Re: Filters for newsgroups [Usenet]

2009-08-13 Thread chicagofan

NoOp wrote:

On 08/12/2009 06:03 PM, NoOp wrote:
   

On 08/12/2009 05:47 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
 

chicagofan wrote:
   

NoOp wrote:
 

Download  install. It shouldn't affect your 1.1.x installation.
   

Thanks for this re-post, and I'm trusting you, that it's going to
install separately. ;)
 

Just take care to install it into a different folder than 1.1.x if you
want to use both.

Robert Kaiser
   


Thanks Robert!



Ah. Good catch - Thanks!

@chicagofan: I recommend installing to C:\Program Files\Seamonkey2
But if you'd like to wait for a few moments I'll fire up a WinXP machine
and provide you with the exact steps.

 

Sorry it took awhile... I forgot Windows needs to first install a
bazillion updates, then reboot, then do some more., etc.

Anyway:
   

snipped great instructions

I can't believe you went to this much trouble for me!!!  Thanks so 
much!  I've saved this message for sure, so you won't have to do 
repeats.  :)


I haven't been able to determine if the newsgroup filter is going to 
work yet, but I've developed a mysterious problem with sending mail with 
2.0, which I started a new thread about.


Thanks so much for all of your responses.
bj

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Re: Filters for newsgroups [Usenet]

2009-08-12 Thread NoOp
On 08/11/2009 04:30 PM, chicagofan wrote:
 Is there any chance SM will ever have a message filter in the future,
 that will block crossposting, as we could with the old Netscape programs?
 Or is there an add on that will do that, like Fix News did for Netscape?
 
 Some newsgroups are just impossible to keep up with, because of spammers
 cross posting, and constantly changing their addresses.  Of course it's
 always worse in the summer, when all the kiddies have too much time on
 their hands.  :)
 bj

2.0 provides filtering by headers, so it's relatively easy to filter any
crossposted post. Just filter on:

Newsgroup
  contains
 ,


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Re: Filters for newsgroups [Usenet]

2009-08-12 Thread NoOp
On 08/12/2009 09:32 AM, Martin Feitag wrote:
 NoOp schrieb:
 On 08/11/2009 04:30 PM, chicagofan wrote:
 Is there any chance SM will ever have a message filter in the future,
 that will block crossposting, as we could with the old Netscape programs?
 Or is there an add on that will do that, like Fix News did for Netscape?

 Some newsgroups are just impossible to keep up with, because of spammers
 cross posting, and constantly changing their addresses.  Of course it's
 always worse in the summer, when all the kiddies have too much time on
 their hands.  :)
 bj
 
 2.0 provides filtering by headers, so it's relatively easy to filter any
 crossposted post. Just filter on:
 
 Newsgroup
   contains
  ,
 
 Have you tested that successfully?
 I tried to add a tag for a test and nothing happened at all :-S
 regards
 
 Martin
 

WFM:

Applied filter Crossposts to message from Pensandpad
pensandpad@snipped - I just saw an ad for a talking tire pressure
gauge ... at 08/12/2009 11:36:04 AM marked as read

Applied filter Crossposts to message from Pensandpad
pensandpad@snipped - I just saw an ad for a talking tire pressure
gauge ... at 08/12/2009 11:36:04 AM flagged

Applied filter Complaints-To: groups-ab...@google.com to message from
Pensandpad pensandpad@snipped - I just saw an ad for a talking tire
pressure gauge ... at 08/12/2009 11:36:04 AM deleted

The last filter deleted the entire post, so I'll need to turn that
filter off so I can test again on the next round of cross posts.

Basically, for the test I have it set to Mark As Read  Mark As
Flagged so that I can see when the filter is taking place.
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Re: Filters for newsgroups [Usenet]

2009-08-12 Thread chicagofan

NoOp wrote:

On 08/11/2009 04:30 PM, chicagofan wrote:

Is there any chance SM will ever have a message filter in the
future, that will block crossposting, as we could with the old
Netscape programs? Or is there an add on that will do that, like
Fix News did for Netscape?

Some newsgroups are just impossible to keep up with, because of
spammers cross posting, and constantly changing their addresses.
Of course it's always worse in the summer, when all the kiddies
have too much time on their hands.  :) bj


2.0 provides filtering by headers, so it's relatively easy to filter
any crossposted post. Just filter on:

Newsgroup contains ,



2.o has a new Header option for Newsgroups?   [My version 1.1.14, only 
has the

option of filtering on Subject, From, and Date.]

If it blocks cross posting with a comma filter under a header option , 
I'll update my suite today!  :)

bj

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Re: Filters for newsgroups [Usenet]

2009-08-12 Thread chicagofan

Martin Feitag wrote:

NoOp schrieb:

On 08/11/2009 04:30 PM, chicagofan wrote:

Is there any chance SM will ever have a message filter in the future,
that will block crossposting, as we could with the old Netscape programs?
Or is there an add on that will do that, like Fix News did for Netscape?
bj

2.0 provides filtering by headers, so it's relatively easy to filter any
crossposted post. Just filter on:

Newsgroup
  contains
 ,


Have you tested that successfully?
I tried to add a tag for a test and nothing happened at all :-S
regards

Martin



O which version are you using?
bj
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Re: Filters for newsgroups [Usenet]

2009-08-12 Thread chicagofan

NoOp wrote:

On 08/12/2009 09:32 AM, Martin Feitag wrote:

NoOp schrieb:

On 08/11/2009 04:30 PM, chicagofan wrote:

Is there any chance SM will ever have a message filter in the future,
that will block crossposting, as we could with the old Netscape programs?
Or is there an add on that will do that, like Fix News did for Netscape?

Some newsgroups are just impossible to keep up with, because of spammers
cross posting, and constantly changing their addresses.  Of course it's
always worse in the summer, when all the kiddies have too much time on
their hands.  :)
bj

2.0 provides filtering by headers, so it's relatively easy to filter any
crossposted post. Just filter on:

Newsgroup
  contains
 ,

Have you tested that successfully?
I tried to add a tag for a test and nothing happened at all :-S
regards

Martin



WFM:

Applied filter Crossposts to message from Pensandpad
pensandpad@snipped - I just saw an ad for a talking tire pressure
gauge ... at 08/12/2009 11:36:04 AM marked as read

Applied filter Crossposts to message from Pensandpad
pensandpad@snipped - I just saw an ad for a talking tire pressure
gauge ... at 08/12/2009 11:36:04 AM flagged

Applied filter Complaints-To: groups-ab...@google.com to message from
Pensandpad pensandpad@snipped - I just saw an ad for a talking tire
pressure gauge ... at 08/12/2009 11:36:04 AM deleted

The last filter deleted the entire post, so I'll need to turn that
filter off so I can test again on the next round of cross posts.

Basically, for the test I have it set to Mark As Read  Mark As
Flagged so that I can see when the filter is taking place.



What SM version are you using?  I want that ability!!!  :)
bj
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Re: Filters for newsgroups [Usenet]

2009-08-12 Thread NoOp
On 08/12/2009 11:50 AM, NoOp wrote:
 On 08/12/2009 09:32 AM, Martin Feitag wrote:
 NoOp schrieb:
 On 08/11/2009 04:30 PM, chicagofan wrote:
 Is there any chance SM will ever have a message filter in the future,
 that will block crossposting, as we could with the old Netscape programs?
 Or is there an add on that will do that, like Fix News did for Netscape?

 Some newsgroups are just impossible to keep up with, because of spammers
 cross posting, and constantly changing their addresses.  Of course it's
 always worse in the summer, when all the kiddies have too much time on
 their hands.  :)
 bj
 
 2.0 provides filtering by headers, so it's relatively easy to filter any
 crossposted post. Just filter on:
 
 Newsgroup
   contains
  ,
 
 Have you tested that successfully?
 I tried to add a tag for a test and nothing happened at all :-S
 regards
 
 Martin
 
 
 WFM:
 
 Applied filter Crossposts to message from Pensandpad
 pensandpad@snipped - I just saw an ad for a talking tire pressure
 gauge ... at 08/12/2009 11:36:04 AM marked as read
 
 Applied filter Crossposts to message from Pensandpad
 pensandpad@snipped - I just saw an ad for a talking tire pressure
 gauge ... at 08/12/2009 11:36:04 AM flagged
 
 Applied filter Complaints-To: groups-ab...@google.com to message from
 Pensandpad pensandpad@snipped - I just saw an ad for a talking tire
 pressure gauge ... at 08/12/2009 11:36:04 AM deleted
 
 The last filter deleted the entire post, so I'll need to turn that
 filter off so I can test again on the next round of cross posts.
 
 Basically, for the test I have it set to Mark As Read  Mark As
 Flagged so that I can see when the filter is taking place.

OK, here's a better set:
Applied filter Crosspost to message from Chris Vine chris@snipped
- Firefox Rendering Problems at 08/08/2009 01:18:57 PM marked as read

Applied filter Crosspost to message from Chris Vine chris@snipped
- Firefox Rendering Problems at 08/08/2009 01:18:57 PM flagged

Applied filter Crosspost to message from Chris Vine chris@snipped
- Firefox Rendering Problems at 08/08/2009 01:18:57 PM tagged

Tagged, Flagged, Read.

Cross post was read in alt.comp.linux  cross posted to:
alt.os.linux.slackware, alt.os.linux, comp.os.linux.x, alt.comp.linux

Again: WFM.

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Re: Filters for newsgroups [Usenet]

2009-08-12 Thread NoOp
On 08/12/2009 11:57 AM, chicagofan wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
...
 WFM:
 
 Applied filter Crossposts to message from Pensandpad
 pensandpad@snipped - I just saw an ad for a talking tire pressure
 gauge ... at 08/12/2009 11:36:04 AM marked as read
 
 Applied filter Crossposts to message from Pensandpad
 pensandpad@snipped - I just saw an ad for a talking tire pressure
 gauge ... at 08/12/2009 11:36:04 AM flagged
 
 Applied filter Complaints-To: groups-ab...@google.com to message from
 Pensandpad pensandpad@snipped - I just saw an ad for a talking tire
 pressure gauge ... at 08/12/2009 11:36:04 AM deleted
 
 The last filter deleted the entire post, so I'll need to turn that
 filter off so I can test again on the next round of cross posts.
 
 Basically, for the test I have it set to Mark As Read  Mark As
 Flagged so that I can see when the filter is taking place.
 
 
 What SM version are you using?  I want that ability!!!  :)
 bj

Ummm...

View|Message Source - or Ctl-U

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1pre)
Gecko/20090717 SeaMonkey/2.0b1

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Re: Filters for newsgroups [Usenet]

2009-08-12 Thread chicagofan

NoOp wrote:

On 08/12/2009 11:57 AM, chicagofan wrote:

NoOp wrote:

...

WFM:

Applied filter Crossposts to message from Pensandpad
pensandpad@snipped - I just saw an ad for a talking tire pressure
gauge ... at 08/12/2009 11:36:04 AM marked as read

Applied filter Crossposts to message from Pensandpad
pensandpad@snipped - I just saw an ad for a talking tire pressure
gauge ... at 08/12/2009 11:36:04 AM flagged

Applied filter Complaints-To: groups-ab...@google.com to message from
Pensandpad pensandpad@snipped - I just saw an ad for a talking tire
pressure gauge ... at 08/12/2009 11:36:04 AM deleted

The last filter deleted the entire post, so I'll need to turn that
filter off so I can test again on the next round of cross posts.


What SM version are you using?  I want that ability!!!  :)
bj


Ummm...

View|Message Source - or Ctl-U

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1pre)
Gecko/20090717 SeaMonkey/2.0b1




Thanks!!!  :)
bj
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Re: Filters for newsgroups [Usenet]

2009-08-12 Thread chicagofan

NoOp wrote:

On 08/12/2009 11:57 AM, chicagofan wrote:


What SM version are you using?  I want that ability!!!  :) bj



User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1pre) 
Gecko/20090717 SeaMonkey/2.0b1




I thought I had saved some instructions from here that explained how to
download 2.0 and keep it *separate* from my present SM version, but I
can't find it.

Does anyone remember a recent thread covering that subject?  Or have
the time to briefly tell me how to do it?
bj
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Re: Filters for newsgroups [Usenet]

2009-08-12 Thread NoOp
On 08/12/2009 01:05 PM, chicagofan wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 On 08/12/2009 11:57 AM, chicagofan wrote:
 
 What SM version are you using?  I want that ability!!!  :) bj
 
 
 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1pre) 
 Gecko/20090717 SeaMonkey/2.0b1
 
 
 I thought I had saved some instructions from here that explained how to
 download 2.0 and keep it *separate* from my present SM version, but I
 can't find it.
 
 Does anyone remember a recent thread covering that subject?  Or have
 the time to briefly tell me how to do it?
 bj

From Kairo's July 21 annoucement:

 SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 1 is available for free download on the SeaMonkey 
 website. Once you have downloaded and installed this release, we'd like 
 to encourage you to get involved in discussing and reporting problems as 
 well as further improving the product.
 
 Thanks for testing and helping us to make SeaMonkey even better!
 
 Full news article:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2009-07-21
 
 Release notes:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0b1
 
 Downloads for all available platforms and languages:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0b1
 
 System Requirements:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/system-requirements
 
 Newsgroups: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community#groups
 File a bug: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided
 Get Involved: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/get-involved
 
 Robert Kaiser
 SeaMonkey project coordinator

Download  install. It shouldn't affect your 1.1.x installation.
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Re: Filters for newsgroups [Usenet]

2009-08-12 Thread chicagofan

NoOp wrote:

On 08/12/2009 01:05 PM, chicagofan wrote:

Does anyone remember a recent thread covering that subject?  Or have
the time to briefly tell me how to do it?
bj


From Kairo's July 21 annoucement:

SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 1 is available for free download on the SeaMonkey 
website. Once you have downloaded and installed this release, we'd like 
to encourage you to get involved in discussing and reporting problems as 
well as further improving the product.


Thanks for testing and helping us to make SeaMonkey even better!

Full news article:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2009-07-21

Release notes:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0b1

Downloads for all available platforms and languages:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0b1

System Requirements:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/system-requirements

Newsgroups: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community#groups
File a bug: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided
Get Involved: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/get-involved

Robert Kaiser
SeaMonkey project coordinator


Download  install. It shouldn't affect your 1.1.x installation.



Thanks for this re-post, and I'm trusting you, that it's going to 
install separately.  ;)

bj
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Re: Filters for newsgroups [Usenet]

2009-08-12 Thread Robert Kaiser

chicagofan wrote:

NoOp wrote:

Download  install. It shouldn't affect your 1.1.x installation.


Thanks for this re-post, and I'm trusting you, that it's going to
install separately. ;)


Just take care to install it into a different folder than 1.1.x if you 
want to use both.


Robert Kaiser
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Re: Filters for newsgroups [Usenet]

2009-08-12 Thread NoOp
On 08/12/2009 05:47 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
 chicagofan wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 Download  install. It shouldn't affect your 1.1.x installation.

 Thanks for this re-post, and I'm trusting you, that it's going to
 install separately. ;)
 
 Just take care to install it into a different folder than 1.1.x if you 
 want to use both.
 
 Robert Kaiser

Ah. Good catch - Thanks!

@chicagofan: I recommend installing to C:\Program Files\Seamonkey2
But if you'd like to wait for a few moments I'll fire up a WinXP machine
and provide you with the exact steps.


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Re: Filters for newsgroups [Usenet]

2009-08-12 Thread NoOp
On 08/12/2009 06:03 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 08/12/2009 05:47 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
 chicagofan wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 Download  install. It shouldn't affect your 1.1.x installation.

 Thanks for this re-post, and I'm trusting you, that it's going to
 install separately. ;)
 
 Just take care to install it into a different folder than 1.1.x if you 
 want to use both.
 
 Robert Kaiser
 
 Ah. Good catch - Thanks!
 
 @chicagofan: I recommend installing to C:\Program Files\Seamonkey2
 But if you'd like to wait for a few moments I'll fire up a WinXP machine
 and provide you with the exact steps.
 
 

Sorry it took awhile... I forgot Windows needs to first install a
bazillion updates, then reboot, then do some more., etc.

Anyway:

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/install-and-uninstall
I'll modify the Windows instructions slightly - my
modifications/comments are prefaced by NoOp::


Windows Installation Instructions

For Windows 2000/XP systems, you need Administrator privileges to
install SeaMonkey. If you see an Error 5 message during installation,
make sure you're running the installation with Administrator privileges.

To install SeaMonkey by downloading the SeaMonkey installer

NoOp: link is: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0b1

, follow these steps:

   1. Click the link to seamonkey-2.xx.en-US.win32.installer.exe (or
similar file name) on the site you're downloading SeaMonkey from to
download the installer file to your machine.

NoOp: The file is 'SeaMonkey Setup 2.0 Beta 1.exe' - why the mozilla
folks decided to use this naming convention with spaces in it is beyond
me... Further, the reference to the above
seamonkey-2.xx.en-US.win32.installer.exe is wrong.
  Before proceeding: right click your SeaMonkey icon on your desktop and
rename to 'SeaMonkey 1.x' so that you later can bring up SM 1.1.x easily.

   2. Navigate to where you downloaded the file and double-click the
installer file icon on your machine to begin the Setup program.

NoOp:

- SeaMonkey Setup Wizard
  - Next
- Click the 'I accept the terms in this License Agreement' (you might
want to read them first... by accepting you agree to allow Mozilla to
use your children for development purposes.
  - Next
- Setup Type
  - Click Custom
  - Next
- Choose Optional Components (leave everything checked)
  - Next
- Choose Install Location
  - Change C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\ to
 C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey2\
Note: the default of C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\ should be fine if your
old installation is located in C:\Program Files\mozilla but changing to
C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey2\ will ensure that your install folder is
different  won't interfere with 1.1.x.

- Set Up Shortcuts
  - Next
- Choose Start Menu Folder
  - Change from 'SeaMonkey' to 'SeaMonkey2' [1]
  - Next
- Summary
  - Install
- Completing...
  - Finish (leave 'Launch SeaMonkey now' checked'

SeaMonkey will start.

- Click Help|About SeaMonkey - and verify that the window shows version
2.0b1.
- Click the 'mail' icon in the lower left panel.
Verify that your mail/news profiles from 1.1.x have been imported and
are intact.


- Exit SeaMonkey.
- Right click the new SeaMonkey icon on the desktop and rename it
'SeaMonkey2': Properties|General|SeaMonkey2. This helps to identify
between SeaMonkey 1.x and SeaMonkey2. Do the same for the SeaMonkey icon
in the quick start panel.

Now you can click on either the 1.1x icon or the 2x icon and launch
either 1.1.x or 2.0x.

Normally to launch both at the same time you will need to do the following:

Right click the SeaMonkey icons, select Properties and in 'Target' add
at the end of the line where it shows 'seamonkey.exe': -noremote
and then click 'Apply' and then 'OK. So it will read:
C:\\seamonkey.exe -noremote

  Be sure to do it for both the SM2 and SM1 icons.

That last doesn't seem to be working for me on the WinXP test system;
works on linux to I'll need to test more tomorrow. However, the above
will allow you to run either or for now.

Gary





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Filters for newsgroups [Usenet]

2009-08-11 Thread chicagofan

Is there any chance SM will ever have a message filter in the future,
that will block crossposting, as we could with the old Netscape programs?
Or is there an add on that will do that, like Fix News did for Netscape?

Some newsgroups are just impossible to keep up with, because of spammers
cross posting, and constantly changing their addresses.  Of course it's
always worse in the summer, when all the kiddies have too much time on
their hands.  :)
bj
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