Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt?

2005-12-06 Thread Ken Dunn
Please, let us know how it does, Mike. Take care, On 12/5/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got a Britelyt today. Haven't been able to get it to light on BD but I think it may be due to the fuel being too cold. Will report back if I get it going. Ken Dunn wrote: What is

Re: [Biofuel] Cat question was Re: Lay low in the high grass

2005-12-06 Thread Jason and Katie
You house a coydog? All the coydogs ive met have been ill tempered untrustworthy beasts. Is it due to upbringing, or lack of that makes them so? from what i understand about animal personalities is they are similar to humans in how they react to their emotional environment. - Original Message

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
So far all attempts to light it have failed. It's 30 degrees here and that may have something to do with it. I cut the BD w/ a good shot of Dino diesel and still no go. I got the preheater going but no flame on the ring. I brought it inside overnight to warm up and will try it again. If

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-06 Thread Joe Street
No absolutely not. Researchers here at the university colaborate with others all over the world. I am no different. I'll wait till Darryl returns and take his input and advice on how to set up the registry and I'll take input from anyone else who cares to contribute ideas as well. :-) I want

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - was Re: US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-06 Thread Joe Street
Hi Keith; I just read your post after I sent my latest message on this thread. I filter your posts to a separate folder and didn't check it till after reading the regular biofuels folder. I feel the subject line of the thread is still relevant, though I understand your refereeing of the

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Joe Street
Hi Mike For what it's worth I tried running my multifuel backpacking stove on BD. I had to warm the preheater / vaporizer tube with a propane torch to get it hot enough to vaporize the BD. Once lit though it had a beautiful and stable blue flame and judging by boil time comparisons roughly

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - was Re: US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
I withdraw the notion and will not discuss it further on the Biofuels list. I apologize for any discord I've caused. If anyone has any questions feel free to email me off list, but I think Keith's position is clear and let's honor it. -Mike Weaver Joe Street wrote: Hi Keith; I just read

Re: [Biofuel] Cat question was Re: Lay low in the high grass

2005-12-06 Thread Zeke Yewdall
On the vaccination issue, I think that there are other issues that could also be causing the increase in athsma, etc. When I was little, I ate dirt, played with the dogs and cats and didn't wash my hands, ate wild berries without washing them, ate ants (I don't remember this but my parents say I

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Ken Dunn
Just selfishly thinking outloud...I wonder if it would be possible to pre-preheat it with a Sterno. On 12/6/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What was the temperature outside? I tried that with a torch and got a few sputters but no flame. Is kerosene the most logical agent to cut the

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
I tried heating the vaporizing ring with a propane torch Ken Dunn wrote: Just selfishly thinking outloud...I wonder if it would be possible to pre-preheat it with a Sterno. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

[Biofuel] 9 volt rechargeable in 20 seconds

2005-12-06 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.bairesrobotics.com.ar/elektor/10-2003%20SuperCap%20Battery.pdf9V batteries are often found in devices that aren’t used very often. If you use a NiCd rechargeable battery you may find it completely discharged by the time you need it. Capacitors on the other hand can maintain

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Joe Street
I use jellied alcohol (like sterno but runny) for pre heating my stove on the trail. It wasn't enough heat for the biodiesel though. Even with kerosene it takes a prolonged period of preheat with sterno to light the stove. If you turn the fuel valve on prematurely you get liquid coming out the

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Ken Dunn
Well that's bummer-style news there, Joe. I was hoping to use a multi-fuel stove on the trail as well as for preheating my biodiesel process. Of course, I suppose it would still be an improvement to use the stove for preheating wvo to make biodiesel even with the propane used from the torch to

[Biofuel] Dallas Area Demo

2005-12-06 Thread Tony Quinn
Anyone in the Dallas area that has a working small scale biofuel production site. I'm interested in showing some of my school kids a home engineered biofuel setup? Thanks ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

[Biofuel] Coydog was Cat question

2005-12-06 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, Yes, my coydog is my constant companion. She is the most lovable dog I have ever had, but I would not do it again. The amount of time she takes is high. She is a wild animal, and if you treat her as such, you get a very loving animal. Forget the rules for a short period of time,

[Biofuel] Marula (Scelerocarya birrea) was Jatropha Curcas

2005-12-06 Thread Duncan Mills
Hi, I had an interesting meeting this morning with someone who is extracting oil from the marula nut (Scelerocarya birrea). Have a look at www.marula.org.za for more information on this - google it and you'll find a whole lot of other really good info. Apparently you can get 10 trees/ha,

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Joe Street
Uh...outdoors?? I dunno but it was warm in my basement. :-[ J Mike Weaver wrote: What was the temperature outside? I tried that with a torch and got a few sputters but no flame. Is kerosene the most logical agent to cut the BD with? Joe Street wrote: Hi Mike For

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Joe Street
Hi Ken; It's not a matter of re-jetting as I said the fuel has to be boiling in the generator tube so that it is vapour which reaches the jet not liquid. As long as there is enough heat it works great. Given enough time a sterno flame can no doubt heat things enough but the problem is

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Zeke Yewdall
What about the type of burners that are designed to use a liquid fuel directly rather than volatilize a liquid fuel? Like fuel oil furnaces, and waste engine oil burners. All of these I have seen are in the 100,000 Btu/hr range though -- if you could find one more like 10 or 20 kBtu, it might

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
I've done some initial research but haven't delved into one. Sooner or later I'll find an oil furnace someone is throwing away and see what I can do. If I had to cut the BD with another agent to make it easier to use I would do that. Does anyone have any suggestions? Gasoline? I have 55

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
Maybe I could just throw the BD into the reactor tank and warm it up first. I do that sometimes anyway to clear cloudy BD. I would NOT count on a camping stove to light on BD the trail, unless you are in Arizona in July! Joe Street wrote: Hi Ken; It's not a matter of re-jetting as I said

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread bob allen
Howdy Mike, Mike Weaver wrote: I've done some initial research but haven't delved into one. Sooner or later I'll find an oil furnace someone is throwing away and see what I can do. If I had to cut the BD with another agent to make it easier to use I would do that. Does anyone have any

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Joe Street
I would say try kerosene or heating oil. Gasoline is too volatile and can create explosive atmospheres. Keep the IPA for titrations!! it is one of the more difficult items to get. Joe Mike Weaver wrote: I've done some initial research but haven't delved into one. Sooner or later I'll

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Joe Street
But if you do this those light molecules will eventually get jostled to the top and then hop into the air space in the container above the surface of the liquid eventually building up pressure in the closed container until it reaches the vapour pressure of the more volatile liquid (at that

[Biofuel] Bob Allen- Overvaccinating Pets Kills and Injures

2005-12-06 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
From: Sheri Nakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sheri Nakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Vaccine Info] Overvaccinating Pets Kills and Injures Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 09:21:17 +0100 If giving pets too many vaccines is injuring and killing them, why would this not be true

[Biofuel] Bob Allen- Rabies Challenge Fund!!!

2005-12-06 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
From: horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: silverpets [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SilverPets] FW: [VacCease] Rabies Challenge Fund!!! Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 08:01:03 -0400 -- From: Peter Kris Christine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL

[Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-06 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC WAS A VACCINE-CAUSED DISEASE E. McBean (Vaccination The Silent Killer p28) Very few people realize that the worst epidemic ever to hit America, the Spanish Influenza of 1918 was the after effect of the massive nation-wide vaccine campaign. .. If we

[Biofuel] Bob Allen- PET VACCINATION An Institutionalised Crime by Catherine O'Driscoll

2005-12-06 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
FYI Catherine O'Driscoll is a very well known and respected researcher in the field of animal health. http://www.whale.to/vaccine/driscoll1.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

[Biofuel] Bob Allen - Vaccination Protocol and titer hype

2005-12-06 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
cross posted from rose, moderator of blacksalveandpetswithcancer From: rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [blacksalveandpetswithcancer] Re: Vaccination Protocol and titer hype Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:44:27 -0500 crossposted Don't get fooled

[Biofuel] Bob Allen- Vaccination Protocol by Dr. Jean Dodds

2005-12-06 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
Vaccination Protocol by Dr. Jean Dodds This information has been taught by Dr. Jean Dodds for about a decade. Search the archives for vaccination, and you will find that many people have been aware of the side affects of Vaccinosis for years. Crossposted with permission.

[Biofuel] new subject line!!!

2005-12-06 Thread bob allen
cripes, what is it that folks seem to want to put my name in the subject line? please stop- it adds nothing to the conversation and makes searches in the archives difficult. as to your post, testimonials might be good for selling used cars and various and sundry nostrums, but it does little

Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen- Vaccination Protocol by Dr. Jean Dodds

2005-12-06 Thread bob allen
would you please stop putting my name in the subject line- I am not the subject. Marylynn Schmidt wrote: Vaccination Protocol by Dr. Jean Dodds This information has been taught by Dr. Jean Dodds for about a decade. Search the archives for vaccination, and you will find that many people

Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen- PET VACCINATION An Institutionalised Crime by Catherine O'Driscoll

2005-12-06 Thread bob allen
would you please stop putting my name in the subject line- I am not the subject. Marylynn Schmidt wrote: FYI Catherine O'Driscoll is a very well known and respected researcher in the field of animal health. http://www.whale.to/vaccine/driscoll1.html

[Biofuel] Bob Allen

2005-12-06 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
To answer your question about the rabies shots. Rabies shots, are required by law every three years in my state. In some states, the Vet Lobbing efforts have managed to have that law changed to every year even though the shots have been proven to last 7 years. I need to have a current

Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-06 Thread Zeke Yewdall
If vaccines are big business being forced on us for profit, then why does no one want to actually make them. Last year, less than half of the people in the US who wanted to get flu vaccines couldn't even get them, because there was only one or two companies who produced them, and one got shut

Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen- Overvaccinating Pets Kills and Injures

2005-12-06 Thread bob allen
would you please stop putting my name in the subject line- I am not the subject. Marylynn Schmidt wrote: From: Sheri Nakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sheri Nakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Vaccine Info] Overvaccinating Pets Kills and Injures Date: Fri, 06 May

Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen - Vaccination Protocol and titer hype

2005-12-06 Thread bob allen
would you please stop putting my name in the subject line- I am not the subject. Marylynn Schmidt wrote: cross posted from rose, moderator of blacksalveandpetswithcancer From: rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [blacksalveandpetswithcancer]

[Biofuel] Rabies Vaccine frequency. was: Bob Allen

2005-12-06 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Mary Quit screwing up the JTF archives by putting irrelevant subject titles on your emails. This one is about rabies vaccines, not Bob Allen. On 12/6/05, Marylynn Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To answer your question about the rabies shots. Rabies shots, are required by law every three

Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-06 Thread bob allen
would you please stop putting my name in the subject line- I am not the subject, as much as you may want it to be. Marylynn Schmidt wrote: THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC WAS A VACCINE-CAUSED DISEASE E. McBean (Vaccination The Silent Killer p28) Very few people realize that the worst epidemic

[Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-06 Thread bob allen
Marylynn Schmidt wrote: To answer your question about the rabies shots. Rabies shots, are required by law every three years in my state. In some states, the Vet Lobbing efforts have managed to have that law changed to every year even though the shots have been proven to last 7 years.

[Biofuel] Ashcroft's Legacy Revealed: US jury acquits Arab-American professor

2005-12-06 Thread Michael Redler
uot;[more]After: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051206/ts_alt_afp/usattackspalestinian_051206215259"MIAMI (AFP) - A US jury acquitted Arab-American Sami Al-Arian on terrorism charges..."[more]___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustaina

Re: [Biofuel] new subject line!!! was ... Overvaccinating Pets Kills and Injures

2005-12-06 Thread Appal Energy
Bob, as to your post, testimonials might be good for selling used cars and various and sundry nostrums, but it does little or nothing to advance your point. U, it's collective testimonials that are oft sought out in trials. If they can be accepted en masse as evidentiary, then

Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-06 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
No insurance company will insure their products. That's the big reason behind the push to pass these laws that will hold them blameless. No a bad deal. Mary Lynn Mary Lynn Schmidt ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Animal Behavior Modification . Behavior Problems . Ordained Minister . Pet Loss

Re: [Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-06 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
Yes No Limited vaccinations. Mary Lynn Mary Lynn Schmidt ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Animal Behavior Modification . Behavior Problems . Ordained Minister . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Radionics . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Herbs. . Polarity . Reiki . Spiritual Travel The Animal

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread David Miller
Mike Weaver wrote: I've done some initial research but haven't delved into one. Sooner or later I'll find an oil furnace someone is throwing away and see what I can do. If I had to cut the BD with another agent to make it easier to use I would do that. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Re: [Biofuel] new subject line!!! was ... Overvaccinating Pets Kills and Injures

2005-12-06 Thread bob allen
good evening Todd, Appal Energy wrote: Bob, as to your post, testimonials might be good for selling used cars and various and sundry nostrums, but it does little or nothing to advance your point. U, it's collective testimonials that are oft sought out in trials. If they

Re: [Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
Or just try reading a Veterinary Practice Magazine. I have two friends who are vets. Both are quite level-headed, but I do sometime browse through their professional magazines. They have stories such as Increase you billing by 40% with the PetVaxx program and Ten tests your practice should

Re: [Biofuel] Rabies Vaccine frequency. was: Bob Allen

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
Nuts. Bob Allen. And just a day or so it was all about me. Sigh. Andy Warhol was right. -Mike Zeke Yewdall wrote: Mary Quit screwing up the JTF archives by putting irrelevant subject titles on your emails. This one is about rabies vaccines, not Bob Allen. On 12/6/05, Marylynn Schmidt

Re: [Biofuel] new subject line!!! was ... Overvaccinating Pets Kills and Injures

2005-12-06 Thread Appal Energy
Salute Bob, I don't think the way court proceeding are conducted is a good analogy for how science is done. I wasn't thinking of court precedings when I made mention of testimonials. If you'll note, a great number of medical studies rely in part upon personal testament. Take aspirin for

Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
No one wants to touch them because of fears of being sued. Zeke Yewdall wrote: If vaccines are big business being forced on us for profit, then why does no one want to actually make them. Last year, less than half of the people in the US who wanted to get flu vaccines couldn't even get them,

Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-06 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Yet they are already being sued over drugs like vioxx. Are the threats of law suits any higher for vaccines than for other drugs released with insufficient testing? On 12/6/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No one wants to touch them because of fears of being sued. Zeke Yewdall wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] new subject line!!! was ... Overvaccinating Pets Kills and Injures

2005-12-06 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
This needs to be highlighted If being vaccinated protected the individual it really wouldn't matter if others were vaccinated at all .. or even sick. THAT IS WHAT BEING VACCINATED IS SUPPOSE TO BE ABOUT .. and now you're telling us that .. well .. maybe no .. maybe it's about something else.

Re: [Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
The point was that the focus of the magazine is on how to make money - not what is neccessarily the best for the patient. I said point blank the headlines were made up. They are not real stories - merely an imperfect imitation for the purpose of illustration. I'm not a vet, and don't

Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-06 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
I don't know if it's higher .. but there is Federal Funding that is being paid out to vaccine damaged and the damage generally happens while they are infants up to young children (a few in their teens but that's more unusual) while other drugs such as vioxx are taken by older people and tend

[Biofuel] Local to Global

2005-12-06 Thread JJJN
I Quote Keith Addition's reply to Mike here as I think this needs some more discussion, Keith says Sure, if you want to play the game their way. Losing game though, that's not how biofuels wins. Three rules: local, local and local. I think that statement is really key to more than Biofuels,

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
I'm only interested in using a mix in the Petromax to heat BD. I heat my house with wood anyway. I don't plan to mix gasoline with BD or HHO and use it inside - besides my furnace is gas, not that I run it if I can help it. I would like to take apart a Beckett or Riello or similar to see how

Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
From what I've read the risk to profit ratio is is so low that big pharma is not interested. Vaccines apparently aren't very profitable. http://www.altcorp.com/DentalInformation/vaccinelawsuits.htm Quote towards the end.

Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
But the flu also struck in many other parts of the world that didn't get vaccines. Marylynn Schmidt wrote: THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC WAS A VACCINE-CAUSED DISEASE E. McBean (Vaccination The Silent Killer p28) Very few people realize that the worst epidemic ever to hit America, the

Re: [Biofuel] Local to Global

2005-12-06 Thread tanuki
I agree with being local. That is the way to change things. One little block at a time. Of course, how big your local is, is dependent on how extensive your resources are. Here in the Philippines, I am up against two or three big giants trying to push biofuels in a big way but unfortunately,