Re: [Biofuel] Happy Solstice all, Taking the list down.

[Frank]

Hi & Thx Chip +everyone,
Sure have enjoyed many of the articles over the years. Don't think there's 
another list quite as unique! You certainly have made a difference in this 
world.

Thx 4 All the current-day enlightenment + eye-opening conscientious info that 
'Main Stream Media' somehow manages to miss. 

Anyone know where to get more data/info similar to what we've been blessed to 
be a part of?

Thx again & Happy Holidays,
Frank  

On Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:42 PM, Chip Mefford  wrote:
 

 It has been many years now since Keith passed. 

As things stand, Darryl is about the only traffic posted here
and even that is echoing (admittedly interesting) stuff 
posted elsewhere. 

If anyone is interested, I can and am willing to provide the subscriber's
list if anyone wishes to continue this work.

As things stand, this mailing list is the only mailing list left on
my mailman server that gets any traffic at all, and the spam to post
ratio is about 70:1 (intercepted). 

As of 20170101, the list will shut down.

The archives will of course remain in place until such a time as
those responsible for them decide to take some other action.

Please take these few days to make your farewells.

So long
and thanks for everything.

your list-admin
--chipper
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[Biofuel] Foods subject to Chemical Run-off Absorption

[Frank]

Hi, lately we have been hearing about Arsenic in apple juice & rice and 
Consumer Reports findings. This seems 2b a topic that should have Much more 
Media/PSA coverage, but seems kept hushed. Isn't this a matter of Public Safety?

Dr. Oz has brought these 2 to light, but what about Potatoes, Peanuts, Carrots 
& other root/underground vegetables/food stuffs? Shouldn't this be on the label 
as per recommended weekly servings or milligrams/serving?
Thx
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Re: [Biofuel] Multifunctional nanoparticles for cheaper, cleaner biofuel

[Frank]

Wow! ...just think of the possibilities and long-reaching benefits. Thanks for 
posting this

On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:53 AM, Darryl McMahon  wrote:
 
http://phys.org/news/2014-05-multifunctional-nanoparticles-cheaper-cleaner-biofuel.html

Multifunctional nanoparticles for cheaper, cleaner biofuel

The U.S. Department of Energy's Ames Laboratory has created a faster, 
cleaner biofuel refining technology that not only combines processes, it 
uses widely available materials to reduce costs.

Ames Laboratory scientists have developed a nanoparticle that is able to 
perform two processing functions at once for the production of green 
diesel, an alternative fuel created from the hydrogenation of oils from 
renewable feedstocks like algae.

The method is a departure from the established process of producing 
biodiesel, which is accomplished by reacting fats and oils with alcohols.

"Conventionally, when you are producing biodiesel from a feedstock that 
is rich in free fatty acids like microalgae oil, you must first separate 
the fatty acids that can ruin the effectiveness of the catalyst, and 
then you can perform the catalytic reactions that produce the fuel," 
said Ames Lab scientist Igor Slowing. "By designing multifunctional 
nanoparticles and focusing on green diesel rather than biodiesel, we can 
combine multiple processes into one that is faster and cleaner." 
Contrary to biodiesel, green diesel is produced by hydrogenation of fats 
and oils, and its chemical composition is very similar to that of 
petroleum-based diesel. Green diesel has many advantages over biodiesel, 
like being more stable and having a higher energy density.

An Ames Lab research group, which included Slowing, Kapil Kandel, Conerd 
Frederickson, Erica A. Smith, and Young-Jin Lee, first saw success using 
bi-functionalized mesostructured nanoparticles. These ordered porous 
particles contain amine groups that capture free fatty acids and nickel 
nanoparticles that catalyze the conversion of the acids into green 
diesel. Nickel has been researched widely in the scientific community 
because it is approximately 2000 times less expensive as an alternative 
to noble metals traditionally used in fatty acid hydrogenation, like 
platinum or palladium.

Creating a bi-functional nanoparticle also improved the resulting green 
diesel. Using nickel for the fuel conversion alone, the process resulted 
in too strong of a reaction, with hydrocarbon chains that had broken 
down. The process, called "cracking," created a product that held less 
potential as a fuel.

"A very interesting thing happened when we added the component 
responsible for the sequestration of the fatty acids," said Slowing. "We 
no longer saw the cracking of molecules. So the result is a better 
catalyst that produces a hydrocarbon that looks much more like diesel. "

"It also leaves the other components of the oil behind, valuable 
molecules that have potential uses for the pharmaceutical and food 
industries," said Slowing.

But Slowing, along with Kapil Kandel, James W. Anderegg, Nicholas C. 
Nelson, and Umesh Chaudhary, took the process further by using iron as 
the catalyst. Iron is 100 times cheaper than nickel. Using iron improved 
the end product even further, giving a faster conversion and also 
reducing the loss of CO2 in the process.

"As part of the mission of the DOE, we are focused on researching the 
fundamental science necessary to create the process; but the resulting 
technology should in principle be scalable for industry," he said.

The process is discussed in a paper, "Bifunctional Adsorbent-Catalytic 
Nanoparticles for the Refining of Renewable Feedstocks" published in 
2013 in ACS Catalysis, and also in "Supported Iron Nanoparticles for the 
Hydrodeoxygenationof Microalgal Oil to Green Diesel" published in May 
2014 in the Journal of Catalysis.

A patent application has been filed for this technology.
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[Biofuel] Don't Let Monsanto Kill the Humble but Wholesome Dandelion

[Frank Bergmans]

Ter info

Dandelion = paardenbloem

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/15982-dont-let-monsanto-kill-the-humble-but-wholesome-dandelion
 
Don't Let Monsanto Kill the Humble but Wholesome Dandelion

Thursday, 25 April 2013 09:26

By Phreddy Wischusen, The Michigan Citizen | Op-Ed

[Long-rooted herbs, indeed!]

I was watching TV the other day.  Commercial break.  Cut to a lush green lawn.  
A single yellow dandelion springs up through the emerald expanse. 
  The heroic protagonist appears left.  He spies the flower, runs, dives, 
somersaults onto the lawn and pops up sturdily on one knee. 
Brandishing a bottle of weed killer, he fires.  The patented nozzle rains hell 
on the defenseless sunbather.  The flower withers. And dies. 
The lawn-owner is triumphant.  Right?

Though considered a weed by Round Up and many home/lawn owners in the United 
States, the dandelion is actually an incredibly nutritious food. 
  It's a great source of calcium, potassium, iron and manganese.  It's replete 
with vitamins A, C, E, K, Niacin and Riboflavin.  Chock full of beta-carotene. 
The lecithin in its golden top detoxifies the liver. The roots can be roasted 
to make a coffee substitute, or used in soups.  The leaves (tastiest after they 
first emerge for the season or after the first frost) can be eaten, as can its 
sweet yellow blossoms.  People use them in salads raw, boil them, fry them with 
bacon, marinate them in vinegar, and sauté them with fresh garlic. Did you ever 
notice that if you break the stem of a dandelion that a milky white liquid 
comes out? 
Well, you can use that liquid to ease the pain of bee stings and sores. 
  Remember the advice of the great ancient Greek physician, Hippocrates, "Let 
food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food".  These vitamins and minerals 
boost the immune system, fight anemia, and help prevent the development of type 
II diabetes.  Remember the brain is a part of our body as well.  Healthy bodies 
mean healthy brains.  Proper nutrition prevents depression and anxiety and 
improves concentration.  Scientists even believe that lecithin may help combat 
Alzheimer's.

Other cultures consume dandelions regularly.  My friend Ricardo has spent many 
summers living in Greece. I asked him how similar the food in Greek town was to 
food "normal" people eat in Greece.  "Very similar" he told me "with one 
crucial difference.  The Greek grandmothers gather fresh greens (dandelions 
especially) every day.  Then they add these greens to tomato and cucumber 
salads, to meals of roasted lamb, and spinach pie."  Even in Pensacola, 
Florida, my friend Kate's yaya would often demand that the car be pulled over 
so she could pick fresh dandelion greens off the side of the road.

The dandelion doesn't simply nourish humans; it nourishes other plants as well. 
 Year after year this perennial often reappears in spite of all the mowings, 
weedings, and poisonings it endures.  This is because the dandelion has a 
"taproot", a long twisted root that can grow three feet deep within the earth.  
The taproot brings minerals and nutrients not available at the soil's surface 
to neighboring plants with shorter roots.  The taproot connects us to less 
contaminated parts of Mother Earth.  It connects us to our foundations.

In the Round Up commercial, the protagonist is only truly successful in 
poisoning his home, his body and his mind while he prostrates himself before 
his corporate overlords.

Round Up is made by Monsanto.  There isn't space enough in this whole paper to 
talk about Monsanto.  Just Google "trouble with Monsanto" and read for 
yourself.  Monsanto has a history of manufacturing and marketing DDT (see 
Rachel Carson's Silent Spring), Agent Orange  (see a Vietnam Vet) and rBGH or 
Recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone (see an overly-developed pre-teen in your 
neighborhood).  Over the years it has owned food manufacturers and 
pharmaceutical companies.

Monsanto and its subsidiaries, competitors, and peers sell us pesticides that 
kill the free food we could grow on our lawns.  Then they sell us processed 
foods that damage our bodies.  They sell us pharmaceuticals to "help" us with 
the ailments that come from eating those processed foods, ailments such as 
obesity, diabetes, kidney failure, and cancer.  We are even more susceptible to 
lesser ailments (common colds, influenzas, and
infections) because our immune systems lack the proper nutrients to 
combat them.   They profit at every step.  And at every step we suffer. 
  We get sick. We suffer. And we die.

I had suffered another sleepless night maniacally contemplating the end of 
democracy in Detroit, the subjugation of the people beneath corporate power, 
the psychological side effects of the advertising industry and on and on and 
on.  When a Google search can't sufficiently answer my worried soul-searching, 
I usually call my Dad. "Fred," he said. "It's your money. It's my money.  
Everyone's money is where they get their power.  The answ

Re: [Biofuel] Season's greetings

[Frank]

Thank you Keith... have a Great Holiday Season yourself & a terrific start to 
the New Year! 
Didn't expect the world to end, just the Mayan calendar ba'ak'tun (if that's 
how it's spelled) 
Let's make a wish for open-minded optimism with a realistic slant towards 
working together 
to ensure another 10 ba'ak'tuns or more.

Happy Holidays





 From: Keith Addison 
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org 
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 6:43 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Season's greetings
 
Dear All

Best wishes to everyone who's celebrating today. Peace and goodwill, and a 
happy, prosperous and wonderful New Year to one and all - everything you wish 
for yourself. Have a great holiday!

All best

Keith
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Re: [Biofuel] Dear all... [2]

[Frank]

Hi, just want to say a quick thanks 4 all the worldly info & am glad to hear 
that it will continue.  

Count us in 4 any new list/posting so that we may stay on the cutting edge of 
truth... the way 

it should be.  You are an inspiration & a breath of Ozone-FREE Air!





 From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 4:25 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Dear all... [2]
 
Lots of replies! I read them all, at least once. Many of them said 
very complimentary things that I wasn't at all aware of. (Another 
deep bow.) I haven't started replying yet, I'll do it as I can.

It's given me a clearer picture of how the list works and what people 
use it for. Two points emerge: members like the news snippets, and 
they don't want the list to close.

I've said we'll be replacing the list with a new online community, 
and I thought it could wait until then. But maybe not, maybe you're 
right, it shouldn't close.

Okay, so we won't close it then.

I checked it out with the host service, and we have another few weeks 
yet, so there's no big hurry, we'll figure out the nuts and bolts 
before then. The host service has been great, but we can't continue 
with them.

For 12 years now I've been committed to the list, as list owner and, 
well, its guardian, I suppose, but times change, and I can't afford 
to do that any longer, there just isn't enough time in the day. I'll 
be there, the guy who posts the news snippets, but probably not much 
more than that.

About the archives. As long as the listserve distributes the messages 
to the members, the archives updates automatically. With only 
snippets, sent direct, it wouldn't do that. If we continue with a 
listserve then the archives will stay current. (And the listserve 
software we need is Mailman.)

And, no, Journey to Forever is not closing. The list and Journey to 
Forever are associated, but not the same. I'm working full-time for 
Journey to Forever now (that's the problem).

Regarding news feeds, several members said they've subscribed to Tom 
Feeley's Information Clearing House - "For Global Justice". I have 
great admiration for Tom. He does a huge amount of work every day, 
and I've never seen him put a foot wrong. He's faced death threats, 
at least twice, but he's unstoppable. This is his website:

Information Clearing House
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/

Scroll down a bit and have a look at the column on the right listing 
the sources he checks, impressive. If you appreciate his work, please 
send Tom a few bucks every now and then if you can spare it. He 
regularly runs out of money and posts a plea in his newsletter, but 
what he never does is send out streams of in-your-face hard-sells for 
support like Common Dreams, Truthout and most of the other news sites 
do. He says he'd rather do what he's supposed to be doing, searching 
out the news. I know exactly how he feels!

If I cut incoming news feeds down to the essentials (which I'm trying 
to do), it would be Information Clearing House, Common Dreams and 
Truthout.

Common Dreams
http://www.commondreams.org/

Truthout
http://truth-out.org/

It's easy to dig deeper if you need to.

All best, and thanks again, very much

Keith


>It's October, the list is going to run out of time soon and the host 
>service will close it down. I'm not sure of the exact date, but 
>suddenly the music will stop.
>
>The new community I mentioned previously is still some way down the 
>road, but it will eventually happen. When it does, you'll be hearing 
>from me.
>
>Meanwhile, the list will stop, but I won't. I'll keep harvesting the 
>news, I do it anyway.
>
>If any list members would like to keep receiving these daily 
>snippets, I don't mind sending them direct. Please let me know - 
>offlist please.
>
>All best, and a very big thanks for everything, over the years. This 
>list has taught me so much (deep bow).
>
>Regards to all.
>
>Keith


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Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

[Frank Bergmans]

Hi Dan,

In the Netherlands greenhouse farming of vegetables and fruits is quite
well developed. In wintertime when temperature drops, heating is
necessary, even if still above zero. Due to agreements with the
government to reduce energy consumption the concept of the Energy
producing green house has been developed. Most of the information
available is in Dutch though. But this site has some information in
English http://www.zonneterp.nl/english/index_uk.html 

You might also search on `energieproducerende kas` (which means energy
producing green house) or look at http://www.kasalsenergiebron.nl/ and
use Google translation. Or try to contact the Product Board for
Horticulture http://www.tuinbouw.nl/project/energieproducerende-kas-0 

Or if you think about contacting companies who can do the job for you
can contact companies like http://www.dalsem.nl/,
http://www.dsgreenhouses.com/,
http://www.wagro-holland.nl/pagina_engels/index_engels.html provide
green house building technology. Or companies like http://www.sosef.nl/
provide turn key projects. 

Good luck.

Frank Bergmans

 

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Dan
Beukelman
Verzonden: woensdag 1 december 2010 5:44
Aan: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Onderwerp: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

Hello All,

   I have read your posts for several years, but have not ever posted -
lurking in the shadows I guess.

 

I am wondering if anyone out there has any thoughts/experience with
production agriculture from a greenhouse/hothouse structure.  I live in
South Dakota and have been thinking that with energy efficient glass and
the right setup that growing fresh vegetables likes tomatoes year around
might be possible (I say this with a wind chill today near 0
fahrenheit).  I have read that many of the US tomato supply is grown in
Canada, which is colder than us, our area is dominated by grain farming
- but I think that local foods stores would go nuts over a locally grown
garden type tomato in the Wintertime.  The construction costs of a very
efficient greenhouse should be able to be covered by the profit from
selling a well growing tomato crop, but the profits go out the window if
you have the heat much.  All of the greenhouses I know of around here
use plastic coverings and that is only useful for extending the growing
season a little bit on both ends.  I am thinking of keeping growth all
year or nearly all year.

 

Any thoughts?

Dan

 

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Re: [Biofuel] solar collector window

[Gary Frank]

Keith -

I looked at your response to the solar window post and link. I remember
seeing a movie called the Mosquito Coast (possibly with Harrison Ford) set
in Africa (I think). The man developed a freezer burning wood. After seeing
the picture on your link, I was wondering if you've seen such a thing
tailored around a boiler. I heat my house & hot water with biofuel. Why not
cool it in the manner previously described? Any thoughts? Have you seen such
a plan?

Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Gary Frank

-Original Message-
From: Dawie Coetzee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:25 AM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] solar collector window

Indeed. Low-yield photo-thermal is interesting to me right now. There seems
to me to be useful energy available in indirect hot-water collectors at
stagnation, if one has space for a bulky low-stressed Stirling engine and
isn't greedy for energy.

However, what is lacking in the solar world is a set of rules-of-thumb, that
would allow people to get some sort of idea of what sort of yield they might
expect for any given level of effort. The people who could benefit most from
appropriate solar energy are least in a position to experiment. Climates
differ and solar radiation varies from moment to moment, but there must
surely be more scope for workable guidelines for the informal constructor
than what is out there now.

Best regards

Dawie Coetzee





From: Jason Mier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, 24 August, 2009 11:52:45
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] solar collector window


> I don't
> really know my way round solar stuff (yet - next stop maybe), so my
> sense of what smells right doesn't go very far.

Keith,

don't sell yourself short, solar is simple. you only really have two
options, transferring energy, or reflecting it. the only hangup is PV uses
expensive chemicals to do it.

solar thermal
solar steam (a little risky)
reflective insulation (window quilts, etc.)
solar refrigeration!!
http://www.solarmirror.com/www_jul01/fridge.html

given the proper application of junk, baling wire, and good math, anyone can
do solar power, its not rocket surgery as the professionals would like us to
think.

if everybody realized how simple it was the "pros" would be out of work-
just like anything else.

as you say "Follow the money."

jason
_
Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you.
http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackT
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Re: [Biofuel] [BULK] Re: Hydrogen Car Sighting

[Frank Oliver]

I am confused about your analysis James. How is a fuel cell the same as
a current car technology?

A hydrogen fuel cell has 0 moving parts, and produces electricity for an
electric car. The Fuel Cell is a replacement for batteries.

Frank

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of James McCain Jr
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Subject: [BULK] Re: [Biofuel] Hydrogen Car Sighting
Importance: Low

I am not that excited about hydrogen fuel cells.  Yes it will be better
for the environment, but it is a super inefficient way to fuel a car.
Not to mention it is the same type of setup; you buy your overpriced
car, you now only have one choice on where to get fuel, you pay for
expensive maintenance on an inefficient engine with a zillion moving
parts. 

The better answer to this problem that wouldn't involve an IV like hook
up to fuel companies is ELECTRICITY.  It can be produced tons of
different ways, the car has 7 or less moving parts.  No maintenance and
no IV to the fuel companies.  

James

Alan Petrillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John Mullan wrote:
> Maybe just a research vehicle heading to some testing place?

That possibility does exist.  There are several vehicle manufacturers 
that test their vehicles in Florida, so maybe Ford is one of them.


AP

> Alan Petrillo wrote:
>> robert and benita wrote:
>>   
>>> Alan Petrillo wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>> I saw a hydrogen fuel cell powered Ford Focus in traffic this
afternoon. 
>>>>  It was on I-275 North going across the Howard Frankland bridge
going 
>>>> toward Tampa, Florida.
>>>>
>>>> On the back of a flatbed truck.
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>  . . . because it didn't have the range to get anywhere on its
own?
>>>
>>>  . . . because it couldn't find fuel?
>>>
>>>
>>>: - )
>>> 
>> All of the above?




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Re: [Biofuel] [BULK] Re: English (was Economic Freedom)

[Frank Oliver]

Robert,

I agree that there are very difficult spelling and reading issues in
English, but I want to point out.

Differenciate is not an English word. It is a common misspelling of
Differentiate. 

Check in Webster's dictionary. 

The rules in English are convoluted, what makes it worse is English
speaking people borrow a lot of words from other languages. There are
little bits of Spanish, French, German, and other scattered in. So to
spell efficiently you must not only know the rules of spelling, but you
must also know what language the word originated in and how that
language modifies the spelling rules. 

Frank Oliver

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of robert and benita
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:18 PM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: [BULK] Re: [Biofuel] English (was Economic Freedom)
Importance: Low

Kurt Nolte wrote:

>
>Or in the sound of an "a" such as "neighbor" or "weigh," hmm? ;)
>  
>

Please forgive me if this has come through twice.  I sent the 
message this morning, but it's apparently failed to reach its
destination.

The long A sound can be spelled:

a  (amoral, anal)
a - e (ate)
ay (day)
ea (great)
eigh (as in your examples, above)
ai (faint)
e - e (fete)
aigh (straight)


How about the NINE different ways of spelling the "r" sound?  And 
don't even TALK to me about the nefarious Mr. Schwa!

Aside from writing novels and teaching ingrateful high school 
students online, I'm an education specialist,  working with children who

suffer from learning disabilities.  (Most of them have trouble with 
vowel sounds for precisely the reason I've outlined above.)  Learning 
how to read and spell in English requires very strong visual memory 
skills.  For people like me who are primarily auditory, the need to 
learn how a word LOOKS, rather than how it sounds, leads to much
vexation.

For example:

   Different

   Difference

   Differentiate, or differenciate?

The sound of each combination is identical, but without the ability 
to recognize the standard spelling, it's easy to misspell.  I make those

kinds of mistakes all the time and it drives me CRAZY!

>English, I actually love it.
>  
>

I have a "love / hate" relationship with English.  Most people 
consider me fairly articulate, and in doing so, forget (or simply don't 
know) that it's not my "mother tongue."  I learned how to speak well in 
order to avoid the teasing laughter of neighborhood kids, and while 
NOBODY criticizes my manner of speech anymore, my spelling is another 
matter . . .  Nonetheless, I love to write and wish my books would sell 
well enough that I could focus on writing and drop teaching altogether.

: - )


robert luis rabello
"The Edge of Justice"
"The Long Journey"
New Adventure for Your Mind
http://www.newadventure.ca

Ranger Supercharger Project Page
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Re: [Biofuel] Farmer power the key to green advance

[Frank Navarrete]

Anytime!

On 3/1/07, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi Frank

>Well Keith, it seems Journey to Forever's prime objective is hitting
>the news stands.  I believe your site probably played more than a
>small part in the emergence of these ideas.

Reading that was the last thing that happened to me before I crashed
out last night, rather a nice way to end the day, thankyou!

Well, who knows. I guess the possibility cannot be denied, and if you
think so that's good enough for me.

Thanks for the encouragement Frank.

Regards

Keith



>Best,
>
>Frank
>
>On 2/25/07, Keith Addison
><<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6387975.stm
>BBC NEWS | Science/Nature |
>23 February 2007, 11:42 GMT
>
>Farmer power the key to green advance
>
>
>VIEWPOINT
>Michel Pimbert
>
>Behind several kinds of environmental damage lurks the hand of the
>farmer. The key to better prospects for them and the environment,
>argues Michel Pimbert in the Green Room, is giving them more control
>over what they do.
>
>- It is simply unacceptable to allow over 850 million people go to
>bed hungry in a world that produces more than enough food for all
>
>
>Farmers and other citizens in various parts of the world are engaging
>in a major effort to change the nature of agriculture.
>
>The key phrase is "food sovereignty"; and this weekend, many of the
>interested parties are gathering for a conference in Mali, one of two
>countries (the other being Bolivia) which have adopted it as their
>overarching policy framework for food and farming.
>
>Food sovereignty is all about ensuring that farmers, rather than
>transnational corporations, are in control of what they farm and how
>they farm it; ensuring too that communities have the right to define
>their own agricultural, pastoral, labour, fishing, food and land
>policies to suit their own ecological, social, economic and cultural
>circumstances.
>
>Why is it needed? From the social point of view, because everyone has
>an unconditional human right to food, and it is simply unacceptable
>to allow over 850 million people go to bed hungry in a world that
>produces more than enough food for all.
>
>On the environmental side, industrial farming damages our planet's
>life support systems in a number of ways:
>
>
>* it is a major contributor to global warming through intensive use
>of fossil fuels for fertilisers, agrochemicals, production,
>transport, processing, refrigeration and retailing
>* agrochemical nutrient pollution causes biological "dead zones" in
>areas as diverse as the Gulf of Mexico, the Baltic Sea and the coasts
>of India and China
>* human activity now produces more nitrogen than all natural
>processes combined
>* crop and livestock genetic diversity has been lost through the
>spread of industrial monocultures, reducing resilience in the face of
>climate and other changes
>
>The progress of this growing food sovereignty movement could have
>profound implications for scientific research, politics, trade and
>the twin curses of poverty and environmental degradation.
>
>Towards sustainable agriculture
>
>Within the food sovereignty approach, the environmental ills outlined
>above are avoided by developing production systems that mimic the
>biodiversity levels and functioning of natural ecosystems.
>
>
>
>Eco-farming helps poor
>
>These systems seek to combine the modern science of ecology with the
>experiential knowledge of farmers and indigenous peoples.
>
>Combinations of indigenous and modern methods lead to more
>environmentally sustainable agriculture, as well as reducing
>dependence on expensive external inputs, reducing the cost-price
>squeeze and debt trap in which the world's farmers are increasingly
>caught.
>
>Ecological agriculture has been shown to be productive, economic and
>sustainable for farmers, whether their external inputs are low or
>high.
>
>Scientists recently reported that a series of large-scale
>experimental projects around the world using agro-ecological methods
>such as crop rotation, intercropping, natural pest control, use of
>mulches and compost, terracing, nutrient concentration, water
>harvesting and management of micro-environments yielded spectacular
>results.
>
>For example, in southern Brazil, the use of cover crops to increase
>soil fertility and water retention allowed 400,000 farmers to raise
>maize and soybean yields by more than 60%. Farmers earned more as
>beneficial soil biodiversity was regenerated.
>
>Staying in control
>
>Food sovereignty is not against trade and science. But it does argue
>for a fu

[Biofuel] Corporate America Fights Back

[Frank Navarrete]

http://news.ufl.edu/2007/02/26/corporate-america-fights-back-oped/

Corporate America Fights Back
Filed under Op-Eds  on Monday, February 26,
2007.

*This op-ed appeared February 26 in The Washington Post.*

By: Michael Seigel
*Michael Seigel is a professor at the University of Florida's Levin College
of Law. He serves on the Attorney-Client Privilege Task Force, which is
examining whether the Florida Bar should take a position on this matter. The
views expressed here are his own.*

Last time the public was tuned in, the Justice Department was vigorously
prosecuting corporate giants such as Enron for massive frauds committed
during the waning days of the stock bubble. Assisted by the Sarbanes-Oxley
Act, government lawyers were racking up victories in the battle against
white-collar crime. One recent highlight was the October sentencing of
former Enron chief executive Jeffrey Skilling to 24 years in prison.

Now that the public's attention has shifted to matters such as Iraq,
however, corporate America has launched a counterattack. Its goal is to
derail the Justice Department's efforts to maintain a heightened level of
white-collar criminal enforcement. Its success thus far starkly illustrates
how power and money influence our criminal justice system.

Big business, represented primarily by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, could
not attack white-collar criminal enforcement head-on. Instead, it enlisted
the aid of its lawyers, including the American Bar Association and the
Association of Corporate Counsel, in a more oblique assault. Their strategy
was to mount an all-out offensive against a seemingly obscure trend: the
Justice Department's increasing insistence that corporations waive their
attorney-client privilege as part of their cooperation with government
investigators.

Through experience, government lawyers have learned that the efficiency of
white-collar criminal prosecution can be significantly improved when
companies facing indictment cooperate and provide relevant information. This
way, prosecutors can get to the bottom of complex criminality and promptly
indict those responsible. However, unlike an ordinary criminal who
cooperates by telling what he knows, a corporation only "knows" what its
employees tell it. Often, information relevant to a prosecution has been
gathered by the corporation's counsel. Therefore, to cooperate, the
corporation must waive its attorney-client privilege.

In a January 2003 document known as the "Thompson Memorandum," Justice told
its prosecutors to consider a corporation's willingness to waive its
attorney-client privilege in determining whether it ought to be indicted.
This is where big business and its lawyers aimed their attack. Treating
attorney-client privilege as if it were a sacrosanct American institution,
akin to freedom of speech, they claimed that Justice was unfairly using its
tremendous power to coerce corporations into privilege waivers. The
resultant erosion of the privilege would be catastrophic, they contended.
This tactic even garnered the support of the American Civil Liberties Union,
and together the various lobbying groups formed the Coalition to Preserve
the Attorney-Client Privilege.

The coalition's claims are hugely overstated. The government does not
"coerce" corporations to waive their attorney-client privilege any more than
it "coerces" drug dealers to waive their Fifth Amendment privilege against
self-incrimination when they agree to testify. Moreover, the attorney-client
privilege is not an end unto itself but a means to an end. Its main purpose
is to encourage individuals to be candid with their lawyers.

The coalition says that the prospect of a privilege waiver will cause
corporate employees and officers to clam up, eviscerating internal
investigations and compliance programs and resulting in more corporate
crime. But employees of corporations have known since the Supreme Court's
1981 decision in Upjohn Co. v. U.S. that when they speak to corporate
counsel, the decision of whether to keep the conversation confidential
resides with the corporation, not with them. The necessity and complexity of
legal compliance leads most employees to talk to counsel nonetheless. Little
indicates that the recent increase in privilege waivers has upset this
balance.

So the Justice Department simply carried on. But it underestimated the power
of the forces allied against it. Through intense lobbying efforts, the
coalition persuaded Congress to conduct hearings. The same politicians who
expressed outrage at corporate fraud a few years back now expressed outrage
at the government's vigorous pursuit of it. Eventually, Sen. Arlen Specter
(R-Pa.) introduced a bill that would prohibit federal prosecutors from
seeking privilege waivers or considering a corporation's willingness to
waive privilege voluntarily when evaluating its cooperation. Realizing that
it was in danger of losing, Justice issued the "McNulty Memorandum" on Dec.
12. 

Re: [Biofuel] Farmer power the key to green advance

[Frank Navarrete]

Well Keith, it seems Journey to Forever's prime objective is hitting the
news stands.  I believe your site probably played more than a small part in
the emergence of these ideas.

Best,

Frank


On 2/25/07, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6387975.stm
BBC NEWS | Science/Nature |
23 February 2007, 11:42 GMT

Farmer power the key to green advance


VIEWPOINT
Michel Pimbert

Behind several kinds of environmental damage lurks the hand of the
farmer. The key to better prospects for them and the environment,
argues Michel Pimbert in the Green Room, is giving them more control
over what they do.

- It is simply unacceptable to allow over 850 million people go to
bed hungry in a world that produces more than enough food for all


Farmers and other citizens in various parts of the world are engaging
in a major effort to change the nature of agriculture.

The key phrase is "food sovereignty"; and this weekend, many of the
interested parties are gathering for a conference in Mali, one of two
countries (the other being Bolivia) which have adopted it as their
overarching policy framework for food and farming.

Food sovereignty is all about ensuring that farmers, rather than
transnational corporations, are in control of what they farm and how
they farm it; ensuring too that communities have the right to define
their own agricultural, pastoral, labour, fishing, food and land
policies to suit their own ecological, social, economic and cultural
circumstances.

Why is it needed? From the social point of view, because everyone has
an unconditional human right to food, and it is simply unacceptable
to allow over 850 million people go to bed hungry in a world that
produces more than enough food for all.

On the environmental side, industrial farming damages our planet's
life support systems in a number of ways:


* it is a major contributor to global warming through intensive use
of fossil fuels for fertilisers, agrochemicals, production,
transport, processing, refrigeration and retailing
* agrochemical nutrient pollution causes biological "dead zones" in
areas as diverse as the Gulf of Mexico, the Baltic Sea and the coasts
of India and China
* human activity now produces more nitrogen than all natural processes
combined
* crop and livestock genetic diversity has been lost through the
spread of industrial monocultures, reducing resilience in the face of
climate and other changes

The progress of this growing food sovereignty movement could have
profound implications for scientific research, politics, trade and
the twin curses of poverty and environmental degradation.

Towards sustainable agriculture

Within the food sovereignty approach, the environmental ills outlined
above are avoided by developing production systems that mimic the
biodiversity levels and functioning of natural ecosystems.



Eco-farming helps poor

These systems seek to combine the modern science of ecology with the
experiential knowledge of farmers and indigenous peoples.

Combinations of indigenous and modern methods lead to more
environmentally sustainable agriculture, as well as reducing
dependence on expensive external inputs, reducing the cost-price
squeeze and debt trap in which the world's farmers are increasingly
caught.

Ecological agriculture has been shown to be productive, economic and
sustainable for farmers, whether their external inputs are low or
high.

Scientists recently reported that a series of large-scale
experimental projects around the world using agro-ecological methods
such as crop rotation, intercropping, natural pest control, use of
mulches and compost, terracing, nutrient concentration, water
harvesting and management of micro-environments yielded spectacular
results.

For example, in southern Brazil, the use of cover crops to increase
soil fertility and water retention allowed 400,000 farmers to raise
maize and soybean yields by more than 60%. Farmers earned more as
beneficial soil biodiversity was regenerated.

Staying in control

Food sovereignty is not against trade and science. But it does argue
for a fundamental shift away from "business as usual", emphasising
the need to support domestic markets and small-scale agricultural
production based on resilient farming systems rich in biological and
cultural diversity.

Networks of local food systems are favoured because they reduce the
distance between producers and consumers, limiting food miles and
enhancing citizen control and democratic decision-making.

Can food sovereignity lead farmers to greener pastures?

Equitable access to land and other resources is vital, because a
significant cause of hunger and environmental degradation is local
people's loss of rights to access and control natural resources such
as land, water, trees and seeds.

This severely reduces their incentive to conserve the environment;
the displacement of farming peoples from fertile lands to steep

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

[Frank Navarrete]

Hi Robert and Keith,

"I know. It happened to me when I was 23 "

It happened to me, too.  I think "it" is exiting the allegorical cave,
seeing the truth and not turning away from it.  It then becomes a burden and
a responsibility to uphold, but ultimately, the *only *thing that matters.

"So the gap grew, as there was more and
more I didn't and couldn't talk about."

Aye, there's the rub!  What no one wants to do is talk about the truth if it
undermines the premise by which they justify their beliefs.  Everyone should
talk about everything!  I think you just have to endure Robert.  Keep
bringing up these controversial points of view with those around you, and
soon enough maybe they will sink in.  It's lonely being objective, but truth
is our highest responsibility.  No Christian could argue that point with
you!

Thanks to both of you,

Frank
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Re: [Biofuel] FIU to Study Alternative Ethanol Technology

[Frank Navarrete]

And how unfortunate for the Everglades cause.

Best

Frank


On 2/24/07, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>FIU to Study Alternative Ethanol Technology
>
>http://www.alternate-energy.net/N/news.php?detail=n1172284041.news

How nice for Big Sugar. Alfonso Fanjul and all.

http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg26612.html
[biofuel] Big Sugar
22 Jul 2003

Best

Keith


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Re: [Biofuel] U.S. Military Is The Largest Consumer Of Oil On Earth

[Frank Navarrete]

owards finding solutions. For instance, the
Department of Defense is committed to achieving the energy reduction
goals set forth in the Energy Policy Act of 2005, Executive Order
13123 "Greening the Government through Efficient Energy Management,"
and the new (January 2007) Executive Order 13423 "Strengthening
Federal Environmental, Energy, and Transportation Management." To
that end several efforts are underway in an increasing pace and
aggressiveness.

The bad news is that most of those efforts concentrate mostly on
reducing energy use in buildings and facilities, whose share in total
DOD energy consumption is 25%, whereas mobility energy use accounts
for 75%.

Figure 2: Fuel shares in DOD buildings and facilities, and in total
energy consumption

Source: DoD Annual Energy management Report FY 2006, GSA Federal
Fleet Report FY 2006. Figures include exempt facilities and fleet
vehicles.

In buildings and facilities it is electricity that accounts for
almost half of the total energy use. Oil accounts for only 12%.
Overall, however, with its 77% share oil is the major fuel consumed
by DOD in 2006. Amongst the oil types, jet fuel followed by
distillate and heavy fuel oil make up the majority.

Figure 3: US military oil consumption by type


Source: DESC Fact book (several issues), EIA Annual Energy Review
(several issues), Federal Energy Management Program Annual Report to
Congress FY2005 and FY2006, General Services Administration Federal
Fleet Report for Fiscal Year 2006, DoD Annual Energy Management
Report for Fiscal Year 2006.


Searching for solutions, developing alternative fuels, working
towards mitigation, reducing energy costs, increasing renewable power
supplies, researching new power transmission, advanced battery as
well as propulsion technologies, decreasing energy dependency, and
increasing energy security etc are surely nice objectives that should
be pursued and promoted. But with moderation and by not forgetting
the most effective tools such as efficiency, conservation and change
in habits.

More importantly, DoD should get its priorities right for its energy
strategy (if there exists any) and should concentrate its efforts
more on where the biggest pain is. That pain is oil. The time has
come to wake up because Peak Oil is around the corner and now time is
oil.

Footnotes

1 2006 US Air Force Almanac.

2 2006 US Navy Almanac.

3 The Army's Future Combat Systems Program and Alternatives.
Congressional Budget Office, the United States Congress. August 2006.
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/74xx/doc7461/08-02-Army.pdf

4 Including commercially and GSA leased vehicles, but excluding
vehicles leased less than 60 days. General Services Administration,
Federal Fleet Report - Fiscal Year 2006.

5 The core official data sources are: Department of Defense's annual
energy management report; Federal Energy Management Program's annual
report to Congress; EIA/DOE's Annual Energy Review; and DoD Defense
Energy Support Center's Factbook. The former three publications are
more or less consistent with each other (after some modifications
such as adding fleet vehicle oil consumption to non-fleet vehicles
etc). But the latter publication is the most important one, not an
easy read though.

6 For example Kuwait supplied US military in Iraq with "fuel at no
cost. Later, the Kuwaitis sought nominal payment for fuel supplied to
US forces remaining in Iraq after Saddam's ouster." Agence France
Presse, "Kuwait and U.S. Locked in Dispute Over Fuel Payment," Arab
News, March 17, 2005.
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=4§ion=0&article=60548&d=17&m=3&y=2005

7 Note that there are 100,000 contractors working for the Pentagon in
Iraq.

8 The charts on Senator's site need an update.

9 Major Gen Frank R. Faykes, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Budget,
Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Air Force, for Financial
Management, Comptroller, "Inside the Air Force Budget", Air & Space
Conference and Technology Exposition, Washington, D.C., September 26,
2006.
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=4§ion=0&article=60548&d=17&m=3&y=2005

10 Testimony of Milton R. Copulos, President of National Defense
Council Foundation, before the Senate Foreign relations Committee,
March 30, 2006.

11 Defense Energy Support Center, Fact Book FY2005.

12 More Capable Warfighting Through Reduced Fuel Burden, Office of
the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and
Logistics, The Defense Science Board Task Force on Improving Fuel
Efficiency of Weapons Platforms, January 2001.
http://www.acq.osd.mil/dsb/reports/fuel.pdf

~~~ Editorial Notes ~~~

See also the 6 February post of Sohbet's blog Fill up the B-52 with
Synthetic Fuel, about the progress of US Air Force trials with
synthetic aviation fuel - and no, its not cheaper. -LJ
http://karbuz.blogspot.com/2007/02/fill-up-b-52-with-synthetic-fu

Re: [Biofuel] Marijuana Called Top U.S. Cash Crop

[Frank Navarrete]

Maybe we can start making paper out of it again and save some forests while
were at it.

On 2/14/07, M&K DuPree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Bring it on...

- Original Message -
From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Marijuana Called Top U.S. Cash Crop


> So let's legalize it,, knock out the drug gangs, and tax it, using the
> taxes to fund rehab programs for those who want to stop.
>
>
> M&K DuPree wrote:
>
>>LOL...Courtney is a typical DEA idiot and a complete BONEHEAD...OF
COURSE
>>THERE ARE NO MOM-POP BONG SHOPS...YOU'VE ALREADY ARRESTED THEM!  And, of
>>course, if it were legalized, then you would take the "Mexican drug
>>trafficking group(s)" out of the equation, but this makes the argument
too
>>complicated for this utter numbskull.  Mike DuPree PS HONK FOR HEMP!!
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: 
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:56 AM
>>Subject: [Biofuel] Marijuana Called Top U.S. Cash Crop
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>See "Invisible farming":
>>>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html#invis
>>>
>>>---
>>>
>>>Marijuana Production in the United States (2006)
>>>by Jon Gettman
>>>
>>>Full text online.
>>>http://www.drugscience.org/bcr/
>>>
>>>Entire Report (356 kb pdf)
>>>http://www.drugscience.org/Archive/bcr2/MJCropReport_2006.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=2735017&page=1
>>>ABC News:
>>>February 14, 2007 | Local News and Weather
>>>
>>>Marijuana Called Top U.S. Cash Crop
>>>
>>>Marijuana Takes the Pot as Most Valuable Cash Crop in the Country
>>>
>>>Marijuana is the top cash crop in 12 states and among the top three
>>>cash crops in 30, according to a new study. (AP Photo )
>>>
>>>By NITYA VENKATARAMAN
>>>
>>>Dec. 18, 2006
>>>
>>>Weeding through the value of the nation's cash crops, a study
>>>released today states that marijuana is the U.S.'s most valuable crop
>>>and promotes the drug's legalization and taxation.
>>>
>>>Drug enforcement officials say the equation is not that simple.
>>>
>>>The report, "Marijuana Production in the United States," by marijuana
>>>policy researcher Jon Gettman, concludes that despite massive
>>>eradication efforts at the hands of the federal government,
>>>"marijuana has become a pervasive and ineradicable part of the
>>>national economy."
>>>
>>>In the report, Gettman, a marijuana-reform activist and leader of the
>>>Coalition for Rescheduling Cannabis, champions a system of legal
>>>regulation.
>>>
>>>Contrasting government figures for traditional crops - like corn and
>>>wheat - against the study's projections for marijuana production, the
>>>report cites marijuana as the top cash crop in 12 states and among
>>>the top three cash crops in 30.
>>>
>>>The study estimates that marijuana production, at a value of $35.8
>>>billion, exceeds the combined value of corn ($23.3 billion) and wheat
>>>($7.5 billion).
>>>
>>>Pot Tax?
>>>
>>>To activists for marijuana legalization, the study confirms a
>>>position they've held for years, and uses government stats to support
>>>their claim.
>>>
>>>"The fact that marijuana is America's No. 1 cash crop after more than
>>>three decades of governmental eradication efforts is the clearest
>>>illustration that our present marijuana laws are a complete failure,"
>>>says Rob Kampia, executive director of the Marijuana Policy Project
>>>in Washington D.C., a group that focuses on removing criminal
>>>penalties for marijuana use.
>>>
>>>Kampia, whose comments were included in the study's press release,
>>>adds, "Our nation's laws guarantee that 100 percent of the proceeds
>>>from marijuana sales go to unregulated criminals rather than to
>>>legitimate businesses that pay taxes to support schools, police and
>>>roads."
>>>
>>>A 2005 analysis by Harvard visiting professor Jeffrey Miron estimates
>>>that if the United States legalized marijuana, the country would save
>>>$7.7 billion in law enforcement costs and could generated as much as
>>>$6.2 billion annually if marijuana were taxed like alcohol or tobacco.
>>>
>>>Miron's report on the costs of marijuana prohibition was signed by
>>>more than 500 leading economists, most notably the late Nobel
>>>laureate Milton Friedman, who served as an economist in both the
>>>Nixon and Reagan administrations.
>>>
>>>The Dangers of Legalization
>>>
>>>Aside from the health debate over legalizing marijuana, Garrison
>>>Courtney, spokesman for the Drug Enforcement Agency, says groups that
>>>advocate its taxation sometimes paint too rosy a picture.
>>>
>>>"It's still a drug," Courtney says. "Just because it's a good cash
>>>crop doesn't mean you should legalize and tax it."
>>>
>>>"It's not these cute mom-and-pop bong shops anymore," Courtney
>>>continued. "It's violent drug-trafficking groups that are doing all
>>>these grows."
>>>
>>>Local marijuana growers, he says, are the tentacles of international
>>>drug-trafficking organizations that bri

Re: [Biofuel] The Anti-Empire Report

[Frank Navarrete]

America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without
civilization in between.
Oscar Wilde

Only to be imprisoned in "civilized" England for being homosexual and forced
to do hard labor which led to his death.  Let's not fool ourselves into
thinking that any Western nations have a civil history.

Frank



On 2/4/07, Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The historian Toynbee said something similar. He said America was the only
western country to decline before it reached its peak.

Kirk

*Jason& Katie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:

America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without
civilization in between.
Oscar Wilde



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[Biofuel] Food Sovereignty

[Frank Navarrete]

From Grain http://www.grain.org/seedling/?id=456



Nyéléni – for food sovereignty

*GRAIN*

*"Food Sovereignty is the right of peoples, communities, and countries to
define their own agricultural, pastoral, labour, fishing, food and land
policies which are ecologically, socially, economically and culturally
appropriate to their unique circumstances. It includes the true right to
food and to produce food, which means that all people have the right to
safe, nutritious and culturally appropriate food and to food-producing
resources and the ability to sustain themselves and their societies."
From: Food Sovereignty: A Right For All, Political Statement of the NGO/CSO
Forum for Food Sovereignty. Rome, June 2002*

Nyéléni 2007 – World Forum on Food Sovereignty will be held in Mali on 23–27
February 2007. The meeting will bring together 600 delegates from five
continents to reaffirm the right to food sovereignty and to begin an
international drive to reverse the worldwide decline in local community
production of food. The forum has been organised by an alliance of social
movements – including Friends of the Earth International, Via Campesina, the
World March of Women, the Network of Farmers' and Producers' Organisations
of West Africa (ROPPA), the World Forum of Fish Harvesters and Fish Workers
(WFF) and the World Forum of Fisher Peoples (WFFP) – who took a deliberate
decision to hold it in Africa (http://nyeleni2007.org/).

Rural Africa has been devastated by three decades of free trade and
anti-peasant policies imposed on the continent's governments by the World
Bank, the International Monetary Fund, the World Trade Organisation (WTO),
the United States and the European Union. Today thousands of rural and urban
families suffer from hunger, despite the continent's abundance of natural
resources. But the fightback has begun. Mali, where the conference is to be
held, is one of the first countries in the world to have made food
sovereignty a national policy priority.

As becomes clear in our interviews with two leading activists – Mamadou
Goïta from Mali, and P.V. Satheesh from India – different strategies are
being adopted in different parts of the world in the fight for food
sovereignty. Yet campaigners worldwide are united by the common goal of
recovering for local people the right to decide what food they should
cultivate and what methods they should use. Even though the way food
sovereignty is implemented may vary widely, its successful practice is easy
to identify (see boxes on Bangladesh and Peru on pages 16 and 17).

*Mamadou Goïta*

Mamadou Goïta, a social economist, is executive director of the Institute
for Research and the Promotion of Alternatives in Development (IPAR) in
Mali, West Africa.

*When was the term 'food sovereignty' first coined?*

It has been used since 1996, when people for the first time realised they
needed a new concept. We became aware that the term "food security", which
we had used until then, was not adequate and that the international
community was manipulating the term to fool us. We realised that the giant
food corporations were taking advantage of the WTO negotiations on trade in
food, and of all the talk about food aid, to gain control over food
production worldwide and to make everyone dependent on them for food. In
Mali we realised that the food we were eating was starting to come from all
over the world – from western countries, from India, and so on. We realised
that we were being hoodwinked, that we were being told that, just because we
had enough food to eat, we had food security. But this was not the case.
Corporations might even make food cheaper, but this did not mean that we had
real food security. If there were to be a dispute with the country that was
supplying us with food, the trade could stop. What would happen then? Our
population could even go hungry. There is also the term "food sufficiency".
We use this to describe a country that is self-sufficient in the production
of food. But this term is not what we need either, for it isn't precise: it
doesn't tell us whether the food is available to all the population or what
kind of food is being produced.

Food security and self-sufficiency are technical terms. Small farmers felt
they needed a broader concept that brought a political dimension to the
discussion about food.

*So how do you define food sovereignty?*

Food sovereignty has two elements. First, it means the right of every
person, of every group, of every nation, to choose what it eats. This is
very important. To allow the population, on the basis of its cultural,
spiritual and ethnic heritage, to choose what it wants to eat. And second it
means that people have the right to decide freely how they will produce what
they want to eat, without being influenced by other nations or outside
institutions. They have the right to decide, according to their culture and
their beliefs, with whom and in what way they will produce their food. And
when I say food, I me

Re: [Biofuel] Sharing Sustainable Solutions

[Frank Navarrete]

Hi Keith,

"Oh well. The more the merrier I suppose, never mind how (which is
also how some people feel when bits of their website get ripped of
and sold at eBay)"

I respect your big picture view of things and I think that it is required of
us in order to compensate for the smallness of many (if not most) people.  I
know it still hurts to see your efforts uncredited, though.

Best to you,

Frank
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Re: [Biofuel] Sharing Sustainable Solutions

[Frank Navarrete]

I was wondering why Journey to Forever wasn't included amongst their links.


On 1/27/07, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>http://www.bagelhole.org/

Um... sharing them perhaps, but only after "borrowing" them from
elsewhere, without acknowledgement, in some cases at least. This for
instance:
http://www.bagelhole.org/?page=275
Bagelhole.org Information Center for Low-tech sustainability

>> > That comes straight from our site, without a please nor a thankyou
>> > nor even an acknowledgement or a link. It's a straightforward lift,
>> > graphics, scans, layout, everything. But they've left out the second
>> > page. Couldn't even do it properly. Go here:
>> >
>> > MOTHER's Waste Oil Heater
>> >
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/me4.html
>> >
>> > Instructions in a nutshell -- with photographs
>> >
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/me5.html

Bagelhole has since added permission from MEN at the end, and Journey
to Forever's layout and typography have been dumped, along with the
diagrams, and the Table of Contents of the Mother Earth Alcohol Fuel
manual has been added, since it's linked at the end of the JtF page,
but without any content or link to the content. Pretty useless.

I don't really care much, as with the folks who rip off this stuff
from our site and other sites and sell it at eBay. It's just the
principle, or lack of it. Naah.

Best

Keith


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[Biofuel] What Iraqis Want

[Frank Navarrete]

The Iraqi people have multicultural tensions -- especially between Shia and
Sunni groups.  Perhaps this plan is the beginning of a national identity
which will allow them to be a peacefully independent nation.

See  http://www.progressivegovernment.org/page.php?name=reconciliation for
the full article.



Iraq Reconciliation Plan

*Editor's note:**Published 10/10/06 by Dal LaMagna from video footage edited
by Benjamin Ernst, text edited by Beverly Marcus, translation by Raed Jarrar
and Aseel Albanna. No copyright, please distribute*

*Overview and Purpose*

The Iraq Reconciliation Plan resulted from a meeting of U.S. peace
activists, led by Medea Benjamin and Raed Jarrar of Global Exchange and
Jodie Evans and Gael Murphy of CODEPINK, with Iraqi members of Parliament
(MPs), sheiks, and torture survivors. The Iraqi MPs represented 185 (130
Shia, 44 Sunni, 11 secular) of 275 members of Iraq's Parliament. The
meetings were held in Amman, Jordan, on August 2-3, 2006.  *
*

*The Reconciliation Plan documents how the Iraqis, in their own words,
propose to solve their country's crisis. *The Plan consists of 10 key
points, captured via extensive interviews with the Iraqi participants.

Included here are:

  - The list of 10 Reconciliation Plan points voiced by Iraqi
  participants with links to video and transcript.
  - A list of all meeting participants, along with their affiliations
  and photographs.
  - A section on each point that provides relevant supporting
  quotations, identified by source. All quotations are from videotapes of the
  meeting. They are presented unedited, as translated.

To download a PDF version of the document, click
here
.
To read transcripts of the conversations, click
here
.
To view video of all the conversations on one webpage, click
here.


--
*Iraq Reconciliation Plan: Ten Points*

  1. *End the occupation of Iraq. *Video and transcript of Point
1
  2. *Create a timetable for the withdrawal of American troops that is
  synchronized with the implementation of the Iraq reconciliation plan.
  *Video and transcript of Point
2
  3. *Disband the militias created after the occupation. *Video and
  transcript of Point 3
  
  4. *Revise Bremer's Orders and allow the Iraqis to rebuild their army*
  *. *Video and transcript of Point 4
  
  5. *Rewrite the Iraqi Constitution. *Video and transcript of Point 5
  
  6. *Keep Iraq as one state and do not partition into multiple states.
  *Video and transcript of Point 6
  
  7. *Begin the promised reconstruction of Iraq. Employ Iraqis and not
  foreign workers or contractors. *Video and transcript of Point 7
  
  8. *Acknowledge Iraqis' right to resist the U.S. occupation, negotiate
  with the resistance, and give amnesty to Iraqis resisting the occupation.
  *Video and transcript of Point 8
  
  9. *Investigate all the crimes that were committed by the new Iraqi
  Government and by the occupation forces in Iraq. *Video and transcript
  of Point 9
  
  10. *Make a fair distribution of oil income and natural resources. *Video
  and transcript of Point 10
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Re: [Biofuel] Use Of 'Precautionary Principle' For Chemicals Is Growing

[Frank Navarrete]

Whereas a criminal can have the defense of "innocent until proven guilty",
when it comes to chemical toxicity it really should be reversed -- "toxic
until proven safe".  To make any change in policy fail-safe, however, such
as REACH proposes to do, the testing for toxicity or danger of any chemical
should be done by non-interested labs -- labs not on the payroll of the big
cartels -- a sort of Carter Institute of chemical approval.  Shouldn't all
public policy be subject to checks and balances anyhow?

On 1/17/07, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


From: Risk Policy Report, Jan. 16, 2007
[Prin
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Use Of 'Precautionary Principle' For Chemicals Is Growing

Environmentalists and other public health advocates say recent
movements by states, businesses and international regulatory bodies
are signs of increased use of the so-called
'precautionary principle'
-- efforts that come as Democrats are raising key questions about
federal toxics laws.

Activists say the precautionary principle is beginning to emerge in a
variety of political and commercial arenas, including efforts by
businesses to reduce potential toxic exposure; the growth of green
chemistry programs; and, to a lesser degree, a recently adopted
European chemical regulatory program. The precautionary principle
places the burden on those advocating new policies or products to
prove the efforts will not cause public harm. For example, the
chemical industry would be burdened with proving a chemical is safe
before introducing its use.

The chemical industry remains the primary focus of the precautionary
principle, as environmentalists argue federal laws are insufficient
to regulate chemicals that may pose a threat to human health.
Activists say it takes EPA years or decades to regulate harmful
chemicals, because the agency must first prove the chemicals pose a
health threat. They cite lead, mercury and other well-defined hazards
as examples where the agency has struggled to eliminate hazardous
uses. In particular, environmentalists say the Toxic Substances
Control Act (TSCA) is problematic. The law, which has not been
updated since Congress passed it in 1976, may face intense scrutiny
from Democrats who are promising oversight of toxics issues.

The concept of the precautionary principle ruffles chemical industry
officials, who say it is ill-defined and poses unnecessary burdens on
the industry. Officials argue TSCA is sufficient to regulate
chemicals and also note that industry voluntarily supplies data to
EPA on a number of the most highly-used chemicals in the United
States. Given that information, EPA has enough data to screen for
chemicals that may pose a threat, industry officials say.

Environmentalists, however, say the precautionary principle is
already being successfully applied. For example, the Democratic
governors of Maine and Michigan issued executive orders in 2006
promoting "green chemistry," or the substitution of less toxic forms
of chemicals for those that may pose health risks. Environmentalists
say the efforts represent a form of the precautionary principle being
actively applied, and note the results could generate significant
economic benefits for those states. Other states, including
Massachusetts and New York, are considering similar programs. In
addition, California is considering a legislative approach to green
chemistry, though it has yet to be unveiled. (Risk Policy Report,
Nov. 7, p1).

In another example, environmentalists cite San Francisco's recent
decision to ban phthalates in children's toys as a regulatory driver
for the precautionary principle. The city voted to ban the chemicals,
which are used to soften plastics, based on concerns that the
chemicals may cause reproductive harm. But industry and retailers say
the risks are minimal, and filed suit to block the ban. If the ban
sticks, toy manufacturers may be forced to examine other alternatives
(Risk Policy Report, Oct. 31, p2).Some businesses are also taking
steps to reduce toxics in their products, which environmentalists say
is another application of the precautionary principle. For instance,
some retailers are leaning on suppliers to provide furniture, medical
supplies or other products that do not contain chemicals suspected of
causing health problems.

In the international arena, the European Union (EU) adopted a new
chemical regulatory program known as Registration, Evaluation &
Authorization of Chemicals (REACH) in late 2006. REACH is aimed at
requiring data on most chemicals produced or sold in the EU, and
requires safety testing for certain chemicals before they can be used.

Environmentalists are divided on whether the program is an example of
the precautionary principle. Some argue it is one of the greatest
triumphs of the principle, while others argue it is simply a more
stringent regulatory program than that of the United S

[Biofuel] March on Washington

[Frank Navarrete]

I can't make it -- hopefully lots of people can:

http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=3468


Help Mobilize for Jan. 27-29! Plus, Latest Details on the Demo

MARCH ON WASHINGTON TO END THE WAR!
Saturday, January 27
Assemble 11:00AM on the Mall between 3rd and 7th Streets
March kicks off at 1:00PM
Transportation information
Housing board
Grassroots Lobby Day -- Monday, Jan. 29
Spread the word!
Make a donation

Momentum is beginning to build for the politically urgent mobilization on
Saturday, Jan. 27th. There are already more than 500 endorsements for the
demonstration and we are hearing from groups around the country that they
are organizing to get people to Washington, DC. In order to send the
strongest, clearest message to the new Congress we are working hard to have
the largest turnout possible.

And we have set another important goal for this mobilization: We want to
have at least one person from each of the 435 Congressional districts
marching on Jan. 27th to help represent the truly nationwide peace majority.

We are inviting you to sign up to be a local coordinator for people coming
from your area to Washington, DC. Being a local coordinator means doing the
things we hope you are already doing -- spreading the word and encouraging
people to come to DC, helping to arrange buses, car caravans or rideshares,
hosting a sign-making party -- but it also will mean following up with
people in your area who will find you through the coordinator's listing on
our website.

Many of you are already working on some or all of these activities -- and
more! Now we've set up this system to help people in your area connect with
your efforts. By signing up as a local coordinator, you will be putting your
congressional district on our map that will show that folks are coming from
all around the country to stand up for peace!

Sign up and/or find out more information about being a local coordinator

Ideas and resources for local coordinators


Once you sign up, your location and info will show up on this map and people
will be able to "RSVP" for whatever you are organizing (car caravan,
sign-making party, etc.). You will then be able to log in and change or
update your listing as needed, and also contact the people who have RSVP'd
for your listing. This is a great way to reach new people in your area, to
build your group's membership if you have one, or even to start a new one.


If you want to know more about the role of the coordinators before signing
up, please get in touch with either Susan Chenelle (susan at
unitedforpeace.org) or Leslie Kauffman (lak at unitedforpeace.org); both can
be reached by phone at 212-868-5545.

If you have other creative ideas for organizing people to come to DC that we
haven't listed here or in our materials on the website, please let Susan or
Leslie know and we'll share them in future bulletins to member groups.



LOGISTICAL INFORMATION

Many of the details of the January mobilization are still being worked out,
so please keep checking the UFPJ website for updates. Here is the
information so far:


TRANSPORTATION | HOUSING | LOBBY DAY
VOLUNTEER | FLYERS, ETC.
BUS TICKETS FROM NYC TO DC


LOGISTICS: Assemble on the Mall,
between 3rd and 7th Streets, at 11 am.
March will kick off at 1pm.
More details coming soon!



If you are organizing buses or can offer any kind of transportation to DC,
please post the details on our ride board ASAP. (Click here for tips on
organizing buses.)


We also have a housing board and info on affordable lodging in the DC area.

And, of course, we hope everyone will make whatever financial contribution
you can to help make this an historic mobilization.


Visit www.unitedforpeace.org for further resources and updates on the
January 27-29 mobilization. Together we can end this war!
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Re: [Biofuel] NSA and Windows connection

[Frank Navarrete]

Looks like the link to remove the second key has been disabled.  Any way to
see those instructions?

On 1/15/07, Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




 http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/5/5263/1.html

   How NSA access was built into Windows Duncan Campbell 04.09.1999
Careless mistake reveals subversion of Windows by NSA. [image: 
download]
A CARELESS mistake by Microsoft programmers has revealed that special
access codes prepared by the US National Security Agency have been secretly
built into Windows. The NSA access system is built into every version of the
Windows operating system now in use, except early releases of Windows 95
(and its predecessors). The discovery comes close on the heels of the
revelations earlier this year that another US software giant, Lotus, had
built an NSA "help information" [image: [local] 
]trapdoorinto its Notes system, and that 
security functions on other software systems
had been deliberately crippled.
The first discovery of the new NSA access system was made two years ago by
British researcher Dr Nicko van Someren. But it was only a few weeks ago
when a second researcher rediscovered the access system. With it, he found
the evidence linking it to NSA.
Computer security specialists have been aware for two years that unusual
features are contained inside a standard Windows software "driver" used for
security and encryption functions. The driver, called ADVAPI.DLL, enables
and controls a range of security functions. If you use Windows, you will
find it in the C:\Windows\system directory of your computer.
ADVAPI.DLL works closely with Microsoft Internet Explorer, but will only
run crypographic functions that the US governments allows Microsoft to
export. That information is bad enough news, from a European point of view.
Now, it turns out that ADVAPI will run special programmes inserted and
controlled by NSA. As yet, no-one knows what these programmes are, or what
they do.
Dr Nicko van Someren reported at last year's Crypto 98 conference that he
had disassembled the ADVADPI driver. He found it contained two different
keys. One was used by Microsoft to control the cryptographic functions
enabled in Windows, in compliance with US export regulations. But the reason
for building in a second key, or who owned it, remained a mystery.
A second key Two weeks ago, a US security company came up with conclusive
evidence that the second key belongs to NSA. Like Dr van Someren, Andrew
Fernandez, chief scientist with Cryptonym of Morrisville, North Carolina,
had been probing the presence and significance of the two keys. Then he
checked the latest Service Pack release for Windows NT4, [image:
[extern] ]Service Pack 
5.
He found that Microsoft's developers had failed to remove or "strip" the
debugging symbols used to test this software before they released it. Inside
the code were the labels for the two keys. One was called "KEY". The other
was called "NSAKEY".
Fernandes reported his re-discovery of the two CAPI keys, and their secret
meaning, to "Advances in Cryptology, Crypto'99" conference held in Santa
Barbara. According to those present at the conference, Windows developers
attending the conference did not deny that the "NSA" key was built into
their software. But they refused to talk about what the key did, or why it
had been put there without users' knowledge.
A third key?! But according to two witnesses attending the conference,
even Microsoft's top crypto programmers were astonished to learn that the
version of ADVAPI.DLL shipping with Windows 2000 contains not two, but
three keys. Brian LaMachia, head of CAPI development at Microsoft was
"stunned" to learn of these discoveries, by outsiders. The latest discovery
by Dr van Someren is based on advanced search methods which test and report
on the "entropy" of programming code.
Within the Microsoft organisation, access to Windows source code is said
to be highly compartmentalized, making it easy for modifications to be
inserted without the knowledge of even the respective product managers.
Researchers are divided about whether the NSA key could be intended to let
US government users of Windows run classified cryptosystems on their
machines or whether it is intended to open up anyone's and everyone's
Windows computer to intelligence gathering techniques deployed by NSA's
burgeoning corps of "information warriors".
According to Fernandez of Cryptonym, the result of having the secret key
inside your Windows operating system "is that it is tremendously easier for
the NSA to load unauthorized security services on all copies of Microsoft
Windows, and once these security services are loaded, they can effectively
compromise your entire operating system". The NSA key is contained inside
all versions of Windows from Windows 

Re: [Biofuel] Back to the topic...New BD stuff

[Frank Navarrete]

Hey James,

I have evolved from the idea of
the tank processor to a completly new design that is cheaper, safer, and
faster so I really don't care for the tank style due to the inferior mixing
that CAN take place.

What is it?

On 1/14/07, Kurt Nolte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For what it's worth, methanol will strip aluminum oxide right off a
> surface. Methoxide does so even more quickly, under steady exposure.
>
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Re: [Biofuel] The Push behind the Surge

[Frank Navarrete]

>From your link Keith,

". . . sending additional troops to Iraq—a position endorsed by 12
percent of the public, according to the most recent polling (USA
Today/Gallup, 1/5-7/07). (In another question, Gallup did find 36
percent support for Bush's plan to increase troops—but only when the
increase was described as "temporary,. . ."

Apart from our media, an industry based on words, not caring for the
meaning of their medium (I'm sure they would declare we are having a
"surge" of warm weather) -- does the president's decision to mobilize
strike you as a democratic one?  I've seen the above numbers say the
same about public opinion in one form or another and the will of the
people is clearly being ignored.  The oil plutocracy is making our tax
payers' decisions for them.  We are being taxed without
representation.  Sound familiar?

Frank

On 1/12/07, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thankyou Frank. It needs vigilance eh? Just mindless or slimy with
> it, d'you think? Not that it makes much difference I suppose. So much
> for the 4th estate, or at least the owned portion of it. FAIR is also
> covering this:
>
> http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3029
> Debating the Iraq "Surge" on PBS
>
> They don't seem to think it's just an unintentional oversight.
>
> Best
>
> Keith
>
>
>

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Re: [Biofuel] The Push behind the Surge

[Frank Navarrete]

 admitted a troop increase would require "at least
30,000 combat troops lasting 18 months or so. Any other option is
likely to fail." [Washington Post joint op-ed, 12/27/06]

JANUARY 8: NEW U.S. GROUND COMMANDER IN IRAQ ANTICIPATES ESCALATION
FOR 'TWO OR THREE YEARS': The New York Times reported on Lt. Gen.
Raymond T. Odierno. "The new American operational commander in Iraq
said Sunday that even with the additional American troops likely to be
deployed in Baghdad under President Bush's new war strategy it might
take another 'two or three years' for American and Iraqi forces to
gain the upper hand in the war. [New York Times, 1/8/07]

JANUARY 9: MCCAIN SAYS 6 MONTHS IS TOO SHORT & 'THE WORST OF ALL
WORLDS WOULD BE A SMALL, SHORT SURGE': "There are two keys to any
increase in U.S. force levels: It must be substantial, and it must be
sustained…The worst of all worlds would be a small, short surge of
U.S. forces." [Sen. John McCain, Sacramento Bee op-ed, 1/9/07]



On 1/12/07, Frank Navarrete <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The involvment of Lieberman and McCain certainly hints that Israel is
> one of the hands in the glove for sending more troops.
>
> On 1/12/07, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The Push behind the Surge
> > By Jim Lobe and Michael Flynn | January 11, 2007
> >
> > Neoconservatives and their allies are practically the only supporters
> > of the "surge" idea to send more troops to Iraq. But this doesn't
> > seem to bother the president, who was given a brand new blueprint for
> > "victory" last week, gift-wrapped by the same ideologues at the
> > American Enterprise Institute who helped lead the country into war.
> > <http://rightweb.irc-online.org/rw/3898>
> > Full story below.
> >
> > The Hawks' Hawk
> > By Jim Lobe | January 11, 2007
> >
> > J.D. Crouch, the deputy national security adviser, played a key role
> > in shaping the Bush administration's "surge" strategy in Iraq.
> > <http://rightweb.irc-online.org/rw/3897>Read full story.
> >
> > See Also: New Right Web profile of
> > <http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1259>J.D. Crouch II
> >
> > Right Web Profile: <http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1240>Frederick 
> > Kagan
> > Neoconservatives are riding a wave of optimism about Iraq, led by
> > Kagan's assertion that victory there is attainable - with tens of
> > thousands more troops, that is.
> >
> > Right Web Profile: <http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1347>Randy
> > Scheunemann
> > Expected to be Sen. John McCain's foreign policy guru during the 2008
> > presidential campaign, Scheunemann's experience includes serving as a
> > lobbyist for gun groups and founding the Committee for the Liberation
> > of Iraq.
> >
> > Right Web Profile: <http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1306>John 
> > Negroponte
> > The man slated to be the next number two at State has a reputation as
> > someone who gets the job the done - however "dirty" or undiplomatic.
> >
> > 
> >
> > http://rightweb.irc-online.org/rw/3898
> > Right Web | Analysis | The Push behind the Surge
> > The Push behind the Surge
> >
> > Jim Lobe and Michael Flynn | January 11, 2007
> >
> > IRC Right Web
> > rightweb.irc-online.org
> >
> > President George W. Bush's plan to "surge" more than 20,000
> > additional U.S. troops into Iraq without any deadline for withdrawal
> > has garnered little support, except from neoconservatives and their
> > increasingly isolated allies in the hawkish wings of the Republican
> > and Democratic parties. Not only are the new Democratic majorities in
> > both houses of Congress lining up in opposition to the surge plan,
> > but a growing number of Republican lawmakers-including some staunch
> > Bush loyalists-are also voicing serious reservations. For the
> > neoconservatives, on the other hand, the only problem with Bush's
> > plan is that it doesn't go far enough, arguing in their own recently
> > released plan for "victory" that troop levels should be boosted by
> > more than a third.
> >
> > A good example of the opposition Bush is facing is Sen. Norm Coleman
> > (R-MN), an erstwhile supporter of the war who faces reelection in
> > 2008 and just returned from visiting Iraq. He told the Los Angeles
> > Times last week: "Baghdad needs reconciliation between Shiites and
> > Sunnis. It doesn't need more Americans in the crosshairs."
>

Re: [Biofuel] The Push behind the Surge

[Frank Navarrete]

The involvment of Lieberman and McCain certainly hints that Israel is
one of the hands in the glove for sending more troops.

On 1/12/07, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Push behind the Surge
> By Jim Lobe and Michael Flynn | January 11, 2007
>
> Neoconservatives and their allies are practically the only supporters
> of the "surge" idea to send more troops to Iraq. But this doesn't
> seem to bother the president, who was given a brand new blueprint for
> "victory" last week, gift-wrapped by the same ideologues at the
> American Enterprise Institute who helped lead the country into war.
> 
> Full story below.
>
> The Hawks' Hawk
> By Jim Lobe | January 11, 2007
>
> J.D. Crouch, the deputy national security adviser, played a key role
> in shaping the Bush administration's "surge" strategy in Iraq.
> Read full story.
>
> See Also: New Right Web profile of
> J.D. Crouch II
>
> Right Web Profile: Frederick 
> Kagan
> Neoconservatives are riding a wave of optimism about Iraq, led by
> Kagan's assertion that victory there is attainable - with tens of
> thousands more troops, that is.
>
> Right Web Profile: Randy
> Scheunemann
> Expected to be Sen. John McCain's foreign policy guru during the 2008
> presidential campaign, Scheunemann's experience includes serving as a
> lobbyist for gun groups and founding the Committee for the Liberation
> of Iraq.
>
> Right Web Profile: John 
> Negroponte
> The man slated to be the next number two at State has a reputation as
> someone who gets the job the done - however "dirty" or undiplomatic.
>
> 
>
> http://rightweb.irc-online.org/rw/3898
> Right Web | Analysis | The Push behind the Surge
> The Push behind the Surge
>
> Jim Lobe and Michael Flynn | January 11, 2007
>
> IRC Right Web
> rightweb.irc-online.org
>
> President George W. Bush's plan to "surge" more than 20,000
> additional U.S. troops into Iraq without any deadline for withdrawal
> has garnered little support, except from neoconservatives and their
> increasingly isolated allies in the hawkish wings of the Republican
> and Democratic parties. Not only are the new Democratic majorities in
> both houses of Congress lining up in opposition to the surge plan,
> but a growing number of Republican lawmakers-including some staunch
> Bush loyalists-are also voicing serious reservations. For the
> neoconservatives, on the other hand, the only problem with Bush's
> plan is that it doesn't go far enough, arguing in their own recently
> released plan for "victory" that troop levels should be boosted by
> more than a third.
>
> A good example of the opposition Bush is facing is Sen. Norm Coleman
> (R-MN), an erstwhile supporter of the war who faces reelection in
> 2008 and just returned from visiting Iraq. He told the Los Angeles
> Times last week: "Baghdad needs reconciliation between Shiites and
> Sunnis. It doesn't need more Americans in the crosshairs."
>
> Even retired Lt. Col. Oliver North, a far-right talk-show host who
> gained fame as the White House coordinator of what became the
> Iran-Contra affair 20 years ago, reported that his recent interviews
> with officers and soldiers in Iraq persuaded him that adding more
> troops to the 140,000 already deployed there would be a mistake.
>
> But the tepid support for what critics call an "escalation" has not
> dampened the enthusiasm of the neoconservatives. At the American
> Enterprise Institute (AEI) last week-with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and
> Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) in attendance-neoconservatives unveiled
> a new report: "Choosing Victory: A Plan for Success in Iraq." The AEI
> report argues that substantially increasing U.S. troop strength in
> Iraq is essential to avoiding a defeat that could lead to "regional
> conflict, humanitarian catastrophe, and increased global terrorism."
>
> The two senators, who recently returned from a fact-finding trip to
> Iraq, have been heavily criticized on both the left and right for
> their support of the surge plan. "McCain and Lieberman talked to many
> of the same officers and senior NCOs [non-commissioned officers] I
> covered for FOX News during my most recent trip to Iraq," North
> asserted in his syndicated column last Friday. "Not one of the
> soldiers, sailors, airmen, Guardsmen, or Marines I interviewed told
> me that they wanted more U.S. boots on the ground. In fact, nearly
> all expressed just the opposite. 'We don't need more American troops,
> we need more Iraqi troops' was a common refrain. They are right.
>
> "A 'surge' or 'targeted increase in U.S. troop strength' or whatever
> the politicians want to call dispatching more combat troops to Iraq
> isn't the answer. Adding more trainers and helping the Iraqis to help
> themselves is. Send

Re: [Biofuel] Correspondance with the White House

[Frank Navarrete]

Hi Robert and Benita,
Lovely letter.
"I heard his remarks this morning (Thursday) about the "capacity of the
American people to forget," and I'm offended that he would think me
stupid enough to "forget" what happened that day.

I will NEVER forget September 11th!  I was in Washington that day.
I saw what happened to the Pentagon.  Our president has NO RIGHT to
assume I'll forget what happened . . .  "

Have you seen Loose Change 911?  http://www.loosechange911.com/

Everyone should.  Even more reasons to never forget.

Frank


On 1/12/07, robert and benita rabello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This put a wry smile on my face . . .
>
> I composed an e-mail to the White House after listening to Mr. Bush outline
> his tired old strategy for dealing with the tar baby he's created in Iraq.
> It was uniformly critical, as has been every e-mail I've sent to the White
> House since Mr. Bush took office.  (There have been dozens of these.)  I've
> never received a response, until tonight.  Here's what the automailer of the
> White House sent me:
>
> "On behalf of President Bush, thank you for your correspondence.
We
> appreciate hearing your views and welcome your suggestions.
The President is
> committed to continuing our economic progress,
defending our freedom, and
> upholding our Nation's deepest values.

Due to the large volume of e-mail
> received, the White House
cannot respond to every message. Please visit the
> White House
website for the most up-to-date information on
> Presidential
initiatives, current events, and topics of interest to you.
In
> order to better receive comments from the public, a new system
has been
> implemented. In the future please send your comments
> to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you again for taking the time to
> write."


Ha! I wonder if any of them bother taking the time to READ!!! This
> is what I wrote:


"Dear White House Staff:



Despite the more
> conciliatory tone our president has adopted after
the elections last
> November, I listened to his speech last night with
resignation.  He STILL
> doesn't get it!



We Americans who have NEVER supported the invasion of
> Iraq will not
support an increase in the number of our troops in that
> country.  Get
us OUT of that quagmire.



We Americans who are
> Christians and look upon the destruction
wrought by our foreign policy with
> dismay will NEVER support military
solutions to our conflicts.  Mr. Bush
> needs to stop invoking the name
of God for the sake of fomenting warfare.
> Mr. Bush needs to stop
invoking 11 September as some kind of mantra that,
> when uttered,
magically vanquishes all intelligent opposition to his
> policies.  I
heard his remarks this morning (Thursday) about the "capacity
> of the
American people to forget," and I'm offended that he would think
> me
stupid enough to "forget" what happened that day.



I will NEVER
> forget September 11th!  I was in Washington that day.
I saw what happened
> to the Pentagon.  Our president has NO RIGHT to
assume I'll forget what
> happened . . .



But our nation's response to that day, under Mr.
> Bush's leadership,
has consisted of one myopic blunder after another.  He
> did not announce
anything new in his speech to us last night.  He's
> proposing more war,
more death / sacrifice (but only for the
> underpriviledged enlisted, not
to his own children), more finger-pointing
> (laying our inability to stop the
insurgency at the feet of the Iraqis,
> themselves), more deficit
spending, more worry about WMD's (Iran) more
> consultations with nations
already generally supportive of an ongoing
> American presence in the Gulf
(the Saudis, Egyptians and Jordanians) ; yet
> he's NOT listening to his own
people (who have had ENOUGH!), the growing
> outcry in the Congress
(even from people in our own party) and he's still
> refusing to talk to our enemies.



Richard Nixon talked to the Chinese.
>  Ronald Reagan talked to the
Soviets.  Why can't we talk to the Iranians or
> the Syrians?  Perhaps we
don't like what they'll say?  Perhaps we don't
> really WANT to do
anything about the Palestinians, whose democratically
> elected
government we don't like . . .



Or maybe this apparent
> ineptitude on the part of our administration
is designed to KEEP American
> soldiers in Iraq indefinately, so that we
can justify our large bases there.
>  Perhaps Mr. Bush's saber rattling
with respect to Iran is nothing more than
> another fear tactic to
justify the need for large troop deployments in the
> region.



The Iranians don't have nuclear weapons, but even if they
> did, so
what?  The Pakistanis have nu

[Biofuel] Free Trade Agreements Include Free Toxic Waste Sites

[Frank Navarrete]

>From the Basel Action Network

http://www.ban.org/ban_news/2006/061208_south_korea.html

South Korea Breaks Rank with anti-Basel Ban Block

Environmental Groups Laud Move, Critical of Japan and US Toxic Trade Policy
Joint Press Release from BAN, Greenpeace, and GAIA

 7 December 2006 (Manila, Philippines; Nairobi, Kenya) – Environmental
groups lauded South Korea's support, together with the Arab region,
Ethiopia, Tanzania, Norway, for the early entry into force of the
Basel Convention's Ban Amendment, which prohibits developed nations
from exporting toxic wastes to poorer countries, during the
deliberations of the Eighth Conference of Parties of the Basel
Convention, held in Nairobi, Kenya last week.
The Basel Ban Amendment issue came after the European Union urged
countries to settle the cloud raised by Art. 17 (5) of the Basel
Convention over the entry into force of amendments to the treaty. The
US and Canada disagreed with South Korea's interpretation, with the US
continuing its vocal opposition of the Basel Ban Amendment during the
deliberations.

South Korea's move is a significant break from the JUSCANZ, the block
of countries that includes Japan, US, Canada, Australia, and New
Zealand, who have stridently opposed the Basel Ban Amendment since its
introduction in 1995. It also comes at a critical time where global
outrage is high against the toxic chemical waste dumping last
September that happened in Cote d'Ivoire that killed seven and injured
scores of people.1

"The tragedy and injustice that continues to beset nations like Cote
d'Ivoire should have stopped yesterday," said Richard Gutierrez of the
Basel Action Network - Asia-Pacific. "It is high time for the few
countries such as the US and Canada to cease their obstructionist
efforts against the early entry into force of the Basel Ban and
respect the will of the rest of the world."

Environmental NGOs present in the Nairobi meeting were also critical
of Japan's efforts to establish waste colonies around Asia through the
use free trade bilateral agreements (FTA).2 The Japanese FTAs contain
significant provisions allowing Japan unobstructed pathways to send
toxic wastes to its poorer Asian neighbors undermining the Basel
Convention's obligations to minimize generation and transboundary
movement of toxic wastes, as well as the environmental justice
provision of the Basel Ban Amendment.

"We need an industrialized Asian nation to lead the way towards a
toxic waste free Asia, and Japan is failing miserably at this," said
Beau Baconguis of Greenpeace Southeast Asia. Added Manny Calonzo of
the Global Alliance for Incinerator Alternatives: "With South Korea's
sentiment in Nairobi, there is hope that a new leader can emerge to
guide the rest of the Asian region away from Japan's toxic waste
colonization."


Contact:

Richard Gutierrez, BAN Asia-Pacific, Tel: +63.02.9290376, e-mail:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Beau Baconguis, Greenpeace Southeast Asia, Tel. +63.02.4347034,
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Manny Calonzo, Global Alliance for Incinerator Alternatives (GAIA),
Tel. +63.02.929.0376, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


1 For more information see BAN Press Release at:
http://www.ban.org/ban_news/2006/060926_activists_call.html.

2 The latest move by Japan came last 9 September 2006, when Japan and
the Philippines signed the Japanese-Philippines Economic Partnership
Agreement (JPEPA). The treaty is being considered for ratification by
the two countries. For more information see:
http://www.ban.org/Library/JPEPA_Report.pdf.


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Re: [Biofuel] The American Chemistry Council on Chemical Body Burden

[Frank Navarrete]

I agree -- calling any trace amount "harmless" is preposterous.

On 1/11/07, D. Mindock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Who knows whether the idea of a threshold is valid. I think in studies of
> radioactive materials on the
> human body, sometimes a small exposure is worse than a larger one. And it's
> known too that there is
> no safe level of mercury. I'd imagine that the same is true for uranium.
> Figuring out how a dozen chemicals
> interact is tough enough. But how about 700 chemicals? We are supposed to
> meekly bow down to
> the Dows, Monsantos, and Union Carbides of the world? This is part of the
> New World Order?
> Why is the CDC acting as an apologist for Big Chemicals? The precautionary
> principle is only
> referred to by the government when it wants to take away our rights wrt
> fighting those dastardly
> terrorists or reducing vitamin potencies to very low levels wrt Codex. But
> when industry runs roughshod
> over us wrt air, food, and water contamination--well, that's ok. It can't be
> helped. Don't worry, be
> happy. You're not dead, are you?
> Peace, D. Mindock
>
> >I would expect that with a scientific study, mice, rats and monkeys will
> > be subjected to individual chemicals, and comparisons between their body
> > mass and the dosage of chemical will lead to a LD (lethal dose) number.
> > We, however, are subjected to a blend of many chemicals, some of which
> > undoubtably interact with each other, hence being handled differently by
> > the body's organs that keep the body clean.
> >
> > I'd be interested in seeing studies that take this action into account!
> >
> > doug swanson
> >
> > Keith Addison wrote:
> >
> >>   Many studies now confirm that the average human has been invaded by
> >>   hundreds of industrial poisons, without anyone's informed consent.
> >>   This is a major human rights violation, but the chemical industry
> >>   tries to frame it as a health issue, then declare it insignificant.
> >>
> >>From: Star-Telegram (Fort Worth, Tex.), Dec. 3, 2006
> >>[P
> >>rinter-friendly version]
> >>
> >>The American Chemistry Council On Chemical Body Burden
> >>
> >>By Scott Streater, Star-Telegram Staff Writer
> >>
> >>Below are excerpts from interviews with two senior directors of the
> >>American Chemistry Council, an industry trade group: Sarah Brozena
> >>and Steve Russell.
> >>
> >>Studies have found traces of man-made toxic chemicals in the bodies
> >>of pretty much everyone tested. So what?
> >>
> >>Sarah Brozena: As you pointed out, these are trace levels. These are
> >>tiny levels of compounds which now suddenly we can detect. Until the
> >>last five or so years, we were only able to detect a few chemicals.
> >>Now we can measure more. Does that mean these chemicals were never
> >>there before? No. That's not what it means at all. It means our
> >>ability to detect has frankly now exceeded our ability to understand
> >>what it means And the CDC reports every two years have been very
> >>careful to point out that just because you have a chemical in your
> >>body doesn't mean it's causing disease. It all relates to the dose or
> >>concentration of the chemical We think that these levels, for the
> >>most part, are very small and not of concern. But we certainly
> >>support the science needed to interpret it in a risk context.
> >>
> >>Some say we lack good health data on many toxic chemicals used today.
> >>Does the Environmental Protection Agency need more money for research?
> >>
> >>Brozena: Well, EPA is already... looking at the risk assessment on
> >>PFOA [perfluorooctanoic acid]. They're trying to figure out what the
> >>levels are that might cause a problem. The EPA has already been
> >>working with some of the manufacturers of that compound to make sure
> >>that the compound is controlled more, because it was showing up in
> >>more places than they thought it ought to. So EPA has the tools they
> >>need if they determine that some compounds are at levels that are
> >>worrisome. And those tools in the U.S. are all found in the Toxic
> >>Substances Control Act.
> >>
> >>Chemicals such as flame retardants have improved our quality of life.
> >>Is that worth the risk of having low doses of those chemicals in our
> >>bodies?
> >>
> >>Steve Russell: Unfortunately, folks with an interest in this debate
> >>tend to make it black or white or all or nothing. Individuals have
> >>different risk tolerances and different abilities to see both sides
> >>of the story. Many people are fiercely anti-chemical and therefore
> >>view any presence of a chemical negatively and would prefer to not
> >>have chemicals there. Others take a more pragmatic approach
> >>Society is all about making risk trade-offs in every aspect of our
> >>lives. Hopefully, this debate can begin to move to a place where
> >>risks and the benefits are both portrayed honestly and
> >>dispassionately, so that we can make good public

Re: [Biofuel] Threats of Peak Oil to the Global Food Supply

[Frank Navarrete]

I'm glad this resurfaced.

> > > The number of farmers as a percentage of the  population: In the US at
> > > the turn of the last century, 70 percent of  the population lived in
> > > rural areas and farmed. Today less than two  percent of Americans farm
> > > for a living. This change came primarily  because fuel-fed farm
> > > machinery replaced labor, which meant that fewer  farmers were needed.
> > > Hundreds of thousands - perhaps millions - of  families that
> > > desperately wanted to farm could not continue to do so  because they
> > > could not afford the new machines, or could not compete  with their
> > > neighbors who had them. Another way of saying this is that  economies
> > > of scale (driven by mechanization) gave an advantage to  ever-larger
> > > farms. But the loss of farmers also meant a gradual loss of  knowledge
> > > of how to farm and a loss of rural farming culture. Many  farmers
> > > today merely follow the directions on bags of fertilizer or
> > > pesticide, and live so far from their neighbors that their children
> > > have no desire to continue the agricultural way of life.

John Ford's version of "The Grapes of Wrath" is a film to see about the above.

> > > The effectiveness of pesticides and herbicides: In the US, over the
> > > past two decades pesticide use has increased 33-fold, yet, each year
> > > a greater amount of crops is lost to pests, which are evolving
> > >  immunities faster than chemists can invent new poisons. Like falling
> > >  grain production per capita, this trend suggests a declining return
> > >  from injecting the process of agricultural production with still more
> > >  fossil fuels.

I think Keith mentioned recently, citing Weston A. Price, that it only
takes a generation exposed to either malnutrition or better nutrition
to show degeneration or its counterpart.  Of the same token is the
idea that it probably only takes one generation for a breed of pest or
weed to get used to a pesticide or herbicide.  Can't scientists see
the indefinite cycle occuring?  (Maybe they can and that's what they
have in mind).

> > > Global climate:  This is being increasingly destabilized as a result
> > > of the famous  greenhouse effect, resulting in problems for farmers
> > > that are  relatively minor now but that are likely to grow to
> > > catastrophic  proportions within the next decade or two. Global
> > > warming is now almost  universally acknowledged as resulting from CO2
> > > emissions from the  burning of fossil fuels.
> > >
> > > Available fresh water: In the US, 85  percent of fresh water use goes
> > > toward agricultural production,  requiring the drawing down of ancient
> > > aquifers at far above their  recharge rates. Globally, as water tables
> > > fall, ever more powerful  pumps must be used to lift irrigation water,
> > > requiring ever more energy  usage. By 2020, according to the
> > > Worldwatch Institute and the UN,  virtually every country will face
> > > shortages of fresh water.

I know it's in the mainstream, but Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth"
is making this common knowledge.

> > > Now, let us add to this picture the imminent peak  in world oil
> > > production. This will make machinery more expensive to  operate,
> > > fertilizers more expensive to produce, and transportation more
> > > expensive. While the adoption of fossil fuels created a range of
> > > problems for global food production, as we have just seen, the
> > >  decline in the availability of cheap oil will not immediately solve
> > >  those problems; in fact, over the short term they will exacerbate
> > > them,  bringing simmering crises to a boil.
> > >
> > > That is because the scale  of our dependency on fossil fuels has grown
> > > to enormous  proportions.

Picture a world of vine covered cities, with automobiles here and
there having no purpose with there being nothing to run them on.

.
> Trucks move most of the world's food, even though trucking is ten
> times more energy-intensive than moving food by train or barge.
> Refrigerated jets move a small but growing proportion of food, almost
> entirely to wealthy industrial nations, at 60 times the energy cost
> of sea transport

Perhaps lessons and plans on how to build wooden boats along with some
sailing lessons are in order.

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Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Vaccines : Untested, Unsafe and Unnecessary

[Frank Navarrete]

Hello D,
This read is very troubling to a parent.  I found this link

http://whale.to/v/rapp.html

which I followed from the post to be very convincing.  I'm not sure if
I will allow any more vaccines to be given to my family.



Thanks.


On 1/7/07, D. Mindock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think it is interesting that mercury is number two in
> toxicity. Uranium is number one and that's being spread
> all over Iraq via DU (depleted uranium) weapons. Wind
> currents are spreading it over vast reaches of the planet.
> Peace, D. Mindock
> Vaccines : Untested, Unsafe and Unnecessary
> Thu Jan 4, 2007 7:07 pm (PST)
> I ["kayedoe1" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] am cross posting this important
> information (with permission of the authors) for anyone that is interested
> in this topic.
> [From Beck-n-Stuff Yahoo group]
>
>
> Vaccines : Untested, Unsafe and Unnecessary.
> (c) Dr Leo Rebello & Jagannath Chatterjee ,
> (Published in Medical Journal "Homoeo a' fair", December 2006)
> Presented personally to Swami Ramdevji on 01.01.2007
>
> Since the time they were introduced around 200 years ago vaccines
> have been credited to be a medical marvel, having stopped killer
> acute diseases on their tracks and providing hopes of similarly
> tackling other diseases like AIDS, and also chronic autoimmune
> disorders like cancer, diabetes, even ending obesity and the nicotine
> habit.
>
> Emergence of autism fuels discontent.
> But below all this hope, hype and activity opposition and discontent
> is brewing. The process of vaccine manufacture, and the nature of
> vaccine ingredients have always been a closely guarded secret.
> However an outbreak of Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) in American
> children, up from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 166 today, an increase that
> coincides with the increase in number of childhood vaccinations since
> 1978, focused attention on vaccines with the parents claiming that
> they watched their children regress after they got the shots.
>
> Children with ASD, a condition yet to be fully understood, usually
> demonstrate deficits in social interaction, verbal and nonverbal
> communication, and display repetitive behaviors or interests. They
> may suffer from delayed development and be afflicted by severe bowel
> disorders. Clinically it is attributed to a neuron disorder and
> blamed on the genes, the gut problems being generally ignored.
> Critics say it is the largest iatrogenic (medicine induced) epidemic
> in human history.
>
> Mercury poisoning via vaccines.
> The cries against vaccines became more vocal as autism was found to
> be very similar to symptoms of mercury poisoning. Vaccine whistle
> blowers have revealed that Thimerosal, a vaccine decontaminant used
> in multi dose vials to prevent fungal and bacterial growth, is 49.56%
> mercury by weight and it is being used since 1930. The first autism
> cases were detected in 1931. Earlier too a syndrome called "Pink
> Disease" was seen in children treated with Calomel, a mercury based
> compound. Calomel was banned when the link was known.
>
> It takes simple mathematics to find out that by the time the children
> take all the shots, which have increased considerably over the last
> three decades, the mercury in their body is much above the EPA
> approved limit in food of 0.1mcg per kg of body weight in adults,
> ingested, not injected. A mercury laced vaccine contains 15 to 50mcg
> of mercury per shot.
>
> The mercury content in children's bodies has gone up to 250 times the
> EPA limit as a result of the vaccines and that too injected directly
> into their blood stream bypassing the body's natural defences. If we
> consider the FDA limit of mercury in water the children are being
> subjected to 50,000 times the limit. Mercury is a dangerous
> neurotoxin, second only to Uranium, and accumulates in fat cells of
> the brain, organs and tissues destroying the nerves therein. It has
> been found to be toxic even in ppm doses.
>
> Vaccines also contain aluminum, used to excite the immune system of
> the body, and which considerably boosts the toxicity of mercury. When
> injected into children the mixture readily overpowers their nervous
> system to cause severe brain, neurological and allied damage.
>
> Vaccines have caused a trail of autism and other damage wherever they
> have been implemented. China has reported an autistic population of
> 18 lakhs after vaccines were allowed into the country in 1990. The
> parents of vaccine damaged children have staged protests in the
> infamous Tiannemann Square in Beijing after which they were forcibly
> dragged away and imprisoned.
>
> How vaccines affect children.
> Some children are more susceptible to mercury as their body does not
> produce enough glutathione, an agent that helps in disposing off the
> mercury and other neurotoxins in the body. These children develop
> full scale autism while the other children are affected with various
> other disorders. It is observed that sick, underweight, malnourished
> a

Re: [Biofuel] pendulum/lever

[Frank Navarrete]

Perhaps not over-unit, the pendulum does seem to reduce input energy
by its very nature, and in the case of pumps or any device why not
take mechanical advantage of it?  Lots of watches run indefinitely on
the simple motions of the wearers hand encouraging a pendulum.  I
think there's room for its use elsewhere where it isn't being used.

On 1/7/07, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hope springs eternal, as indeed it should, but in a field where there
> is no case that has not proved to be a scam hope is best leavened
> with due scepticism.
>
> Posted several times before:
>
> >Eric Krieg lists 78 free energy scams here, doesn't seem to get into
> >the zero-point stuff and instant cold fusion, so there's all that
> >besides:
> >http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html
> >Eric's history of Perpetual Motion and Free Energy Machines
> >
> >Plus:
> >How to become a Free Energy con man
> >http://www.phact.org/e/con_man.htm
> >
> >And:
> >The Museum of Unworkable Devices
> >http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm
>
> Best
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> > >Frank, I think the link shows some experiment of him attempting to apply 
> > >the
> > >use in a go cart, I didn't understand what he was trying to do.
> > >The most interesting concept to me might be to configure it with a magnet
> > >and coil similar to the induction flashlights that work by shaking (sliding
> > >a magnet back and forth through a coil).
> > >Somewhere in the link you will also see the idea to attach magnets at 
> > >either
> > >end of the pendulum swing. This or electro magnets should keep the unit in
> > >motion indefinitely.
> > >All in all I think the most beautiful part of this invention is a water 
> > >pump
> > >for developing nation's farmers.
> > >http://www.rexresearch.com/milkovic/milkovic.htm
> >
> >http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/pendpump.htm
> >The water hand-pump with pendulum of Veljko Milkovic
> >
> >It would be beautiful if there are or ever were any working examples
> >that actually pumped water with 9:1 over-unity energy, or any
> >over-unity, do you know of any such examples?
> >
> >Do you know of any other working, real-world, attested, authenticated
> >examples of this over-unity device working? Or of any over-unity
> >device working?
> >
> >I think this about sums it up:
> >
> > >"I did look at several sites describing the "pendulum of Veljko
> > >Milkovic". It seems like a neat little device and it does provide
> > >for hands-free operation because the human force is stored in the
> > >pendulum swing so that the pump continues to pump for awhile after
> > >the push.
> > >
> > >The machine is not a free energy device. All the energy for the pump
> > >comes from the person pushing the pendulum. If it were really
> > >overunity (one claim was 9 times as much energy out as in), it would
> > >be easy to set it up to pump forever.
> > >
> > >Its a neat little invention. It is not free energy. It is not
> > >perpetual motion. It is not over-unity. It is a cool hand pump.
> > >There are many hand pumps of many designs available. Show me one
> > >that pumps without input energy from a person or other source and
> > >then we will have "free energy".
> >
> >http://www.steorn.net/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=35461#Item_6
> >
> >I doubt dangling magnets off it will help much.
> >
> >Best
> >
> >Keith
> >
> >
> > >Wes
> > >
> > >Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:31:04 -0500
> > >From: "Frank Navarrete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Castor oil as a therapy
> > >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> > >Message-ID:
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed
> > >
> > >Hi Wes,
> > >Interesting link to Milkovic's work.  I wonder if you could apply
> > >added pendulum energy to a bicycle, and have a sort of long-distance
> > >low-effort gear.
>
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Re: [Biofuel] Castor oil as a therapy

[Frank Navarrete]

Hi Wes,
Interesting link to Milkovic's work.  I wonder if you could apply
added pendulum energy to a bicycle, and have a sort of long-distance
low-effort gear.

On 1/6/07, Wes Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks to D. Mindock  for the Castor oil post. Here is one comment from
> someone whom I passed this on to:
>
> Hi Wes,  since  Dr. Hamilton left I`ve been without a doctor, anyway to make
> a long story short I found a narouapathis [sp?] practitioner in Glen Tay,
> he`s kept me going when I thought I`d had it! castor oil is his fixit for
> everything, blueberries are his favourite followed by flax seed oil, I know
> it sounds delightful but a little bit of honey makes the medicine go down!
> See you S.
>
>
>
> Appreciating beneficial posts like this I think some folks may be interested
> in this:
>
> http://www.rexresearch.com/milkovic/milkovic.htm
>
> I believe the link was contributed from Keelynet.com.  A fellow from Serbia
> has discovered over unity energy from the application of a pendulum used in
> conjunction with a lever.
>
> There seems to have been a resurgence of advances in over unity lately.
> Including that unspeakable  magnetic motion. … hope this is not offensive to
> anyone.,
>
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Re: [Biofuel] Biofuels eat into China's food stocks written up side down

[Frank Navarrete]

I agree, Irwin  It is the practice of the contemporary journalist to
sensationalize or find the controversy in any current event especially
something so "cutting edge" (ironically the original fuel of both
types of fuel engines were ethanol and biodiesel) as biofuels.
Thankfully, the momentum of biofuels is becoming too massive to halt.

Frank

On 1/5/07, Irwin Levinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As usual as a technology begins and has a success, analysis of the current 
> results encourages projections to the future.  This is natural and expected, 
> But the future is, and can be rosey or not depending upon the resourses put 
> in to  it. especially the "Mathematics or the algorythms" used. A small base 
> often leads to projected early limits  and disaster,  The beginnings of 
> biofuel are small, expansion must be slow and various plants other than the 
> current bio masses begin to be assessed. From current normal mass growth 
> items as corn, wheat, rye, soy, one can go to all pine, wild plants, rice, 
> tree bark, rubber plant waste, olive and fruit tree waste and as you think of 
> it ANY carbon growth with cellulose will and can be turned to alcohol.  The 
> chinese are at the beginning and the journalist paints a dark picture at the 
> very start.
>  Too bad.
> Irv
> 
> -Original Message-
> >From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Jan 5, 2007 10:47 AM
> >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> >Subject: [Biofuel] Biofuels eat into China's food stocks
> >
> >http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China_Business/HL21Cb03.html
> >Asia Times Online :: China Business News -
> >China Business
> >
> > Dec 21, 2006
> >
> >Biofuels eat into China's food stocks
> >By Antoaneta Bezlova
> >
> >BEIJING - China's biofuel industry is booming thanks to voracious
> >demand for energy to power the country's high-flying economy.
> >Applying modernized versions of ancient chemical processes to convert
> >crops and oils into energy sources, Chinese entrepreneurs have
> >created a profitable "green business" with plenty of room to grow.
> >
> >But worried over surging crop prices, China is now clamping down on
> >the use of corn (maize) and other edible grains for producing
> >
> >
> >
> >biofuel. While it wants to support the growth of alternative energy
> >sources, Beijing says the issue of national food security should take
> >precedence over the country's green agenda.
> >
> >"In China the first thing is to provide food for its 1.3 billion
> >people, and after that, we will support biofuel production," the
> >state-run newspaper People's Daily quoted Wang Xiaobing, an official
> >at the Agriculture Ministry's Crops Cultivation Department, as saying
> >this week.
> >
> >China has been encouraging the production of biofuels such as ethanol
> >and methane from renewable resources to reduce the country's growing
> >dependence on imported oil. Once an exporter, China now imports at
> >least 43% of its oil supply.
> >
> >Biofuel is also seen as an environmentally friendly substitute to
> >pollution-producing oil. Chinese economic planners have made the
> >development of green energies such as ethanol fuel and biodiesel a
> >key priority in the country's five-year economic plan. By 2020 they
> >want green energies to account for 15% of all transportation fuels.
> >
> >Yet surging demand for biofuel is now partly blamed for recent price
> >hikes in the food market and for shortages in grain stocks. Wheat
> >prices are at their highest level in a decade, due to poor harvests
> >in key producing countries such as the United States and Australia,
> >while corn prices have surged by up to 20% in local markets.
> >
> >Beijing has begun auctioning some of its wheat reserves to halt the
> >rise in crop prices and prevent panic among the public. Despite
> >predictions that this year would see another bumper harvest,
> >government officials feel compelled to restrict the use of corn for
> >producing biofuel.
> >
> >"We have a principle with biofuel: it should neither impact on the
> >people's grain consumption, nor should it compete with grain crops
> >for cultivated land," the People's Daily quoted Yang Jian, director
> >of the Development Planning Department under the Agriculture
> >Ministry, as saying.
> >
> >Government officials estimate that corn contributes about
> >three-fou

Re: [Biofuel] Capitalism 3.0, Part 2

[Frank Navarrete]

Hello Keith,

"What's somewhat frightening is what happens when the balance of power
finally shifts, when the walls are undermined as you put it - not
wise, I don't think, to force these people (? - entities or whatever)
into a corner when they've still got their fingers on all the
buttons. Somehow I don't think they'll just be happy to say "Okay,
fair enough, you win, you take over, we'll go and play golf instead
and contemplate our Rolexes", do you?"

I entirely agree -- not wise at all.  The "entity" is more a current
philosphy than a group of people; an outdated way of thinking which I
hope will be phased out of existence through the somewhat functioning
democratic process.  Luckily, we have members of congress whom I
consider faithful representatives of the people who elected them in to
office.  Through the spread of these types of elected officials, and
an overwhelming evidence of public opinion (via the internet --
unfudged), the shift in power will hopefully be an evolution and not
necessarily a revolution.  A shift in the mass and exposed conscience
toward what many of us have always known was right.  By undermining
the "walls", I simply mean there have been either manipulated or
nonmanipulated forces which keep the grassroots elements of societies
from truly convening.  The internet finally creates a place for this
to happen and thus undermines these forces.

As for TNC's and Goliath corporations, I think the same applies.   If
everyone knows what they do to get where they are, maybe everyone will
boycott their products.  Consumer democracy I guess.  Here's to
hoping.  Happy New Year and
Cheers,

Frank


On 12/31/06, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Frank
>
> >Thanks for the information Keith -- I'll read up.
>
> You're welcome. No hurry, it's quite a slab. Worth it though, IMHO.
>
> > > The ancient (un)equation of people vs power has a whole new element
> > > these days, one which makes a critical difference - no Internet, no
> > > "Other Superpower". With the Internet, the Global Village is the only
> > > superpower that counts.
> >
> >The internet gives the world its first chance really, to undermine the
> >walls that have been perpetuated since time immemorial -- those
> >between people that kept them from having any chance at being any kind
> >of entity (much less a super power).
>
> Yes indeed. Nice of the US military to make the thing immune to
> nuclear attack while they were at it. And immune to control it seems:
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg59924.html
> Re: [Biofuel] The End of the Internet
>
> >Nevertheless, it will still take
> >a certain amount of "educated and courageous people with a body of
> >faithful representatives" to impact the non-virtual world.
>
> Maybe. But I think that's what happens after the change has already
> happened and is a fait accompli but most people don't know it yet.
>
> >I believe
> >things are already changing.
>
> Or have already changed. I think the paradigm shifted about 18 months
> ago, tomorrow is yesterday already.
>
> What's somewhat frightening is what happens when the balance of power
> finally shifts, when the walls are undermined as you put it - not
> wise, I don't think, to force these people (? - entities or whatever)
> into a corner when they've still got their fingers on all the
> buttons. Somehow I don't think they'll just be happy to say "Okay,
> fair enough, you win, you take over, we'll go and play golf instead
> and contemplate our Rolexes", do you?
>
> Best
>
> Keith
>
>
> >All the best,
> >
> >Frank
> >
> >On 12/30/06, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hello Frank
> > >
> > > >I think the common trust would fall subject to corruption like the
> > > >rest of our well planned US government.  The fore-fathers created
> > > >preventative measures for our modern woes, which unfortunately have
> > > >been used against their original intentions.  The only thing that
> > > >keeps a good government on paper from becoming a bad one in practice
> > > >is adherence to the simple tenets of its constitution.  This requires
> > > >an educated and courageous people with a body of faithful
> > > >representatives.  The system is good, we've just strayed from it.
> > >
> > > Whether the system was good or not, it was fraught with robber barons
> > > from the start. All the king's horses and all the king's men...
> > >
> > &g

Re: [Biofuel] Capitalism 3.0, Part 2

[Frank Navarrete]

Thanks for the information Keith -- I'll read up.

> The ancient (un)equation of people vs power has a whole new element
> these days, one which makes a critical difference - no Internet, no
> "Other Superpower". With the Internet, the Global Village is the only
> superpower that counts.

The internet gives the world its first chance really, to undermine the
walls that have been perpetuated since time immemorial -- those
between people that kept them from having any chance at being any kind
of entity (much less a super power).  Nevertheless, it will still take
a certain amount of "educated and courageous people with a body of
faithful representatives" to impact the non-virtual world.  I believe
things are already changing.

All the best,

Frank

On 12/30/06, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Frank
>
> >I think the common trust would fall subject to corruption like the
> >rest of our well planned US government.  The fore-fathers created
> >preventative measures for our modern woes, which unfortunately have
> >been used against their original intentions.  The only thing that
> >keeps a good government on paper from becoming a bad one in practice
> >is adherence to the simple tenets of its constitution.  This requires
> >an educated and courageous people with a body of faithful
> >representatives.  The system is good, we've just strayed from it.
>
> Whether the system was good or not, it was fraught with robber barons
> from the start. All the king's horses and all the king's men...
>
> This has been going on for a very long time, it's an ancient
> struggle, between the people on the one hand and on the other the
> powerful few and the intitutions they spawn. For some perspective:
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg32878.html
> Re: [biofuel] The Oil we eat (Harper's)
>
> Full text of Manning's article in Harper's:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg31874.html
> [biofuel] The Oil We Eat: Following the food chain back to Iraq
>
> Also, regarding economics, do you know of the work of Nicholas
> Georgescu-Roegen?
>
> http://cepa.newschool.edu/het/profiles/georgescu.htm
> Nicholas Georgescu-Roegen, 1906-1994
>
> There's some of his work here:
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg30418.html
> [biofuel] Energy and Economic Myths
> Selections from "Energy and Economic Myths" by Nicholas Georgescu-Roegen
>
> His inheritors are the ecological economists, such as Herman Daly,
> Robert Costanza, Michael T. Klare, Joshua Farley and others.
>
> More:
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg34131.html
> [biofuel] From Here to Economy
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg30417.html
> [biofuel] How Much Is Nature Worth? For You, $33 Trillion
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg34130.html
> [biofuel] At What Cost? - Costanza
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg34129.html
> [biofuel] The Wealth of Nature
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg34207.html
> Re: [biofuel] The Wealth of Nature
>
> That's a good read.
>
> Then there's this, on what the stakes are today and how we might meet them:
> http://journeytoforever.org/rrlib/greenspan.html
> Toward a Psychology of Interdependency
> A Framework for Understanding Global Conflict and Cooperation
> Stanley I. Greenspan, M.D. and Stuart G. Shanker, D.Phil.
>
> "Required reading," said Mike DuPree.
>
> The ancient (un)equation of people vs power has a whole new element
> these days, one which makes a critical difference - no Internet, no
> "Other Superpower". With the Internet, the Global Village is the only
> superpower that counts.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> >On 12/29/06, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > From: Rachel's Democracy & Health News #887, Dec. 28, 2006
> > > <http://www.precaution.org/lib/06/prn_capitalism_3.0_part2.061221.htm>
> > >
> > > Capitalism 3.0, Part 2
> > >
> > > By Peter Montague
> > >
> > > Peter Barnes describes our current economic system as capitalism 2.0
> > > or "surplus capitalism," because its main problem is finding buyers
> > > for the gushing fire hydrant of goods that the system so easily
> > > produces.
> > >
> > > Barnes says surplus capitalism has three evident faults -- it is
> > > devouring creation, it is producing ever-widening disparities between
> > 

Re: [Biofuel] Capitalism 3.0, Part 2

[Frank Navarrete]

I think the common trust would fall subject to corruption like the
rest of our well planned US government.  The fore-fathers created
preventative measures for our modern woes, which unfortunately have
been used against their original intentions.  The only thing that
keeps a good government on paper from becoming a bad one in practice
is adherence to the simple tenets of its constitution.  This requires
an educated and courageous people with a body of faithful
representatives.  The system is good, we've just strayed from it.

On 12/29/06, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Rachel's Democracy & Health News #887, Dec. 28, 2006
> 
>
> Capitalism 3.0, Part 2
>
> By Peter Montague
>
> Peter Barnes describes our current economic system as capitalism 2.0
> or "surplus capitalism," because its main problem is finding buyers
> for the gushing fire hydrant of goods that the system so easily
> produces.
>
> Barnes says surplus capitalism has three evident faults -- it is
> devouring creation, it is producing ever-widening disparities between
> rich and poor, and it largely ignores the needs of future
> generations. Barnes proposes to solve these three problems not by
> abandoning capitalism but by giving it a software upgrade -- turning
> it into capitalism 3.0.
>
> Peter Barnes believes that the corporate sector of the U.S. economy
> and culture has grown so large and powerful that it cannot be
> regulated or made "socially responsible" to any significant degree.
> In this regard the book is deeply pessimistic about the future of
> democracy and of the viability of the natural world.
>
> During the 19th century,
> the corporation evolved
> into an institution legally required to fulfill a single purpose --
> to provide a steady return on investment capital garnered from
> strangers. This they do exceedingly well. As a result, since 1830
> corporations have grown exponentially and without limit. Now fully
> 2/3rds of U.S. gross domestic product (GDP) is created by the largest
> 500 corporations. (pg. 22) As part of their natural behavior,
> corporations privatize our common wealth, extracting whatever they
> need from nature, community and culture -- and they externalize their
> costs by dumping wastes into the environment, minimizing their tax
> contributions, and reducing pay and eliminating health-care and
> pension benefits for workers to the extent allowed by law. (In
> Barnes's view, the corporate globalization project is largely driven
> by a relentless search for cheap labor. For a brief period in our
> history, labor unions provided a countervailing power to the
> corporations, but Peter Barnes believes that that time is gone,
> presumably forever.)
>
> Using the basic strategy of privatization and externalization,
> corporations have consolidated wealth for a fortunate few -- the 5%
> of Americans who now own more wealth than the other 95% combined.
> (pg. 27) (Barnes does not say so, but, importantly, the structure of
> the modern transnational corporation is the antithesis of democratic
> decision-making. As a secondary, unanticipated result of the
> corporate ascendancy, all the institutions of our culture have fallen
> under the influence of the corporate elite -- including legislatures,
> the judiciary, and the executive branch, but also the mass media, our
> schools and colleges, churches, elections, workplace policies and
> conditions, foreign trade, foreign policy, the military. Almost
> without exception, all the institutions of our culture are now
> disciplined by a hierarchical corporate perspective, and by the
> narrow corporate quest for ever-growing wealth.)
>
> Because the corporate sector cannot be reined in to any significant
> degree, Peter Barnes believes, we must create an entirely new sector
> within the economy to act as a counterbalance to corporate influence.
> This he calls the "commons sector" and it would be created by
> "propertizing" the commons but NOT privatizing the commons. The
> commons would be "propertized" by giving everyone shares in it --
> shares they receive at birth and own, but which they cannot sell,
> trade or pass on to their heirs.
>
> By "the commons" Barnes means,
>
> 1. Nature, which includes air, water, DNA, photosynthesis, seeds,
> topsoil, airwaves, minerals, animals, plants, antibiotics, oceans,
> fisheries, aquifers, quiet, wetlands, forests, rivers, lakes, solar
> energy, wind energy... and so on;
>
> 2. Community: streets, playgrounds, the calendar, holidays,
> universities, libraries, museums, social insurance [e.g., social
> security], law, money, accounting standards, capital markets,
> political institutions, farmers' markets, flea markets, craigslist...
> etc.;
>
> 3. Culture: language, philosophy, religion, physics, chemistry,
> musical instruments, classical music, jazz, ballet, hip-hop,
> astronomy, electronics, the 

Re: [Biofuel] Top scientists say man may need to dirty skies to shield against warming - CP Wire - 2006.11.16

[Frank Navarrete]

The powers that be want the human race to be regurgitated from Earth
as soon as possible.

On 12/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There has been some experimentation with white roofs in the American south
> and they make a useful contribution to reducing the need for air
> conditioning.
> I found several internet sites which discussed this from a search a couple
> of years ago.
>
> Black asphalt roads are useful in clearing the ice from roads in winter.
>
> Some time ago, white painted cars were more vulnerable to rust. I don't
> know if it is still the case. They provide poor contrast in winter.
> Something that stands out better is safer.
>
> Doug Woodard
> St. Catharines, Ontario
>
>
> > If all new and replaced roofs were white how much would that do?
> >   What if highways were white?
> > What if the cars on them and so on.
> >   Kirk
> >
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Re: [Biofuel] humanure to humus

[Frank Navarrete]

In the hopes of helping Mr. Habasco, Michigan seems to have legislation in
place protecting its citizens from eminent domain.  Here's a helpful link:

http://www.michigan.gov/gov/0,1607,7-168-23442_21974-152298--,00.html

It specifically states that the legislation (which I assume is now in
effect), makes it difficult for the State to make the determination that
property is "blighted".  I suppose this would be their only reason for
taking his property.  As long as he has good title to his land, I don't see
how it can be lawfully taken away from him, especially when, as pointed out,
proper composting eliminates any threatening pathogens.  What else is there
to argue for his case?

On 12/26/06, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi Mary Lynn

>I think it's the same principle .. what goes in is what comes out.
>
>I read a great deal and don't necessarily remember exactly where my
source
>was but, I understand that it was standard practice for little men with
>small wagons to take the "overnight" pots from the homes in the cities in
>Japan and use that human manure as fertilizer in the country ..

All over the East, not just Japan. See.:
http://www.soilandhealth.org/01aglibrary/010122king/ffc.html
F. H. King: Farmers of Forty Centuries

Full text online. If you can't access it go here first and sign in at
the Agriculture Library:
http://www.soilandhealth.org/

>our
>returning American military people thought this was on the side of
>disgusting (American Puritan backgrounds getting into their usual
judgments
>concerning other cultures and practices) .. but .. whatever I read
supported
>this practice because the diet of the average Japanese family was very
low
>in meat.

Not exactly, in some places it was quite high in meat, as well as a
lot of fish.

>I can't even remember reading anything about this one .. probably just
>something I've heard said forever .. but the best manure comes from the
>grass eating animals which leaves out the average American, the dogs and
the
>cats etc because of the poor quality and large amount of meat that is
>consumed while dogs and cats are both basically carnivores.

Biodynamic farmers set special store by cow manure, and when it's
properly practised Biodynamics is a high-quality system, but IMHO
that's because of the whole system, not just the cowdung. Cow and
sheep manure are the basis of the ley farming system, which is based
on rotating pastures, but pigs have a place in that scheme too,
omnivores. We've demonstrated here that the same thing can be
achieved by ley farming with poultry. We're using geese, which are
mostly vegetarian, and chickens and Muscovy ducks, both omnivores.
There's no doubt about the fertility value of their manure.

I have a set of three manuals on Organic Recycling published by the
FAO (UN Food and Agriculture Organization) which give analytical data
on all those manures, plus exotic stuff like tiger dung, lion dung
and indeed human excreta. After all, Nature isn't choosy about it,
all manure is recycled, with benefit to the soil, it's designed that
way.

You can make high-quality compost with any kind of manure.

But I think you're confusing the quality of the compost - its value
as a fertiliser - with the efficiency of the composting process as a
sanitation method. Once again, any kind of manure can be safely
composted if the usual parameters are followed (C:N ratio, moisture
content, aeration, bulk). I said in a previous message what the
temperature requirements are, according to the UN and according to
the US EPA, and if those requirements are met then the compost will
be pathogen-free. A competent compost maker can easily do that with
any manure.

>So with that being the basis of my thinking on this subject, my guess is
>that a general study will not support human to fertilizer as being a good
>practice because that same general study would also have all those
McDonalds
>Happy Meals in the mix.

Junk food composts just fine, and all the additives get broken down too.

Also, compost only requires about 20% manure, what the other 80%
consists of can make a big difference.

>.. but if there ever were an actual study done then perhaps a study
>comparing horse, cow, chicken manure from small family farms against the
>same species manure from factory farms and feed lots.

In the US especially you'd be contending with large amounts of
antibiotics in the feedlot stuff, for one thing, not exactly friendly
to the composting microorganisms, but it seems they manage anyway.

I agree that the health of the animals (and the system) is an
important factor. Farmers converting to organic methods find that
both the quality of the livestock manure and the quality of the
compost it makes improve as the soil fertility improves, and the
nutritional quality of the feed with it.

So I don't think it makes much if any difference which species the
manure comes from, but I'd agree that some cows/pigs/chickens/humans
are more equal than others. We've brought in bo

Re: [Biofuel] FDA May Clear Cloned Food

[Frank Navarrete]

As the furthest departure from nature, cloning will undoubtedly yield poor
meat with no nutrition.  If Weston A. Price's book on the effects of modern
nutrition on the health of certain primitive cultures is a sign of things to
come, clone-food will likely introduce the final frontier of degeneration.

See:  http://www.journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html


On 12/26/06, D. Mindock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 FDA May Clear Cloned Food, But Public Has Little AppetiteDespite Safety
Data, Americans Largely Find Idea UnappealingBy Rick Weiss
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, December 25, 2006; Page A16

Consumer advocates and others have complained bitterly in recent years
that the Food and Drug Administration has veered from its scientific roots,
making decisions on controversial matters -- such as the emergency
contraceptive "Plan B" -- on political rather than scientific grounds.
Now comes a test of just how rational the public wants the FDA to be.
Later this week, the agency is expected to release a formal recommendation
that milk and meat from cloned animals should be allowed on grocery store
shelves. The long-awaited decision comes as polling data to be released this
week show that the public continues to have little appetite for such food,
with many people saying the FDA should keep it off the market.
The FDA decision is based on a substantial cache of data from rigorous
studies, all of which have concluded that milk and meat from cloned animals
is virtually identical to such products from conventional animals.
Scientists have also been unable to detect health problems in laboratory
animals raised on clonal food.
By contrast, studies have found that consumers' discomfort with the idea
of eating food from clones is largely based on vague emotions. Indeed, polls
have repeatedly found that the public understands little about what cloning
really is.
That raises the issue: Should decisions such as this one be based solely
on science, or should officials take into account public sensitivities,
which may be unscientific but are undeniably real?
Regulators and leaders of the handful of companies poised to enter the
cloned-food market say this is a chance for the government and the public to
hew to the facts.
"There is no science-based reason" to withhold clone-derived meat or milk
from the market or to require that they be labeled as such, FDA scientists
conclude in a report in the Jan. 1 issue of the journal Theriogenology.
But others say people cannot help but be emotional about food, and those
feelings deserve consideration -- if for no other reason than because
ignoring them could weaken confidence in the food supply.
"There is more to this issue than just food safety," said Susan Ruland of
the International Dairy Foods Association, which represents such major
companies as Kraft Foods and Dannon. The organization's member companies are
concerned that sales of U.S. dairy products could drop by 15 percent or
more if the FDA allows the sale of meat and milk from clones.
"There's a real trust in milk as a wholesome provider of core nutrition in
your diet," Ruland said. "You don't want to fool around with that."
Some farm-state legislators share that concern. In a Dec. 11 letter to
Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt, Sen. Patrick J. Leahy
(D-Vt.) and six other senators asked that the FDA submit its plan to a
scientific review board and take other steps to get more public input. As of
Friday, Leavitt had not responded.
Scientists make clones from single cells taken from animals they want to
replicate. The process involves growing a cell into an embryo in a
laboratory dish, then transferring the embryo to the womb of a surrogate
mother animal. The resulting critter is a genetic twin of the animal that
donated the starter cell.
Relatively few cloned farm animals exist; there are an estimated 150
clones out of the nation's 9 million dairy cows. But biotechnology companies
are gearing up to clone farmers' tastiest cattle and pigs and most
productive dairy cows -- a move they say will help consumers get reliably
high-quality meat and milk products, day after day.
A voluntary moratorium, imposed by the FDA several years ago, has until
now kept products from clones and their offspring off the market -- although
a few farmers have said they have slaughtered and sold some offspring of
clones, having grown tired of waiting for a final decision from the FDA.
Backed by recent safety studies, the FDA is poised to release a "draft
risk assessment" concluding that such products should be allowed on the
market. The public will be able to submit comments before a final policy is
implemented.
Timed to match the FDA action, two polls relating to food from clones are
slated for release this week. Each involved about 1,000 American adults.
One poll, commissioned by the University of Maryland's Center for Food,
Nutrition, and Agriculture Policy, asked people what they would do if the
FDA determined 

Re: [Biofuel] Composting human manure

[Frank Navarrete]

A couple of links I found from Michigan's Dept of Agriculture which are
obviously in favor of composting:

http://www.michigan.gov/mda/0,1607,7-125-1566_2311_2317-8030--,00.html

http://www.michigan.gov/mda/1,1607,7-125-1566_2311_2317-8032--,00.html

I'm not sure what conflict there is between the health department and the
Dept of Agrigulture, but there seems to be something missing.  Has Mr.
Habasco sought legal council?


On 12/24/06, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thankyou Doug

>Some extra information from Tom Habasco.
>
>Doug Woodard
>St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
>
>*
>
>the state is Michigan,Charlevoix county,Melrose twp.
>Michigan has legislation , Act 421-PA 1986 which allows for composting
>humanure.The local health dept. does not recognize.
> My compost does not leave the property, I cannot sell it, nor do I sell
any
>food grown.
>  They complain that composting humanure is illegal.

I don't quite understand: is it just that they don't recognise the
state legislation, or are there actually local ordnances stating that
it is illegal? If so, on what grounds?

Reminds me of a friend from London who visited when we were living in
rural Wiltshire, and later found his big-city car hopelessly parked
in by two tractors. He told the tractor drivers: "But there's no sign
saying you can't park here." They replied: "There's no sign saying
you can."

>We are headed for circuit court where I iether keep or lose my home and
>property. As a military vet, an enviromentalist, an organic farmer, a
>certified horticulturist, an honorary member of "the tip of the mit
>watershed council" we clean waterways, I cannot believe this is
happening.
> And I agree that the health dept. should have to disprove composting
>effiecency.
> please lead me to documents in support of advantages of composting for
>ammunition in court.  Thank You.

Joseph Jenkins' Humanure book has a good reference section, it's a
good place to start - full text free online:

http://www.weblife.org/humanure/references.html
weblife.org: Humanure Handbook: References

Or this:

"The EPA published Part 503 biosolids regulations in the Federal
Register on February 19, 1993. A major focus of these regulations is
pathogen control. A standard is set in which compost must be held at
55C for a period of time, dependent on the process used to thermally
inactivate pathogens. For within-vessel composting or the static
aerated pile composting the temperature must be held at 55C or higher
for three days. For windrow composting, the temperature must be held
at 55C or higher for 15 days with a minimum turning of the windrow
five times. This high temperature composting insures complete
inactivation of pathogens."

-- Humanure - Preparation of Compost from the Toilet for use in the Garden
Appalachia--Science in the Public Interest
http://www.a-spi.org/tp/tp41.htm

HTH

Keith



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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: humanure to humus

[Frank Navarrete]

In Florida, there is an extension service provided by the University of
Florida which provides all kinds of information on farming and agriculture
to the general public.  Does the local university have a program like that
in your area?  If so, they can probably provide plenty of scientific
evidence in your favor, especially if you can find a professor who is
willing to help you.  Can the health dept. really prove it's human anyhow?

On 12/22/06, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Can anyone help Tom?

He's not a list member, but I'll refer him to any discussions here.

Thanks!

All best

Keith


>From: "tom habasco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: humanure to humus
>Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006
>
>Hello my name is Tom Habasco and I will be going into circuit court
>in order to defend my right to compost. I am the 5th generation of
>organic farming family.We have known of the benefits of this for
>many decades.
>  Unfortunately the local health people tell me it is illegal for me
>to compost humanure, as it is explained by Joseph Jenkins in his
>book.Now they have a signed order which makes my home and lifestyle
>illegal . They say that there is no scientific proof that composting
>humanure works or that it is safe. I personally have been growing
>fruits and veggie's for the plate to eat for many years. In my
>defense I must say I have never become ill from my gardens. I have
>no illness whatsoever and take no medication for anything.
>  How do we convince these youngsters at the so called "health
>dept's" that composting is safe and a much better approach to our
>handling of the environment than there septic approach?
>  I need proof and support that you may have to fight for my right
>to own property live on that property, farm my small gardens "
>under half acre of gardens" and compost including humanure.If I fail
>at this I will be ordered off my property and my home will be moved
>away by them at my cost.
> This is not an option , that is why it is of the utmost importance
>that I seek help from like minded people like you to help[ support
>me and my decision to make a lifestyle change and help the earth by
>becoming less dependant on fossil fuels like oil.
> Thank you for your time, if you can please respond before Jan 3 2007,


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Re: [Biofuel] Duke Interview about Zionism - Not to be missed...

[Frank Navarrete]

Freedom of speech (and thought), is certainly being threatened in our
country right now.  So much so that I almost thought twice about writing
this.  ALL ideas should be open for dialogue.  That's what a civilized
society is -- diplomatic, peaceful and open.

On 12/21/06, Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:






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Re: [Biofuel] Herbicide-resistant weed worries farmers

[Frank Navarrete]

Peter,
I live in an area where there is an abundance of palm berries going to
waste.  Is the berry and seed the source of palm oil?  Do you just crush
them to extract the oil?

Thanks,

Frank Navarrete


On 12/20/06, Guag Meister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi Keith ;

> So we just can't farm without Monsanto, right.

Sensible question.  Unfortunately the article does not
propose reducing the use of herbicides but only
increasing their use.  Don't they understand that it
is only a matter of time before another weed becomes
resistant to the new cocktail and even worse than the
first?

Where does it end? The logical conclusion is the
creation of wide variety of superweeds which will
create havoc for all farmers.  Don't they see this
coming???  Apparently not.

> How is your patch of forest getting along, Peter?

Lots of things are doing really well, thanks.  But it
is a big project for me.  I'm pretty tired.

Anyone interested in my energy farm project can see
progress pics at :

www.cresard.com/pr01

The plan for this year is (budget permitting) :

1) Biogas from pig s**t.
2) Set up the ethanol still.
3) Get the wind turbine working.
4) 10K more teak seeds arriving Friday.
5) More of pigs, cattle, chickens, rabbits.
6) Plant about 10K oil palms this rainy season.
7) Dry season farming.
8) Breadfruit (for ethanol) and diesel tree (for
diesel).

> Best

And Best to you Keith.

Peter G.
Thailand (and Cambodia)



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Re: [Biofuel] The Repeatedly Re-Elected Autocrat

[Frank Navarrete]

Hi Keith,

Thanks for all of your efforts on the Journey to Forever website and in this
list.

While a summary opinion of the state of the US Elections process can't be
found on the Carter Center website, they certainly have been keeping track
of the shortcomings of the US system since 2000.  After the 2000 election, a
newsletter called for the uniformity of voting machines throughout the US,
somewhat pushing for the use of electronic voting machines which were
already in use in certain foreign countries that they monitor elections for
(i.e. Mexico).  The focus was on the inadequacy of US technology in voting,
but not on fraud.  Here's a link:
http://www.cartercenter.org/documents/211.pdf.

Perhaps regretting their call for such a switch electronic voting machines
and not predicting the ability to manipulate such systems, the Center held a
conference in March, 2005 (as oulined on the following link) regarding what
to beware of in coming elections:
http://www.cartercenter.org/documents/nondatabase/automatedsummary.pdf

As Robert F. Kennedy Jr. contends in his recent Rolling Stone article (
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen)
the 2004 presidential election might have been stolen via voter machine
fraud.

I don't think the Carter Center was quite prepared for the unprecedented
wrong doing of the Bush administration.  Perhaps in the coming elections
they will try to have some legislation passed or keep a stricter eye on the
events to ensure the accuracy of the outcome of our vote.


On 12/17/06, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello Frank

>Does the Carter Center approve of US elections?

If you mean post-2000, not if they have any sense.

This report is in the list archives:

http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2452/
-- In These Times
December 29, 2005
Ghosts in the Voting Machines
By Joel Bleifuss



The GAO concluded: "Until these efforts are completed, there is a
risk that many state and local jurisdictions will rely on voting
systems that were not developed, acquired, tested operated, or
managed in accordance with rigorous security and reliability
standards."

Rep. Conyers responded to the report this way: "I am shocked at the
extent and nature of problems that GAO has identified. ... It is
incumbent upon Congress to respond to this problem and to enact much
needed reforms such as a voter verified paper audit trail that
protects all Americans' right to vote."

Carter weighs in

Former President Jimmy Carter has voiced concerns similar to Conyers'.

Few people are as familiar with running fair elections as he. The
Carter Center has monitored more than 50 elections worldwide.

In a September 2004 Washington Post article, Carter predicted that
the looming presidential election would be as contentious as the one
in 2000, with Florida again at the center of the storm. He wrote that
"some basic international requirements for a fair election are
missing in Florida," the most "significant" of which were:

* A nonpartisan electoral commission or a trusted and nonpartisan
official who will be responsible for organizing and conducting the
electoral process before, during or after the actual voting takes
place.
* Uniformity in voting procedures, so that all citizens, regardless
of their social or financial status, have equal assurance that their
votes are cast in the same way and will be tabulated with equal
accuracy.

"With reforms unlikely at this late stage of the election, perhaps
the only recourse will be to focus on maximum public scrutiny on the
suspicious process in Florida," he wrote.

As Carter predicted, in 2004 Florida again featured prominently, if
less publicly, as a state where incidents of voter suppression and
alleged election fraud tilted the vote toward George W. Bush. But the
big story in 2004 was the swing state of Ohio, where the presidential
election is thought to have been decided.

Carter weighed in again, in September 2005, when the Commission on
Federal Election Reform released its report. Carter and James Baker
III, co-chairs of the commission, wrote in the report's introduction:
"We propose ways to give confidence to voters using electronic voting
machines that their votes will be counted accurately. We call for an
auditable backup on paper at this time."



Anyway I'm sure you can find out for yourself easily enough:

http://www.cartercenter.org/homepage.html
The Carter Center: Advancing Human Rights and Alleviating Suffering

http://www.oas.org/main/english/
Organization of American States - OAS

http://europa.eu/
Europa - The European Union On-Line

Let us know, won't you?

Best

Keith


>On 12/15/06, Keith Addison
><<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
><http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3009>http://www.fair.org/index.ph
>p?page=3009
>Extra! November/Dece

Re: [Biofuel] The Repeatedly Re-Elected Autocrat

[Frank Navarrete]

Does the Carter Center approve of US elections?

On 12/15/06, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3009
Extra! November/December 2006

The Repeatedly Re-Elected Autocrat
Painting Chávez as a 'would-be dictator'

By Steve Rendall

Hugo Chávez never had a chance with the U.S. press. Shortly after his
first electoral victory in 1998, New York Times Latin America
reporter Larry Rohter (12/20/98) summed up his victory thusly:

"All across Latin America, presidents and party leaders are looking
over their shoulders. With his landslide victory in Venezuela's
presidential election on December 6, Hugo Chávez has revived an
all-too-familiar specter that the region's ruling elite thought they
had safely interred: that of the populist demagogue, the
authoritarian man on horseback known as the caudillo."

Notwithstanding that interring caudillos has not been a consuming
passion of Latin America's ruling elite (or U.S. policy makers), it
is fitting that the Times reporter sided with that elite. A few years
later, in April 2002, following Chávez's re-election by an even
greater margin, Times editors cheered a coup against Chávez by
Venezuelan elites (Extra! Update, 6/02), declaring in Orwellian
fashion that thanks to the overthrow of the elected president,
"Venezuelan democracy is no longer threatened by a would-be dictator."

For Pedro Carmona-the man who took power in Chávez's brief absence,
declaring an actual dictatorship by dismissing the Venezuelan
legislature, Supreme Court and other democratic institutions-Times
editors had much nicer language, calling the former head of
Venezuela's chamber of commerce "a respected business leader."

Following Chávez's return to office a few days later, Times editors
issued a grudging reappraisal of their coup endorsement (Extra!
Update!, 6/02). Still insisting that Chávez was "a divisive and
demagogic leader," the editors averred that the forcible removal of a
democratically elected leader "is never something to cheer."

As if this pro-opposition bias were not enough, in January 2003 the
Times was forced to dismiss one of its Venezuela reporters, a
Venezuelan national named Francisco Toro, when it was revealed that
Toro was an anti-Chávez activist (FAIR Action Alert, 6/6/03).

The Times anti-Chávez campaign was manifest in a recent book review
(9/17/06) of Nikolas Kozloff's Hugo Chávez: Oil, Politics and the
Challenge to the United States, in which Times business columnist
Roger Lowenstein rebuked the author for praising the Chávez
government, explaining that Chávez "has militarized the government,
emasculated the country's courts, intimidated the media, eroded
confidence in the economy and hollowed out Venezuela's
once-democratic institutions." But Lowenstein failed to provide much
evidence for his charges-a frequent characteristic of Chávez
bashing-or to note that similar charges can be made against other
governments, including one much closer to home.

Calling names
The New York Times is not alone. A Newsweek column (11/7/05) asserted
that Venezuela has turned to "destructive populism" under Chávez,
while a news report in the magazine (10/31/05) cited the
"increasingly authoritarian tilt of the Chávez regime, which has
packed the Venezuelan judiciary with pliable magistrates and enacted
legislation curtailing press freedoms." In his May 2006 Atlantic
profile, New Republic editor Franklin Foer complained that under
Chávez's presidency Venezuela had taken an "anti-democratic turn."

The Washington Post's news pages have relentlessly criticized Chávez
in news stories, calling him "autocratic" (8/12/04) and
"authoritarian" (8/7/06). However, a much more ferocious campaign is
waged against Chávez on the Post's editorial and op-ed pages. In one
column after another, the Post's opinion pages have charged him with
assaulting democracy and stifling dissent. In one column (10/16/06),
deputy editorial editor Jackson Diehl called Chávez an "autocratic
demagogue" and accused him of "dismantl[ing] Venezuela's democracy."
Editorial page editor Fred Hiatt (12/26/05) explained that Chávez had
"consolidated one-party rule and moved to export his brand of
populist autocracy to neighboring nations."

Even putative liberal commentators have joined the media chorus. On
the O'Reilly Factor (12/5/05), Fox News contributor and NPR reporter
Juan Williams said of Venezuela, "What you're seeing there is really
communism." In September, when Democratic operatives Paul Begala and
James Carville appeared on New York City public radio station WNYC
(9/25/06), Begala told host Brian Lehrer that Chávez was "an
autocrat, not a democrat," and said he had "a terrible human rights
record." Carville told Lehrer, "I've worked in Venezuela and I would
be very reluctant to call Chávez a democrat." What Carville didn't
say was that he worked in Venezuela as an advisor to Venezuelan
opposition groups leading an economically devastating strike by
managers of the national oil comp

Re: [Biofuel] SENATE CONTROL THREATENED BY TIM JOHNSON'S ILLNESS

[Frank Navarrete]

I wonder if some entity assisted this incident. ???

On 12/14/06, Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




**
*S.D. Sen. Johnson in Critical Condition*
**
*By MARY CLARE JALONICK, Associated Press Writer *

Democratic Sen. Tim Johnson of South Dakota was in critical but stable
condition Thursday after emergency brain surgery, creating political drama
over whether Democrats will control the new Senate next month if he is
unable to continue in office.

Johnson suffered from bleeding in the brain caused by a congenital
malformation, the U.S. Capitol physician said. He described the surgery as
successful. The condition, present at birth or immediately after, causes
tangled blood vessels that can block the flow of blood or rupture.

"The senator is recovering without complication," said the physician, Adm.
John Eisold. "It is premature to determine whether further surgery will be
required or to assess any long-term prognosis."

Eisold said doctors drained the blood that had accumulated in Johnson's
brain and stopped continued bleeding.

Democrats hold a fragile 51-49 margin in the new Senate that convenes Jan.
4. If Johnson leaves the Senate, the Republican governor of South Dakota
could appoint a Republican to fill the remaining two years of Johnson's term
— keeping the Senate in GOP hands with Vice President Dick Cheney's
tie-breaking power.

Johnson's condition, also known as AVM, or arteriovenous malformation,
causes arteries and veins to grow abnormally large and become tangled.

The condition is believed to affect about 300,000 Americans, according to
the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke. The institute's
Web site said only about 12 percent of the people with the condition
experience symptoms, ranging in severity. It kills about 3,000 people a
year.

The senator's wife, Barbara Johnson, said the family "is encouraged and
optimistic."

In a statement from Johnson's office Thursday, she said her family was
"grateful for the prayers and good wishes of friends, supporters and South
Dakotans."

A person familiar with Johnson's condition said the 59-year-old senator's
underlying condition caused the stroke-like symptoms and doctors will be
watching him closely for the next 24 to 48 hours. The person spoke on
condition of anonymity out of respect for the senator's family.

Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada visited Thursday morning. He
had visited the night before as well.

The emergency surgery lasted past midnight Wednesday

Apart from the risk to his health, Johnson's illness carried political
ramifications, coming so soon after the Democrats won control of the Senate.
If he were forced to relinquish his seat, a replacement would be named by
South Dakota's GOP Gov. Mike Rounds.

A Republican appointee would create a 50-50 tie, and allow the GOP to
retain Senate control.

Rounds' press secretary, Mark Johnston, said Thursday the governor was
watching events and had nothing new to say.

"We're watching as much as everyone else," he said. "The most important
thing is making sure Sen. Johnson is OK."

President Bush awoke Thursday to news of Johnson's condition, said first
lady Laura Bush. "We're praying like I know all the people of South Dakota
are for his very, very speedy recovery," Mrs. Bush told CBS's "Early Show."

Johnson, who turns 60 later this month, was admitted to George Washington
University hospital at midday after experiencing what his office initially
said was a possible stroke.

His spokeswoman, Julianne Fisher, later told reporters that it had been
determined that the senator had suffered neither a stroke nor a heart
attack.
Johnson became disoriented during a conference call with reporters,
stuttering in response to a question.

Before he ended the call, Johnson appeared to recover and asked whether
there were any additional questions.

Fisher said he then walked back to his Capitol office but appeared to not
be feeling well. The Capitol physician came to his office and examined him,
and it was decided he should go to the hospital.

He was taken to the hospital by ambulance around noon, Fisher said. "It
was caught very early," she said.

Johnson is up for re-election in 2008.

In 1969, another South Dakota senator, Karl Mundt, a Republican, suffered
a stroke while in office. Mundt continued to serve until the end of his term
in January 1973, although he was unable to attend Senate sessions and was
stripped of his committee assignments by the Senate Republican Conference in
1972.

Johnson, who was elected in 1996, holds the same seat previously held by
Mundt.

South Dakota Secretary of State Chris Nelson said there were no special
restrictions on an appointment by the governor and a replacement would not
have to be from the same political party.

The Senate last convened with a perfect balance of 50 Republicans and 50
Democrats in January 2001. Then, the two parties struck a power-sharing
agreement that gave control of the Senate to Republicans but gave Demo

Re: [Biofuel] How to Hedge

[Frank Navarrete]

Sometimes things do take several years to accomplish.  I would start working
towards your goal of owning land now, with a possible realization in 5 or 10
years.  It may seem far away now, but imagine if you had started 5 or 10
years ago.  You would be there today.  Patience and persistence.

On 12/7/06, Jason& Katie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


family farming and barter. you could also try asking your neighbors if you
can borrow a corner of their yards in trade for a supply of vegetables.
people need food, and they most likely would be willing to give you needed
supplies or help with work in trade for it. i say start stockpiling
preserves and canning vegetables, food is money.
Jason
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> As I watch and learn it's interesting to note that hedging against an
> economic collapse is a difficult thing.  For instance, I don't own land
> that I can use to plant crops, raise live stock, and generally subside
on.
> Further, in order to get such land I either have to wait several years
to
> save enough money or go into debt.  Normally, a small amount of debt
would
> not be of concern.  But when an economy collapses, debt is one of the
> biggest concerns.  So how does one hedge without going into debt?
>
> I posit that co-ops are an option but they too become vulnerable in a
> depression.  Any ideas?
>
> -dave
>
> On Wednesday, December 06, 2006  9:27 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote:
>>
>>Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 19:27:54 -0800 (PST)
>>From: Kirk McLoren
>>To: biofuel 
>>Subject: [Biofuel] solar cell achieves 40.7% conversion efficiency
>>
>>http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/06/027228
>>
>>  "...with DOE funding, a concentrator solar cell produced by
>> Boeing-Spectrolab has recently achieved a world-record conversion
>> efficiency of 40.7 percent, establishing a new milestone in
>> sunlight-to-electricity performance."
>>
>>
>>-
>>Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.
>
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Re: [Biofuel] The Death of a Compost Bin

[Frank Navarrete]

If you have the room, you can create a square with bales of hay which
contribute to the process as they also decompose.  They will expand and
contract with changing temperatures.

On 12/8/06, Jason& Katie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 i suggest a steel drum on a hand dolly.
Jason
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*Sent:* Friday, December 08, 2006 7:01 PM
*Subject:* [Biofuel] The Death of a Compost Bin


Although I don't do all of my composting in a bin, nearly all of our
household table scraps and the entire collection of waste from our bunny
cage went into a black plastic compost bin.  Please note the past tense verb
. . .

About a week or so ago, we had a blast of arctic air sweep through this
area.  Temperatures plummeted and with the outflow winds howling out of the
east, windchills of -20 C lasted for two or three days.  (I know that some
of you further east will probably laugh at this, but for those of us who
live near the ocean, -20 is pretty cold!)  The moisture in my compost bin
expanded as it froze, literally warping or shattering the plastic bin.

The whole thing actually fell over this morning.  I went out to clean up
the mess and found the top third of the contents completely preserved and
uncomposted (big surprise, it's been cold, right?), the middle third
consisted of a singular mass of partially composted, frozen material, while
the bottom third remained warm enough to keep on decomposing.

But the composter is toast.  I'll have to construct another one because
I'm NOT going to use plastic again . . .  What do the rest of you use for
compost bin construction material?


robert luis rabello
"The Edge of Justice"
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[Biofuel] Dynoil announces it will build a 100, 000 barrel per day Bio-Diesel Refinery in the Houston, Texas

[Frank Bergmans]

Dynoil announces it will build a 100,000 barrel per day Bio-Diesel Refinery in 
the Houston, Texas
 
This is really big. Can anyone tell me how serious this announcement is? Is 
this a well known company? I cannot find any company website. Maybe it's 
related to Dynoil Energy (http://dynoilenergy.com/ <http://dynoilenergy.com/> ) 
which hardly provides much more information.
 
For the press release follow this link: 
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/4/prweb376066.htm 
<http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/4/prweb376066.htm>  
 
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Re: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY

[Frank Marlowe]

I'm almost finished building my processing system, what is your
secret   Love to incorporate it before hardware completion.


Frank A. Marlowe
North Alabama


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Subject: [Biofuel] BETTER MIXING BETTER BIODIESEL LESS ENERGY

Wouldst it be cool if we had a way of doing these:
IMPROVING THE SAFE HANDLING OF CHEMICALS?
Injecting all our chemicals into our oil without pouring them in?
During the process of injection, getting a better than 90% total mix?
Keep the top 1" (where any unmixed Methoxil sits in your processor) 
mixed with the rest?
Reclaim the methanol from the glycerin of the last batch right back into 
the fresh oil of a new batch?
Reclaim the methanol from the Biodiesel before washing (allowing for a 
washing experience you may not have ever experienced)?

Well I do have a way and I would like to share it, Joe Street and I have 
both been developing this technique along parallel lines of thought and 
it works so well, and it IMPROVES  SAFETY.

Better than that it cost's about 20 bucks to add to your processor.

Reply if you want to know if I'm tooting bull or like Bob Allen says, 
"can give the proof of the pudding" - this car does not run on water. ;^)

Jim



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RE: [Biofuel] Bush wants to shift global warming debate

[Frank Dungan]

I'm a 
nice guy - no flame suit required, but I see no real 
answers...
 
I hate 
feeding our enemies as much as anybody. What was the solution? 

World 
government? That's a little scary, and the UN is a disaster.
It 
takes energy to keep this many people alive in the world. The question is how do 
we pull it off?
 
 
 
 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Joe 
  StreetSent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:28 AMTo: 
  Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: Re: [Biofuel] Bush wants to 
  shift global warming debate
  


   
  I you have any viable real world solutions lets hear 
  it.Excuse me while I put 
  my jack boots onHow about we hijack the mainstream media and 
  start brainwashing people with the notion that life is not about immediate 
  gratification. (Don't expect the sheeple of america to go searching for the 
  truth on the internet - no they need to be spoonfed)  That there is a 
  cost involved in everything we do, every choice we make, and that they need to 
  consider that they might expect to live with less so that others can live with 
  something. That we collectively in the developed world are complicit in all 
  the death, suffering and destruction that takes place in this world, as a 
  result of turning a blind eye while supporting the the selfish exploitive 
  practices that bring all the above into existence in this world. That they are 
  voting with thier dollars and currently they are voting for their own worst 
  enemies and by doing so are creating a sense of hatred in other places in the 
  minds of terrorists ( or is it freedom fighters I forget? ) who are attacking 
  them as a result. Once we have people convinced to lower thier standard of 
  living we can then mobilize them to kick the bastards out and enact a 
  worldwide system of referendum to decide how we proceed with issues that need 
  to be addressed. Here's a novel idea; we could even call it the united nation 
  or something stupid like that.  Heck we could spread some nukes around so 
  that everyone at the table gets an equal share of respect while we're at it. 
  Yeah there's nothing like the respect you get when you pull up your chair and 
  lay your .45 down on the discussion table beside you.  So how do you like 
  me so far?Jack boots offflame suit 
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RE: [Biofuel] Bush wants to shift global warming debate

[Frank Dungan]

Before 
you throw up... Can you tell us the solution?
 
Bio-fuel, wind, and solar are great starts on energy, but all combined 
are still a tiny drop in the bucket up against fossil fuels.
 
∙ If 
the oil stops - we starve.
∙   Ties to middle east oil are likely to drag us into WWIII 
(consult your Bible & nightly news for details).
∙   Kyoto as it stands is nothing but a money and 
political power grab, I wouldn't support it either (and yes I have read 
it).
∙   Hydrogen/fuel cell cars are the low hanging 
fruit here, we can possibly cut auto fuel usage 
by 30%-40% through efficiency.
 
I 
remember the fuel crisis of the 70's that resulted minor long term 
changes. 
Seams 
to me we do need a short term and long term policy...
 
 ∙  Short term, get as far away from the evils as possible 
(environmental, political, and economic).
 ∙  Long term, exploit every energy source 
possible.
 
I you 
have any viable real world solutions lets hear it.
 
O-yes, 
I live in Kansas where people are fighting against wind farms (we are a 
high wind state) because it disrupts their view of the country 
side.
 
 
 
   

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Michael 
  RedlerSent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 4:50 PMTo: 
  Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: Re: [Biofuel] Bush wants to 
  shift global warming debate
  
  
  OK, I've been a little preoccupied lately and haven't been able 
  to contributions to recent discussions. However, one of Kieth's recent 
  posts caught my attention.
  Please allow me to vent. 
  ...I'm quoting parts of Kieth's post in reverse order.
  "My hope is -- and I think the hope of Tony Blair is -- to move beyond 
  the Kyoto debate and to collaborate on new technologies that will enable 
  the United States and other countries to diversify away from fossil fuels 
  so that the air will be cleaner and that we have the economic and national 
  security that comes from less dependence on foreign sources of oil," Bush 
  said."Bush spoke of his administration's investment of $20 billion 
  (16.55 billion euros) in developing hydrogen-powered vehicles, 
  zero-emission power stations and other technology."
  Bush's position shifts like the tide -- like 
  a tide resulting from global warming and which might swallow 
  Bangladesh.He starts out with "...away from fossil fuels...", then 
  differentiates who's fossil fuels with "...less dependence on foreign sources 
  of oil". Finally, (In an earlier statement) he spoke of his 
  administrations $20 billion investment in hydrogen powered vehicles, 
  demonstrating his steadfast commitment to oil interests.
  He wants to project concern toward (only the most uneducated) 
  environmentalists with a technology that addresses the storage of energy and 
  not sustainable resources for conversion. At the same time, he chooses a 
  cause which the oil industry can actively participate. Finally, a low emphasis 
  on greenhouse gas emissions is an invitation for some companies to manufacture 
  "green" products with no regard to the manufacturing processes and how it 
  contributes to global warming -- thus, defeating the purpose.
  I think I need to throw up now.
  Mike 
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RE: [biofuel] VO in stationary generators was Re: Fwd: Sustainable BioDiesel

[Frank Bergmans]

Julian,
 
Check the link of Qlear which sells this kind of equipment: 
http://www.qlear.com/
 
Their brochure ( http://www.qlear.com/art/pdf/bps.pdf) gives some information 
about the system itself.
 
Frank Bergmans

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: jdautremontsmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: donderdag 6 mei 2004 11:04
Aan: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp: [biofuel] VO in stationary generators was Re: Fwd: Sustainable 
BioDiesel


Hello everyone,

One of the things that was new to me about this post was the 
contention that stationary diesel generators will run fine on just 
filtered vegetable oil.  Would this require a two tank set up like 
for automobiles or is this just because stationary generators are not 
as sensitive as automobile engines and thus can handle vegetable 
oil's viscosity?  Are there any precautions that need to be taken to 
protect the generator from damage (perhaps by running it with 
biodiesel periodically to clean any deposits)?  Does anyone have 
personal experience in using just filtered WVO in a stationary 
generator?

As always, thanks for all of your help ... this list is a great 
resource!

Julian

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> 
> >Date: 3 May 2004 19:14:59 -
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Sustainable BioDiesel
> >
> >Biodiesel is great, but there are a few things we should include 
in 
> >every conversation about Biodiesel:
> >
> >1) Imagine if just 10% of the people using petro-diesel switched 
to 
> >biodiesel - that would create demand for twice as much as the 
supply 
> >of waste oil available. While it is a great idea to process waste 
> >vegetable oil and use it again, promoting biodiesel as a 
replacement 
> >for petro-diesel with no modification in consumption is 
> >unsustainable and socially irresponsible.
> >
> >2) In that case, (even now already), oil formerly grown for food 
> >will be used for fuel instead. Example: a company named World 
Energy 
> >provides biodiesel to the Marine corps that is made from virgin 
soy 
> >oil. The military can afford it, regular folks can't. Using food 
as 
> >fuel to preserve overconsumptive lifestyles is unsustainable and 
> >socially irresponsible.
> >
> >3) America already consumes 6 to 10 times per capita the amount of 
> >energy consumed in the rest of the world, teaching people they can 
> >keep this up is unsustainable and socially irresponsible.
> >
> >4) It would be foolish to burn biodiesel in a stationary 
generator - 
> >it would run fine on vegetable oil with no processing beyond 
> >filtration. To promote biodiesel for generating electricity is 
> >unsustainable and socially irresponsible.
> >
> >5) Conservation. Again, western culture simply consumes too much. 
> >Devising alternative sources of energy to support unsustainable 
> >living is unsustainable and socially irresponsible.
> >
> >To be clear, biodiesel is far superior to petro-diesel in many 
> >regards, and will in fact help reduce climate change. However, to 
> >offer it as a replacement for petro-diesel at current consumption 
> >rates would be a disaster. It is imperative that consumption is 
> >reduced significantly, otherwise the legacy we will leave our 
> >descendants is unsustainable and socially irresponsible.
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RE: [biofuels-biz] information on combustion of used frying oils

[Frank Bergmans]

Todd,
 
Thanks for the link Todd. I'll write them an e-mail.  

The main reason to ask for the emission testing results are a worried 
government. WVO from restaurants always contains some animal fat. Some 
restaurants fry meat or meat products in the oil. A minor group of restaurants 
use animal fat as a frying oil. This worries the government when it comes to 
waste disposal. There are 2 EU regulations on air pollution from combustion. 
One for burning pure plant derived biomass and clean waste (2001/80/EC) and one 
for not clean waste including animal derived products (2000/76/EC). Since there 
have been some animal born diseases in Europe lately the government is very 
sensitive about waste disposal containing animal derived products. Even though 
the used frying oil comes from products fit for human consumption, this doesn't 
give enough guarantee for the government. For burning used frying oil one needs 
a permit from the local government. And one by one they ask the same questions. 
Up till now this mainly resulted in refusals to give a permit. I try to gather 
all necessary information in order to help the companies who collect frying oil 
from restaurants and sell it as a bio fuel to answer these questions. So if you 
or anyone also knows an organisation which has already done some combustion 
tests on used frying oil from restaurants I would be glad to know.

Frank

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Onderwerp: Re: [biofuels-biz] information on combustion of used frying oils


Frank,

Take a look at www.cleanburn.com

They're just a few hours from here in Pennsylvania. We ran
samples of Ohio crude straight out of the ground, straight
vegetable oil and biodiesel in one of their units (one of their
distributor's units in Ohio actually), all with fine results
relative to the functional ability of the fuels in comparison to
the waste motor oils they are designed to use.

Granted, that's not the same as emissions results. However, these
units are approved by the US EPA, which means that they have to
have conducted some emissions testing using waste motor oil.

Certainly WVO would be less toxic out of the chute than motor
oil, or at least one would tend to believe so.

Take a look. Perhaps e-mail them. If you need someone to make a
call, it could be done from our end relatively easily.

Todd Swearingen
Appal Energy

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> Hi everyone,
>
> At this moment I am writing a fact sheet about the use of used
Waste Vegetable Oil from restaurants. Since the ban on animal
feed WVO needs an alternative outlet. Because the Dutch
government is against tax redemption on bio diesel the most
relevant outlet at this moment is heating fuel in boilers to heat
for example glass houses. The product board helps the Dutch
collectors of WVO to maintain their quite successful collecting
system. Goal is to prevent WVO to disappear into a general waste
stream.
>
> Before issuing a permit, the government wants to know more
about the possible emissions to the air. Problem is that I don't
have this information. I have been searching the internet for
reports on experimental data on combustion of WVO in boilers. But
unfortunately I didn't find anything useful. Can anyone help me?
>
> Frank Bergmans
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[biofuels-biz] information on combustion of used frying oils

[Frank Bergmans]

Hi everyone,

At this moment I am writing a fact sheet about the use of used Waste Vegetable 
Oil from restaurants. Since the ban on animal feed WVO needs an alternative 
outlet. Because the Dutch government is against tax redemption on bio diesel 
the most relevant outlet at this moment is heating fuel in boilers to heat for 
example glass houses. The product board helps the Dutch collectors of WVO to 
maintain their quite successful collecting system. Goal is to prevent WVO to 
disappear into a general waste stream. 

Before issuing a permit, the government wants to know more about the possible 
emissions to the air. Problem is that I don't have this information. I have 
been searching the internet for reports on experimental data on combustion of 
WVO in boilers. But unfortunately I didn't find anything useful. Can anyone 
help me?

Frank Bergmans





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Re: [biofuels-biz] RFI

[frank]

Keith, I'm new to this so forgive some 'dumb' questions!
When you use the term bio-diesel, are you referring to 100% bio or a mix??
I've looked at the standard and I would assume its for 100% bio, right.  When we get into a blend, I would assume that since the bio contains no sulfur, that the total sulfur content comes from the petro.  I wonder how a blend would change the total sulfur content?  Is it simple math, since we have a 20% dilution per gallon??
I am in many discussions and the term b20 is used to indicate a 20/80 mix of bio/petro. My main interest is 'at the pump' what do we deleiver?? b20/b100 or n/n??
Tx, Frank
 
  Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>All.  I live in California and am trying to spread the use of >bio-diesel.  I recently ran into an issue:  The diesel fuel >regulations that are curretnly in place and the new ones on the >drawing board.  As I undestand them, the big issue is sulfur. >Current Ca. regs allow 150ppm..the new ones go down to 5ppm.  Does >anyone know the sulfur content of bio-diesel [b20]?  Is it >determined only by the petro-diesel componet of the bio-diesel?>>Tx, FrankHi FrankYes.Biodiesel is 11% oxygen by weight and contains no sulfur.http://www.biodiesel.org/fuelfactsheet.htmfuelfactsheetNBBAlso, you can use ULSD in any diesel engine if you add a little biodiesel for the lubrication. "Adding one percent biodie!
sel improves the lubricity up to 65 percent" (executive director of the NBB Joe Jobe). See Biodiesel Development Corporation -- Biodiesel: Cost Effective Lubricity Enhancer:http://pipeline.to/biodiesel/The French add 2%-5% - mostly 5% - for this reason.Keith AddisonBiofuels at Journey to Foreverhttp://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlBiofuel at WebConXhttp://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htmTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 



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[biofuels-biz] RFI

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All.  I live in California and am trying to spread the use of bio-diesel.  I recently ran into an issue:  The diesel fuel regulations that are curretnly in place and the new ones on the drawing board.  As I undestand them, the big issue is sulfur.  Current Ca. regs allow 150ppm..the new ones go down to 5ppm.  Does anyone know the sulfur content of bio-diesel [b20]?  Is it determined only by the petro-diesel componet of the bio-diesel?
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Re: [biofuels-biz] Help!! Continuous biodiesel plant wanted.( if the figures add up)

[frank]

 Harry, I have this link and have been meaning to send an email but haven't yet...Maybe you can investigate for usFrank
http://www.biodiesel.at/references.html
 
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Can anyone direct me to companies that sell continuous biodiesel plants.  I followed some links to one web site that looked promising and emailed a request for pricing and capacity details but have no reply a week later.Regards from HarryBiofuels at Journey to Foreverhttp://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlBiofuel at WebConXhttp://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htmTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 



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Re: [biofuel] Tallow

[Frank Wishart]

Hans
 I have emailed BDI and they have replied that they can not take any 
new enquires until they have reduced their backlog
Regards
Frank
  - Original Message - 
  From: Hanns B. Wetzel 
  To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 8:42 PM
  Subject: RE: [biofuel] Tallow


  This web site may be of interest to you
  http://www.biodiesel-intl.com/rohstoff_e/rohstoff.htm . It also is an
  Autrian company and they might give you some information about producing
  bio-d from high FFA feedstock.

  I am from Brisbane and have similar intersts so perhaps we could
  communicate?

  Hanns Wetzel

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  Subject: [biofuel] Tallow


  ,
  My name is Frank Wishart from Queensland Australia and i am
  interested in making BioDiesel from low grade tallow one of the
  drawbacks as i see it is the high FFA at +15% althoough if used on a
  daily basis this would be reduced. I have access to 800lt/day and am
  looking into the feasibility of setting up a plant to handle this
  quanity. Has anyone in the group had any experience in Beef tallow,
  As a result of BSE this low grade tallow is readily available and
  inexpensive.






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Re: [biofuel] Musings about toilet tissue

[Frank Wishart]

Gee Think it may be a case of oh shit 
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  To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 7:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [biofuel] Musings about toilet tissue


  >For economy, use both sides

  :-)

  And for two-ply? Separate and then use both sides?

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[biofuel] Methanol

[Frank Ponto]

So I have this neighbour with a big old sawdust and wood shavings pile. I 
figure mix in a ratio'd quantity of lawn cuttings from a municipal yard 
maintenance contract and a little aeration ( we have 1085 acres between us, so 
spread area for aeration is not a problem) and presto :) decomposition. 
Deep decomposition, 'wha-lah' :) gaseous methane. 
Tap instead of burn off, regulate pressure and liquefy.


Am I way off base here, or is this the sort of thing you elitists like to talk 
about.
Whoops, did I say Elitists?
 
No more techno-talk or theories, I'm only interested in what the f works, 
and if it doesn't, test and experiment till it does. 
Do I just have to make everyone else's mistake because of ego and 
competitiveness, or can the collective whole achieve a greater end?

I want to make it happen for my children, friends and community. 

Bye the bye, here in the East Kootenays we get YanMar clones due to the short 
Japanese Patent laws. A 6 KW air-cooled diesel for $ 3 500.00 CDN.

Cheers &
Thanks boyz,

Frank Ponto
Home office: 2304 3rd St. S., Cranbrook, British Columbia, Canada 
V1C -4X5
ph. (250) 489-6261 
Appropriate Forestry Services Ltd. 
Lost Dog Forestry Ltd. 
   Ponto Educational Services


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[biofuel] Fuel from wood

[Frank Ponto]

Hi there,
As a neophyte to this topic, I am initially interested in the feasibility of 
converting biodegradable wood waste into a combustible energy producing alcohol 
(ethanol?).
I own a substantial acreage, so supply is not a concern.
Initially I would like to start a small trial project, eventually building 
towards fueling 4 stroke engines.
 I have a science background, and understand most basic chemical concepts. I 
had heard of a 'distilling' process a long while ago while in University. 
Please help me with my first steps on this journey!

Thanks,

Frank Ponto
Home office: 2304 3rd St. S., Cranbrook, V1C -4X5
ph. (250) 489-6261 
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