Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability
Bret Busby wrote: On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, Daniel wrote: (P.S. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In *Five* Parts) That was dealt with by me, in a message posted to the list, in response to a similar claim, I believe by you, in mid-July. My citation was correct. See the message below. Please desist in incorrect corrections, that are not on-topic. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 On Wed, 15 Jul 2009, Bret Busby wrote: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:11:41 +0800 (WST) From: Bret Busby b...@busby.net To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Really OT - HHGTTG - was Re: OT : was Re: Adding search engines to seamonkey On Wed, 15 Jul 2009, Daniel wrote: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:55:24 +1000 From: Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey Subject: OT : was Re: Adding search engines to seamonkey Bret Busby wrote: On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Philip Chee wrote: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:10:52 +0800 From: Philip Chee philip.c...@gmail.com snip -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 Two things Bret:- 1. Your sig de-limiter is broke (should be dash dash space), otherwise I could not have quoted it here, and, 2. Hitchhiker's guide is actually a trilogy in five parts. The citation is correct. The edition was published in 1992 by Pan Books an imprint of Pan MacMillan Ltd Pan MacMillan, 20 New Wharf Road, London N1 9RR Basingstoke and Oxford ... ISBN 0 330 31611 7. The front cover is a picture of a bathroom wall, with a Philishave (?) (three-headed) electric shaver on a glass shelf, on the left, on the right hand end of the glass shelf, is a digital watch, above that, is a glass hanging on the wall, containg three toothbrushes, and between the electricity supply socket ito which the electric shaver is plugged, and the glass hanging on the wall, is a mirror, containing an image of the Vogon bulldozer, oriented in the direction of travel from the top right corner of the mirror, to the bottom left corner of the mirror. The wall tiles are coloured darkish blue. See http://www.sfbok.se/asp/artikel.asp?VolumeID=24535 , for an illustration of the cover of the book. And, the cited quote is from the topmost paragraph on page 129 of the cited book. It is the second sentence of the paragraph. The first sentence of that paragraph, is 'Exactly!' said Deep Thought. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey [ Note: This message contains email list management information ] Drat, my failing memory! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability
Bret Busby schrieb: From what I understand, auto-refreshing is an HTML or javascript functionality, which is interpreted by the browser, rather than being funtionality of the browser. Thus, it is the code on the particular web pages, rather than something from within SeaMonkey, that causes the auto-refreshing. In reading the weather observations web page agin, after posting the message above, I found that the observations are updated every ten minutes, and the web page reloads every five minutes. Nothing significantly different to what I said above, I think, but it needed correcting. Apart from using the Classic theme, and Adobe Reader, which does not apply to the particular web pages, I believe that I have no extensions of plugins installed on this installation of SeaMonkey. Is there a simple way of finding what, if any, extensions and/or plugins are insstalled and linke to a SeaMonkey installation? type about:plugins in the address-bar. The news web page that refreshes when it wants to, is written in javascript, so I can't find the auto-refresh command. Aaaah, thought you had the tabbrowser extensions or similar and refrshing the tab(s). Feel free to use the NoScript extension or the prefbar and uncheck the Javscript checkbox of it. The weather observation web page that refreshes every five minutes, has the auto-refresh command included in the header HTML code; meta http-equiv=Refresh content=300 ; nice and simple, and easy to find. If SeaMonkey had a way of overruling auto-refreshing, by using a switch, the same way that some web browsers manage to overrule and stop pop-ups, it would be quite convenient, and, reduce bandwidth wastage None that I know of, maybe someone else has another hint for that one. I never had any problems with meta refresh, I still wonder why SM should crash from it, SM1 without exension is usually rock-stable. regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009, Martin Freitag wrote: Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:36:50 +0200 From: Martin Freitag prof_nosp...@quantentunnel.de To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability Bret Busby schrieb: From what I understand, auto-refreshing is an HTML or javascript functionality, which is interpreted by the browser, rather than being funtionality of the browser. Thus, it is the code on the particular web pages, rather than something from within SeaMonkey, that causes the auto-refreshing. In reading the weather observations web page agin, after posting the message above, I found that the observations are updated every ten minutes, and the web page reloads every five minutes. Nothing significantly different to what I said above, I think, but it needed correcting. Apart from using the Classic theme, and Adobe Reader, which does not apply to the particular web pages, I believe that I have no extensions of plugins installed on this installation of SeaMonkey. Is there a simple way of finding what, if any, extensions and/or plugins are insstalled and linke to a SeaMonkey installation? type about:plugins in the address-bar. 'Installed plug-ins Find more information about browser plug-ins at mozilla.org. Help for installing plug-ins is available from plugindoc.mozdev.org. Adobe Reader 9.1 File name: nppdf.so The Adobe Reader plugin is used to enable viewing of PDF and FDF files from within the browser. MIME Type Description SuffixesEnabled application/pdf Portable Document Formatpdf Yes application/vnd.fdf Acrobat Forms Data Format fdf Yes application/vnd.adobe.xfdf XML Version of Acrobat Forms Data Format xfdf Yes application/vnd.adobe.xdp+xml Acrobat XML Data Package xdp Yes application/vnd.adobe.xfd+xml Adobe FormFlow99 Data File xfd Yes' The news web page that refreshes when it wants to, is written in javascript, so I can't find the auto-refresh command. Aaaah, thought you had the tabbrowser extensions or similar and refrshing the tab(s). Feel free to use the NoScript extension or the prefbar and uncheck the Javscript checkbox of it. Used Edit - Preferences - Advanced - Scripts Plug-ins and unchecked Allow scripts to Change images and Disable or repace context menus which were the only items checked to allow scripts to do things. I then unchecked Enable Javascript for Navigator then Quit, then reloaded. I found that the previous step was superfluous, as, whenI diabled javascript for navigator, the options are grayed out. The weather observation web page that refreshes every five minutes, has the auto-refresh command included in the header HTML code; meta http-equiv=Refresh content=300 ; nice and simple, and easy to find. If SeaMonkey had a way of overruling auto-refreshing, by using a switch, the same way that some web browsers manage to overrule and stop pop-ups, it would be quite convenient, and, reduce bandwidth wastage None that I know of, maybe someone else has another hint for that one. I never had any problems with meta refresh, I still wonder why SM should crash from it, SM1 without exension is usually rock-stable. regards Martin -- I did not mean to suggest that the auto-refreshing caused the frequent crashing. But, the web pages that have the auto-refreshing, are left open, when the crashes occur. I will see what happens now. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, Daniel wrote: (P.S. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In *Five* Parts) That was dealt with by me, in a message posted to the list, in response to a similar claim, I believe by you, in mid-July. My citation was correct. See the message below. Please desist in incorrect corrections, that are not on-topic. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 On Wed, 15 Jul 2009, Bret Busby wrote: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:11:41 +0800 (WST) From: Bret Busby b...@busby.net To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Really OT - HHGTTG - was Re: OT : was Re: Adding search engines to seamonkey On Wed, 15 Jul 2009, Daniel wrote: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:55:24 +1000 From: Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey Subject: OT : was Re: Adding search engines to seamonkey Bret Busby wrote: On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Philip Chee wrote: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:10:52 +0800 From: Philip Chee philip.c...@gmail.com snip -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 Two things Bret:- 1. Your sig de-limiter is broke (should be dash dash space), otherwise I could not have quoted it here, and, 2. Hitchhiker's guide is actually a trilogy in five parts. The citation is correct. The edition was published in 1992 by Pan Books an imprint of Pan MacMillan Ltd Pan MacMillan, 20 New Wharf Road, London N1 9RR Basingstoke and Oxford ... ISBN 0 330 31611 7. The front cover is a picture of a bathroom wall, with a Philishave (?) (three-headed) electric shaver on a glass shelf, on the left, on the right hand end of the glass shelf, is a digital watch, above that, is a glass hanging on the wall, containg three toothbrushes, and between the electricity supply socket ito which the electric shaver is plugged, and the glass hanging on the wall, is a mirror, containing an image of the Vogon bulldozer, oriented in the direction of travel from the top right corner of the mirror, to the bottom left corner of the mirror. The wall tiles are coloured darkish blue. See http://www.sfbok.se/asp/artikel.asp?VolumeID=24535 , for an illustration of the cover of the book. And, the cited quote is from the topmost paragraph on page 129 of the cited book. It is the second sentence of the paragraph. The first sentence of that paragraph, is 'Exactly!' said Deep Thought. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey [ Note: This message contains email list management information ] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability
Bret Busby schrieb: I don't have Flash installed (I won't have anything to do with it), and I do not have Java enabled for SeaMonkey. I try also to avoid having anything to do with Java. When I leave SeaMonkey running and it crashes, as far as I am aware, it is not using any plugins. Two of the web sites that I access, in one of my browser windows (a particular bookmark set includes the two web sites), auto refresh, one about every ten minutes, the other, I am not sure of the frequency. I have not been able to find how to stop the auto-refreshing and thus how to instead use only manual refreshing. One web site is an online news web site, and the other is a weather observation web site. The weather one is the one that auto-refreshes at ten minute intervals. But, that auto-refreshing, should surely not cause the application to crash Auto-Refresh is no feature of SM afaik. Have you tried using these websites with a new SM-profile? (whithout installing any extension for the first start) regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Martin Freitag wrote: Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:32:16 +0200 From: Martin Freitag prof_nosp...@quantentunnel.de To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability Bret Busby schrieb: I don't have Flash installed (I won't have anything to do with it), and I do not have Java enabled for SeaMonkey. I try also to avoid having anything to do with Java. When I leave SeaMonkey running and it crashes, as far as I am aware, it is not using any plugins. Two of the web sites that I access, in one of my browser windows (a particular bookmark set includes the two web sites), auto refresh, one about every ten minutes, the other, I am not sure of the frequency. I have not been able to find how to stop the auto-refreshing and thus how to instead use only manual refreshing. One web site is an online news web site, and the other is a weather observation web site. The weather one is the one that auto-refreshes at ten minute intervals. But, that auto-refreshing, should surely not cause the application to crash Auto-Refresh is no feature of SM afaik. Have you tried using these websites with a new SM-profile? (whithout installing any extension for the first start) regards Martin From what I understand, auto-refreshing is an HTML or javascript functionality, which is interpreted by the browser, rather than being funtionality of the browser. Thus, it is the code on the particular web pages, rather than something from within SeaMonkey, that causes the auto-refreshing. In reading the weather observations web page agin, after posting the message above, I found that the observations are updated every ten minutes, and the web page reloads every five minutes. Nothing significantly different to what I said above, I think, but it needed correcting. Apart from using the Classic theme, and Adobe Reader, which does not apply to the particular web pages, I believe that I have no extensions of plugins installed on this installation of SeaMonkey. Is there a simple way of finding what, if any, extensions and/or plugins are insstalled and linke to a SeaMonkey installation? Thank you in anticipation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Bret Busby wrote: Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:16:58 +0800 (WST) From: Bret Busby b...@busby.net To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Martin Freitag wrote: Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:32:16 +0200 From: Martin Freitag prof_nosp...@quantentunnel.de To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Newsgroups: mozilla.support.seamonkey Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability Bret Busby schrieb: I don't have Flash installed (I won't have anything to do with it), and I do not have Java enabled for SeaMonkey. I try also to avoid having anything to do with Java. When I leave SeaMonkey running and it crashes, as far as I am aware, it is not using any plugins. Two of the web sites that I access, in one of my browser windows (a particular bookmark set includes the two web sites), auto refresh, one about every ten minutes, the other, I am not sure of the frequency. I have not been able to find how to stop the auto-refreshing and thus how to instead use only manual refreshing. One web site is an online news web site, and the other is a weather observation web site. The weather one is the one that auto-refreshes at ten minute intervals. But, that auto-refreshing, should surely not cause the application to crash Auto-Refresh is no feature of SM afaik. Have you tried using these websites with a new SM-profile? (whithout installing any extension for the first start) regards Martin From what I understand, auto-refreshing is an HTML or javascript functionality, which is interpreted by the browser, rather than being funtionality of the browser. Thus, it is the code on the particular web pages, rather than something from within SeaMonkey, that causes the auto-refreshing. In reading the weather observations web page agin, after posting the message above, I found that the observations are updated every ten minutes, and the web page reloads every five minutes. Nothing significantly different to what I said above, I think, but it needed correcting. Apart from using the Classic theme, and Adobe Reader, which does not apply to the particular web pages, I believe that I have no extensions of plugins installed on this installation of SeaMonkey. Is there a simple way of finding what, if any, extensions and/or plugins are insstalled and linke to a SeaMonkey installation? Thank you in anticipation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. The news web page that refreshes when it wants to, is written in javascript, so I can't find the auto-refresh command. The weather observation web page that refreshes every five minutes, has the auto-refresh command included in the header HTML code; meta http-equiv=Refresh content=300 ; nice and simple, and easy to find. If SeaMonkey had a way of overruling auto-refreshing, by using a switch, the same way that some web browsers manage to overrule and stop pop-ups, it would be quite convenient, and, reduce bandwidth wastage. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability
Hello. I am running Ubuntu 8.04, which is the latest LTS version of Ubuntu. The latest version of SeaMonkey, that is available for this version of Ubuntu, from the Ubuntu repository, is SeaMonkey 1.1.17 My experience of this version of SeaMonkey, is that it consistently crashes. If I leave one or more browser windows open, and lock the computer screen, and walk away, and come back later, SeaMonkey can be relied on to have crashed. From what I understand, with MS Windows 95, that operating system would run for 29 days (I think it was), and then it was supposed to crash. SeaMonkey cannot run for anywhere near that length of time. Sometimes, maybe a few hours, sometimes, maybe a day or two, sometimes, if lucky, a few days. But, not much longer than that, very often. With gxine, I found two web sites (one being the 2009 World Masters Games web site), that would cause a system crash, every time the web site was visited. The other web site is a loony political party web site, that I found. SeaMonkey would open many pop-ups, that I cannot prevent, and then the system would crash. One of the pop-ups that was opened, that I saw, just before bthe syetm crashed, was gxine. I removed gxine from the system, and that got rid of the system crash problem, from those two web sites. But, SeaMonkey is still completely unstable, on this computer running Ubuntu 8.04. Does anyone else have this problem? -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: Hello. I am running Ubuntu 8.04, which is the latest LTS version of Ubuntu. The latest version of SeaMonkey, that is available for this version of Ubuntu, from the Ubuntu repository, is SeaMonkey 1.1.17 My experience of this version of SeaMonkey, is that it consistently crashes. If I leave one or more browser windows open, and lock the computer screen, and walk away, and come back later, SeaMonkey can be relied on to have crashed. From what I understand, with MS Windows 95, that operating system would run for 29 days (I think it was), and then it was supposed to crash. SeaMonkey cannot run for anywhere near that length of time. Sometimes, maybe a few hours, sometimes, maybe a day or two, sometimes, if lucky, a few days. But, not much longer than that, very often. With gxine, I found two web sites (one being the 2009 World Masters Games web site), that would cause a system crash, every time the web site was visited. The other web site is a loony political party web site, that I found. SeaMonkey would open many pop-ups, that I cannot prevent, and then the system would crash. One of the pop-ups that was opened, that I saw, just before bthe syetm crashed, was gxine. I removed gxine from the system, and that got rid of the system crash problem, from those two web sites. But, SeaMonkey is still completely unstable, on this computer running Ubuntu 8.04. Does anyone else have this problem? I don't use Ubuntu but I do use Seamonkey on Linux for hours a day and the crashes I've experienced are almost always caused by plug-ins. In my case, I use 64-bit seamonkey and the crashes were almost always caused by the 32-bit Adobe Flash plug-in, which I was using via nspluginwrapper. Once the native 64-bit Flash plugin came out that basically eliminated the crashes. (I've also have Java-related crashes). If you have gxine opening then it sounds like perhaps embedded media or plug-in related. I use the gecko-mediaplayer plugin (as opposed to mplayerplug-in or calling external helper apps) and it seems to work alright; at least it doesn't crash for me. (I don't use nspluginwrapper at all now, it's not even installed) Other causes for crashes I've experienced have been some versions of KDE4 (where all gtk+ apps crased randomly, perhaps related to my installed gtk-engines/themes or something) In general, though, normal everyday use for me is fine and it does not crash. Are you using 32-bit or 64-bit? Have you tried uninstalling plugins etc? I am using 32-bit. I don't have Flash installed (I won't have anything to do with it), and I do not have Java enabled for SeaMonkey. I try also to avoid having anything to do with Java. When I leave SeaMonkey running and it crashes, as far as I am aware, it is not using any plugins. Two of the web sites that I access, in one of my browser windows (a particular bookmark set includes the two web sites), auto refresh, one about every ten minutes, the other, I am not sure of the frequency. I have not been able to find how to stop the auto-refreshing and thus how to instead use only manual refreshing. One web site is an online news web site, and the other is a weather observation web site. The weather one is the one that auto-refreshes at ten minute intervals. But, that auto-refreshing, should surely not cause the application to crash I use GNOME rather than KDE, although I have KDE applications installed (I think that it is a KDE version of solitaire, or patience, that is the only one that I can handle; a nice, simple, single card dealing game). I use the Classic theme for SeaMonkey. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.17 instability
On 10/14/2009 08:58 AM, Bret Busby wrote: Hello. I am running Ubuntu 8.04, which is the latest LTS version of Ubuntu. The latest version of SeaMonkey, that is available for this version of Ubuntu, from the Ubuntu repository, is SeaMonkey 1.1.17 ... I removed gxine from the system, and that got rid of the system crash problem, from those two web sites. But, SeaMonkey is still completely unstable, on this computer running Ubuntu 8.04. Does anyone else have this problem? You'll need to report those issues here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seamonkey/+bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/gxine I recommend downloading SeaMonkey 2.0[1], extract to it's own folder in your home directory (~/seamonkey) and running from there. [1] http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0rc1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
