Re: [biofuel] plastic tank... Stainless?

2004-05-22 Thread Hakan Falk
Heidi, Your budget does not have to go, it has been suggested several times on the list to search for scrapped warm water heater. Many of them are actually of stainless steel. Hakan At 17:55 22/05/2004, you wrote: > >plastic > >tanks, start to soften already at 60 degree Celsius and they wil

[biofuel] Re: I did my first titration and have questions

2004-05-22 Thread biobenz
Did you just plop in there or constantly stir as you were adding the 0.1% ? Use a chopstick and CONSTANTLY stir the mix and see what happens. 8.5 - 9.0ml sounds like it was tar. Luc --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Jeremy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First time titrating and here's what I did

[biofuel] Re: processor from cone shaped plastic tank? Todd

2004-05-22 Thread biobenz
He he."nothing ever breaks until it breaks". Some folks just don't "get it" that it is better to learn from what others have gone through rather than having to experience it all first hand all over again, costing bizzilions more in time and expense of finances to arrive at the same point. A wi

RE: [biofuel] Straight WVO...6 port switch

2004-05-22 Thread Richard U
> -Original Message- > From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc > > 4) source for six port solenoid or manual valve. (tank switch) > > 5) schematic for variable time delay shut down solenoid controller. > > This is for an unsupervised clean fuel shut-down burn. > > > > See: > > http://www.biofuels.ca

[biofuel] Real Men Reduce Oil Demand

2004-05-22 Thread Keith Addison
Real Men Reduce Oil Demand New York Times Editorial Board May 19, 2004 By focusing on the supply-side role of OPEC, the candidates are confusing the issue about oil and gas prices. The answer lies in transforming our economy to be more energy efficient and, ultimately, powered by renewables.

[biofuel] EERE Network News -- 05/19/04

2004-05-22 Thread EERE Network News
A weekly newsletter from the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE). May 19, 2004 <#news>News and Events <#6853>DOE, GM Launch a Fuel Efficiency, Emissions Contest for the Chevy Equinox <#6878>Maryland Local G

[biofuel] Saudi Oil Is Secure and Plentiful, Say Officials

2004-05-22 Thread Keith Addison
Anyone see this? There's also a piece by Anthony Sampson in the Independent, but only for subscribers (which I'm not): "Anthony Sampson: The war in Iraq is distracting the West from the looming crisis in Saudi Arabia -- The ultimate nightmare for Western consumers is to find that the biggest

Re: [biofuel] Ratifying the Kyoto Protocol

2004-05-22 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Hoagy Thankyou, I suppose that's good news, but somehow I'm not heartened by this latest evidence that the Kyoto protocol and the future of the climate is just another pawn in a bit of sleazo back-room horse-trading. The Kyoto protocol's 10 years old now, and this is still going on. Insane

Re: [biofuel] I did my first titration and have questions

2004-05-22 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Jeremy >First time titrating and here's what I did: > >Mixed 1 gram lye (used a triple beam) with 1000ml of distilled water >to obtain my .1% solution). I then added 10 ml. of 99% isopropyl to >a small beaker, to this I added 1 ml. of WVO and sat it in a warm >bath until it was clear.

Re: [biofuel] Diesel VWs: High Mileage Vehicles, Well Kept Secrets?

2004-05-22 Thread Bruce Colley
Keith- >>The vegetable-based lubricating oil that is referred to, is >>mandatory to use in Elsbett converted engines, according to the >>Elsbett instructions. However, this lubricating oil, made by Fuchs, >>is not sold in the U.S. so this poses a problem. However, I have >>not been able

[biofuel] I did my first titration and have questions

2004-05-22 Thread Jeremy
First time titrating and here's what I did: Mixed 1 gram lye (used a triple beam) with 1000ml of distilled water to obtain my .1% solution). I then added 10 ml. of 99% isopropyl to a small beaker, to this I added 1 ml. of WVO and sat it in a warm bath until it was clear. I began adding the l

Re: [biofuel] Plastic cone shaped tanks - Heidi

2004-05-22 Thread Art Krenzel
Heidi, Here is the definitive information on the temperature and chemical limits of poly(?) tanks. http://www.chemtainer.com/new/home/pdf/chemres.pdf Art Krenzel - Original Message - From: Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 11:25 PM

Re: [biofuel] Straight WVO

2004-05-22 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
> > 4) source for six port solenoid or manual valve. (tank switch) > 5) schematic for variable time delay shut down solenoid controller. > This is for an unsupervised clean fuel shut-down burn. On Friday, May > 21, 2004, at 05:10 PM, Busyditch wrote: > >>> 4) source for six port solenoid or manu

Re: [biofuel] Re: looking for a biodiesel 4x4 station wagon

2004-05-22 Thread Steven Pfaff
IDEAL would be a V10 TDI Volkswagen Tourag. 310hp 533ft/lbs. tourque(enough to pull a very large anything). Only 25MPG though. With that much power and making my own fuel I could live with 25MPG. Adam Monsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:If you can, I haven't been able to find one! That /would/

Re: [biofuel] processor from cone shaped plastic tank?

2004-05-22 Thread Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema
>Poly tanks are rated. They're rated for chemical compatibility, UV >compatibility, specific gravity, positioning (vertical/horizontal) and >temperature, with the later generally being around 110*F for 1.9 SG. (Big smile) Thank you Todd. You've hit it right on the head. I didn't know how to as

Re: [biofuel] plastic tank... Stainless?

2004-05-22 Thread Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema
>plastic >tanks, start to soften already at 60 degree Celsius and they will not hold at >boiling point. If you get composite tanks that will take around 100 degree >Celsius, they are at least 3 times more expensive than the common ones. Thank you Hakan. This was very illuminating and was some i

[biofuel] Ratifying the Kyoto Protocol

2004-05-22 Thread MH
Putin throws lifeline to Kyoto as EU backs Russia joining WTO http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,2763,198,00.html Nick Paton Walsh in Moscow Saturday May 22, 2004 The Guardian President Vladimir Putin yesterday reversed months of fervent opposition to the Kyoto protocol an

[biofuel] Re: Just picked up my first used oil. Is this type OK to use??

2004-05-22 Thread TJ Ferreira
There was only one post at the time I sent this message and I was not really sure what the guy meant as he said dump it on the ground and find some more. That is why I continued waiting for more responses. So yes, I guess I did not believe the first poster when they said dump it. I was guessin

[biofuel] waste to energy on an industrial scale

2004-05-22 Thread ossamasbeard
Turning Waste to methanol,pig iron & glass slag: The High Temperature Waste Conversion Plant A renowned German manufacturer in the waste disposal market has developed a process which converts organic and inorganic waste into valuable material. The system uses an innovative high-temperat

Re: [biofuel] Straight WVO

2004-05-22 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
Get those valves adjusted by someone familiar with Mercedes. It's supposed to be done regularly. It's not too difficult or too expensive and may even out the compression if it has not been neglected too long. Edward Beggs http://www.biofuels.ca On Friday, May 21, 2004, at 05:10 PM, Busyditch

[biofuel] Re: WARNING: Conical Bottom Tank Fittings...

2004-05-22 Thread ibedonc
That tank I pointed to and the one I started make BD with , I just made my own threads by using a 1 1/2" pipe coupler --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If anyone feels the need to work with plastic, conical-bottomed tanks, > please be advised that the go

Re: [biofuel] The Bush Doctrine & The Manson Doctrine

2004-05-22 Thread Appal Energy
Sorry, That should have been "supported on no other foundation..." Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 6:49 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] The Bush Doctrine & The Manson Doctrine > Rico, > > If you don't care to b

Re: [biofuel] processor from cone shaped plastic tank?

2004-05-22 Thread Appal Energy
Heidi, Plastic tanks come in sizes as large as 20,000 gallons. The trick is to apply their widely varying chemical and physical designs to compatible uses, not to use them for less than intelligent ends because they are less expensive than the appropriate tank. As for what "some folks" say? Does

Re: [biofuel] Re: Just picked up my first used oil. Is this type OK to use??

2004-05-22 Thread Appal Energy
Thomas, You already received two posts on separate lists that told you that your oil would work. Did you not believe them? Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "TJ Ferreira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 11:00 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Just picked up my fir

Re: [biofuel] processor from cone shaped plastic tank?

2004-05-22 Thread Appal Energy
"Heidi," It is important that you print what you are "supposing," rather than leaving it to conjecture. Not just because you have asked that others do the same, but to keep the surmising and "supposing" to a minimum. As to complete drainage of flat bottomed tanks? When complete drainage is absol

[biofuel] WARNING: Conical Bottom Tank Fittings...

2004-05-22 Thread Appal Energy
If anyone feels the need to work with plastic, conical-bottomed tanks, please be advised that the government issue bulkhead fittings that come with these tanks create a small dam that prevents complete drainage. If you are buying this style tank for the purpose of complete drainage, you will need

Re: [biofuel] The Bush Doctrine & The Manson Doctrine

2004-05-22 Thread Appal Energy
Rico, If you don't care to believe fact, that's your choice. However, it's my choice not to take others too seriously when they dance around, deny, distort or attempt to dissuade others from fact - their own "arguments" supported on other foundation than their unfounded opinion. If that's what

[biofuel] Re: looking for a biodiesel 4x4 station wagon

2004-05-22 Thread Matt Pozzi
Well if your Biodeisel is top notch, try a Peugeot 406 HDi Wagon for size, common rail and it should work. I am going to buy a 307 HDi and try it for size, not quite as big but modern styling, I would prefer the 406 but you just cannot buy one second hand in Australia, no reseels their, they l

Re: [biofuel] processor from cone shaped plastic tank?

2004-05-22 Thread Hakan Falk
Heidi, What I think Todd is alluding to is that the plastic used in most of those plastic tanks, start to soften already at 60 degree Celsius and they will not hold at boiling point. If you get composite tanks that will take around 100 degree Celsius, they are at least 3 times more expensive th

Re: [biofuel] No time to quit Keith

2004-05-22 Thread Keith Addison
>Keith, Keith your our man... > >Seriously, Keith thanks. > >Michael Patrick Lendzian >Information Technology Manager >Skidaway Institute of Oceanography >Savannah, GA 31411 >912.598.2330 :-) You're welcome Michael. And thankyou too. Best wishes Keith Yahoo! Groups

Re: [biofuel] According to ability for Keith

2004-05-22 Thread Keith Addison
>In the Bible it is said that they that had stuff sold it and >distribution was made so that no one lacked. The Koran says," from >each according to his ability unto each according to his need", so >if anybody is to be "robbed" it should be those who have the most >and distribution made to those w

[biofuel] Re: looking for a biodiesel 4x4 station wagon

2004-05-22 Thread Adam Monsen
If you can, I haven't been able to find one! That /would/ be my ideal vehicle, though. --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Steven Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can't you get the "4motion" on a TDI Volkswagen Jetta wagon? > > Adam Monsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Anyone know a manufacturer that

[biofuel] biodiesel with pongamia oil

2004-05-22 Thread shashi kumar
DEAR FRIENDs Can any one help me by giving the process for making Biodiesel at home in India from pongamia pinnata oil.In India we are useing this oil as SVO INDIAN INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE Banglore has done a commendable job by electrifing Indian tribal villages where electricity was unheard,with po

Re: [biofuel] Plastic cone shaped tanks - Heidi

2004-05-22 Thread Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema
>Apparently they are not what some have cracked them up to be, but >you are welcomed to get one and have a go at it if you want. Send >pics :) There comes a point where either you believe what people >here are telling you or you don't. Experience is a great teacher, >but other peoples' experience

Re: [biofuel] processor from cone shaped plastic tank?

2004-05-22 Thread Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema
> >Does anybody out there personally use a poly tank to make their bd? >Yup. But only as wash, storage and transfer vessels, not as a reactor. Just >don't have much desire to see 400 gallons of hot oil and caustic running >round the bend and down to the creek. (Moment of awed silence) 400 gallo

[biofuel] Re: Just picked up my first used oil. Is this type OK to use??

2004-05-22 Thread TJ Ferreira
I was hoping to hear from someone that knows this stuff to let me know soon so I can buy the methanol and lye this weekend and get started on my first test batch. Does anyone know here if my oil pickup will work or is this oil type not a good idea. Thanks Thomas --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com,

[biofuel] Re: Anyone here make there own processor from cone shaped plastic tank?

2004-05-22 Thread TJ Ferreira
I think that is what we are trying to do. Make our own kit from these conical shaped tanks that will do what we want at a much lower price than these companies that are offering them. That is why we are getting some more data. I kinda of like the idea of using a water heater tank also but the o

[biofuel] Plastic cone shaped tanks - Heidi

2004-05-22 Thread biobenz
For even more than what Keith has already given you, you can check out what Girl Mark posted about them along with evidentiary photos here: http://www.veggieavenger.com/avengerboard/viewtopic.php?t=342 Apparently they are not what some have cracked them up to be, but you are welcomed to get one

Re: [biofuel] processor from cone shaped plastic tank?

2004-05-22 Thread Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema
Hello Todd, >It's not >necessarily the tank that is determined to be by and large worthless. Ah, it is as I was supposing, then. >As for your wallet? If a person were on a really tight budget they could use >a flat bottomed >HDPE tank and place it on a shallow incline. This would avoid the extr

[biofuel] According to ability for Keith

2004-05-22 Thread biobenz
In the Bible it is said that they that had stuff sold it and distribution was made so that no one lacked. The Koran says," from each according to his ability unto each according to his need", so if anybody is to be "robbed" it should be those who have the most and distribution made to those wh

Re: [biofuel] No time to quit Keith

2004-05-22 Thread Michael Lendzian
Keith, Keith your our man... Seriously, Keith thanks. Michael Patrick Lendzian Information Technology Manager Skidaway Institute of Oceanography Savannah, GA 31411 912.598.2330 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchi

Re: [biofuel] Just picked up my first used oil. Is this type OK to use??

2004-05-22 Thread Michael Lendzian
Yes Thomas, yes! Go forth and do great things. I personally made and fueled my own F250 with Biodiesel made from the Creamy Blend. -Michael Michael Patrick Lendzian Information Technology Manager Skidaway Institute of Oceanography Savannah, GA 31411 912.598.2330 Biofuel at Journey to For

[biofuel] Plastic Cones

2004-05-22 Thread Steve Murphy
Hello list, I'm not sure, but I don't think I've ever posted here before, so here's my intro: I'm very new to actually driving on any bioD at all, but I've been reading the internet/ on lists like this for about 3 years. I'll get into what took me so long in another post but basically it's the us

Re: [biofuel] The Bush Doctrine & The Manson Doctrine

2004-05-22 Thread rico suavae
Hi Todd, Been laid up.I'm sorry I couldn't back to you sooner. Are we back to the name calling or don't I even rate half a whit?I was sincere about the web site.It was above the usual.There was just too much conjecture for my taste. I thank you for affording me a half hour of your valuable time.

Re: [biofuel] Straight WVO

2004-05-22 Thread Busyditch
>4) source for six port solenoid or manual valve. (tank switch) J. C. Whitney - Original Message - From: "Richard U" <> To: "biofuel" Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 11:13 AM Subject: [biofuel] Straight WVO > HI, I've just bought an '83 Mercedes 300TD (5 cyl 3L turbo wagon) > for the sole

Re: [biofuel] Anyone know of a good list for saving energy in the home?

2004-05-22 Thread rico suavae
Hi Tia,Rico here in Chicago.We need a little more information before we can provide some suggestions. First.How many tons of cooling does each unit provide? How many sq.ft.is each floor.?Where are the bedrooms?Do you entertain a lot? How thick are the walls?What roofing materials were used? I k

Re: [biofuel] What is typical cost for gallon of methanol?

2004-05-22 Thread Derek Sceats
I found a place in the Seattle area that is selling Methanol at $3.65/gal for less than 55 gallon quantities (if you are bringing your own containers), then $2.65/gal for 55 gallon and larger purchases. > > > > > Just getting started.  Live here in California where everything is > double

Re: [biofuel] The Bush Doctrine & The Manson Doctrine

2004-05-22 Thread rico suavae
Hi Keith,Sorry I didn't reply sooner.Threw out my back.Couldn't stand to sit if you'll pardon the pun.Yes and no.I did read the link but missed the author.My fault.A pox upon me! or something like that. As I said before When I was living down south there were many in gov.offices looking for opp

Re: [biofuel] processor from cone shaped plastic tank?

2004-05-22 Thread Appal Energy
>Does anybody out there personally use a poly tank to make their bd? >Heidi Yup. But only as wash, storage and transfer vessels, not as a reactor. Just don't have much desire to see 400 gallons of hot oil and caustic running round the bend and down to the creek. Todd Swearingen --

Re: [biofuel] What is typical cost for gallon of methanol?

2004-05-22 Thread Appal Energy
Thomas, Methanol should run neck and neck in price with low test petrol when you can find a bulk supplier. If you buy it in 55 gallon barrels expect a 25-35% increase. Smaller lots incur even higher pricing. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "TJ Ferreira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To