Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-26 Thread notme 
I find Prefbar very useful with both SM and FF. You must download, 
install, and configure it separately in each browser.


Ant wrote:

On 9/24/2018 6:24 PM, mar...@marico.cc wrote:
...
I responded to this asking how to do it. Then later read other posts 
sending me to Prefbar to download. I am Windows 7 using SeaMonkey. Do 
I download from SM or from FF. And after I download, what do I do from 
there? Thank you but SM almost expects users to be Technicians...user 
since 2007. Also 2.49.4 keeps hanging several times every day. I keep 
having to shut down and re-launch. Sometimes I just give up and us FF. 
I want to keep SM because I have my own domain and get my email there. 
Also many videos won't play in SM and I need to go to FF if I want to 
see them.  Thanks a bunch... mar...@marico.cc


http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org to download it and install in your SM web 
browser.


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-25 Thread Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey 

On 9/24/2018 3:13 PM, twbartender wrote:

I'm also having problems with google.com. Specifically the google search function 
using both Seamonkey version 2.49.3 & the latest version, 2.49.4. When trying 
to type anything in the Google Search Box, it only uses the upper left corner of 
the box, and when you get to 19 characters, the beginning of what was typed becomes 
hidden if what you are trying to ask is longer than the 19 characters. If you copy 
and paste something into the box, only the last 19 characters are visible.

On 9/11/18 I posted my problem on the Google Search Help Forum, found here: 
https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/d/msgid/websearch/e4a0cbeb-a533-4b62-b714-fab0ef77e111%40googleproductforums.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer

On 9/16/18 I replied to my own post with an answer to the problem I found by doing more 
digging. It seems that unchecking the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option 
found in the Seamonkey preferences allows the search box to function as it should: The 
original link to the answer can be found here:
https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/websearch/w6JUJvS5nMw/6QzWOLY_CQAJ

At first all seemed to function as it should until I realized that the actual search page looks different when the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked compared to when it's checked. I also found that the 
search settings cannot be changed when the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked. A much 
greater issue I discovered was the fact that when searching for photos with the "Advertise Firefox 
compatibility" option is unchecked, the results page not only shows a page of photos, it also includes a 4 to 5 
line description under each of 20 photos returned from the search. I attempted to find an option to turn off the photo 
descriptions, but the option doesn't exist. The only way to remove the photo descriptions is to re-check the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option. By re-checking the option none of the photos include a description 
under them. Also the search settings functions now works as they should.

This is becoming very frustrating and a real pain in the butt... From what I've learned 
the problem most likely is directly related to the Seamonkey User Agent, but I've been 
unable figure out how to create a user agent string that functions correctly with Google 
Search. With the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option unchecked seamonkey 
reports my user agent as: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 When the option is checked, the user agent is: User 
agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4



To their credit, I guess, Google programmers made the effort to write 
special CSS code used for just for Gecko-based, non-Firefox browsers. 
Unfortunately they botched the job as shown by the search entry box problem.


I fixed the problem with about 25 lines of .css code in my 
userContent.css file, but that was going to break again as soon as they 
changed something.  So I removed all that and just added an override in 
about:config:


general.useragent.override.google.com:  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; 
Win64; x64; rv:61.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/61.0


Fixed.  I've already had to add overrides for Chase, Yahoo and the post 
office, at this point what's one more?


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-25 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 9/24/2018 6:24 PM, mar...@marico.cc wrote:
...

I responded to this asking how to do it. Then later read other posts sending me 
to Prefbar to download. I am Windows 7 using SeaMonkey. Do I download from SM 
or from FF. And after I download, what do I do from there? Thank you but SM 
almost expects users to be Technicians...user since 2007. Also 2.49.4 keeps 
hanging several times every day. I keep having to shut down and re-launch. 
Sometimes I just give up and us FF. I want to keep SM because I have my own 
domain and get my email there. Also many videos won't play in SM and I need to 
go to FF if I want to see them.  Thanks a bunch... mar...@marico.cc


http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org to download it and install in your SM web 
browser.

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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-25 Thread twbartender 
To fix the problem, proceed with these steps:

1) In either version 2.49.3 or 2.49.4 of Seamonkey Address Bar, type (or paste):

about:config


2) After you type or paste you may see a warning (and if so) then click "I 
accept the risk!"
3) In Search Bar you can type "override" to check if there are requested 
settings (just to be sure you'll not double anything)
3) If you did no. 3 then you can easily look for

general.useragent.site_specific_overrides


Check to see if it is set to default "true". If not then click RMB (Right Mouse 
Button) and choose "Reset" (when preference is default then Reset is grayed out)
4) If new preferences is not present already (e.g. you did it in past but 
forgot about this) then click RMB anywhere and choose: New -> String
5) In window named "New string value" enter/paste the following new preference 
name:

   general.useragent.override.google.com


... and then click OK (or press Enter key).
6) New window will pop-up "Enter string value" for 
"general.useragent.override.google.com". You can enter/paste the new value:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0


...  and then click OK (or press Enter key).
7) Now you should see new preference. If there is no new value or you want to 
change old one then just double click the LMB (Left Mouse Button) on it and 
edit as you want.
It should work without restart of SeaMonkey.

And remember! Such override is made per domain (here: google.com).


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-24 Thread Felix Miata 
no...@nonospam.org composed on 2018-09-02 12:07 (UTC-0500):

> Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced 
> to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed 
> in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the 
> search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every 
> computer I tried it on.

> Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I 
> haven't seen this on any other website.

> Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any 
> ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!

If you move the box up, making it wider, does the 19 character limit remain?
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/sm2-1b3.jpg

No search box problems here (also no FF UA advertising):
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4;
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-24 Thread marion 
On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 4:00:18 PM UTC-6, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
> Replying to a couple of suggestions from different responders:
> 
> Clearing my cache did not fix this.
> 
> Using the Prefbar add-on, changing my User Agent from SM to Firefox DID 
> fix it. Switching back and forth between the two, it is repeatable.
> 
> Thanks for the suggestions!
> 
> John
> 
> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
> > Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> >> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=3=3041415=14808162#p14808162
> >>  
> >>
> >>
> >> no...@nonospam.org wrote:
> >>> Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was 
> >>> displaced to the top of the
> >>> search box instead of being centered, and as I typed in a search some 
> >>> of the words would
> >>> spill over to a second line in the search box. This happened only 
> >>> with SM, and it
> >>> happened on every computer I tried it on.
> >>>
> >>> Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back 
> >>> again. I haven't seen
> >>> this on any other website.
> >>>
> >>> Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? 
> >>> Any ideas on how to
> >>> eliminate it? Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> John
> > 
> > Google has changed a few things in the last few days.
> > IMO, they did initial testing a few weeks ago.
> > My user string does not have your problem in SM on this machine,
> > but the same string in FF on a different machine does what you said.
> > On both machines Google has eliminated the URL that bypasses their
> > "search help" so that now every letter I type gets sent to Google
> > which then suggests search words.  I hate that and their reporting home.
> > 
> > 
> 
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I responded to this asking how to do it. Then later read other posts sending me 
to Prefbar to download. I am Windows 7 using SeaMonkey. Do I download from SM 
or from FF. And after I download, what do I do from there? Thank you but SM 
almost expects users to be Technicians...user since 2007. Also 2.49.4 keeps 
hanging several times every day. I keep having to shut down and re-launch. 
Sometimes I just give up and us FF. I want to keep SM because I have my own 
domain and get my email there. Also many videos won't play in SM and I need to 
go to FF if I want to see them.  Thanks a bunch... mar...@marico.cc
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-24 Thread marion 
On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 4:00:18 PM UTC-6, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
> Replying to a couple of suggestions from different responders:
> 
> Clearing my cache did not fix this.
> 
> Using the Prefbar add-on, changing my User Agent from SM to Firefox DID 
> fix it. Switching back and forth between the two, it is repeatable.
> 
> Thanks for the suggestions!
> 
> John
> 
> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
> > Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> >> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=3=3041415=14808162#p14808162
> >>  
> >>
> >>
> >> no...@nonospam.org wrote:
> >>> Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was 
> >>> displaced to the top of the
> >>> search box instead of being centered, and as I typed in a search some 
> >>> of the words would
> >>> spill over to a second line in the search box. This happened only 
> >>> with SM, and it
> >>> happened on every computer I tried it on.
> >>>
> >>> Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back 
> >>> again. I haven't seen
> >>> this on any other website.
> >>>
> >>> Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? 
> >>> Any ideas on how to
> >>> eliminate it? Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> John
> > 
> > Google has changed a few things in the last few days.
> > IMO, they did initial testing a few weeks ago.
> > My user string does not have your problem in SM on this machine,
> > but the same string in FF on a different machine does what you said.
> > On both machines Google has eliminated the URL that bypasses their
> > "search help" so that now every letter I type gets sent to Google
> > which then suggests search words.  I hate that and their reporting home.
> > 
> > 
> 
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> Therefore, please reply in this newsgroup. Thank you.

How do you do this?? I am not a techi and really need help. Do I go to tools 
and addons and ask for prefbar. I did this and get a list of toolbars. Should I 
download one of those in my SM? I am mar...@marico.cc ... Thanks so much
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-24 Thread WaltS48 

On 9/24/18 4:13 PM, twbartender wrote:

I'm also having problems with google.com. Specifically the google search function 
using both Seamonkey version 2.49.3 & the latest version, 2.49.4. When trying 
to type anything in the Google Search Box, it only uses the upper left corner of 
the box, and when you get to 19 characters, the beginning of what was typed becomes 
hidden if what you are trying to ask is longer than the 19 characters. If you copy 
and paste something into the box, only the last 19 characters are visible.

On 9/11/18 I posted my problem on the Google Search Help Forum, found here: 
https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/d/msgid/websearch/e4a0cbeb-a533-4b62-b714-fab0ef77e111%40googleproductforums.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer

On 9/16/18 I replied to my own post with an answer to the problem I found by doing more 
digging. It seems that unchecking the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option 
found in the Seamonkey preferences allows the search box to function as it should: The 
original link to the answer can be found here:
https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/websearch/w6JUJvS5nMw/6QzWOLY_CQAJ

At first all seemed to function as it should until I realized that the actual search page looks different when the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked compared to when it's checked. I also found that the 
search settings cannot be changed when the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked. A much 
greater issue I discovered was the fact that when searching for photos with the "Advertise Firefox 
compatibility" option is unchecked, the results page not only shows a page of photos, it also includes a 4 to 5 
line description under each of 20 photos returned from the search. I attempted to find an option to turn off the photo 
descriptions, but the option doesn't exist. The only way to remove the photo descriptions is to re-check the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option. By re-checking the option none of the photos include a description 
under them. Also the search settings functions now works as they should.

This is becoming very frustrating and a real pain in the butt... From what I've learned 
the problem most likely is directly related to the Seamonkey User Agent, but I've been 
unable figure out how to create a user agent string that functions correctly with Google 
Search. With the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option unchecked seamonkey 
reports my user agent as: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 When the option is checked, the user agent is: User 
agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4



Use a user agent string that advertises the browser as Chrome, or the 
built-in DuckDuckGo search.


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-24 Thread TCW via support-seamonkey 

On 9/24/2018 3:13 PM, twbartender wrote:

I'm also having problems with google.com. Specifically the google search function 
using both Seamonkey version 2.49.3 & the latest version, 2.49.4. When trying 
to type anything in the Google Search Box, it only uses the upper left corner of 
the box, and when you get to 19 characters, the beginning of what was typed becomes 
hidden if what you are trying to ask is longer than the 19 characters. If you copy 
and paste something into the box, only the last 19 characters are visible.

On 9/11/18 I posted my problem on the Google Search Help Forum, found here: 
https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/d/msgid/websearch/e4a0cbeb-a533-4b62-b714-fab0ef77e111%40googleproductforums.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer

On 9/16/18 I replied to my own post with an answer to the problem I found by doing more 
digging. It seems that unchecking the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option 
found in the Seamonkey preferences allows the search box to function as it should: The 
original link to the answer can be found here:
https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/websearch/w6JUJvS5nMw/6QzWOLY_CQAJ

At first all seemed to function as it should until I realized that the actual search page looks different when the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked compared to when it's checked. I also found that the 
search settings cannot be changed when the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked. A much 
greater issue I discovered was the fact that when searching for photos with the "Advertise Firefox 
compatibility" option is unchecked, the results page not only shows a page of photos, it also includes a 4 to 5 
line description under each of 20 photos returned from the search. I attempted to find an option to turn off the photo 
descriptions, but the option doesn't exist. The only way to remove the photo descriptions is to re-check the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option. By re-checking the option none of the photos include a description 
under them. Also the search settings functions now works as they should.

This is becoming very frustrating and a real pain in the butt... From what I've learned 
the problem most likely is directly related to the Seamonkey User Agent, but I've been 
unable figure out how to create a user agent string that functions correctly with Google 
Search. With the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option unchecked seamonkey 
reports my user agent as: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 When the option is checked, the user agent is: User 
agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4



This something Google changed on their end and it affects Seamonkey.
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-24 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 
Don't forget to leave a feedback in its 
https://www.google.com/tools/feedback/mobile_feedback_no_login?hl=en=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F=true=true=196=websearch.


On 9/24/2018 1:13 PM, twbartender wrote:

I'm also having problems with google.com. Specifically the google search function 
using both Seamonkey version 2.49.3 & the latest version, 2.49.4. When trying 
to type anything in the Google Search Box, it only uses the upper left corner of 
the box, and when you get to 19 characters, the beginning of what was typed becomes 
hidden if what you are trying to ask is longer than the 19 characters. If you copy 
and paste something into the box, only the last 19 characters are visible.

On 9/11/18 I posted my problem on the Google Search Help Forum, found here: 
https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/d/msgid/websearch/e4a0cbeb-a533-4b62-b714-fab0ef77e111%40googleproductforums.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer

On 9/16/18 I replied to my own post with an answer to the problem I found by doing more 
digging. It seems that unchecking the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option 
found in the Seamonkey preferences allows the search box to function as it should: The 
original link to the answer can be found here:
https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/websearch/w6JUJvS5nMw/6QzWOLY_CQAJ

At first all seemed to function as it should until I realized that the actual search page looks different when the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked compared to when it's checked. I also found that the 
search settings cannot be changed when the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked. A much 
greater issue I discovered was the fact that when searching for photos with the "Advertise Firefox 
compatibility" option is unchecked, the results page not only shows a page of photos, it also includes a 4 to 5 
line description under each of 20 photos returned from the search. I attempted to find an option to turn off the photo 
descriptions, but the option doesn't exist. The only way to remove the photo descriptions is to re-check the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option. By re-checking the option none of the photos include a description 
under them. Also the search settings functions now works as they should.

This is becoming very frustrating and a real pain in the butt... From what I've learned 
the problem most likely is directly related to the Seamonkey User Agent, but I've been 
unable figure out how to create a user agent string that functions correctly with Google 
Search. With the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option unchecked seamonkey 
reports my user agent as: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 When the option is checked, the user agent is: User 
agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-24 Thread twbartender 
I'm also having problems with google.com. Specifically the google search 
function using both Seamonkey version 2.49.3 & the latest version, 2.49.4. When 
trying to type anything in the Google Search Box, it only uses the upper left 
corner of the box, and when you get to 19 characters, the beginning of what was 
typed becomes hidden if what you are trying to ask is longer than the 19 
characters. If you copy and paste something into the box, only the last 19 
characters are visible.

On 9/11/18 I posted my problem on the Google Search Help Forum, found here: 
https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/d/msgid/websearch/e4a0cbeb-a533-4b62-b714-fab0ef77e111%40googleproductforums.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer

On 9/16/18 I replied to my own post with an answer to the problem I found by 
doing more digging. It seems that unchecking the "Advertise Firefox 
compatibility" option found in the Seamonkey preferences allows the search box 
to function as it should: The original link to the answer can be found here:
https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/websearch/w6JUJvS5nMw/6QzWOLY_CQAJ

At first all seemed to function as it should until I realized that the actual 
search page looks different when the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option 
is unchecked compared to when it's checked. I also found that the search 
settings cannot be changed when the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is 
unchecked. A much greater issue I discovered was the fact that when searching 
for photos with the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked, the 
results page not only shows a page of photos, it also includes a 4 to 5 line 
description under each of 20 photos returned from the search. I attempted to 
find an option to turn off the photo descriptions, but the option doesn't 
exist. The only way to remove the photo descriptions is to re-check the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option. By re-checking the option none of the 
photos include a description under them. Also the search settings functions now 
works as they should.

This is becoming very frustrating and a real pain in the butt... From what I've 
learned the problem most likely is directly related to the Seamonkey User 
Agent, but I've been unable figure out how to create a user agent string that 
functions correctly with Google Search. With the "Advertise Firefox 
compatibility" option unchecked seamonkey reports my user agent as: User agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 
When the option is checked, the user agent is: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4

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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-13 Thread GerardJan 

Daniel wrote:

stevekgr...@gmail.com wrote on 13/09/2018 8:38 AM:

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 12:07:54 PM UTC-5, no...@nonospam.org
wrote:

Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was
displaced to the top of the search box instead of being centered,
and as I typed in a search some of the words would spill over to a
second line in the search box. This happened only with SM, and it
happened on every computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back
again. I haven't seen this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or
Edge? Any ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!

John -- Q: What's the quickest way to get a mailbox full of spam? A: Post a 
message in any newsgroup using a real email address.


Therefore, please reply in this newsgroup. Thank you.


I am having the same problem.  Am running SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on a
Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit machine.  I have seen work arounds for
Win 7 Ultimate but not for my OS. Since this is a Google initiated
problem, seems to me Google should fix it instead of me having to
jump thru hoops for a work around.  I am not that webpage code
knoledgeable so I have no idea what folks are talking about when they


knowledgable so I have no idea what folks are talking about when they


talk about "about:config" or
"general.useragen.site_specific_overrides"  Any help greatly


general.useragent.site_specific_overrides


appreciated.

Steve, those two things you mention are not webpage coding, they are browser 
coding, if you like, because they can effect how *YOUR* browser works on *YOUR* 
computer.


If you type "about:config" (without the inverted commas) in your browser 
addressbar (or even just click on the term above), you should get a warning page 
advising you that any changes you make could break SeaMonkey. If you accept the 
warning, you will then see a screen listing all (well, almost all) the 
preferences that effect how SeaMonkey operates.


Some/Most will be set to "default" whilst some will be bolded and state "user 
set" because you changed something that effected how SM operated. Some of the 
preference names are relatively self-explanatory, whilst some might be mysterious!!





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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-13 Thread Daniel 

stevekgr...@gmail.com wrote on 13/09/2018 8:38 AM:

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 12:07:54 PM UTC-5, no...@nonospam.org
wrote:

Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was
displaced to the top of the search box instead of being centered,
and as I typed in a search some of the words would spill over to a
second line in the search box. This happened only with SM, and it
happened on every computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back
again. I haven't seen this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or
Edge? Any ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!

John -- Q: What's the quickest way to get a mailbox full of spam? 
A: Post a message in any newsgroup using a real email address.


Therefore, please reply in this newsgroup. Thank you.


I am having the same problem.  Am running SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on a
Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit machine.  I have seen work arounds for
Win 7 Ultimate but not for my OS. Since this is a Google initiated
problem, seems to me Google should fix it instead of me having to
jump thru hoops for a work around.  I am not that webpage code
knoledgeable so I have no idea what folks are talking about when they
talk about "about:config" or
"general.useragen.site_specific_overrides"  Any help greatly
appreciated.

Steve, those two things you mention are not webpage coding, they are 
browser coding, if you like, because they can effect how *YOUR* browser 
works on *YOUR* computer.


If you type "about:config" (without the inverted commas) in your browser 
addressbar (or even just click on the term above), you should get a 
warning page advising you that any changes you make could break 
SeaMonkey. If you accept the warning, you will then see a screen listing 
all (well, almost all) the preferences that effect how SeaMonkey operates.


Some/Most will be set to "default" whilst some will be bolded and state 
"user set" because you changed something that effected how SM operated. 
Some of the preference names are relatively self-explanatory, whilst 
some might be mysterious!!


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-12 Thread stevekgreer 
On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 12:07:54 PM UTC-5, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
> Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced 
> to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed 
> in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the 
> search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every 
> computer I tried it on.
> 
> Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I 
> haven't seen this on any other website.
> 
> Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any 
> ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!
> 
> John
> -- 
> Q: What's the quickest way to get a mailbox full of spam?
> A: Post a message in any newsgroup using a real email address.
> 
> Therefore, please reply in this newsgroup. Thank you.

I am having the same problem.  Am running SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on a Windows 7 
Professional 64 Bit machine.  I have seen work arounds for Win 7 Ultimate but 
not for my OS. Since this is a Google initiated problem, seems to me Google 
should fix it instead of me having to jump thru hoops for a work around.  I am 
not that webpage code knoledgeable so I have no idea what folks are talking 
about when they talk about "about:config" or 
"general.useragen.site_specific_overrides"  Any help greatly appreciated.
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-12 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

Yeah, but it's not the default. Google should really fix it. :(


On 9/12/2018 10:48 AM, Mike C wrote:

UNCHECKING this fixed the problem:
Edit | Preferences | Advanced | HTTP Networking
[ ] Advertise Firefox compatibility...

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2018-09-12 Thread Mike C 

UNCHECKING this fixed the problem:
Edit | Preferences | Advanced | HTTP Networking
[ ] Advertise Firefox compatibility

Ant wrote:

Edit | Preferences | Advanced | HTTP Networking
[ ] Advertise Firefox compatibility

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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-07 Thread Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey 

On 9/4/2018 11:31 PM, Ant wrote:

On 9/4/2018 9:27 PM, Ant wrote:

On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/2/2018 10:07 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced
to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed
in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the
search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every
computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back 
again. I

haven't seen this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? 
Any

ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!

John



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not have this problem.


Is that your SM's UA? If so, then how come not its default "User 
agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4)"?


I reported this in 
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/websearch/7ED-qV__XCc;context-place=forum/websearch. 
I don't know if that will work. Is there an official way to do it? Does 
anyone have official connections to their web site search team? ;)


To their credit, the Google programmers made the effort to generate 
specific code for the search results page that they serve to SeaMonkey 
and (probably) other Gecko-based browsers that aren't FireFox. 
Unfortunately they botched the job, using, for example, one CSS 
directive ("moz-flex-wrap") that never existed and breaks the input 
field layout.


They should just forget the browser-specific moz-box code since all 
Gecko browsers have supported the "flex" box model for years.


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-07 Thread ant--- via support-seamonkey 
Weird. My public newsgroup post is missing in my SM's newsreader:

"Error!
newsgroup server responded:no such article in group

Perhaps the article has expired

 (110046)

Click here to remove all expired articles".


Is anyone else not seeing it too? I tried repairing and redownloading this 
newsgroup, but it is still missing. Was there a hiccup or something? :(


On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 9:26:11 AM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
> Ah, thanks! That's a strange place to put its "Send Feedback" link 
> (https://www.google.com/tools/feedback/mobile_feedback_no_login?hl=en=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F=true=true=196=websearch).
>  
> I guess they didn't want many feedbacks like this one. :P I just 
> submitted my feedback with 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.support.seamonkey/KzkEZ1bu2Xc 
> link as a reference. Hopefully, Google will read and fix this issue soon. :)
> 
> 
> On 9/5/2018 8:52 PM, rjkrjk wrote:
> > at the bottom of the google search page, lower right corner SETTINGS / 
> > Send Feedback
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ant wrote on 9/5/18 2:31 AM:
> >> Where exactly? I just got an unofficial answer in my 
> >> https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/d/msgid/websearch/52647935-ab18-4451-981a-c80bd11afad9%40googleproductforums.com
> >>  
> >> forum thread. Maybe you can share your screen shot/capture too.
> >>
> >> On 9/4/2018 10:21 PM, rjkrjk wrote:
> >>> I also left feedback on the site.dont expect much
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-06 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 
Ah, thanks! That's a strange place to put its "Send Feedback" link 
(https://www.google.com/tools/feedback/mobile_feedback_no_login?hl=en=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F=true=true=196=websearch). 
I guess they didn't want many feedbacks like this one. :P I just 
submitted my feedback with 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.support.seamonkey/KzkEZ1bu2Xc 
link as a reference. Hopefully, Google will read and fix this issue soon. :)



On 9/5/2018 8:52 PM, rjkrjk wrote:
at the bottom of the google search page, lower right corner SETTINGS / 
Send Feedback





Ant wrote on 9/5/18 2:31 AM:
Where exactly? I just got an unofficial answer in my 
https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/d/msgid/websearch/52647935-ab18-4451-981a-c80bd11afad9%40googleproductforums.com 
forum thread. Maybe you can share your screen shot/capture too.


On 9/4/2018 10:21 PM, rjkrjk wrote:

I also left feedback on the site.dont expect much

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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread GerardJan 

Lee wrote:

On 9/5/18, David E. Ross  wrote:
   <.. snip ..>


Furthermore, I also use the Secret Agent extension, which keeps changing
my UA string -- among other spoofed HTTP header fields -- to confound
tracking me.


Are you using a VPN?  If no, tracking by ip address is probably good
enough.  And if you have javascript enabled.. there are plenty too
many hits for a search on "javascript fingerprinting"

Regards,
Lee



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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread rjkrjk 

at the bottom of the google search page, lower right corner SETTINGS / Send 
Feedback




Ant wrote on 9/5/18 2:31 AM:
Where exactly? I just got an unofficial answer in my 
https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/d/msgid/websearch/52647935-ab18-4451-981a-c80bd11afad9%40googleproductforums.com 
forum thread. Maybe you can share your screen shot/capture too.


On 9/4/2018 10:21 PM, rjkrjk wrote:

I also left feedback on the site.dont expect much

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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread Lee 
On 9/5/18, David E. Ross  wrote:
  <.. snip ..>
>
> Furthermore, I also use the Secret Agent extension, which keeps changing
> my UA string -- among other spoofed HTTP header fields -- to confound
> tracking me.

Are you using a VPN?  If no, tracking by ip address is probably good
enough.  And if you have javascript enabled.. there are plenty too
many hits for a search on "javascript fingerprinting"

Regards,
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread Paul in Houston, TX 

Ant wrote:

On 9/2/2018 10:07 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced to the 
top of the
search box instead of being centered, and as I typed in a search some of the 
words would
spill over to a second line in the search box. This happened only with SM, and 
it
happened on every computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I 
haven't seen
this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any ideas 
on how to
eliminate it? Thanks!


Same here. :(


This does not show up my SM machines.  It only shows up on my FF machines.
I do not have both on any of the machines.  Changing UA makes no difference for 
me.
A good sniffer will ignore the UA string and ID your machine, anyways.
Rumors have it that there are no people at Google, only bots.


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread David E. Ross 
On 9/4/2018 9:27 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 9/2/2018 10:07 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
>>> Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced
>>> to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed
>>> in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the
>>> search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every
>>> computer I tried it on.
>>>
>>> Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I
>>> haven't seen this on any other website.
>>>
>>> Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any
>>> ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>
>> Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
>>  SeaMonkey/2.49.4
>>
>> I do not have this problem.
> 
> Is that your SM's UA? If so, then how come not its default "User agent: 
> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
> SeaMonkey/2.49.4)"?
> 

I disable "Advertise Firefox compatibility" because I want to advertise
the existence of SeaMonkey.  Using PrefBar, I can also have the UA string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4, NOT Firefox/60.0

Furthermore, I also use the Secret Agent extension, which keeps changing
my UA string -- among other spoofed HTTP header fields -- to confound
tracking me.

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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 9/5/2018 12:27 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 9/4/2018 10:57 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ant wrote:


On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:


Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not have this problem.


Is that your SM's UA? If so, then how come not its default "User 
agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4)"?


Edit | Preferences | Advanced | HTTP Networking
[ ] Advertise Firefox compatibility

Toggle this pref to "on" to restore the default with "Firefox/52.0."


Mine is already checkmarked.


Well, you did ask, "how come not its default...?" David must have it 
unchecked. It helps with some sites.


Yeah, unchecking it to "User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; 
rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4" makes the search look correct. 
:/ How often do web sites not work with and without this option?

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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

Ant wrote:

On 9/4/2018 10:57 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ant wrote:


On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:


Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not have this problem.


Is that your SM's UA? If so, then how come not its default "User 
agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4)"?


Edit | Preferences | Advanced | HTTP Networking
[ ] Advertise Firefox compatibility

Toggle this pref to "on" to restore the default with "Firefox/52.0."


Mine is already checkmarked.


Well, you did ask, "how come not its default...?" David must have it 
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 9/4/2018 10:57 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ant wrote:


On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:


Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not have this problem.


Is that your SM's UA? If so, then how come not its default "User 
agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4)"?


Edit | Preferences | Advanced | HTTP Networking
[ ] Advertise Firefox compatibility

Toggle this pref to "on" to restore the default with "Firefox/52.0."


Mine is already checkmarked.
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/2/2018 10:07 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced
to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed
in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the
search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every
computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I
haven't seen this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any
ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!

John



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not have this problem.


FYI. https://i.imgur.com/dIHofdp.gif for a screen shot/capture of this 
issue with User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4. :(

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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 
Where exactly? I just got an unofficial answer in my 
https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/d/msgid/websearch/52647935-ab18-4451-981a-c80bd11afad9%40googleproductforums.com 
forum thread. Maybe you can share your screen shot/capture too.


On 9/4/2018 10:21 PM, rjkrjk wrote:

I also left feedback on the site.dont expect much

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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

Ant wrote:


On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:


Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not have this problem.


Is that your SM's UA? If so, then how come not its default "User agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4)"?


Edit | Preferences | Advanced | HTTP Networking
[ ] Advertise Firefox compatibility

Toggle this pref to "on" to restore the default with "Firefox/52.0."

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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-04 Thread rjkrjk 

I also left feedback on the site.dont expect much

Ant wrote on 9/5/18 12:31 AM:

On 9/4/2018 9:27 PM, Ant wrote:

On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/2/2018 10:07 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced
to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed
in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the
search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every
computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I
haven't seen this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any
ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!

John



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Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not have this problem.


Is that your SM's UA? If so, then how come not its default "User agent: Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4)"?


I reported this in 
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/websearch/7ED-qV__XCc;context-place=forum/websearch. 
I don't know if that will work. Is there an official way to do it? Does anyone have official 
connections to their web site search team? ;)


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-04 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 9/4/2018 9:27 PM, Ant wrote:

On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/2/2018 10:07 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced
to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed
in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the
search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every
computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I
haven't seen this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any
ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!

John



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not have this problem.


Is that your SM's UA? If so, then how come not its default "User agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4)"?


I reported this in 
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/websearch/7ED-qV__XCc;context-place=forum/websearch. 
I don't know if that will work. Is there an official way to do it? Does 
anyone have official connections to their web site search team? ;)

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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-04 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

Me too! We need to tell Google about this issue.

On 9/3/2018 6:58 AM, Mike C wrote:

And here I thought I was the only one.
I thought it was my machine or something I did.


no...@nonospam.org wrote:
Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced 
to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed 
in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the 
search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every 
computer I tried it on.


Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. 
I haven't seen this on any other website.


Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? 
Any ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-04 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/2/2018 10:07 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced
to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed
in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the
search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every
computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I
haven't seen this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any
ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!

John



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not have this problem.


Is that your SM's UA? If so, then how come not its default "User agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4)"?

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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-04 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 9/2/2018 10:07 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced 
to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed 
in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the 
search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every 
computer I tried it on.


Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I 
haven't seen this on any other website.


Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any 
ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!


Same here. :(
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-03 Thread Mike C 

And here I thought I was the only one.
I thought it was my machine or something I did.


no...@nonospam.org wrote:
Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced 
to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed 
in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the 
search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every 
computer I tried it on.


Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I 
haven't seen this on any other website.


Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any 
ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!


John

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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-03 Thread GerardJan 

rjkrjk wrote:

plz explain how this is done,  tks


you don't need to know everything





no...@nonospam.org wrote on 9/2/18 6:00 PM:

Replying to a couple of suggestions from different responders:

Clearing my cache did not fix this.

Using the Prefbar add-on, changing my User Agent from SM to Firefox DID fix 
it. Switching 


**



back and forth between the two, it is repeatable.

Thanks for the suggestions!

John

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=3=3041415=14808162#p14808162

no...@nonospam.org wrote:
Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced to 
the top of the
search box instead of being centered, and as I typed in a search some of 
the words would
spill over to a second line in the search box. This happened only with SM, 
and it

happened on every computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I 
haven't seen

this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any 
ideas on how to

eliminate it? Thanks!

John


Google has changed a few things in the last few days.
IMO, they did initial testing a few weeks ago.
My user string does not have your problem in SM on this machine,
but the same string in FF on a different machine does what you said.
On both machines Google has eliminated the URL that bypasses their
"search help" so that now every letter I type gets sent to Google
which then suggests search words.  I hate that and their reporting home.






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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-02 Thread notme 
Go to http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/ for information on how to install 
and use Prefbar.


rjkrjk wrote:

plz explain how this is done,  tks




no...@nonospam.org wrote on 9/2/18 6:00 PM:

Replying to a couple of suggestions from different responders:

Clearing my cache did not fix this.

Using the Prefbar add-on, changing my User Agent from SM to Firefox 
DID fix it. Switching 


**



back and forth between the two, it is repeatable.

Thanks for the suggestions!

John

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=3=3041415=14808162#p14808162 



no...@nonospam.org wrote:
Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was 
displaced to the top of the
search box instead of being centered, and as I typed in a search 
some of the words would
spill over to a second line in the search box. This happened only 
with SM, and it

happened on every computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back 
again. I haven't seen

this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or 
Edge? Any ideas on how to

eliminate it? Thanks!

John


Google has changed a few things in the last few days.
IMO, they did initial testing a few weeks ago.
My user string does not have your problem in SM on this machine,
but the same string in FF on a different machine does what you said.
On both machines Google has eliminated the URL that bypasses their
"search help" so that now every letter I type gets sent to Google
which then suggests search words.  I hate that and their reporting home.






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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-02 Thread rjkrjk 

plz explain how this is done,  tks




no...@nonospam.org wrote on 9/2/18 6:00 PM:

Replying to a couple of suggestions from different responders:

Clearing my cache did not fix this.

Using the Prefbar add-on, changing my User Agent from SM to Firefox DID fix it. Switching 


**



back and forth between the two, it is repeatable.

Thanks for the suggestions!

John

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=3=3041415=14808162#p14808162

no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced to the 
top of the
search box instead of being centered, and as I typed in a search some of the 
words would
spill over to a second line in the search box. This happened only with SM, and 
it
happened on every computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I 
haven't seen
this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any ideas 
on how to
eliminate it? Thanks!

John


Google has changed a few things in the last few days.
IMO, they did initial testing a few weeks ago.
My user string does not have your problem in SM on this machine,
but the same string in FF on a different machine does what you said.
On both machines Google has eliminated the URL that bypasses their
"search help" so that now every letter I type gets sent to Google
which then suggests search words.  I hate that and their reporting home.






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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-02 Thread notme 

Replying to a couple of suggestions from different responders:

Clearing my cache did not fix this.

Using the Prefbar add-on, changing my User Agent from SM to Firefox DID 
fix it. Switching back and forth between the two, it is repeatable.


Thanks for the suggestions!

John

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=3=3041415=14808162#p14808162 



no...@nonospam.org wrote:
Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was 
displaced to the top of the
search box instead of being centered, and as I typed in a search some 
of the words would
spill over to a second line in the search box. This happened only 
with SM, and it

happened on every computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back 
again. I haven't seen

this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? 
Any ideas on how to

eliminate it? Thanks!

John


Google has changed a few things in the last few days.
IMO, they did initial testing a few weeks ago.
My user string does not have your problem in SM on this machine,
but the same string in FF on a different machine does what you said.
On both machines Google has eliminated the URL that bypasses their
"search help" so that now every letter I type gets sent to Google
which then suggests search words.  I hate that and their reporting home.




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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-02 Thread Paul in Houston, TX 

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=3=3041415=14808162#p14808162

no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced to the 
top of the
search box instead of being centered, and as I typed in a search some of the 
words would
spill over to a second line in the search box. This happened only with SM, and 
it
happened on every computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I 
haven't seen
this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any ideas 
on how to
eliminate it? Thanks!

John


Google has changed a few things in the last few days.
IMO, they did initial testing a few weeks ago.
My user string does not have your problem in SM on this machine,
but the same string in FF on a different machine does what you said.
On both machines Google has eliminated the URL that bypasses their
"search help" so that now every letter I type gets sent to Google
which then suggests search words.  I hate that and their reporting home.


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-02 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=3=3041415=14808162#p14808162

no...@nonospam.org wrote:
Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced to the 
top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed in a search 
some of the words would spill over to a second line in the search box. This 
happened only with SM, and it happened on every computer I tried it on.


Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I 
haven't seen this on any other website.


Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any ideas 
on how to eliminate it? Thanks!


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-02 Thread David E. Ross 
On 9/2/2018 10:07 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
> Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced 
> to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed 
> in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the 
> search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every 
> computer I tried it on.
> 
> Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I 
> haven't seen this on any other website.
> 
> Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any 
> ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!
> 
> John
> 

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Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
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