sent at 2:49AM on 26/01/2019 (or Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019
07:49:36 -0800).

Did you notice his post, which shows to me as having been made at 1:44PM
on 26/01/2019 (or Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 18:44:43 -0800), in another
reply to you, EE, in which DocBill simply stated "IT WORKS ! "??

So I'm guessing he has fixed his problem!!


Yes - I got it to work.
Where would I post (on here) to say that ALL IS WELL ?

DoctorBill


I don't know, DocBill  maybe a response to your previous latest response!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfjZcLfPt8Y

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Re: when do you think we will see the next official SM release?

[GerardJan]

Yamo' wrote:

Yamo' wrote on 1/26/19 7:28 PM:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 1/26/19 12:41 PM:

  > But the tests with 2.53 were not successful.

What didn't work?

FRG



The switching of profile (or maybe it was on 2.57).

Now it works.



Just a thing : I didn't found the langpacks.

Can I modify a 2.49.4 langpack to be compatible with 2.53 or it is a way
to have strange bugs?




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Re: LastPass

[GerardJan]

David H. Durgee wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

r wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 01/22/2019 08:01 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

Anyone have an idea where to download a version of LastPass that
works with Seamonkey?

I seem not to have saved a copy of v 3.3.4, which still works
reasonably well; but I'm setting up a new computer and need the
*.xpi file.

There are lots of references to these older versions in newsgroups
and forums, but the links I've found are all dead.


For the dead links you might try
Internet Archive: Wayback Machine
http://archive.org/web/web.php




(None of the 4.n.n versions work with Seamonkey, even with the
extension converter.)





Thanks - I should have thought of that!

But in this case it didn't work; all the earlier versions have been
scrubbed from the Lastpass website, and for some reason I can't find
them on Wayback either.

If you have on your other computer, go to where your profile is stored.
Expand folder, click on extensions, find the extension that you want.
Copy it to your desktop. Then drag into SeaMonkey. (while SeaMonkey
is running on your new computer.



I go into this folder and find quite a few *.xpi files for known
extensions; but none for Lastpass. Same on my laptop.

There are also a dozen or so *.xpi with random strings of characters
before the extension; one of those may be hiding Lastpass, but I can't
find any evidence of it.

I've put the Lastpass extension into Firefox and Chrome, so I'm able to
use my zillions of passwords -- but already I'm missing many features of
the Seamonkey browser interface!


Have you inspected the content of those *.xpi files, in particular the
chrome.manifest file?  These files are .zip files and contents can be
viewed with any tool that can work with a .zip file.

Dave



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Re: Stopping FoxNews Videos ?

[GerardJan]

DoctorBill wrote:

I go to FoxNews and if I click on a story,
the video automatically starts playing.
This essentially slows my system down to a crawl.


¡ I never go to Fox News, I cannot afford it !


Is there some "Toggle" in SM that I can click off
where a video only runs if I allow it ?

DoctorBill



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Re: Help~ Lost Side Panel

[GerardJan]

Lori wrote:

Lost my left-side panel of all Inbox folders and subfolders with mucho mail.
All I can see is the message section.
This happened once before a long time ago and I don't remember the fix.

Lori


type F9

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Re: Firefox uninstalls

[GerardJan]

Danny Kile wrote:

Mike C wrote:

Yes, I know this is a SeaMonkey forum BUT.
I don't know where else to ask for help on Firefox.

Problem is:
Every time I restart computer (Win 7) Firefox uninstalls.

I thought since it's also Mozilla, one of you might know how to fix.
Thanks in advance,
Mike C.

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the same thing.


Microsoft Link:

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Re: Word of Warning !

[GerardJan]

FredW wrote:

On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 01:21:34 +0200, Ray_Net
 wrote:


On the AVIRA forum, it's written:
-
download avira from this link: http://www.avira.com/en/avira-free-antivirus
-

Downloading elsewhere is suspicious ...


NOTE:
When you said:
"Your " friend" "MD" is apparently one of those noobs, blaming software
from some/any source for stupid mistakes they make without realizing
what they are doing."

Don't be so  blaming the guy - because the OPS said:
"My friend is a retired..."
So, he is surely older and less specialist than you in computer science.
So you have to excuse it.


I tried to answer you, but the moderator removed my message.
Be assured that the so-called personal attack (whatever that may be) was
NOT directed at you.



[by the way I am also older and retired a long time ago]





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Re: Word of Warning !

[GerardJan]

FredW wrote:

On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 15:18:44 -0700, DoctorBill  wrote:


I have a friend who downloaded the so called FREE  "AVIRA" - an
anti-virus program from Germany.  Google 'avira' to see it.

He ran it and it said he has a Virus and that he now  HAS TO  buy the
anti-virus program OR  they (Avira)  will lock up his computer !
THAT is called Extortion !Germans.
My friend is a retired MD, so I believe him.   He would not lie about that.

Take what I've written here as you will.  I thought I should relate this
to everyone on the Internet.



Please stop spreading FUD.

Avira is one of the most reliable antivirus as confirmed year in year
out by AV-Comparatives.
https://www.avira.com/en/downloads
http://www.av-comparatives.org/testmethod/summary-reports/


Your " friend"  "MD"  is apparently one of those noobs, blaming software
from some/any source for stupid mistakes they make without realizing
what they are doing.

Again a fine example how one nitwit spreads false rumors because he does
not know what he is doing.

Sir, you are disgusting blaming Germans in general for stupidity on your
side, you are lying and spreading a hoax.

Shame on you, excuses for your intolerable behavior are in order.



I do not need an antivirus program, I am running Unix (fedora/redhat)

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Re: Blocking/Allowing Cookies

[GerardJan]

xxyyz wrote:

Thank you for the link, FRG.  I don't use the DM, nor the "Don't
allow websites that set removed cookies to set future cookies", so
I don't think the bug discussions apply.

I did, however, figure out the answer to my second question - if I
block all cookies, then allow them from e.g. https://aaa.bbb.ccc,
cookies from https://bbb.ccc are blocked, but aaa.bbb.ccc can set
cookies that say the domain is bbb.ccc - does that make sense?

On 2018-09-14 10:49 AM, kakak wrote:

For some more insight how the permission api operates these days:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1479347

FRG
EE wrote:

xxyyz wrote:

On 2018-08-08 2:01 PM, EE wrote:

xxyyz wrote:

On 2018-08-04 2:32 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/4/2018 10:09 AM, xxyyz wrote:

If I block all cookies (Preferences/Privacy & Security\Cookies/
Block cookies), then allow session cookies from https://aaa.bbb
(in chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul),
are session cookies allowed from https://xxx.aaa.bbb?



I use the following strategy.  I do not block all cookies. Instead, I
allow cookies only from the domain of the Web site I requested.  I have
also blocked cookies from selected Web sites, primarily advertising
sites that might have cookies set by my select Web sites.

The key is that I located the file cookies.sqlite in my profile and
marked it as read-only.  All the cookies that get set as I surf the Web
are lost as soon as I terminate SeaMonkey.  That is, all of those
cookies are treated as session-only.

Sometimes, however, I want to keep a cookie.  Fortunately, that does not
often happen because the process is somewhat cumbersome.  To see my
process, go to .


Thank you for the response - but I'm asking a very basic question:
Does allowing cookies from a specific site allow cookies from "subsidiary" 
sites?  Same question when blocking cookies.


If you allow cookies from the second level domain, then they would be 
allowed from one of its specific third level domains as well.



Thank you.  Does the reverse apply - i.e. if I allow cookies from a
specific third level domain, are they allowed from the second level
domain?


No, not normally, unless you use a cookie handling extension that 
specifically allows that.  For my part, there is no way I want that to happen 
with a big domain.








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Re: Increase size of font in bookmarks

[GerardJan]

Lee wrote:

On 9/12/18, Andy K  wrote:

Is it possible to increase the size of font used in bookmarks?


Maybe something along these lines?
add this bit to userChrome.css

/*
  * increase the font size of bookmarks
  */
.bookmark-item { font-size: 150% !important; }


¡ that will be 1,5 * 12pts = 18pts !



which also sets the font size of the bookmarks toolbar; dunno if you
want that or not, but I don't know how to exclude it.

Lee




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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

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Daniel wrote:

stevekgr...@gmail.com wrote on 13/09/2018 8:38 AM:

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 12:07:54 PM UTC-5, no...@nonospam.org
wrote:

Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was
displaced to the top of the search box instead of being centered,
and as I typed in a search some of the words would spill over to a
second line in the search box. This happened only with SM, and it
happened on every computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back
again. I haven't seen this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or
Edge? Any ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!

John -- Q: What's the quickest way to get a mailbox full of spam? A: Post a 
message in any newsgroup using a real email address.


Therefore, please reply in this newsgroup. Thank you.


I am having the same problem.  Am running SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on a
Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit machine.  I have seen work arounds for
Win 7 Ultimate but not for my OS. Since this is a Google initiated
problem, seems to me Google should fix it instead of me having to
jump thru hoops for a work around.  I am not that webpage code
knoledgeable so I have no idea what folks are talking about when they


knowledgable so I have no idea what folks are talking about when they


talk about "about:config" or
"general.useragen.site_specific_overrides"  Any help greatly


general.useragent.site_specific_overrides


appreciated.

Steve, those two things you mention are not webpage coding, they are browser 
coding, if you like, because they can effect how *YOUR* browser works on *YOUR* 
computer.


If you type "about:config" (without the inverted commas) in your browser 
addressbar (or even just click on the term above), you should get a warning page 
advising you that any changes you make could break SeaMonkey. If you accept the 
warning, you will then see a screen listing all (well, almost all) the 
preferences that effect how SeaMonkey operates.


Some/Most will be set to "default" whilst some will be bolded and state "user 
set" because you changed something that effected how SM operated. Some of the 
preference names are relatively self-explanatory, whilst some might be mysterious!!





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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

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Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/11/2018 09:13 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/11/2018 10:29 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/11/2018 12:00 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 04:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:



Had problems with my WinXP machine.
Just ran your css suggestions. Still didn't get what I was looking for.
Are we describing the same thing.
I've a sample of desired output (1.9kB).
If the server does not accept attachments, where can I post it?
TIA


mozilla.test.multimedia accepts attachments.



Wouldn't this thread be OT there?





You can get the file from .
Let me know when you have downloaded the file so that I can then delete
it from my Web site.

Note that my profile is in a non-standard location.  Thus, the path to
my bookmarks.html file is non-standard.

However, the HTML file you provided seemed to have hierarchical
indentation the way you described.



Done. Will test later today. Thank you.




my profile is private

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Re: seamonkeyblog: End of an era… SeaMonkey’s old infrastructure.

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EE wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote on 11/09/2018 2:05 PM:

Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/09/11/end-of-an-era/

Can't wait to see the future of SeaMonkey. I wonder if this means no
more minor v2.49.x releases with security fixes. :(


No, it just means that we'll release the v2.49.x when we get
this mess cleared up.  And by "mess", I mean the new infrastructure
which is unfortunately, taking a lot longer to get running
properly than I had anticipated.

Mainly because I'm also trying to incorporate the build config
changes to be able to build both comm-as-topsrcdir and moz-as-top.

I do apologize for the delay.

Edmund


Whenever you guys get around to it, Edmund, that will be fine!!

Make sure you guys have a life outside SeaMonkey!! ;-)


I do, at least.  I have Pale Moon as well!



an I have icecat, but i do not use it

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Re: seamonkeyblog: End of an era… SeaMonkey’s old infrastructure.

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Ant wrote:

On 9/10/2018 10:37 PM, Wolf wrote:

Edmund Wong schrieb:

Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/09/11/end-of-an-era/

Can't wait to see the future of SeaMonkey. I wonder if this means no
more minor v2.49.x releases with security fixes. :(


No, it just means that we'll release the v2.49.x when we get
this mess cleared up.  And by "mess", I mean the new infrastructure
which is unfortunately, taking a lot longer to get running
properly than I had anticipated.

Mainly because I'm also trying to incorporate the build config
changes to be able to build both comm-as-topsrcdir and moz-as-top.

I do apologize for the delay.

Edmund


Wish you luck and please keep going!!!


Ditto! SM 4ever! :D


:p \:p


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Re: seamonkeyblog: End of an era… SeaMonkey’s old infrastructure.

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Ant wrote:

On 9/10/2018 10:37 PM, Wolf wrote:

Edmund Wong schrieb:

Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/09/11/end-of-an-era/

Can't wait to see the future of SeaMonkey. I wonder if this means no
more minor v2.49.x releases with security fixes. :(


No, it just means that we'll release the v2.49.x when we get
this mess cleared up.  And by "mess", I mean the new infrastructure
which is unfortunately, taking a lot longer to get running
properly than I had anticipated.

Mainly because I'm also trying to incorporate the build config
changes to be able to build both comm-as-topsrcdir and moz-as-top.

I do apologize for the delay.

Edmund


Wish you luck and please keep going!!!


Ditto! SM 4ever! :D


:P \:P


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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

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Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote on 11/09/2018 3:58 PM:

Example:

Now I can use adblock_plus-2.9.1-an+fx+sm+tb.xpi into SM
but I cannot use adblock_plus-3.0.1-an+fx.xpi into SM


talking about confusion, this is *infusion* !


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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

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Ray_Net wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 11-09-18 15:33:

Webextension support is planned for 2.57.



Thanks for giving me a hope to stay with SM.


there is always hope

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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

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David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/11/2018 7:43 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 04:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 01:48 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/5/2018 10:20 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 10:34 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/5/2018 1:50 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 12:38 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/4/2018 10:56 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

I'm creating a custom web page to display my SeaMonkey bookmarks
my way.
I have chosen to use nested unordered lists. I have ~3500
bookmarks in
     >500 folders nested several levels deep. I have two problems.

The default indentation is too large causing items to line-wrap.
The presence of bullets serves no purpose and is *UGLY*.

I've been wandering a convoluted path thru the web finding only
enough
to tantalize. I keep ending up on poorly designed pages.

Suggestions?




My bookmark hierarchy has four levels of folders.  I have the
following
in the userChrome.css file in the chrome folder of my profile:
 /*  Indent folders */
 @-moz-document
     url("file:///xxx/bookmarks.html")
     { body { margin-left: 2em !important; font-size: 12pt }
 h3 + dl { margin-left: 2em !important }  }
where xxx is the full path to my bookmarks.html file.

I automatically export my bookmarks from places.sqlite to
bookmarks.html
every time I terminate SeaMonkey, which is often since I frequntly
switch between profiles (which effectively terminates and then
relaunches SeaMonkey).  The export is effected by having
 user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
 // automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
in my user.js file in my profile.  (The // indicates a comment to
remind
me why I have that entry.  The ; at the end of the user_pref
statement
is mandatory.)



I copied those into the appropriate files.
NOTHING happened :<




Did you replace the xxx with the actual path to your bookmarks.html
file?  You do have a bookmarks.html file?



Yes. But I suspect a system problem of some sort.
I posted in wee hours of morning making no more than a 
post.

The other associated symptom was that edit of user.js had had no effect.
I manually tweaked the preference using about:config . I still got no
HTML file on shutdown.

Having been in customer service  for decades, I
suspected "Murphy". So I just now created an empty file with the
appropriate name. Still "no joy in Mudville" ;/

I've avoided addons/addins/etc since the Netscape 4 days - so that's not
the problem.

I've had no cause to tweak userChrome.css nor user.js for >> 10 years.
Is there a bug I would not have noticed?

I've set aside this afternoon to discover some diagnostic test cases. I
*DOUBT* that any explicit diagnostics for this case exists. I was thus
going to search out articles on how/why to tweak those files.

Suggestions welcome :}

P.S. I've been a "corner case" since ~"Hector was a pup"  ;/




Entries and changes to user.js have no effect until you completely
terminate SeaMonkey and then relaunch it unless, of course, you edit
user.js while SeaMonkey is already terminated.  (It is possible that the
same might be true of userChrome.css.)  Then, the automatic export from
places.sqlite to bookmarks.html occurs the next time (and each time
thereafter) you terminate SeaMonkey.

Furthermore, you are using SeaMonkey under Linux.  I am using SeaMonkey
under windows.  There might be differences.



*ROFL*
I've ancient copy of WinXP Pro on another machine.
I'll investigate permutations tomorrow ;/




Had problems with my WinXP machine.
Just ran your css suggestions. Still didn't get what I was looking for.
Are we describing the same thing.
I've a sample of desired output (1.9kB).
If the server does not accept attachments, where can I post it?
TIA


The HTML fragment you attached actually came through!  Usually,
attachments are stripped away in the Mozilla newsgroups.

Your fragment is exactly what I get and what I want.  So you might
indeed be correct in thinking that I do not understand what you want.



¿ why would you use 500 bookmarks ???

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Re: how do I do a screen shot

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Smiles wrote:

good day

I have to do two short note for a young man with CP but when I select the view 
menu I can not take a screen  shot of the options


any suggestions please

regards
Smiles


what is CP ?

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Re: Slow SeaMonkey

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Ant wrote:

On 9/7/2018 1:09 PM, nolawye...@gmail.com wrote:

I've been having problems with slow SeaMonkey and it freezing/not scrolling 
and think that my  problem may have been AdBlock Plus. Shutting it off may 
have solved the problem - so far.


Try uBlock Origin extension? It is lighter and faster.


¿are you paranoia? why do you use /AdBlock/ ?

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Re: Strange warning message

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Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/07/2018 09:33 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

I renamed something with "webide" in its name.
Things now work.
Why? It was levels down in some firefox subdirectory.

[Debian uses Thunderbird/Firefox by default.
  I much prefer SeaMonkey so I installed it without yet having purged the 
competition]




/Seamonkey/ is default on /Fedora Redhat/ but with version: 2.33.1 !


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

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Lee wrote:

On 9/5/18, David E. Ross  wrote:
   <.. snip ..>


Furthermore, I also use the Secret Agent extension, which keeps changing
my UA string -- among other spoofed HTTP header fields -- to confound
tracking me.


Are you using a VPN?  If no, tracking by ip address is probably good
enough.  And if you have javascript enabled.. there are plenty too
many hits for a search on "javascript fingerprinting"

Regards,
Lee



My Lee pants keeps exploding ;-)

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Re: i just sent ed mullen this newsletter

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GerardJan wrote:

¡ i hope he will be happy with that !

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L6sGd0R6FI

sincerely,


today at one o'clock (CET) I have an appointment with my psych dr. Lopez
i ask your prayers for it

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i just sent ed mullen this newsletter

[GerardJan]

¡ i hope he will be happy with that !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L6sGd0R6FI

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Re: Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin

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Andy K wrote:

On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 9:40:06 PM UTC-5, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Andy K wrote:

On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 6:43:32 PM UTC-5, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Andy K wrote:

On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 12:21:22 PM UTC-5, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Andy K wrote:


I cant get netflix to play movies on my computer.

I get error code F7352.

I think I need this, but can't find it.

Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin



I just added user.js preference

user_pref("general.useragent.override.netflix.com", "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0");

Works just fine...lousy useragent sniffing.





It didn't help.



Well I don't have any "Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin' in my
plugin list




Interesting. I can play netflix movies on Firefox.

/do not hassle with netflix/ go to the movies


Strange since Seamonkey is built on the same platform as Firefox.


It won't play if Seamonkey is in the useragent string.


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Seamonkey is not in string

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Re: How to disable the cache for just one site ?

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Ray_Net wrote:

I had a problem because SM show me the old version of a page on a site.

To avoid this, I put the cache length = 0

But now, some sites are too slow.

How can I disable the cache for just one site ?


Dear Ray,
I do not think that that is possible.


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

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rjkrjk wrote:

plz explain how this is done,  tks


you don't need to know everything





no...@nonospam.org wrote on 9/2/18 6:00 PM:

Replying to a couple of suggestions from different responders:

Clearing my cache did not fix this.

Using the Prefbar add-on, changing my User Agent from SM to Firefox DID fix 
it. Switching 


**



back and forth between the two, it is repeatable.

Thanks for the suggestions!

John

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3041415&p=14808162#p14808162

no...@nonospam.org wrote:
Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced to 
the top of the
search box instead of being centered, and as I typed in a search some of 
the words would
spill over to a second line in the search box. This happened only with SM, 
and it

happened on every computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I 
haven't seen

this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any 
ideas on how to

eliminate it? Thanks!

John


Google has changed a few things in the last few days.
IMO, they did initial testing a few weeks ago.
My user string does not have your problem in SM on this machine,
but the same string in FF on a different machine does what you said.
On both machines Google has eliminated the URL that bypasses their
"search help" so that now every letter I type gets sent to Google
which then suggests search words.  I hate that and their reporting home.






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Re: Prelude to removing duplicated bookmarks

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David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/1/2018 1:38 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

If retirement isn't for education what use is it?


Very good.  Retirement is also the best work of all.



I am retired, my one man company is
/Veuniks IT/
from the society of the /Delfts Studenten Corps/

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Re: F11

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GerardJan wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:
It looks like the hotkey F11 retains the toolbar when you hit it to go into 
full screen, at least that's what's happening on my computer (Win7, SM 
2.49.4). Is that the way it's supposed to work now?


F11 does nothing on my fedora (redhat) desktop in SM 2.29.4


I am sorry I looked in the mail part
F11 goes into full screen another F11 restores the toolbars

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Re: F11

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Roger Fink wrote:
It looks like the hotkey F11 retains the toolbar when you hit it to go into full 
screen, at least that's what's happening on my computer (Win7, SM 2.49.4). Is 
that the way it's supposed to work now?


F11 does nothing on my fedora (redhat) desktop in SM 2.29.4

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Re: Downloading for Vimeo

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Daniel wrote:
I've contributed to a couple of Kickstarter projects which entitle me to 
download the Video's from such sites as Vimeo.com. And Youtube.com as well, and 
other sites.


When I enter the supplied password, I'd expect I can watch the video, but how do 
I actually get the video file downloaded onto my hard drive?? Can I do it 
with-in SeaMonkey, or do I need an add-on??


File->Save As

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Re: can't log-in to PayPal with SM 2.49.4

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¿ why does ^x^m not work in /xemacs/ ?

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

But the OP noted that paypal.it blocks him while paypal.com admits him. Go 
figure (allez comprendre).



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Re: Downloading for Vimeo

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Ant wrote:

https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/ if you know command line.

On 8/27/2018 7:30 AM, Daniel wrote:
I've contributed to a couple of Kickstarter projects which entitle me to 
download the Video's from such sites as Vimeo.com. And Youtube.com as well, 
and other sites.


When I enter the supplied password, I'd expect I can watch the video, but how 
do I actually get the video file downloaded onto my hard drive?? Can I do it 
with-in SeaMonkey, or do I need an add-on??-- 


If you are using *linux* you can do it with-in /Seamonkey/


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Re: Downloading for Vimeo

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Ray_Net wrote:

Wolf wrote on 28-08-18 07:29:

Lee schrieb:


It's been a while since I had one that worked tho, so if I know url
for the movie I just make a quick .html file so that I can "right
click / save link as" to download the file:
   
   right click / save link as to download
   

Lee


The best solution I've seen so far!!!

Greetings
Wolf


Would be perfecr if we write a program asking us the url,
Then the program construct this html file...
Then start SM opening this html file.
Isn't it ?


yes, i think you have right

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Re: Downloading for Vimeo

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David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/27/2018 7:30 AM, Daniel wrote:

I've contributed to a couple of Kickstarter projects which entitle me to
download the Video's from such sites as Vimeo.com. And Youtube.com as
well, and other sites.

When I enter the supplied password, I'd expect I can watch the video,
but how do I actually get the video file downloaded onto my hard drive??
Can I do it with-in SeaMonkey, or do I need an add-on??



If you have the URI of the video, you can use VLC (VideoLAN from
) to download the file.  You do this by
playing the video on VLC and recording what is playing.  You have to be
quick about starting the recording, or you might miss the first few
seconds.



+1

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Re: Downloading for Vimeo

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Daniel wrote:
I've contributed to a couple of Kickstarter projects which entitle me to 
download the Video's from such sites as Vimeo.com. And Youtube.com as well, and 
other sites.


When I enter the supplied password, I'd expect I can watch the video, but how do 
I actually get the video file downloaded onto my hard drive?? Can I do it 
with-in SeaMonkey, or do I need an add-on??


Dear Daniel,
What is your OP ?

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Re: No search results on Twitter for #braunschweig

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Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Hi,

from time to time I see this strangeeffect:

https://twitter.com/RrBd57/status/1033627744498851841

SeaMonkey shows hits for a particular hashtag1 combined with hashtag2, but not 
only for hashtag1. Until now I have not done systematic research (new user 
profile, ...). Any Ideas?




works fine on my /fedora20 desktop/
i did not try it on my /Apple iPAD/

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Re: odd things popping up in emails

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Pat Connors wrote:
A few weeks ago, my email, both out going and incoming, started having weird A's 
with an upside down v over it , popping up.  A recent email only of only 2 lines 
long had 8 of them!  Yesterday, I updated to Seamonkey 2.49.4 and they are just 
as bad.


How can I get rid of them??
Thanks in advance for your help.


install 2.49.3 again that is stable

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Re: Using jq to clean/organize bookmarks? (plug in)

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Daniel wrote:

Daniel wrote on 22/08/2018 4:28 PM:

Lee wrote on 22/08/2018 7:59 AM:

On 8/21/18, Daniel  wrote:

If you open the file with notepad.. yeah, it does look pretty horrible.
If you use something like notepad++ that automatically deals with
dos/unix line endings it looks much better :)

Lee


Oh!! O.K., I'll have to try to locate a downloadable for notepad++. I
wonder if wordpad might not be another possibility!!


Downloaded Notepad++ and installed it and it seemed to function well.

Now to see if I can have two instances of it running at the same time,
both reading the same file, so I can compare two separate sections of
that one file!! (Alternatively, I could save two copies of the Bookmarks
file with different names!!)


You could try the totally non-obvious
   View / Move/Clone Current Document / Clone to other view
in notepad++ or check out
   http://winmerge.org/
to see if that might be more suitable for what you're trying to do

Regards,
Lee


Something else to try, thank you, Lee. ;-)

At first glance, Lee, that appears to allow me to get two instances of the one 
file up ... but, it seems, I cannot then edit either instance in Notepad++ ... 
but I can do that in SM Bookmarks itself..


Thank you. ;-)



Dan!
You should upgrade to 2.49.3 !

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Re: Where are Downloaded files saved??

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Daniel wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 19/08/2018 1:21 AM:

On 8/18/18 5:43 AM, Daniel wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 18/08/2018 5:30 AM:

Ray_Net wrote:

This is my idea also  replacing double-backslash by single-backslash 
could destroy the pref.js file ...


This is what I have in my pref.js file:
user_pref("browser.download.dir", 
"C:\\ADDON\\ADDED\\Mozilla-Suite\\SeaMonkey\\2.0.2");

user_pref("browser.download.lastDir", "C:\\ALLDATA\\RandoEvasion\\INSCRITS");


If you don't trust it, don't do a global search and replace. Try it with the 
one pref you're interested in and see what happens. If that fixes the 
problem, you can go back and apply the fix throughout the file.


To Mark's question: the backslashes are single in about:config.

 From what we've seen so far, the download failed for some reason, that's 
why the OP can't find the file (it's not there). My chief suspect at this 
point is the double backslashes -- if SM tries to save the file to a 
nonexistent directory or an invalid path, it will fail. But then it should 
throw an error to alert the user, even if the setting is "don't ask."


I have no expertise in Linux; my remarks refer only to the Windows 
installation.


As suggested by others, I looked in about:config and, sure enough, while 
looking in prefs.js,I got double slashes, when I looked in about:config, I 
got ...


browser.download.lastDir;    user set    String C:\Users\Daniel\Downloads

Single slashes ... just doesn't work for downloading SeaMonkey from the 
SeaMonkey-Project download page. Other downloads, things work fine!!



Tried a new profile? Not shared. ;-)


No, Walt. Not yet!! ;-(



;-( does not work :-( does


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Re: Where are Downloaded files saved??

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Daniel wrote:

Lee wrote on 19/08/2018 1:07 AM:

On 8/18/18, Daniel  wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 18/08/2018 5:30 AM:

Ray_Net wrote:

This is my idea also  replacing double-backslash by single-backslash 
could destroy the pref.js file ...


This is what I have in my pref.js file: user_pref("browser.download.dir", 
"C:\\ADDON\\ADDED\\Mozilla-Suite\\SeaMonkey\\2.0.2"); 
user_pref("browser.download.lastDir", "C:\\ALLDATA\\RandoEvasion\\INSCRITS");


If you don't trust it, don't do a global search and replace. Try
it with the one pref you're interested in and see what happens.
If that fixes the problem, you can go back and apply the fix
throughout the file.

To Mark's question: the backslashes are single in about:config.

From what we've seen so far, the download failed for some
reason, that's why the OP can't find the file (it's not there).
My chief suspect at this point is the double backslashes -- if SM
tries to save the file to a nonexistent directory or an invalid
path, it will fail. But then it should throw an error to alert
the user, even if the setting is "don't ask."

I have no expertise in Linux; my remarks refer only to the
Windows installation.


As suggested by others, I looked in about:config and, sure enough,
while looking in prefs.js,I got double slashes, when I looked in
about:config, I got ...

browser.download.lastDir;    user set    String
C:\Users\Daniel\Downloads

Single slashes ... just doesn't work for downloading SeaMonkey from
the SeaMonkey-Project download page. Other downloads, things work
fine!!


Can you tell if your anti-virus is blocking it? I uploaded "SeaMonkey
Setup 2.49.4.exe" to virustotal & got two hits: 
https://virustotalcloud.appspot.com/#/file/9a7822a019eb89c71a912c5ca5a08ce9dea9fc536a12c9ae861f528e5a6409c2/detection 



 Regards, Lee


looks like my blue jeans, they are LEE !!



Good thought, Lee, but nothing showing in my updated AVG Anti-virus Free 
Quarantine listing since October last year. :-(





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Re: Using jq to clean/organize bookmarks? (plug in)

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Paul Bergsagel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

My bookmarks have grown like Topsy
I have many duplicates and the tree structure is a mess.
I have two primary goals:
  1. find and purge duplicates.
  2. move folders around to create a more reasonable structure.

After trying several approaches and looking for useful tools I found
jq [https://stedolan.github.io/jq/]. One related page I found is titled
"jq is sed for JSON".

An outline of a possible procedure might be:
 1. Export SeaMonkey bookmarks in JSON format.
 2. use jq to pretty print the JSON. It does so nicely.
 3. Find duplicate targets and delete all but one.
 4. Each leaf of the bookmark tree is an object.
    Move these objects around to create a more friendly tree.
 5. Import the clean organized bookmarks.

Has anyone done this?


+1


Is there a friendly in depth jq tutorial? The ones I've found tend to be
on the "Hello world" level. There is just enough to tantalize.

Links of interest include:
https://stedolan.github.io/jq/manual/v1.5/
http://stedolan.github.io/jq/tutorial/
https://robots.thoughtbot.com/jq-is-sed-for-json





I have a limited understanding of programming and do not consider myself a 
programmer at all. Here is my question: "Would it be possible to create a plug 
in that would sort and locate duplicate bookmarks from within SeaMonkey rather 
than having to export the bookmarks and use an outside program?  Isn't there a 
way to automate advanced bookmark management using a plug in?"





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Re: Using jq to clean/organize bookmarks?

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Lee wrote:

On 8/18/18, Richard Owlett  wrote:

On 08/18/2018 04:50 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 18/08/2018 1:44 PM:

[snip]
Have made progress :]
BUT creating useful output in JSON format acceptable to SeaMonkey
unlikely :[


   Bookmarks / Manage Bookmarks
   Tools / Restore / Choose / Choose File
seems likely to work.  Or have you already tried that?


HOWEVER I expect I'll be able to create a HTML file which can serve
nicely as bookmarks. That was one of my initial alternative goals.


SeaMonkey used to, natively, I think, do this!!

*1 :/


Yes, Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks then, in the Bookmark Manager,
Tools->Export HTML


That exists. But almost useless for my needs.
It loses the hierarchical information. My bookmarks include both links
and folders containing links. Nested several levels deep.


For whatever it's worth - in the 'Export HTML' file the hierarchy is
there, maybe not as nice as having
   "type":"text/x-moz-place-container"
   "type":"text/x-moz-place"
but it sure looks like one could keep track of the hierarchy:
   folder 1
   
 . . . .
   sub folder 1
   
. . sub folder 1 contents. .
   
. . . .
   sub folder 2
   
. .  sub folder 2 contents . .
   
. . remainder of folder 1 contents . .
   


My path to that will depend on Linux tools. I suspect similar tools
exist in Windows. I will be creating a description of my combination
of scripts and manual edits.


How, or are, you handling de-duplicating bookmarks?  That's where I get stuck.
a bookmark here, the same bookmark there.. how does the program decide
which folder keeps the bookmark & which folder has the bookmark
removed?

Thanks,
Lee




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Re: Does "Mark - Thread as Read" really work??

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EE wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Does anyone, here, ever "Mark Thread as Read" in their newsgroups??

Late last year, I mucked up badly by deleting my main SeaMonkey profile (Yes, 
what I goose I am!!), so then I had to re-create my profile, including my 
account for this server, and four groups on news.mozilla.org, and my UseNet 
server account, with about twenty groups on news.eternal-september.org.


Then I went through and downloaded all the headers for those groups. On this 
server, I was up-to-date with my reading, so just marked the groups as read 
... job done!


Different story for UseNet! What I had usually been doing was read all the 
"new" threads and threads with some unread messages in them and then read some 
of the "old" threads so, after downloading all the threads, then, for any 
thread I had posted to, I marked the entire thread as read.


And then I kept reading .

Then, in one of the UseNet groups, I wasn't interested in one of the newer 
threads, so I killed that thread when there were about 25 posts. To be honest, 
I'm not sure, now, if I "Mark Thread as Read" or if I "Message - Ignore Thread 
(K)", but, now, when I look through that newsgroup, that thread shows as 12 
Unread out of 42, or some such, and, in the Threads pane, if I expand that 
thread, I see about 30 "Read" messages and ZERO unread messages.


And, no matter how many times I click on "Mark Thread as Read", the figures 
still stand ... I'm told I still have 12 Unread out of 42.


It didn't worry me much  until tonight, when I was reading (I think, 
another) group, one of the threads that I had "Mark Tread as Read"/"Message 
Ignore Thread" was showing as 16 unread out of 48, or some such, and all these 
unread messages were in "twigs" that I hadn't contributed to but the "twig" 
that I had contributed to *WAS* marked as read.


This leads me to ask  When I click on "Mark Thread as Read" does SeaMonkey 
really mark the entire thread as read (as it should) or does it just mark the 
TWIG as read ... which in many threads would be enough??

it marks the *twig* as read, as far as I know


Or has "Mark Thread as Read" gotten mixed up with "Message   Ignore Sub-thread 
(Shift K)" or something??


P.S. In the second case, I'm down to less than 40,000 unread messages out of a 
total on about 220,000 messages so I sure hope no-one suggests I delete the 
index file entry and start from scratch again!! ;-(

;-)


TIA


Mark as Read works for me, but I found that I had to shut down & start up or 
restart the application to see the effects.





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There is a rumor that Churchill  was manic depressed

sean nathan bean wrote:
> MCBastos sent me the following::
>> Interviewed by CNN on 30/06/2011 17:29, sean nathan bean told the world:
>>> are you going to be updating this page anytime soon?
>>>
>>> http://tagzilla.mozdev.org/
>>>
>>> or linking it back into the thunderbird and seamonkey addons?
>>
>> Tagzilla's page is NOT under the responsibility of Philip Chee.
>>
>
> chill out... it was just a friendly nudge...
>
> sean
>
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Re: Lightning!

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Hartmut Figge wrote:

IRRITATING SPAMMER:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Hartmut Figge:



├── [2.0M Jun 30  2015]  lightning-4.4a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.xpi


Hm. My SM has chosen us-ascii instead of utf-8 for unknown reasons.
Well, it too is a SM-Trunk. *g* So forget the garbage at the beginning
of the lines. No important information.


It's Simple Text in a Newsgroup.
We'd presumably all have to set our clients to utf-8 in order to
interpret ├──, the two Euro question is: is it worth it?  Nope.


Nothing needs to be done if Content-Type and Content-Transfer-Encoding
are correct. My SM-Trunk should have detected the presence of utf-8
chars in the message and used the proper declarations.

As to override the false us-ascii with the correct utf-8, well, isn't is
nice to know the garbage isnt't important? ;)

Hartmut



I just saved approx.20MB by compacting

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Re: Yet another question, about right click menu

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Jeffrey Needle wrote:

On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 6:45:45 AM UTC+8, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jeffrey Needle wrote:


What I'm hoping to do is to be able to insert frequently-used text
snippets into an email, and also in a Composer document. I'd love to
be able to get word count for Composer, but I don't think I'm going
to get that. The ability to insert the date into an email would also
be helpful. Thanks.

Incidentally, I can do a lot of this in Tbird.  I'm assuming the
extensions that work in Tbird won't work in SM.


  From the sound of it, you should be composing in a word processor,
which is designed with these features plus spell-checking. When you're
done, copy/paste to a text editor like Notepad to remove all the crud,
and then copy/paste from there to your HTML editor for formatting.

You can still do minor revisions in your HTML editor, but realistically
that's not what they're designed for. To work with large volumes of
text, use a tool designed for that.

--
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher


I suppose this is right.  I do have LibreOffice installed on the
same Linux box.  I was hoping to do everything under one roof.

Thanks.



Yes, Paul, I have the same

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Re: SeaMonkey version 2.49.3 Browser won't load Google and youtube sites

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https://www.parool.nl/4598598 (inmap)

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

As usual bad antivirus:

https://www.bullguard.com/forum/15/google-sites-security-certific_94933.html

dirk wrote:

Mason83 schreef:

On 24/05/2018 12:29, dirk wrote:


Yeah, something strange happened, I mentioned google.com worked, NOT
ANYMORE


I would assume either a virus, or an aggressive anti-virus.



I use Bulguard, but in Chrome and IE 11 it workd flawless, I presume SM issue?



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Re: Lightning!

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Hartmut Figge wrote:

Hartmut Figge:


├── [2.0M Jun 30  2015]  lightning-4.4a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.xpi


Hm. My SM has chosen us-ascii instead of utf-8 for unknown reasons.
Well, it too is a SM-Trunk. *g* So forget the garbage at the beginning
of the lines. No important information.

Hartmut



\|@#~½¬{[]}\
ª!"·$%&/()=?¿

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Re: Lightning!

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Jeffrey Needle wrote:

I'm using Puppy Linux on an old box.  The version of SM is
2.39.  I've looked at the extension page for Lightning, and
no version seems to work on 2.39.  Can something be done to
get Lightning to work in this version of SM?  Thanks.



As far as I know you don't need Lightning with ver.2.49.3, everything is 
builtin, be sure that you have flash on


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Re: Updater?

[GerardJan]

Larry S. wrote:
I was under the impression that the Seamonkey updater wasn't working, but now my 
wife (but not me) is getting a notice that there is an updater.exe, sourced from 
the Seamonkey location on her hard drive, and asking to be executed.


So far she is turning it down, but it keeps coming. So, is there now an official 
Seamonkey updater, or is this a scam or virus?


Larry S.


It was advised for ver.2.49.3 to load it fully, so not with an update

sincerely,

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Re: Adobe Flash

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Smiles wrote:

good day

I have installed Adobe Flash but I get from time to time an email that says 
Adobe plug in not running how do I fix this problem


thanks

what OS system are you running ? what version seamonkey ?

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Re: SM 2.493 user name/passwords not remembered any longer

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rjkrjk wrote:

win7/64  6gb system

updated SM last night to 2.493

situation
signing in to ebay

typically I right click and the several accts that I have show up
NONE show up now

there seems to be a disconnect between the user names/passwords previously used 
with

SM 2.49

will need to re-enter the user name/passwords so that the password mgr can 
remember/update them again


anyone having this type of situation

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use kaspersky

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Re: Seamonkey Composer to Be Discontinued?

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Richard Owlett wrote:

On 05/16/2018 12:28 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

Richard Owlett:


I've downloaded
https://www.wg9s.com/comm-253/seamonkey-2.53.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
and extracted SeaMonkey.
It will not launch.


I'm using the latest usable Version of SM 2.56a1 Linux x86_64. Self
compiled, some private patches. The composer starts, but I have never
used it.

Others have used this build without problems. Maybe you are interested
in it for testing composer. Or other things. If so, drop me a PM.

But, private patches you may not like. *g*

Hartmut



I'm game. I date back to the Netscape days - part of why I want to see Composer 
stick around.
I've never tested software my 64 bit Debian is totally isolated. I did hardware 
QA/QC back when 8085 was fairly new ;/





you should use \;-) ;-)

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Re: Off Topic Question about Newsgroup Accounts

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DoctorBill wrote:

In total ignorance - I ask here as I don't know where to ask !

Somehow I got into this Mozilla newsgroup - can't remember how - long time ago.

I want to ask questions about Windows 7 and when googling, I found that there is 
a Newsgroup called "alt.windows7.general" - found on "www.w7forums.com/".


Is that Newsgroup anything like THIS news group (Mozilla.org) which I access 
thru my SM Mail ?


If so, I have NO CLUE how to set it up (account?).

Most highly confused DoctorBill




you need to have a provider like www.xs4all.nl (i don't)

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Re: Another question, if I may, about inserting graphics in emails

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Ray_Net wrote:

Jeffrey Needle wrote on 15-05-18 03:23:

Hello again.

I can easily insert a graphic into an email, but I must check a box that says 
no caption needed.  In Thunderbird, this choice is remembered, but not in SM.  
Any setting so I don't have to set this option each time?  And any way to keep 
the download box from popping up each time I insert a graphic into an email?


Thanks.

I do a simple copy/paste and I never encouter a check box ...

+1

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Re: Site Blocked?

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Tom Pamin wrote:

Why does Seamonkey block this site, and IE doesn't?
https://www.hayneedle.com/


http://www.noasmusic.com/beautiful-that-way-la-vita-e-bella/
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Re: Cannot access google search engine

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WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/13/18 7:13 PM, rogihil...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, 13 May 2018 12:17:38 UTC+1, chicagofan  wrote:

IRRITATING SPAMMER wrote:



It appears that your problem is a serious danger to your data and you
need to fix it smartish.
- How did it get past your virus scanner in the first place?
- What router are you using?  Some of them are insecure.
As a temporary measure (you do need to fix this), try using something
like https://duckduckgo.com/ as a search engine. You can either call
it explicitly or change your settings to call it implicitly.



I've been using duckduckgo for several years with no problems. Can't
tell any difference from Google.  Mozilla reference caused the switch.
bj


No difference to this hijacker/virus when starting in safe mode. As soon as 
google.com is entered it blocks with Capitcha questions which are never 
satisfied. I use Kaspersky antivirus and Malwarebytes and Adwcleaner. Nothing 
they found and cleaned has helped so far.




Why do you want to use Google?

DuckDuckGo is the default search engine for SeaMonkey and works quite well 
without tracking you.




I use google.nl and it tracks me via www.xs4all.nl the best provider in europe 
no regret


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