Re: [Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Re: pump mixing,...]

2005-01-08 Thread Appal Energy
mal (as in very close to zero) volume in the mixing vessel. Just some thoughts that I hope encourage research, I love good research, wish I had time to do more! Kenneth Appal Energy wrote: John, but I still maintain that your pumps will be as good as impellers. Both are attached to motors, an

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Re: pump mixing,...]

2005-01-07 Thread Appal Energy
but I still maintain that your pumps will be as good as impellers. Both are attached to motors, and transfer the energy into fluid motion. I reckon anyone can maintain what they wish. But props and pump-impellers aren't quite the same thing. A prop provides lift/thrust while at the same ti

Re: pump mixing, was: [Biofuel] more on the quality test

2005-01-04 Thread Appal Energy
I'm not saying that pump mixing is a "bad idea." I am saying that there are more efficient and thorough ways to mix. The clear water pump that so many are opting to use might be okay for a five or ten gallon volume, but not much bigger. Perhaps it might work on larger volumes if it were insta

Re: [Biofuel] more on the quality test

2005-01-03 Thread Appal Energy
wash it can mean a difference between a clean separation in 30 seconds or less and a slightly milky but thin layer that appears to be "complete" separation . Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "John Guttridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: [Biofuel] Anyone know anything about this on ebay?

2005-01-01 Thread Appal Energy
at their own game. Not that it would take much, but this character seems to have used his head for more than a hat rack. Nice application of semi-el-cheapo stainless steel drums. You can certainly throw a band heater on, or a hot water element in, that puppy. Possibility for easy containme

Re: [Biofuel] more on the quality test

2005-01-01 Thread Appal Energy
ngen - Original Message - From: "John Guttridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] more on the quality test Appal Energy wrote: If you've got triglycerides remaining you'll als

Re: [Biofuel] New Car

2004-12-31 Thread Appal Energy
While a little bit of sweat won't melt me, the heat we get will cause heart attacks and other problems. "HellIt's not the heat. It's the humidity." Ever noticed how in decades past the south was notorious for slowing down in summers. They just took it in stride. Naps here. Breaks there.

Re: [Biofuel] New Car

2004-12-30 Thread Appal Energy
I understand that Texas is not optional. If it were, we wouldn't have had a president from there the past four years, or the next four, as it probably would have been ceded back to Mexico decades ago. Probably a felony charge if anyone were to propose giving it back now, what with the way Boz

Re: [Biofuel] Made in China?

2004-12-30 Thread Appal Energy
The Chinese are clever people. (There are, in fact, clever people all over the world.) Why would they seek the demise of their largest market? "Demise" would probably not be an adequate context. "Subserviant," "dependant" or "beholding" might better fit. Todd Swearingen - Original M

Re: [Biofuel] New Car

2004-12-30 Thread Appal Energy
Any authorized VW repair island can fix an '86 Dub just as well as a mechanic specializing in diesel Dubs 1,000 miles distant from your home. While the rules of rebuild warranty are a bit different from factory warranties, that doesn't mean that repairs ("if" needed) can't be accomplished at

Re: [Biofuel] more on the quality test

2004-12-30 Thread Appal Energy
Interesting as to the precipitate you achieved. You might wish to dry it and test its properties. A safe bet is that it's a flocculent of multiple constituents, as non-water soluble calcium soaps by themselves have specific gravities less than water and would float in water rather than settle

Re: [Biofuel] New Car

2004-12-30 Thread Appal Energy
Sounds as if you're dead set on getting this car. If you want to reconsider before Friday, I know a jolly good VW diesel mechanic who's second favorite love is putting rebuilt Dubs back on the road. He's presently working on exchanging a sodden gas block with a turbo diesel in his fiance's J

Re: [Biofuel] more on the quality test

2004-12-29 Thread Appal Energy
y want to understand what I am doing here so that I can be a shining example of the products of the homebrew community and all it has to offer and not be an example of what can go wrong with homebrewing (this seems to be important for furthering the cause in general which is important to me).

Re: [Biofuel] Bush Left in the Cold by Climate Allies

2004-12-29 Thread Appal Energy
This breached an assurance given by President Bush in 2001, when he pulled out of the protocol, that America would not try to stop other countries reaching agreement. Am I to believe that George W. Bush would flip-flop on and/or mislead the international community? "Say it ain't so!" Surely

Re: [Biofuel] more on the quality test

2004-12-29 Thread Appal Energy
You prepared a 4 liter batch from which you pulled both wash samples. Yes? Your only variable was temperature of the wash water. Yes? You point out that the warmer sample separated well and the colder one not. Yes? So why did you "dispose" of the cooler sample prior to letting your experim

Re: [Biofuel] cold climate biodiesel production

2004-12-29 Thread Appal Energy
arage in 20deg temps thanks Mike - Original Message - From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] cold climate biodiesel production Mike, That's as normal as the sun rising i

Re: [Biofuel] cold climate biodiesel production

2004-12-29 Thread Appal Energy
That's as normal as the sun rising in the east. Expect to start having gel/solidification problems at around 40*F with WVO esters. The problem isn't that the oil is used, but that animal fats are generally present in WVO. Also, much WVO is partially hydrogenated (looks like veg shortening pr

Re: [Biofuel] New Car

2004-12-29 Thread Appal Energy
I don't believe VW offers the TDI in a GL 2-door package. You'll have to go 4-door. Diesel option runs ~$1,400. Also, there is no diesel option other than turbo, unlike years past where turbo/non-turbo was an option. Comes with a cat. You might want to ask about specific diesel fuel requi

Re: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems

2004-12-29 Thread Appal Energy
e mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems Hi Todd ; Love your sense of humor! Best Regards, Peter G. Thailand --- Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Okay, Now that we've had the sermon on the mount, circa 2004, the question still remains. If you're born again

Re: [Biofuel] god problems (see, got rid of titration)

2004-12-29 Thread Appal Energy
Indeed! If we hadn't mortgaged the future of our children on warfare, what kind of goodwill could we be spreading in South Asia right now? Secured a warfare state in lieu of any threat of a welfare state - discounting corporate welfare, of course. Flawed thinking though, sending them off t

Re: [Biofuel] Sermon on the mount from the UB

2004-12-28 Thread Appal Energy
It's one thing to look at or analyze the calling of environmental/social/spiritual stewardship from any religion's written dogma, using one's own brain and conviction of heart/spirit. It's all together another to cut and paste lengthy pages from an Understanding the Bible (UB) course syllabu

Re: Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems

2004-12-28 Thread Appal Energy
coejl.html http://environment.harvard.edu/religion/religion/buddhism/projects/earth_sangha.html http://environment.harvard.edu/religion/religion/confucianism/index.html http://environment.harvard.edu/religion/religion/indigenous/index.html --- Legal Eagle :-) :-) Luc - Original Message ---

Re: [Biofuel] was Titration problems

2004-12-28 Thread Appal Energy
It is actually not in the NT but the Old, Isaiah 64:6 and is primarily in reference to our own SELF righteousness as being like "filthy rags" which reference is politically correct for what women use monthly. Filthy rags were abundant from all genders and social sectors of the day, as Mayta

Re: [Biofuel] quality test

2004-12-28 Thread Appal Energy
You might ask yourself where you gained the extra 25 ml in the water layer. Impossible that the gain would be from excess methanol, as there can't be that much in a 150 ml sample. Impossible that the gain would be from soap washed out of the fuel, as you let it set overnight and all but tra

Sermon on the mount...Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems

2004-12-28 Thread Appal Energy
Now that we've had the sermon on the mount, circa 2004, the question still remains. If you're born again, do you have two belly buttons? Todd Swearingen "Born okay the first time." - Original Message - From: "Tim Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday

Re: [Biofuel] More hybrid technology news

2004-12-28 Thread Appal Energy
The US EPA fuel economy rating for the vehicle (with 5-speed automatic transmission) is 29 mpg (8.11 l/100 km) in the city and 37 mpg (6.35 l/100 km) on the highway. The Accord Hybrid has a manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP) of $29,990. A person can rebuild/restore a near death

Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems

2004-12-27 Thread Appal Energy
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems going to church doesn't make a person a Christian, accepting the lord as your savior and living the way he taught us to does. Going to church merely is one way to worship him with others who

Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems

2004-12-27 Thread Appal Energy
Humans. God love 'em. 'Cause that's about all who can. Todd Swearingen Religion - What keeps the poor from killing the rich. - Original Message - From: "robert luis rabello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 200

Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems

2004-12-26 Thread Appal Energy
If going to church makes a person a Christian, does going to a garage make a person a car? - Original Message - From: "Daniel Breen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Titration problems hey legal eagle,

Re: [Biofuel] "Harmonization" of the patent system

2004-12-23 Thread Appal Energy
wondering if there are more legal aspects (direct legislation) that limits the rights of individuals. Do you have any information in that regard? Thanks, Mike Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael, You didn't explain what "harmonization" would entail that woul

[Biofuel] Time Magazine: Rewarding Incompentence

2004-12-22 Thread Appal Energy
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Re: [Biofuel] "Harmonization" of the patent system

2004-12-22 Thread Appal Energy
You didn't explain what "harmonization" would entail that would curb the rights of inventors. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Michael Redler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] "Harmonization" of

Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2

2004-12-21 Thread Appal Energy
Thanks Buck. - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2 Buck Please take no notice of this person's sneers, and please accept my apologies for this

Re: [Biofuel] I need filters

2004-12-21 Thread Appal Energy
Final filtration prior to tank filling can be done with a bulk fuel filter, the type found on farm and construction fuel oil tanks. They're available in ten micron and look like an oil filter. Available at most NAPA outlets in the US. Filter comes separate from the filter mount. The same ca

Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal (Tomas Juknevicius's question)

2004-12-21 Thread Appal Energy
TECTED]> wrote: Wow! I am really surprised at that. ...very interesting! "[Further testing of wood ash across the U.S. suggests] that fallout in wood ash 'is a major source of radioactivity released into the environment..." Thank you for the enlightenment. Mike Appal Energy &l

Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal (Tomas Juknevicius's question)

2004-12-21 Thread Appal Energy
I have no idea. But, I would be surprised. I wouldn't. http://ishgooda.org/nuclear/nuke1.htm - Original Message - From: "Michael Redler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 6:58 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal (Tomas Juknev

Happy Humbug was Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Donation Info

2004-12-21 Thread Appal Energy
restful about going out in the dark and checking up on and caring for the animals. Reckon that's why they call it "husbandry." Happy Humbug to all and to all a good night. :-) - Original Message - From: "Gustl Steiner-Zehender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-20 Thread Appal Energy
hat answers are not what you're primary interest is. Good day. - Original Message - From: "John Guttridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test todd, A

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-19 Thread Appal Energy
ining the process of learning. also I have observed that keith frequently expresses frustration that things get gone over again and again, lets make the instructions more specific to avoid this. Appal Energy wrote: John, I still think that temperature has a drastic effect on seperation time

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-19 Thread Appal Energy
are important but are not mentioned such that they can be controlled. John Appal Energy wrote: John Guttridge, If you're looking for reproducability, you need to follow baseline, not modify a test/experiment so as to suit your own preference or conditions. You've apparently neglected

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-18 Thread Appal Energy
what I was trying to suggest here is that there are some factors that drastically affect the results that aren't even mentioned such that they can be controlled. John Appal Energy wrote: John, It is reproducable if you use larger volumes than the 8 ml total volume that you're

Re: [Biofuel] test batches and the JtF quality test

2004-12-17 Thread Appal Energy
It is reproducable if you use larger volumes than the 8 ml total volume that you're using. A couple of fluid ounces would be more appropriate. The method suggests ~150 ml, or approximately five fluid ounces. If you're not getting anything resembling a clean separation for 25 minutes using 7

Re: [Biofuel] it looks like soapy milk facts

2004-12-17 Thread Appal Energy
more interaction between fluids than is necessary. For a first wash all that needs to be accomplished is to stir the contents to the point of appearing homogenous. That can be done with a broken canoe paddle and about 100 revs. Pumps can churn the contents to butter, especially if left run len

Re: [Biofuel] It looks like soapy milk!!

2004-12-17 Thread Appal Energy
out of the fuel portion and the extra soap aided in creating an emulsion. 2) You didn't get a complete reaction and the incompletely reacted mono- and di-glycerides lent in creating an emulsion. 3) You had a combination of #s 1 and 2. Let settle. If time and gravity don't break the emulsion,

Re: [Biofuel] More winterizing questions

2004-12-16 Thread Appal Energy
- Original Message - From: "Eric & Wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:00 AM Subject: [Biofuel] More winterizing questions Do you think putting plastic over the windows in ones home helps to keep the heat in during the winter? We

Re: [Biofuel] To Todd, was Hyping Terror For Fun, Profit - And Power

2004-12-11 Thread Appal Energy
there isn't a battle. Converse, defuse, listen. That's not the same as acquiecence, eh? It's conflict resolution. Gary may not be in his right mind, perhaps I'm not either. But I don't get your pumped response. Jesse From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [Biofuel] Hyping Terror For Fun, Profit - And Power

2004-12-10 Thread Appal Energy
y now -- 1919 The Brass Check A Study of American Journalism By Upton Sinclair Who owns the press, and why? When you read your daily paper, are you reading facts, or propaganda? And whose propaganda? Who furnishes the raw material for your thoughts about life? Is it honest material? No man c

Re: [Biofuel] Hyping Terror For Fun, Profit - And Power

2004-12-10 Thread Appal Energy
gr - Original Message - From: "Legal Eagle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Hyping Terror For Fun, Profit - And Power G'day Todd; - Original Message - From: "Appal Ene

Re: [Biofuel] Hyping Terror For Fun, Profit - And Power

2004-12-09 Thread Appal Energy
undetectable weapons existed" Why is it that each and every time I hear this kind of stupiity (espoused eternal by Rumsfeld and Cheney), that I almost pray for a nuclear attack with two warheads targeted at each of their pointed little heads? Damned near anything would be better than to keep

Re: [Biofuel] washing water

2004-11-30 Thread Appal Energy
Direct release into a stream is ill advised, no matter what it is that you're processing. Better for you to apply it as gray water irrigation upsight from any drainage and let the soils filter it further, all the while getting some utility out of both the large volume of water and any contam

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel for nought ...?

2004-11-27 Thread Appal Energy
[Biofuel] Fuel for nought ...? hi hi George monbiot is a highly respected environmentalist and I don't think a rant like this is particularly constructive. Doesn't do the list much good really. More reason less aggression, you did make relevant comments in there somewhere. cheers Greg

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel for nought ...?

2004-11-25 Thread Appal Energy
Would you propose that a person, or persons who populate a planet, do nothing? Much as the "author" does? The problem doesn't lay with the feedstock(s), but with the human "livestock" (or "deadstock," depending upon how you perceive the mental incapacities of humans). Think about this for

Re: [Biofuel] the next president of the Nation Devided.

2004-11-19 Thread Appal Energy
Methodist push in the early 1990's and writings from those such as Thomas Berry in the Catholic sector. But overall, don't expect any miracles of divine revelation coming out of the vestibules anymore than out of the white house. Unfortunately for everyone, the vast majority of the masses in

Re: [Biofuel] best processor for campus co-op?

2004-11-18 Thread Appal Energy
? ROFFLMAO! Three times over...!! Thanks for the chuckle. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] best processor for campus co-op? hey guys dont b

Re: [Biofuel] best processor for campus co-op?

2004-11-18 Thread Appal Energy
what processor would be the best to work on. Most processors are nothing special. You'll want to choose either mechanical or pump agitation. The system should be closed to prevent methanol vapor release. All motors should be at minimum TEFC. No open flames in the vicinity, such as natural g

Re: [Biofuel] washing water

2004-11-13 Thread Appal Energy
dissolved soaps exchanges with the magnesium ion from the salt (magnesium sulfate). The soaps come out of solution as a grease, which can be skimmed off prior to release. The chemical product that is released becomes potassium or sodium sulfate. The potassium is far more usable by the soil th

Re: [Biofuel] washing water

2004-11-12 Thread Appal Energy
help?? A) Recover your alcohol from the biodiesel prior to wash. Accomplished through evaporation/distillation. B) Recover your soap fraction from the gray water. Accomplished by treating the waste water with magnesium or aluminum sulfate. C) Reduce the concentration of gray wter per square

Re: Bible, Koran & Torah Thumping, not to mention other general sheeple tricks was Re: [Biofuel] about God

2004-11-12 Thread Appal Energy
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Re: Bible, Koran & Torah Thumping, not to mention other general sheeple tricks was Re: [Biofuel] about God

2004-11-12 Thread Appal Energy
ple in the other direction. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "robert luis rabello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:46 PM Subject: Re: Bible, Koran & Torah Thumping,not to mention other general she

Re: Bible, Koran & Torah Thumping, not to mention other general sheeple tricks was Re: [Biofuel] aboutGod

2004-11-11 Thread Appal Energy
27;m just GLAD you are in the cult of Permaculture and Renewable energy. So with all that I am going to try and bring the focus back to BioDiesel. mel -Original Message- From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 12:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: Bible, Koran & Torah Thumping, not to mention other general sheeple tricks was Re: [Biofuel] about God

2004-11-11 Thread Appal Energy
sday, November 11, 2004 11:36 AM Subject: Re: Bible, Koran & Torah Thumping,not to mention other general sheeple tricks was Re: [Biofuel] about God Appal Energy wrote: Cobb County Georgia School Board puts stickers on their biology books stating that evolution is only a theory, all at the behest

Re: Bible, Koran & Torah Thumping, not to mention other general sheeple tricks was Re: [Biofuel] aboutGod

2004-11-11 Thread Appal Energy
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Re: Bible, Koran & Torah Thumping, not to mention other general sheeple tricks was Re: [Biofuel] aboutGod

2004-11-11 Thread Appal Energy
rue? Especially a religious document? What counts is does it give you will to power that leads to action. Of course a total rejection of all things religious based on "proof" can never be proved. What came first? Chicken, egg or rooster? Man, god or the mind of god? mel -Original

Re: Bible, Koran & Torah Thumping, not to mention other general sheeple tricks was Re: [Biofuel] aboutGod

2004-11-11 Thread Appal Energy
he achievement of the following personal transformations and planetary adjustments: The Urantia book EXPLICITLY tells us we evolved, give us the timelines and debunks much of the ahem... Mythology of the Judeo-Christian dogma mel -Original Message- From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

Bible, Koran & Torah Thumping, not to mention other general sheeple tricks was Re: [Biofuel] about God

2004-11-10 Thread Appal Energy
Cobb County Georgia School Board puts stickers on their biology books stating that evolution is only a theory, all at the behest of a few screaming meamies, and two thousand petition signers. They're rationale? God is real but evolution is unproven. Well now..., one must ask the question: I

Re: [Biofuel] Bush stands by rejection of limits on gases blamed for global warming

2004-11-10 Thread Appal Energy
Bush is perfectly willing to sacrice tens of thousands of civilian lives, thousands of military lives, leave untolds tens of thousand permanently maimed and disabled, and tens of millions mentally disfigured for the rest of their human duration - all all under the false pretense of national

Re: [Biofuel] Does anyone here use FuelMeister equipment?

2004-11-07 Thread Appal Energy
For that kind of money you can build ten times the system - an actual honest to goodness "complete" system, rather than an overpriced peanut jar with a toothbrush motor attached. It's a waste of money and doesn't do as fit a job as is represented. Besides it being half-baked, it's not the p

Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years

2004-11-05 Thread Appal Energy
That's not the same as mindless,party-line drivel. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Legal Eagle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:55 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years So much drivel from so few words, amazing. This guy

Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years

2004-11-05 Thread Appal Energy
ay, November 04, 2004 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years I feel what you are saying and in many ways I agree. However, I ask you this. What is your solution to this issue? I'm all ears. Jonathan Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Unity? Hah!!! That was Shrub's

Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years

2004-11-05 Thread Appal Energy
That was Shrub's empty promise four years ago. The man will say whatever it takes to get what he wants and then move on - the quintesential flip-flopper and not one to be trusted or left unwatched. I believe the mantra for the next four years of turmoil, arrogance and oppression exerted by

Re: off topic flame: Re: [Biofuel] 38 short hours to go

2004-11-04 Thread Appal Energy
Unfortunately, while he is hanging himself, he will destroy the lives of those of us that have to live with his policies. How will Mother Earth ever recover from 4 more years of increasing abuse? Let's not forget Mr. Bush's faith in the "entrepeneurial spirit of the American people." It'

Re: off topic flame: Re: [Biofuel] 38 short hours to go

2004-11-02 Thread Appal Energy
Not wise to be unaware of what types of persons one associates/mingles with. Anyone who can make such a statement of flasehood shoud be paid closer attention to, if only for self-preservation's sake. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "DHAJOGLO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[E

Re: [Biofuel] C.Difficile Epidemic in Quebec

2004-10-29 Thread Appal Energy
tists are legitimately concerned that advocacy may undermine the public perception that scientists are relatively apolitical and concerned primarily with facts. But what use is a voice that is held in high esteem but never raised? So, at the end of the day, who you want to believe is up to yo

Re: [Biofuel] C.Difficile Epidemic in Quebec

2004-10-29 Thread Appal Energy
PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] C.Difficile Epidemic in Quebec Appal Energy wrote: So what you are saying John, and I'll let Bob speak for himself, is that you are absolutely sure and willing to guarantee beyond all shadow of doubt to anyone and

Re: [Biofuel] C.Difficile Epidemic in Quebec

2004-10-29 Thread Appal Energy
these truths are applicable and how frequently the public is mis-lead to its detriment. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "bob allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] C.Difficile Ep

Re: [Biofuel] C.Difficile Epidemic in Quebec

2004-10-29 Thread Appal Energy
02. http://www.food.gov.uk/multimedia/pdfs/aspartameopinion.pdf Butchko HH et al. Aspartame: Review of safety. Regul Toxicol Pharmacol. 2002;35:S1-S93. Appal Energy wrote: Bob, I'm at a bit of a loss with this one. Don't suppose you would care to qualify your opinion with somethi

Re: [Biofuel] C.Difficile Epidemic in Quebec

2004-10-29 Thread Appal Energy
I'm at a bit of a loss with this one. Don't suppose you would care to qualify your opinion with something more than "quack, quack" would you? As I recall the last time I visited the aspartame issue (researched it for several weeks, up one side and down the other) the problems and concerns we

Re: [Biofuel] First time with a question

2004-10-27 Thread Appal Energy
to regulate, or attempt to regulate, the home processing, or refining, of biodiesel (b100)? Answer: It's a crap shoot. For now the home brew sector is being used as a promotional/free-advertising resource by the emerging industry and regulatory members who are pro-biodiesel. In the US it w

Re: [Biofuel] second batch results

2004-10-27 Thread Appal Energy
affect the washability. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "John Guttridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:13 PM Subject: [Biofuel] second batch results is it okay if my biodiesel is cloudy before I wash it? I was expecting i

Re: [Biofuel] US Foreign aid

2004-10-27 Thread Appal Energy
If you want to increase your margins, you might want to start consider reducing the cost of fuel inputs per bushel by opting for biodiesel from WVO. Co-oping with neighboring farmers to put a small system into production would benefit several and help defray initial expense. As for your com

[Biofuel] New Florida Voting Machines

2004-10-26 Thread Appal Energy
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Re: [Biofuel] Conversation with a Conservative -was: Kerry & left

2004-10-25 Thread Appal Energy
Jeff, you certainly don't have much problem hopping, skipping and jumping all over the place. You might want to make sure that there's a stone to jump to in front of each foot before you leap though. You ask a question: Just what has Bush done to harm the enviroment?< and without even think

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry-Marshall Plan

2004-10-23 Thread Appal Energy
kin. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Doug Younker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry-Marshall Plan Hi, After reading of operation keelhaul, I now longer can use the phrase "

Re: [Biofuel] what are the on about?

2004-10-23 Thread Appal Energy
it to a landfill? (not talking about enviro impact now) From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] what are the on about? Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 10:35:19 -0400 Pyrolysis is not limitted to a single feedsto

Re: [Biofuel] what are the on about?

2004-10-23 Thread Appal Energy
making biodiesel via esterification/transesterification. You can use it to degrade tires, plastic, organic wastes and biomass in general into useable gases and liquid fuels. The tough pill to swallow is the intense energy inputs and mechanical costs. But then again, recovering energy and reu

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry

2004-10-23 Thread Appal Energy
people want the walls and division, it makes them feel special.To touch lightly on politics, people like Jessie Jackson appears to like building walls, were as Marten L. King wanted to tear them down. Greg H. - Original Message - From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry

2004-10-22 Thread Appal Energy
nk that any sane person would want that job ( any more ), just for the sake of making the US ( or the world for that matter ) a better place, they want it for the power/glory.In most cases, too many things would have to be compromised, to get anything done. Would I like to have more ethica

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry

2004-10-22 Thread Appal Energy
:-) That's what is worrisome every time such broad assertions are made. Perhaps you and everyone else can see why even the presentation of the shoddiest shred of fabric supporting such pandemonial beliefs lends well to getting to the truth of those matters that we all cling to in one way or

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry

2004-10-22 Thread Appal Energy
e. That is what the delete button is for.A little touchy aren't we? So sorry. I shall refrain from injuring any further. Luc - Original Message - From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 11:05 PM Subject:

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry

2004-10-22 Thread Appal Energy
much space. Good thing the US media covered none of this huh? Luc - Original Message - From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry Hmmm, this is interesting. In

Re: [Biofuel] Is this the US politics list or the biofuels list?

2004-10-22 Thread Appal Energy
There are more than two spokes to a wheel. Biofuel is no more the be all and end all to life's persistant problems than government is. If you want to better illuminate something, burn the candle from both ends. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Peggy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry

2004-10-22 Thread Appal Energy
Intelligence cutbacks to "virtually nonexistant?" I guess that also explains why all the WMDs turned out to be non-existant..., because the "darned good intelligence" that George W. Bush said he gets, was actually "virtually nonexistant" (according to Greg Harbican) because funding for intel ha

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry

2004-10-21 Thread Appal Energy
Wake up for a change to the number of ways you keep copping out. You make claims and then don't substantiate them. You claim one-sidedness but don't offer anything, much less anything credible to the side you claim is under represented. Face it. You implicate, instigate and leave a trail of

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry

2004-10-21 Thread Appal Energy
President Carter.) You know, for a guy that doesn't have enough time to address what he stirs up, you sure do like to keep that ladle moving. Please, would you do everyone a very big service and point to the half-truths (plural) and misinformation that you are eluding to? And when you've ad

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry

2004-10-21 Thread Appal Energy
What I did notice was an all encompassing blanket statement, which generally places its propigator in an untenable position straight out of the chute. To your credit you acknowledge that somewhat. Don't watch tele here. So I can't say one way or another what would be considered healthy chil

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry

2004-10-21 Thread Appal Energy
When you say Of course they believe whatever their parents do at that age. you corroborate that the majority of parents of those children are supposedly going to vote for John Kerry. That was, after all, the point of the poll - that children are perhaps a reasonably accurate barometer of

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel Process Agitation Question.

2004-10-21 Thread Appal Energy
There a good idea if they're being offered at a reasonable price, can mate them to something readily available or semi-inexpensive and have a use for all of them within a reasonable future frame of time. Is the central shaft 3/4" to 1" in diameter? If so, a coupler can be easily found. You'

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel USA goberment set standars

2004-10-20 Thread Appal Energy
The US standard for biodiesel is ASTM D-6751. You can find it on this page http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield2.html or Google for it elsewhere. Each test within D-6751 is specifically drawn out under other ASTM standards..., all a bit like pealing an onion. Todd Swearingen - Or

Re: [Biofuel] U.N.: Indoor Pollution Kills 1.6M Per Year

2004-10-19 Thread Appal Energy
Z And? You're trying to say..., what? That it's okay that thousands die from one malady simply because another malady kills thousands more? Correct me if I'm wrong, but by this type of logic/justification/rationalization, or whatever anyone cares to call it, there should be nothing

[Biofuel] 2004 Florida Prezadenchul Ballot

2004-10-15 Thread Appal Energy
Florida's Secretary of State is beta-testing the online ballot for this year's election. The State of Florida is asking for volunteers to test the system to be sure it works right. To take part in this pre-election experiment (and roll on the floor laughing, maybe crying), go to... http://wea

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