thanx... did he post it here on this list?
--- In biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com, goat industries [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've just been told that it works well. If you read the Canecki
report about
a week ago that Keith re-posted you will see that they thought
that water
inhibited the
thanx... did he post it here on this list?
Of course, or he would have said so, wouldn't he? Check the archives,
that's what it's for after all.
http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=1952list=BIOFUELS-BIZ
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 00:21:00 +0900
To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
From: Keith
David, I'm not convinced that the 'the mixture of FFAs and glycerol that
combine in our 'by-product'.' that you mention does actually contain FFA. I
recently aquired a sample of 95% pure oleic acid and found that it was
completely soluble in biodiesel. Also, other FFA's will be solids which
would
BIODIESEL BULLETIN
A Monthly Newsletter of the
National Biodiesel Board
January 2, 2003
HEADLINES:
ARLINGTON COUNTY VEHICLES SWITCH TO BIODIESEL
STUDY FINDS ILLINOIS TAX INCENTIVE WOULD HAVE POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT
WASHINGTON UPDATE
BIODIESEL FACILITY BEGINS PRODUCTION IN RALSTON, IOWA
SPECIAL
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/dowjones/20030103/bs_dowjones/200301031651000359
Nothing special in this article, just linking it for the
price-reference. It is interesting to see Venezuela exacerbating the
situation (as though a gulf war wouldn't already drive prices up
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To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 9:44 PM
Subject: [biofuels-biz] oil @ $33 per barrel
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/dowjones/20030103/
bs_dowjones/200301031651000359
Nothing special in this article
-biz] oil @ $33 per barrel
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/dowjones/20030103/
bs_dowjones/200301031651000359
Nothing special in this article, just linking it for the
price-reference. It is interesting to see Venezuela
exacerbating the
situation (as though a gulf war wouldn't
]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 9:44 PM
Subject: [biofuels-biz] oil @ $33 per barrel
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/dowjones/20030103
/
bs_dowjones/200301031651000359
Nothing special
Have a struggling economy and a president who hopes to blue
blazes consumers go out and buy, buy, buy? Not on your life if
the cost of goods start going up as a result of increase fuel
costs. Which equals another tailspin on consumer purchases.
I used to have a rule in going clothing shopping to
Interesting days, these...
NEW DELHI: The Government is mulling investment of over Rs 17,500 crore to
undertake a comprehensive programme for extracting oil from Jatropha
plantations for blending with diesel. [1]
I am also told that the Indian Railways intends to use a 10% mix of Jatropha
oil
I feel the same way about this social pressure.Almost as if it's (the
pressure) being used as (quite an effective) substitute for the secret
police used to keep the dissenters quiet. Who needs the secret police
... when Aunt Meg, Uncle Fred and Cousin Jim will just as effectively do the
job
Yeah, but without energy centralization, how else are they (corporate) going
to create the desired enviroment of I've got it ALL ... you're a
heroin-addict that desperately needs it ... now let's discuss the price??
Curtis
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To try and_make_ everybody like them?? NOT!! It's called spreading
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RIGHT. Didn't you know that??
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- Original Message -
From: Alan S.
murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
The concept of grid-chargeable hybrids isn't mentioned but I think it is
on the minds of many activists. Once a hybrid owner has the chance to
drive on Electricity alone, he or she might well be interested in a pure
EV. At the least it allows
Keith Addison wrote:
Anyway, hadn't you guys over there better start thinking about taking
your country back? Please???
Regards
Keith
We'd love to, but by the time we actually GET to vote, the
decent candidates
have been long outspent by the political machine that perpetuates
Keith writes:
Anyway, hadn't you guys over there better start thinking about taking
your country back? Please???
Great idea, but hard to do when the Democrats haven't got anyone to
offer but a bunch of uninspiring wimps who would've been called
Republicans back in the good ol' days :-).
I
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Keith writes:
Anyway, hadn't you guys over there better start thinking about
taking
your country back? Please???
Great idea, but hard to do when the Democrats haven't got anyone to
offer but a bunch of
Hi MM
I'm a little confused. I thought that GM has announced having to turn
to Toyota for hybrid technology to bring these hybrids out. But in
this USA Today presentation, no mention seems to be made of that, and
at the end GM comes off as some sort of supposed innovator in the
field.
Yes,
The Future of Fuel-Efficient Cars
Designers have built cars that can run on everything from soybean oil
to solar power. So why aren't we driving them?
NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE
April 5 - Since 1972, more than 30 fuel-efficient,
experimental-and
Hi Motie
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Keith writes:
Anyway, hadn't you guys over there better start thinking about
taking
your country back? Please???
Great idea, but hard to do when the Democrats haven't got anyone to
offer but
Hello Darryl
Please pardon the snip, interesting stuff! But I just want to ask...
snip
(Still working toward my biodiesel-electric hybrid car as cashflow permits.)
Are you building it?
Best
Keith
Darryl McMahon 48 Tarquin Crescent,
Econogics, Inc. Nepean, Ontario K2H 8J8
Yeah, but without energy centralization, how else are they (corporate) going
to create the desired enviroment of I've got it ALL ... you're a
heroin-addict that desperately needs it ... now let's discuss the price??
The dealer may have made the mistake of becoming more addicted than
the
Alan S. Petrillo wrote:
Or age it. But then aging meat the old fashioned way is not FDA
approved. I've been eating a lot of grass fed, grass finished beef
lately, and if I age it properly before I cook it then it's fork tender,
and very tasty. I even get to shake the hand of the farmer
Hello Ramjee
Interesting days, these...
Aren't they? Interesting post too, thankyou.
NEW DELHI: The Government is mulling investment of over Rs 17,500
crore to undertake a comprehensive programme for extracting oil from
Jatropha plantations for blending with diesel. [1]
I am also told that
BIODIESEL BULLETIN
A Monthly Newsletter of the
National Biodiesel Board
January 2, 2003
HEADLINES:
ARLINGTON COUNTY VEHICLES SWITCH TO BIODIESEL
STUDY FINDS ILLINOIS TAX INCENTIVE WOULD HAVE POSITIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT
WASHINGTON UPDATE
BIODIESEL FACILITY BEGINS PRODUCTION IN RALSTON, IOWA
SPECIAL
I think that the success of Hydrogen, either via ICE or Fuel Cell will
entirely depend on public acceptance. The CNG technology has been out for
quite some time for home an puplic infructure use and it's acceptance is
marginal as far as alternative fuels go, mostly in fleets at best. What
will
Hi Keith
Yes, I am building the car, well, more accurately gutting and converting a
previous
ICE machine. (1973 Porsche 914 chosen because it is small, light and
relatively
simple mechanically and most parts are still available after-market).
The electric motor is installed. Battery
Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] provided:
NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE
snip
Canada has a lot of natural-gas vehicles because they have a
refueling network. But it took the Canadian government buying a fuel
company, Petrocan, which sells natural gas at its outlets.
Is Corbin actually selling Sparrows anymore? I thought they were moving
into their Merlin line completely (ie. ICE engine).
James Slayden
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Darryl McMahon wrote:
murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
The concept of grid-chargeable hybrids isn't mentioned but I think it
Hi Keith,
There was an interesting quip in your post that I found interesting and
had a question on.
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Keith Addison wrote:
There's probably room for all of those and more, and they'd do better
than an imposed jatropha plantation in the local niches where they're
best
This is somthing that I have been interested in for some time now, and have
been looking for more info, as to how to set things up ( like how to build a
tread mill, or a cage wheel ).
Greg H.
- Original Message -
From: MH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday,
James Slayden [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked:
Is Corbin actually selling Sparrows anymore? I thought they were moving
into their Merlin line completely (ie. ICE engine).
According to their website at http://www.corbinmotors.com/products_sparrow1.html
they are taking orders for 2003 Sparrow 1's.
Success of hydrogen is going to depend on its energy net gain. The current
over all 0.25% through electrolyses, has only been improved with platinum
as catalyzer. If they find something, it can be improved with 3 to 4 times
and be better or as good as gasoline and diesel.
Hakan
At 08:59 AM
True. I just didn't put that in cause I was looking at a more acceptance
issue. But yes, until there is a net energy GAIN, there won't even be
large production, or it will be expensive; both cost and energy wise.
James Slayden
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Hakan Falk wrote:
Success of hydrogen is
One of the problems (I think) associated with
liquid and electric vehicles is when comparing
energy derived at a given weight,
Lead acid battery___1x
Ethanol50x
E8580x
Gasoline_100x
I'm unsure of the source of these figures and
question how it
Acutally, if your calculations are correct, electricity doesn't look half
bad. :) Even better if TOU net metering with some solar was taken in to
account. We also have to take the energy conversion of the vehicle system
which EV's come out way ahead of ICE vehicles, no matter what fuel is
Acutally, if your calculations are correct, electricity doesn't look half
bad. :) Even better if TOU net metering with some solar was taken in to
account. We also have to take the energy conversion of the vehicle system
which EV's come out way ahead of ICE vehicles, no matter what fuel is
Those numbers are fuel comparisons not drivetrain.
To the end user curb weight and range tell it all.
Lead Acid needs to be replaced by something more efficient. Skeleton says
their new supercap is an order of magnitude better than the current crop of
caps. A hybrid using their cap would beat
You guys need to read The New Thought Police by
Tammy Bruce. You guys ain't seen nothing yet!
Jonathan Fairbanks
East Tawas, MI
--- csakima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I feel the same way about this social pressure.
Almost as if it's (the
pressure) being used as (quite an effective)
Actually it was the reports of Sparrow I owners that had indicated that
and Corbin's lack of any visable support. :)
So I called Tom Corbin directly today and here is what the skivey is:
They have ~70-72 Sparrow I's that are being changed over to the AC
system. About 22 are already paid
Hi Darryl,
Are you using a VoltsPorsche kit? I was wondering how those work out.
James Slayden
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Darryl McMahon wrote:
Hi Keith
Yes, I am building the car, well, more accurately gutting and converting
a previous
ICE machine. (1973 Porsche 914 chosen because it is
Kirk, U got a link for that?
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, kirk wrote:
Those numbers are fuel comparisons not drivetrain.
To the end user curb weight and range tell it all.
Lead Acid needs to be replaced by something more efficient. Skeleton says
their new supercap is an order of magnitude better
Darryl McMahon wrote:
Their solution - at-home refueliing for those with a NG connection.
This involves installing a compressor (Fuelmaker is one brand) connected
to a 220
volt outlet and a 2 psi natural gas line. These used to be available only by
lease,
but they can be purchased now.
Hi Darryl
Very nice! And good for you!
Several people have talked along these lines here since this list
started three years ago, and some said they were doing it, but we
never heard much detail, nor the end of the story: Hey! It works!
Please keep us updated, and if you have technical
Personally, I'm skeptical of fuel cells for mobile use altogether. Hydrogen
just
presents more handling, storage and production issues than current liquid
fuels.
I think you and I are on the same page on several of the issues you
mention.
On the Hydrogen issue I'll reitterate that I don't
I'll crosspost to the evworld.com group from this biofuel group
because I think the folks there may find your summary views
interesting.
Last things first:
From the LA Times article: Toyota announced in July that it plans to
market 20 fuel-cell / hybrid vehicles by the end of this year.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/dowjones/20030103/bs_dowjones/200301031651000359
Nothing special in this article, just linking it for the
price-reference. It is interesting to see Venezuela exacerbating the
situation (as though a gulf war wouldn't already drive prices up
Hi James
Hi Keith,
There was an interesting quip in your post that I found interesting and
had a question on.
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Keith Addison wrote:
There's probably room for all of those and more, and they'd do better
than an imposed jatropha plantation in the local niches where
You guys need to read The New Thought Police by
Tammy Bruce. You guys ain't seen nothing yet!
Jonathan Fairbanks
East Tawas, MI
Uh... The left control the media and are working towards the downfall
of America, etc etc, according to Ms Bruce. What a joke. Rupert
Murdoch, eg, well-known
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46261-2002Dec27.html
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-Original Message-
From: James Slayden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 6:01 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [evworld] Re: [biofuel] GM rethinks hydrogen fuel cells
In 10 to 15 years, we will see a lot of fuels cells out there, not the ones
that could power a car, but the ones that can power a notebook, a flash
light, toys, etc. My best guess will be ethanol or similar. Hydrogen maybe,
but I doubt it when you can use methanol directly. The price
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Keith,
Some of us are in active pursuit of that goal. It can't be done
from
the Top down, or effectively from the Grass Roots up. It needs to
be
a concerted effort on all levels at once.
And you are correct in your
Have a struggling economy and a president who hopes to blue
blazes consumers go out and buy, buy, buy? Not on your life if
the cost of goods start going up as a result of increase fuel
costs. Which equals another tailspin on consumer purchases.
I used to have a rule in going clothing shopping to
Things could be worse
Puppet government in Iraq to help prevent OPEC switching from dollar to euro
(english)
MaxDProphet [repost from DC Indymedia] 2:03pm Fri Jan 3 '03
article#226551
http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=226551group=webcast
The it's all about oil mantra
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