Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-04-26 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 24 Apr 2003 at 20:52, murdoch wrote: As I mentioned last month, I am in favor of looking into greater computer control of vehicles, or, more accurately, gradually increased automated vehicle driving and warning systems, integrated with driver command, to reduce traffic deaths. I believe

Re: [biofuel] Extreme Engineering

2003-04-26 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 25 Apr 2003 at 14:25, Kim Garth Travis wrote: Has anyone been watching the new series on Discovery Television? While the first show about an underwater tube train from America to [SNIP] ... ... ... [SNIP] Maybe, some engineers are trying to make a better world? Oi, back off yobbo. As a

[biofuel] Santa Cruz and Berkeley CA biodiesel talks this weekend

2003-04-26 Thread girl mark
Hi all Her'es a few more biodiesel happenings this weekend- Santa Cruz- saturday, april 27th (tomorrow) UCSC Campus Earth Fair- biodiesel presentation by girl Mark, tabling by French Fry Grease Hustlers, literature, etc. Come let us talk your head off about biodiesel and why and how.

RE: [biofuel] How We Lost the Victory

2003-04-26 Thread Keith Addison
Call it what you want, stealing, redistribution, tribute, taxes whatever. No - you can call it what *you* want, but, once again, who said anything about stealing? A rather strange non-sequitur. What the gentleman, Mr Madison, was talking about wasn't stealing, it was protecting the class

Re: [biofuel] Extreme Engineering

2003-04-26 Thread Keith Addison
Kim writes: Actually I have 20, but there is not enough land in this world for everyone to have 20. We need to put the people somewhere. Your post just made me want to get out the old calculator! You're absolutely right, at least by my calculations :-) I get only 3.2 acres of land per

Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-04-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Andrew, You have a large number of countries that have the same ratios or some even better than Australia, The Netherlands Germany Switzerland Norway Finland Denmark Sweden UK etc. I always wondered why US, with corresponding speed limits, have such a high fatality rate. It is not my

Re: [biofuel] Extreme Engineering

2003-04-26 Thread Kim Garth Travis
Really, I would think the profession has the same ratio of angels and devils as any other profession. Especially since traffic and pedestrian engineers are civil engineers. I just love the guy who designs the roads but doesn't even hold a drivers licence. [I have met several in Calgary and

Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-04-26 Thread Keith Addison
Andrew, You have a large number of countries that have the same ratios or some even better than Australia, The Netherlands Germany Switzerland Norway Finland Denmark Sweden UK etc. I always wondered why US, with corresponding speed limits, have such a high fatality rate. It is not my

Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-04-26 Thread Greg and April
I would go so far as to say that most Americans have not the foggiest idea, of what the constitution is about let alone what it means for them. Add into it, the fact that many politicians have given people the wrong idea about what their rights are, in order to stay in office, and you have the

Re: [biofuel] Thermal Building Codes for developing countries.

2003-04-26 Thread Greg and April
Looking good so far. I have a couple of thoughts, and will pass them on once I have them figured out. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 18:07 Subject: [biofuel]

Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-04-26 Thread Greg and April
Comments below. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 10:00 Subject: Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002 I thought at first the whole idea might be because US cars are generally big and the

Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-04-26 Thread murdoch
Andrew: I am replying to this second-hand because of a messup with my email program. 1 death per 6546 in the USA Vs 1 death per 11304 in Australia This means that you are nearly twice as likely to die on the roads in the US as you are in Australia. By one way of looking at things.

RE: [biofuel] Extreme Engineering

2003-04-26 Thread kirk
You don't just design roads as an individual. There are standards that have been derived over time that have to be met for Federal subsidized road. Personal expression or artistic latitude in the design just isn't. My daughter is an engineer for the Department of Transportation (DOT). She has

Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-04-26 Thread Party of Citizens
I was on Granville Mall, Vancouver, yesterday. Nice and peaceful and safe. Only city buses, taxis etc. can travel that street. Lots of big green trees along the street and there would be no smog at all to disrupt their growth if all vehicles were electric or hydrogen. If all future city streets

Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-04-26 Thread Kim Garth Travis
At 10:37 AM 4/26/2003 -0600, you wrote: Comments below. -- Perhaps it is the drivers after all is said and done, and not the vehicles that are dangerous. Greg H. In Texas, at least, it is the driver instruction. It is a total joke. I have held an instructors licence in Alberta, Canada for

Re: The changing Dictionary Was: [biofuel] Rigged elctions--Read David Icke

2003-04-26 Thread Alan Petrillo
csakima wrote: [Bush's religion] Christian!!?? . More like PRristian!! Well, actually I originally thought he was a PRistian. When I saw him making such of a point of publicly praying with the crowd after 9-11 my first reaction was "Yeah, good show." Then I did some

Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-04-26 Thread desertstallion
To compare driving fatalities of the USA with other countries on a per capita basis is worthless. There needs to be consideration of the higher miles/person driven in a year. People do everything by car in the US, from shopping, working, commuting, entertainment, to the Sunday drive for no

Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-04-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Keith, I made close to 3,000,000 km in my life and around 40,000 of them in US. Apart from the discussion about SUV and heavy vehicles, in which we have some clear common points, I have some other opinions concerning the majority of accidents in US. It is my experience, that in most parts of

Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-04-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Kim, I wrote my opinion before i read yours and tried to avoid US bashing. Since you so bluntly are saying what I wanted, I can only second it. Hakan At 01:17 PM 4/26/2003 -0500, you wrote: At 10:37 AM 4/26/2003 -0600, you wrote: Comments below. -- Perhaps it is the drivers after all is

Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-04-26 Thread martin
Andrew Lowe wrote: I think you are getting a bit carried away with computer control of vehicles when a bit of common sense will nearly halve the US road toll. By way of example, lets compare and contrast Australia with the USA. Both countries are affluent, with high standards

Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-04-26 Thread Hakan Falk
At 07:06 PM 4/26/2003 -0400, you wrote: Andrew Lowe wrote: I think you are getting a bit carried away with computer control of vehicles when a bit of common sense will nearly halve the US road toll. By way of example, lets compare and contrast Australia with the USA. Both

Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-04-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Martin, I made a mistake, Denmark have the lowest accident rate per square mile, forgot that Greenland is a part of Denmark. Australia is only the second lowest. Hakan At 01:41 AM 4/27/2003 +0200, you wrote: At 07:06 PM 4/26/2003 -0400, you wrote: Andrew Lowe wrote: I think you

Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-04-26 Thread Appal Energy
Curiosity gives cause to the question, How may ways are there of looking at dead? Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002 Andrew:

Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-04-26 Thread Appal Energy
Ahlrighty then, Just for conversational purposes, what might be the rights of US individuals and internationals as you see them? Might as well start creating common ground. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Greg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent:

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Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

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Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

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