On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 09:52:47PM -0600, MH wrote:
> "The danger to wetlands would come from dryness as well as heat.
> W. Carter Johnson, professor of ecology at South Dakota State University,
> found that if temperatures increase 3.6¡F to 7¡F, precipitation
> would have to increase 10 to 25
Richard-
>>It looks like everyone is debating a self correcting problem, at least
>>on the fuel/oil use. If we don't want to use the oil products, they
>>are going to run out of them sooner or later-- use them faster.
>>If the green house deal comes about, it will likely kill most the
>>populati
> It looks like everyone is debating a self correcting problem, at least
> on the fuel/oil use. If we don't want to use the oil products, they
> are going to run out of them sooner or later-- use them faster.
> If the green house deal comes about, it will likely kill most the
> population off--
Keith Addison wrote:
>Richard Morgan wrote:
>
>>It looks like everyone is debating a self correcting problem, at least
>>on the fuel/oil use. If we don't want to use the oil products, they
>>are going to run out of them sooner or later-- use them faster.
>>If the green house deal comes about,
eing crucified and all they know is they feel pain. Clueless
by and large.
End of rant
Kirk
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From: Richard Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Rawls Moore" <>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 18:09
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens, pitting
conservationist
Richard Morgan wrote:
>It looks like everyone is debating a self correcting problem, at least
>on the fuel/oil use. If we don't want to use the oil products, they
>are going to run out of them sooner or later-- use them faster.
>If the green house deal comes about, it will likely kill most the
It looks like everyone is debating a self correcting problem, at least
on the fuel/oil use. If we don't want to use the oil products, they
are going to run out of them sooner or later-- use them faster.
If the green house deal comes about, it will likely kill most the
population off-- less pe
license for cars./ trucks over 5,000lbs, sort of like a cloas a license?
> > MOSTLY joking)
> > anton
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: studio53 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:14 PM
> > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> >
> I have a better idea, while not everyone needs a small car, many people need
> a larger car / truck / SUV, so why don't we just outlaw all smaller cars, as
> being to unsafe to be on the road with larger vehicals, that are needed.
What's these vehicles weigh ? lets say:
Veehickal
rsday, March 14, 2002 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting
conservationists against soccer moms
how about a class action suit against people who want to
further limit the rights of people who want to do as
they please. isn't the government doing
Hi Alan
>Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >
> > Levin noted that the scientists refused to recommend a specific fuel
> > economy standard and acknowledged that past increases in fuel economy
> > led to smaller, lighter cars and thousands of additional traffic
> > deaths.
>
>I ch
Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:14 PM
> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting
> conservationists against soccer moms
>
>
> Wait a minute! I thought that most accidents were alcohol induced according
> to Nation
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Fine by me.
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Fine by me.
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From: "Anton Berteaux" <>
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 16:25
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> and requiring all citizens to carry guns, so that noone is
conservationists against soccer moms
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From: "Anton Berteaux" <>
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Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 15:05
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> How about a class action laws
that was tried in the 1930`s
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Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:13 PM
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> Wait a minute! I thought
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From: "Anton Berteaux" <>
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> How about a class action lawsuit against all the suv's driv
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Wait a minute! I thought that most accidents were alcohol induced according
to National statistics. Let&#
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From: "Alan S. Petrillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "biofuel"
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 1:11 PM
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> Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
>
> Levin noted that the scientists refused to recommend a specific fuel
> economy standard and acknowledged that past increases in fuel economy
> led to smaller, lighter cars and thousands of additional traffic
> deaths.
I challenge him to prove
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> From: Greg and April [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:21 AM
> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
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From: "Rawls Moore" <>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 18:09
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> I am sorry to hear about the poor bus system Greg. I live in Portlan
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From: "Richard Morgan" <
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> It seems to me if a person wanted to cut fuel use all they would have to
&g
It seems to me if a person wanted to cut fuel use all they would have to
do is change the system of public transport. Instead of charging a set
amount for city busses, charge a nickel between numbered mile stops. A
person is more likely to run for bread in a bus for ten cents than get
clippe
http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2002/03/03132002/ap_46655.asp
- 3/13/2002 - ENN.com
Debate on fuel economy standards opens, pitting conservationists
against soccer moms
Wednesday, March 13, 2002
By H. Josef Hebert, Associated Press
WASHINGTON - One side sees improved auto fuel economy as key
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