Hi all,and Duncan,
maybe u can help me with a suplier of methanol,in S.A. preferebly close to the
vaal triangle and the price of it
thanx
Kobus
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Hakan,
I think the $ slide is well overdue: how else are we (as in the rest of the
world) to rein in the misuse of resources in the US?
My only real fear is that the US will use all its nuclear weapons to take
what it needs to stay afloat...
regards Doug
On Wednesday 17 August 2005 7:32,
Hi Doug and All,
The Atlantic Monthly had a great article (actually several) in it about how the dollar could slide 25% or more. Great cover, circa 1920, with a pair of legs in a business suit looking from the roof of a tall building asif ready to jump.
Tom Irwin
Doug,
It will be hard times for US, but I do not belive on the nuclear option.
It is nothing that really can be taken and as we see in Iraq, it is very
difficult to collect on resources. The Americans will not allow for
a draft and the considerable resources needed for any effective
occupation
Hi Marilyn,
That was great. It will be posted in both secondary and elementary teacher lounges by 8:15 this morning. Thanks.
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Hakan,
except the poor 'terrorists'. (but I do not condone terrorism, but I wish we
(as all the countries of the 'West' could understand the frustration that
drives radical acts such as terrorism.)
regards Doug
On Wednesday 17 August 2005 6:36, Hakan Falk wrote:
Doug,
It will be hard
Hi Ray,
I hope they were all working outside on a windy day. Don´t smell the soup while its cooking, my mother used to say. It will burn your nose.
Tom Irwin
From: Ray J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 18:50:04 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel]
On 8/17/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi everyone,I love the amazing wisdom and knowledge on the biofuels site. Ithink the following first grader wisdom might be appreciated as
well, at least by my fellow teachers.MarilynA first grade teacher had 25 students in her class and
Thanks Marilyn..Great post!On 8/17/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi everyone,I love the amazing wisdom and knowledge on the biofuels site. I
think the following first grader wisdom might be appreciated aswell, at least by my fellow teachers.MarilynA first grade teacher had 25
Greetings,
No, I do not yearn for Canada. Canadians have their faults too, just
different ones. Me meek, not in this lifetime. It is true that the red in
my hair is more a memory than reality these days, I am used to standing up
for what I believe is right.
Actually the racism is what I
Greetings,
What you say is true, but how many Americans know their history? Ask most
Texans who won the civil war and they answer: Texas. While I do know that
Texans are not the same as American's, in most people's books, about half
of my neighbors are from California and they are no
Brian,
sorry for chipping (!) in late but your romantic views calls for a
comment.
Turn the trees into pellets?This is a nice
idea but give me more info to work with please.I can take the bait if
you like.I was waiting and hoping for a chance to
enter into a discussion in this group in
Hi Guys
I've just tested the WVO I've managed to obtain and
tested out at 6grpl this plus 3.5 makes 9.5. Is this a candidate for
deacidification?
Cheers Ian
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Hi Kobus,
Protea Chemicals... they have a nice website.
Jurie.
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Hi all,and Duncan,
maybe u can help
Mike:
Filter very carefully. I first collect it, and transfer to a
holding/settling tank. There it sits for at least 7-10 days. It is
then filtered thru cloth. A final filtration is passed thru an auto oil
filter.
I still see fine particulate in it at times.
Andy
Garth and Kim,
Maybe you should go out and educate some people to think otherwise.
The world will never become a better place if you just talk about it
online. Go out and help people notice their beliefs are so 1950s.
xoxox
hunt.
On 8/17/05, Garth Kim Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings,
A
Ray of Hope on the
Health Freedom
Horizon
"The world will never become a better place if you just talk about it online."
Wow! What a provocative statement.
If:
1.) The internet is the most powerful resource forinformation and research in history.
2.) Thatit's strength comes from the collective contributions ofall human beings with
Hello Ray(pl)
Ray J
I would agree with your visual acuity. However, the key to any
chemical lab work is that the worker is not to be exposed to the
process fumes. It is air pollution in concentrated form. Not to
be disrespectful, but you are viewing the low-budget handiwork of
untrained
Greetings,
If you can tell me how to educate people who do not want to learn, I will
do so. I was extremely active in Literacy Volunteers of America for 12
years. I worked as a trainer in the Brazos Valley and I tried to run a
literacy council in Bedias, where the illiterate rate is over
The world will never become a better place if you just talk about it online.
Wow! What a provocative statement.
Yes!
If:
1.) The internet is the most powerful resource for information and
research in history.
2.) That it's strength comes from the collective contributions
of all human
Doug Foskey wrote:
My only real fear is that the US will use all its nuclear weapons to take
what it needs to stay afloat...
And that is exactly what they WANT all the sheeple of the world to
think. No doubt I will get blasted (pardon the pun) for this but I
don't believe they will ever
However significant or subtle one considers the passing or information
to be, one cannot dismiss the fact that the internet has the capacity
to transmit that information to a larger number of people than face to
face contact can, at least until one reaches the point of having a
venue and an
Kim wrote:
If you can tell me how to educate people who do not want to
learn, I will do so. I own and run 2 yahoo lists...One on
sustainable building and one on renewable energy.
Kim,
Having students who don't want to learn is the hardest part of
being a teacher, especially a history
Hi All,
Since I just want to be left alone I guess that makes me a wimp. But if you piss me off I have enough knowledge to destroy you, that makes a a nerd or a bully? I'm confused.
Sneaky Tom
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Hi all,
I might also add that the chemical industry has no problem selling even more poisonous materials to farmers. Farmers are professionals who go out and obtain information any way they can. You don't have to have a PhD to do science or handle chemicals safely but you should know how to
Greetings Marilyn,
You are not telling me anything I don't know, but you are totally
correct. Most people unfortunately get their ideas from
hollywood/television and think it is real. They are seriously unhappy when
you shatter their vision of the world and they tend to attack the
Hello Kjell,
I pretty much know what is wrong with America. But don't keep us in suspense what is wrong with Sweden? Other than no sun for some period of the year that is.
Tom Irwin
From: Kjell Lofgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 05:35:11
Hi Kim,
Don't let those secrets out Kim. You'll have more competition. Let them stay dumb and in debt. As far as knowing history, which history are we talking about? Are we talking about the history that says John F. Kennedy was killed by lone gunman Lee Harvey Oswald? Or the real History?
Hi Tom;
I guess the real question (for me at least) is can we ever dare to
dream of a world without bullies whether they are nerds gone wild or
otherwise?
Joe
Tom Irwin wrote:
Hi All,
Since I just want to be left alone I guess that makes me a wimp.
But if you piss me off I
Hey Tom if you find any meaningful toxicological info on methoxide on
anyone's MSDS pass it on!
Joe
Tom Irwin wrote:
Hi all,
I might also add that the chemical industry has no problem
selling even more poisonous materials to farmers. Farmers are
professionals who go out and
http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/m2028.htm
This is for Dry Sodium Methoxide. *Chemical Formula:* CH3NaO
--
All generalizations are false. Including this one.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
This email is constructed entirely with OpenSource
Greetings,
Why would I want to see anyone suffer? I teach living debt free
whenever I get the chance, including last week to the employees at my
bank. I would like to live in a sustainable world and the only way
I can see of getting there is to teach at every opportunity. But I
can not teach
hi michael.
I don't think I'm off base on this.
not sure specifically what you're referring to. but i wasn't trying to
suggest that by associating the two ideas (lone individual and anarchist)
you
were maligning anarchists or anarchism.
My statement/opinion simply said that an anarchist
Hi Kim,
A a nefarious politician once said, " The Devil is in the details ". We have to teach the truth to live sustainable. Fools will always suffer but I appreciate your great heart and dedication.
Tom Irwin
From: Garth Kim Travis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
i don't see how that statement would lead one to believe it was government
censorship. it has a certain conspiratorial ring to it, no doubt. not
entirely
unfounded, since there's a ton of stuff sold electronically/via download on
ebay. sounds as if not even the copyright holder(s) of the
Kim,
Thanks for your frankness. Tolerance is the politically correct
buzzword these days, in the public arena anyway. Privately folks are
free to be as intolerant as money can buy. Discrimination is running
rampant not that anyone would admit to it but you can judge a tree by
its fruit.
I
portland, or.
On Tuesday, August 16, 2005, at 09:57 PM, robert luis rabello wrote:
no. that's ok. we're out in portland, or. thank you though! ...rbury
On Tuesday, August 16, 2005, at 05:04 PM, Mike Weaver wrote:
Oregon or Maine? I know someone in Washington State right now who is
Alright! Very cool. Thank you for the
fantastic feedback Kjell.
Brian, sorry for chipping
(!) in late but your romantic views calls for a comment.
Turn the trees into pellets?
This is a nice idea but give me more info to work with please.
I can take the bait if you like.
Wow, do I
The way I filter the WVO is I leave it in the collection barrell or in some
cases the orginal containers for a week in a warm place. In the summer, the
container is exposed to the sun to heat the oil and allow for better
seperation.
I then decant the container and pour the liquid through the steel
Kobus - the cheapest I've found is at Triangle Solvents (011 873 0157) in
Germiston. About R2.40/l. You can either take your own container and get
it filled, or they'll sell you a container at a reasonable price. The price
is MUCH better than lab suppliers.
Regards,
Duncan
082 853 8356
Corrosive and poisonous isn't enough? Wear proper protective equipment while working with, including gloves, safety glasses and lab apron isn't enough? Would the LD 50 do you any good in handling this material? Perhaps it is useful in accertaining the relative risk but I've handled far worse
Kieth:
As you often do, you have over-reacted here.
Most BD'ers on this list admit to their limited knowledge and
skills when they join the list. They then get a certain amount
of advice from web sources and start to build. Have you noticed
that no two processors are alike? We all have access
Be careful Tom:
Have a look back at the frequency of premature mortality among
the like of us.
Ray
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Hi all,
I might also add that the chemical industry has no problem selling even
more
poisonous materials to farmers.
Chris: "...but your comment made such a point of view conditional on being an anarchist."
After reading my previous post, I agree that it could have been interpreted that way. So I responded to that implicitly:
Mike: "If you thought that I was alluding to folklore, it was not meant that
Chris,
Given the context the statement leaned toward either legitimate
government involvement from any number of agencies, or downright
censorship. That card game is quite derogatory toward many gov't
officials and business leaders. It spins a grain of truth to whip up
frenzy within conspiracy
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:14:47 -0400, Keith Addison
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Yes they're harmful, but they're probably not as harmful as you're
making out,
+
+
Emergency Overview
Where is the toxicology?
For those on the list unfamiliar with MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet)
and the terminology this is what is missing
no LD50 (lethal dose for 50% death rate -usually tested with rats)
no LC50 (lethal concentration for 50% death rate)
and more importantly
no TLV
Hi Tim and all,
You mean it's like Fox News and CNN but in reverse?
Tom Irwin
From: Tim Schlueter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:42:33 -0300Subject: RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/CountryChris,Given the context the statement leaned
Hi Ray,
Yeah, I know. We get complacent and careless even through we know better. You have to be self disciplined and careful all the time. But even among the "professionals" the statistics are no worse. Polymer chemists generally don't see 53.
Tom Irwin
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Hi Joe,
It's a question of how we were raised, how our experience shaped up and how much of our education took hold. I think dreams precede progress. Continue to dream.
Tom
snipHi Tom;I guess the real question (for me at least) is can we ever dare to dream of a world without bullies
Tom,
Not sure I understand. Please elaborate.
Tim
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Hi Tim and all,
Kieth:
Keith
As you often do, you have over-reacted here.
Have I really.
Most BD'ers on this list admit to their limited knowledge and
skills when they join the list. They then get a certain amount
of advice from web sources and start to build. Have you noticed
that no two processors are
Chris,
Given the context the statement leaned toward either legitimate
government involvement from any number of agencies, or downright
censorship. That card game is quite derogatory toward many gov't
officials and business leaders. It spins a grain of truth to whip up
frenzy within conspiracy
My! Really stirring it up aren't you? I hope the fumes don't get you.
Hm, now just let me go back to Todd's original message and try to see
how it could be viewed as an emergency exposure, especially as he
didn't seem to think so.
Keith
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:14:47 -0400, Keith Addison
Be careful Tom:
Have a look back at the frequency of premature mortality among
the like of us.
Ray
Common sense is jolly good stuff but we don't need a nanny thankyou Ray.
Keith
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:08:57 -0400, Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I might also add that the
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0817-22.htm
Published on Wednesday, August 17, 2005 by the Boston Globe
Guzzle Gas, and Pretend
by Derrick Z. Jackson
Gasoline is over $2.50 a gallon, the death toll of American soldiers
in Iraq is over 1,850, and what patriotic, heroic displays of
Hello Ian
Hi Guys
I've just tested the WVO I've managed to obtain and tested out at
6grpl this plus 3.5 makes 9.5. Is this a candidate for
deacidification?
What do you mean by deacidification? Do you mean using an acid-base
process instead of a single-stage base process, or do you mean
With permission :
The whole discussion has nothing to do with emulsion wash test.
Met vriendelijke groet,
Pieter Koole
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I certainly agree that the FDA's efforts to label supplements as drugs
is misguided. On the other hand, congressman Paul, by saying...
The intent of that act was to allow the manufacturers of foods and
dietary supplements to provide consumers with accurate and specific
information regarding
I said that??
anyway..
how about some real information about methanol?
from Methanex
Methanol is a clear biodegradable liquid usually made from natural gas.
It is a petrochemical that is used to make countless industrial and
consumer products such as synthetic textiles, recyclable
Hi Tim,
You mean they don´t have Fox News and CNN in Missouri. Perhaps this will help. When someone goes into another country to take what belongs to that country they are breaking this one.
You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his
Tim wrote
...Marilyn brought it to our attention. Perhaps she would care to
defend her statement.
Tim,
I first wrote about the cards in response to Hakan wondering
what kind of companies members of the Bush administration
come from. I remembered a year ago someone had told me how
many of
Hi,
Where did you get these tanks?
45 gallon opaque plastic tanks with a cone shaped bottom. and a valve in
the bottom of the cone.
thanks,
Mike
John Wilson wrote:
The way I filter the WVO is I leave it in the collection barrell or in some
cases the orginal containers for a week in a
Heck,
most Americans don't even know the proverbial Franklin stove (round
and made of steel) has nothing to do with Ben Franklin.
Tom Irwin wrote:
Hi Kim,
Don't let those secrets out Kim. You'll have more competition. Let
them stay dumb and in debt. As far as knowing history, which
You've taken some liberties with this translation. The original reads
Thall shalt not covet thy neighbor's ass. Well, you haven't seen my
neighbor in her hot tub. I have a lot of trouble with this one. Some
afternoons I covet for an hour or so before I go back to work...
Tom Irwin wrote:
Gas $3.11 in Washington DC
Keith Addison wrote:
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0817-22.htm
Published on Wednesday, August 17, 2005 by the Boston Globe
Guzzle Gas, and Pretend
by Derrick Z. Jackson
Gasoline is over $2.50 a gallon, the death toll of American soldiers
in Iraq is over
Pieter,It did at the beginning of the thread. So after gently stir washing the biodiesel (with a low tech piece of wood trim) with about half part water as fuel I let it settle 24 hours and drained off the milky water. I was happy to discover no emulsion. I took Kieth's advice and tried Jan
I thought a few peoplemightlike
this.
The Urban Aquaculture Manual
http://www.webofcreation.org/Building-and-grounds/aqua/Chap1.html
Greg H.
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I am new to the list
and just getting started making biodiesel. I own a 2001 Dodge truck with the 24
valve Cummins H.O.diesel engine. Has anyone been running biodiesel in a Cummins
for any length of time? Is it ok to run 100% biodiesel in the warmer months of
the year.
Dave
Hi,Duncan
thanx a million the best i could do was r6/l
thanx again
regards
kobus
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The 6.9L HP rating is near to the one of the 302
(5.0L), but the TORQUE figure is huge!
The 5.0-litre was rated 185-205 hp, the 6.9 litre
diesel V8 was rated at 170hp , with torque 330-390 pounds-feet,and the
7.3-litre diesel V8 was rated 185-210 hp., with torque 360-425
pounds-feet.What
I hate to mail the whole list like this...but I feel like I've been
lurking long enough to ask a legitimate question. I work with the
public, specifically school children and their families, in a very low
income segment of a very poor state. My specialty is policy,
marketing, and management. I
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