[biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-17 Thread biobenz
"Do you know of anyone besides the inventor that > > has one in operation?" Soon, very soon. I pick up the "Processor" tomorow AM and then I just need to plumb it all together. It's been an ongoing and progressive project :) The system G-Mark has put together hit home with me and then by sco

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-16 Thread linden duncan
Mark, Thanks for your patience. I have very little time to look at these messages and even less time to look at the information contained therein. I love the idea that you have recycled something that ends up in our landfills. Ingenious. Linden skillshare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

[biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-16 Thread skillshare
read the equipment forum it came from- www.veggieavenger.com/media -there are a few people on there who have posted with photos of their version. I know of about 20 or 25 of these in operation. Mark --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, linden duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark, > > I look

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-16 Thread linden duncan
Mark, I looked at the appleseed reactor. I was impressed. The fact that it is fumeless is an attractive safety factor. Do you know of anyone besides the inventor that has one in operation? Linden girl_mark_fire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Look at the processor plans at: http://www.journey

Re[2]: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread James Slayden
sounds interesting, I will ask Ken where he gets this brewing supplies. Thanks. James On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote: > Hallo James, > > Try someplace which sells homebrewing supplies. Rubber bung with a > hole in the middle to which you can attach a small plastic

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread James Slayden
HDPE plastic On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, linden duncan wrote: > James, > > Is your carboy made of glass, plastic or metal? > > Linden > > > James Slayden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and on that note, does anyone know where I can get a vent fiting for > non-vented carboys? > > James > > On Mon, 1

[biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread Brian
Brian, Thanks. I'll take a look. Brian --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Brian C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian, > > The Fort-Paks from www.usplastics.com have caps which > can be plumbed with 3/4" fittings. I don't see the > caps by themselves on the website, but if you called I > imag

Re[2]: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo James, Try someplace which sells homebrewing supplies. Rubber bung with a hole in the middle to which you can attach a small plastic device which will allow gasses to escape. ?? Happy Happy, Gustl Tuesday, 15 June, 2004, 01:26:36, you wrote: JS> and on that note, does anyone k

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Angus >Keith, > Now I understand the slow method of Methoxide addition, thanks. >You mention that the process takes about 6 minutes or so to add the >methoxide, does that mean it drips onto the top of the mixture in >the mix tank? Dripping would be much too slow (1 ml = about 20 dro

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread Angus Scown
Keith, ÊÊ Now I understand the slow method of Methoxide addition, thanks.Ê You mention that the process takes about 6 minutes or so to add the methoxide, does that mean it drips onto the top of the mixture in the mix tank?Ê You sound like you have made a lot so I am going to follow your pattern

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Linden >Keith, > >You mentioned using mild air pressure to pump from a carboy into the >top of the processor. What are you using to create the mild air >pressure? So you still haven't looked at what you're commenting on. Sorry, I find that strange, especially after you were asked to do

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread linden duncan
James, Is your carboy made of glass, plastic or metal? Linden James Slayden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: and on that note, does anyone know where I can get a vent fiting for non-vented carboys? James On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Brian wrote: > Mark, > > A while back, you had mentioned being able

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread linden duncan
Keith, You mentioned using mild air pressure to pump from a carboy into the top of the processor. What are you using to create the mild air pressure? I agree that if there is a possibility of evolving too much gas from the reaction, that the main processor is the place to start the mixing of a

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread James Slayden
and on that note, does anyone know where I can get a vent fiting for non-vented carboys? James On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Brian wrote: > Mark, > > A while back, you had mentioned being able to find plumbing fittings > to use a carboy for adding methoxide. To this point, I have been > unable to fin

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
linden duncan wrote: >>The advantage I see to using the inline or Appleseed method would >>be that once you >>prepare your addition, you would not have to touch it again. Just >>as simple and safer. I'm not quite sure what you mean - "addition" means the methoxide or acid or whatever you're a

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread Brian C.
Brian, The Fort-Paks from www.usplastics.com have caps which can be plumbed with 3/4" fittings. I don't see the caps by themselves on the website, but if you called I imagine they would sell you some without the carboy. Also, Sun West Container in Tucson (and Phoenix) sells the same caps. They

Re: [biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-15 Thread linden duncan
The advantage I see to using the inline or Appleseed method would be that once you prepare your addition, you would not have to touch it again. Just as simple and safer. Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We use mild air-pressure to pump the methoxide from the carboy into a valve in th

[biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-14 Thread Brian
Mark, A while back, you had mentioned being able to find plumbing fittings to use a carboy for adding methoxide. To this point, I have been unable to find anyplace that sells carboy caps which connect to plumbing fittings. Do you have any further information on where these can be found?

[biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-14 Thread Keith Addison
We use mild air-pressure to pump the methoxide from the carboy into a valve in the top of the processor, quite slowly. Maybe the way the oil inlet from the pump to the top of the processor is arranged also has something to do with it, but the mix is thorough and fairly instant. On adding the s

[biofuel] Re: Two Stage process -- design to add methoxide

2004-06-14 Thread girl_mark_fire
Look at the processor plans at: http://www.journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html . The APpleseed reactor and many others have the type of pump-mixed system you're describing. The way methoxide is added, is that a second tank (a 5-gallon jerrican in my case) is used, which the methoxide