On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Paul Hartman wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Bret Busby <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello.
I am running Ubuntu 8.04, which is the latest LTS version of Ubuntu.
The latest version of SeaMonkey, that is available for this version of
Ubuntu, from the Ubuntu repository, is SeaMonkey 1.1.17
My experience of this version of SeaMonkey, is that it consistently crashes.
If I leave one or more browser windows open, and lock the computer screen,
and walk away, and come back later, SeaMonkey can be relied on to have
crashed.
From what I understand, with MS Windows 95, that operating system would run
for 29 days (I think it was), and then it was supposed to crash.
SeaMonkey cannot run for anywhere near that length of time. Sometimes, maybe
a few hours, sometimes, maybe a day or two, sometimes, if lucky, a few days.
But, not much longer than that, very often.
With gxine, I found two web sites (one being the 2009 World Masters Games
web site), that would cause a system crash, every time the web site was
visited. The other web site is a loony political party web site, that I
found.
SeaMonkey would open many pop-ups, that I cannot prevent, and then the
system would crash. One of the pop-ups that was opened, that I saw, just
before bthe syetm crashed, was gxine.
I removed gxine from the system, and that got rid of the system crash
problem, from those two web sites.
But, SeaMonkey is still completely unstable, on this computer running Ubuntu
8.04.
Does anyone else have this problem?
I don't use Ubuntu but I do use Seamonkey on Linux for hours a day and
the crashes I've experienced are almost always caused by plug-ins. In
my case, I use 64-bit seamonkey and the crashes were almost always
caused by the 32-bit Adobe Flash plug-in, which I was using via
nspluginwrapper. Once the native 64-bit Flash plugin came out that
basically eliminated the crashes. (I've also have Java-related
crashes). If you have gxine opening then it sounds like perhaps
embedded media or plug-in related. I use the gecko-mediaplayer plugin
(as opposed to mplayerplug-in or calling external helper apps) and it
seems to work alright; at least it doesn't crash for me. (I don't use
nspluginwrapper at all now, it's not even installed)
Other causes for crashes I've experienced have been some versions of
KDE4 (where all gtk+ apps crased randomly, perhaps related to my
installed gtk-engines/themes or something)
In general, though, normal everyday use for me is fine and it does not crash.
Are you using 32-bit or 64-bit? Have you tried uninstalling plugins etc?
I am using 32-bit.
I don't have Flash installed (I won't have anything to do with it), and
I do not have Java enabled for SeaMonkey. I try also to avoid having
anything to do with Java.
When I leave SeaMonkey running and it crashes, as far as I am aware, it
is not using any plugins.
Two of the web sites that I access, in one of my browser windows (a
particular bookmark set includes the two web sites), auto refresh, one
about every ten minutes, the other, I am not sure of the frequency. I
have not been able to find how to stop the auto-refreshing and thus how
to instead use only manual refreshing.
One web site is an online news web site, and the other is a weather
observation web site. The weather one is the one that auto-refreshes at
ten minute intervals.
But, that auto-refreshing, should surely not cause the application to
crash
I use GNOME rather than KDE, although I have KDE applications installed
(I think that it is a KDE version of solitaire, or patience, that is the
only one that I can handle; a nice, simple, single card dealing game).
I use the Classic theme for SeaMonkey.
--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............
"So once you do know what the question actually is,
you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
A Trilogy In Four Parts",
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992
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