lisa simpson wrote:
5.) No foreign students over age 21. The older ones
are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they
get a D and it's back home baby.
Clearly this author has never stepped foot on a modern American
engineering quad. If you get rid of the foreign-born engineering
No it isn't. It's naive isolationist biggoted xenophobic crap.
jh
Jerry Turner wrote:
Doesn't make a damn to me who said itits just plain good ole advise.
Jerry
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From: Alt.EnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Sunday, June
Seems to me I did exactly that about 2 posts back and you've completely
ignored them, but I'll recapitulate them here.
Regarding ANWR, at peak production in 2025, it will only reduce US
foreign oil consumption by 3 to 6%. Conversely, raising the CAFE
standards could do at least twice that,
.
About all I can figure is that by labelling me a Clinton loving,
American hating leebrul, you can dismiss any cognitive dissonance that
might result from me challenging your worldview.
jh
Jerry Turner wrote:
I bet you voted for Clinton.
Jerry
- Original Message -
From: John
And what is the incidence of osteosarcoma compared to dental caries?
Anyway. if you search PubMed for bassin eb you'll find Dr Bassin is the
lead author on an article from 2004 entitled: Problems in exposure
assessment of fluoride in drinking water.
The primary conclusion in that 2004 paper
Just FYI, there is a major debate on SVO use raging at TDIclub.com right
now. It's actually spilled over into 3 different threads in the
biodiesel section of the forums(sic).
jh
Lyn Gerry wrote:
Hi Mike and All,
I just had my 1999 Jetta TDI converted, and so far, I'm really pleased. I live
Is that why OSX is the largest unix platform on the market today?
Just to be clear, I think linux and OSX both have a important place in
today's OS market and I don't mean to pit OSX and linux against each other.
That having been said, I don't think you can realistically discuss the
pending
Yes, but in the 15th century, those dues got you what passed for
national defense and maybe some roads?
Today my taxes cover national defense, roads, trains and airports,
educational services, the court system and social services. They also
provide money to fund scientific research, space
Can't speak to consumer use, but yes, at least in racing, that is
exactly why E85 is used. Putting out a pit fire, or worse a flaming crew
member, when you can't see the flame is a rather difficult task.
Also, I suspect it makes taxation and permitting issues much much easier
ATF-wise, as 15%
Well, I'm certainly not a constitutional scholar, nor am I exceptionally
familiar with the details of the case, but from what I do know, your
depiction isn't entirely accurate. In fact, NPR had a story on it this
morning while I was putting down mulch in the garden.
New London CT, the town
authorized the
transferr of private land from one owner to another based on how much
money the land would provide back to the city. (IMHO)
Larry
On 6/24/05, John Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I'm certainly not a constitutional scholar, nor am I exceptionally
familiar with the details
Hi Keith.
Sorry if my attempted rhetorical device fell flat. I was just trying to
make two separate points wrapped up in one little sarcastic package;
first, that we actually do get something worthwhile for our taxes and
second, that snarky comparisons to feudel crops tariffs aren't really
This is not about class or income or about those people. It was zoned
as an industrial area and had been zoned as such for over 75 years.
As far as living on the wrong side of tracks, my house is on the wrong
side of tracks. I also happen to live in a town with an economic
redevelopment
Fair enough. My point was about the area being zoned as an industrial
area, but I was trying to be colorful in my description.
jh
Michael Redler wrote:
This wasn't some treelined Norman Rockwell-esque suburb we're talking
about here.
This sounds harmless and in fact seems pretty logical.
do you think?
jh
Brian wrote:
Sorry. No assumptions formed about you. Just a response to your
comment about those affected by this decision not living in a Norman
Rockwell-esque suburb. Who is it that's reading thing in here?
Brian
- Original Message - From: John Hayes [EMAIL
You have the 'SVO destroyed my TDI' folks.
And the 'SVO is just fine' pollyannas.
And the Greasel 'TDIclub member don't have a clue' people.
And the professional 'we need more scientific data' skeptics.
And the 'yes, we need data but your studies are too old' counter-skeptics.
Yup. I think
It means more information is available in the manual.
r wrote:
I saw a few logos stamped on the inside of the gas tank fuel door of my
vehicle, a 2003 Dodge Caravan SE. One of them, I found out is E85,
the symbol for ethanol 85. Another symbol, which is a mystery to me,
represents the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 6/30/05 11:10:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you want to put a frown on the face of [Saudi] Wahhabis, talk
about 100-mile-per-gallon vehicles, Woolsey said. We don't need a
Manhattan Project to do it.
It
Thanks to a post at TDIclub, I discovered that Pimentel has released yet
another report on ethanol. Looking at the dates below, he's a month
ahead of schedule this year.
http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/July05/ethanol.toocostly.ssl.html
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
earl, i'm not familiar with any federal laws protecting workers, except for
anti-discrimination laws. if you're referring to more than that, please
enlighten me.
Chris are you serious? I can think of plenty of federal protection for
workers off the top of my
a) It's not a board. It's a mailing list.
b) List rules state that calls to limit topic discussion are explicitly
forbidden. Or in the words of our fearless list owner: No Topic Cops.
c) It isn't your place to decide what the purpose of this board is.
Learn to use your delete key; if you
Based on the 1993 date, I suspect it may simply be an issue of
incompatible seals and fuel lines, no?
Appal Energy wrote:
Terry,
Ask your mechanic Why? he tells you that biodiesel cannot be used in
your vehicle.
I think everyone who uses biodiesel would care to hear his or her
Never believe a single tank.
I'd give it 5 tanks or so, because frankly, there is no reason you
should see such a dramatic drop with biodiesel. Are you certain you
didn't short fill the tank? Have your driving conditions changed? More
AC, shorter trips, more stop n' go traffic?
jh
[EMAIL
Keith Addison wrote:
Anyone want a containerful of pocket bikes? If you're in the US you
won't be doing much good for the balance of trade, so to speak, but on
the other hand 138 people will be using a lot less fuel so China can
have it instead. - K
Not really. Buncha fat little kids in
Keith Addison wrote:
Hello John
Keith Addison wrote:
Anyone want a containerful of pocket bikes? If you're in the US you
won't be doing much good for the balance of trade, so to speak, but
on the other hand 138 people will be using a lot less fuel so China
can have it instead. - K
Not
Umm. To quote Yogi Berra deja vu all over again.
We already discussed Pimental's latest ethanol study once within the
last 2 weeks. Either somebody is trolling or as a really short attention
span.
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg51927.html
But anyway, if we're gonna
Doesn't NG have some small percentage of ethane, propane and butane
mixed in as well? This would presumably increase the energy desnity over
straight methane.
Also, while I think of it, isn't biogas closer to a 50:50 mix of methane
and CO2, with, as you say, some trace impurities? Reason I
malcolm maclure wrote:
I couldn’t resist posting this.
Malcolm
all the Ivy and *
* Seven Sister schools, plus Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Cal
Tech and MIT. *
a) plus Harvard and Yale? Did they get kicked out of the Ivy League
when I wasn't looking?
b) And if we get all 8
Alt.EnergyNetwork wrote:
Me too,
The once proud republican party has been highjacked by
right wing neocons, powerfull corporations
and xenophobic Jesus freaks. No administration in history
has gone to the extent that this one has, to distort
scientific data and water down or eliminate
malcolm maclure wrote:
Lol, nice 1 John. Hadn't noticed that.
Not sure about this tho:
a) plus Harvard and Yale? Did they get kicked out of the Ivy League
when I wasn't looking?
The Ivies (the Ancient Eight) consist of Brown, Cornell, Columbia,
Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton, and
bmolloy wrote:
Hi All,
Where can I find a background to the fundamentalist belief in
the Rapture. I think we discussed it some months ago vis a vis the
Israeli conflict.
Regards,
Bob.
http://www.newsaic.com/ftvsimpsons1619i.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture
jh
There is also substantial work iniitiated by the Russians and Ukrainians
(and rarely reported in the West until recently) of an abyssal, abiogenic
origin of petroleum, which postulates a co-eval formation of primordial
petroleum with
earth about 4.5 bollion years back,much earlier than the
Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off
For future reference, here is a good place to start.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_slang#Common_Internet_slang
jh
William Adams wrote:
please bear with me. I'm learning the lingo , but que dice ROFLMAO?
- Original Message - From:
Keith, Bob, Andrew et al.
Respectfully, I need to disagree with Keith and go with Bob on this one.
David Pimentel may rightfully deserve scorn for his repeatedly releasing
skewed reports long after the errors have been pointed out.
However, he should not be attacked for doing so, That is,
Tom Irwin wrote:
I don't think ethanol will be a dinosaur in 20 years but would
appreciate why you think so if it is other than yields per hectare.
Methanol has the capacity to produce some nasty tailpipe emmission (as
does ethanol but less so) and is far more toxic to humans and animals
than
Tom Irwin wrote:
Greeting all,
What would happen to the Cornell results if a crop like sugar beets was
used instead of corn?
Please don't call it the Cornell results. That implies the entire
university backs Pimentel's findings.
As to your question, I can't answer it directly, but you
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Check out Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes
I deconstructed that Washington Post story in my blog.
http://blog.john-hayes.com/?postid=122
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Hi Keith.
Sorry if you took my previous long winded reply as a direct
reply/criticism - it wasn't intended that way.
Instead, it was a broader essay I posted to my blog as as the
culmination of thoughts that have resulted from the dialogue here, as
well as at tdiclub.com, and in real life.
become perceived myth versus perceived myth, judging
others by what they drive and where we can't fully know what drove their
decision, I really don't want to go there. Thank you for taking the time to
share your thoughts.
Doug
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Dude. I think he dripped some sarcasm on my shoe.
jh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
er, sorry, but were you being sarcastic or serious?
-chris
In a message dated 8/10/05 8:56:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The American way of life is not negotiable.
I personally feel I need a huge SUV for
Tom Irwin wrote:
They can keep the
pictures of the flag drapped caskets from view but it´s really the
wounded they´re going to have the most problems with. You can pretty
much calculate that half of those 11,500 have been horribly maimed or
burned. Bombs and booby traps do that kind of thing.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
those are very conservative (not in the right-wing sense) numbers. there are
already close to 1800 killed, and even mcglaughlin--hardly a liberal or a
dove--repeats figures in excess of 25000 for woulded/maimed/incapacitated.
Actually, as of 10 Aug 2005, the DoD
Jeremy Farmer wrote:
Can anyone help me out here? I am looking into producing Biodiesel for
electricity generation. I know the energy bill has a tax incentive, but
are there other ones? I read something about a treas. department break
for using a renewable source for electricity. Does
Sten Armstrong wrote:
and other bad news: Forests paying the price for biofuels
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18825265.400feedId=online-news
* 22 November 2005 * NewScientist.com news service * Fred Pearce
THE drive for green energy in the developed world is having the
Mike Weaver wrote:
*Green chemistry: Biodiesel made with sugar catalyst*
Masakazu Toda, Atsushi Takagaki, Mai Okamura, Junko N. Kondo, Shigenobu
Hayashi, Kazunari Domen, Michikazu Hara
Nature 438, 178-178 (10 Nov 2005) Brief Communications
Yes, but it doesn't have anything useful for the
Kenji James Fuse wrote:
Getting off-topic a bit...
Any concerns about consistently drinking distilled water? I've heard it
can leach minerals from the body. A friend of mine uses a water
distiller so I'd like to know more.
Kenji
Search the archives. It's in there. Short version is: If
Greg Gordon of the Star Tribute wrote:
Minnesota is the lone state with a 10 percent ethanol mandate, though
Hawaii and Montana have enacted similar mandates that have yet to take
effect.
Minnesota will require 20 percent ethanol content in 2013.
Whatchu talking about Willis? New York and
Mike Weaver wrote:
With regards to making up the stories, yes, I said clearly that they
we NOT TRUE in the original email. I never presented them as
anything other than made up. There is a long history of using made
up stories to illustrate a point. The Daily Show. The Onion. Modern
bob allen wrote:
If manganese and/ or phosphate insecticides (just phosmet or all OP
insecticides?)were the causative
agent for TSE (transmissible spongiform encephalopathy), I have a couple of
questions.
the disease has been described since the 17th century in sheep and has been
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sent several times from the above email. Can someone please explain to me
how the email that belongs to Keith be hijacked like this? I don't know
enough
about email to understand how a name registered to someone can be used.
Burak_l wrote:
And finally I hope they do not research how much is waisted in car races
like formula-1, Lemans endurance etc...
Those machines are loud and very very thirsty. Probabily one of them during
1 race pollutes more than a typical rider
can manage whole year.
With regard to
Ken Provost wrote:
On Jan 2, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Logan Vilas wrote:
In the better Titration Method I find it's easier to mix my stock
solution
with 20grams in 500milliters distilled water.
OK -- we now have 4% NaOH soln.
That gives .4% w/v lye solution when 5ml is added to 45ml
January 7, 2006
Pataki Wants Drivers to Fill Up With Ethanol or Biodiesel
By DANNY HAKIM
ALBANY, Jan. 6 - Some 200,000 New Yorkers own vehicles that can run on
corn-based ethanol instead of gasoline. But many have no idea that their
Ford Explorers, Chevy Impalas or Nissan Titans can use this
Michael Redler wrote:
Appropriate technologies as a philosophy can benefit anyone, anywhere.
I received this from my uncle today:
Zero Gravity
*When NASA first started sending up astronauts, they quickly discovered
that ball-point pens would not work in zero gravity. To combat
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006, Mika Feldmann wrote:
But to have a personal conversation with him, one would consider
him to be an idiot.
I don't know where you get this idea. Einstein was an entertaining
public speaker known for his sense of humor.
He was also not able to operate a motor vehicle.
Garth Kim Travis wrote:
Doctors in this country tell
people that what they eat makes no difference to their health.
Diabetics are told that sugar intake has nothing to do with diabetes.
Kim, I don't mean to be harsh, but that is utter and complete horseshit.
My sister and her husband,
pediatrician and he thinks a Big Mac is a balanced meal. I've been told
that in medical school the subject of nutrition is covered in one single
course and it is mostly about memorizing the function of all the
vitamins and how they work in the body.
Joe
John Hayes wrote:
Garth Kim Travis
Why don't you make a torrent? This is a perfect application.
http://www.bittorrent.com/introduction.html
jh
Chandan Haldar wrote:
David,
Since you have done so much, may I request you to also put up chooped up
50MB chunks for easier downloading of this monster? It'd certainly help
David Miller wrote:
Chip Mefford wrote:
If anyone knows how to bust an iso image up into 'chunks'
that can be reassembled into a workable iso image, please
let me know.
As for breaking the image up, it's trivial with dd, a standard unix
utility. With Windows you're on your own:)
I
Kirk McLoren wrote:
Sulphur is not added as a lubricant. WHere do they get that rubbish?
Kirk
*/Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:
Biodiesel demand is expected to balloon when a new air pollution law
comes into effect in June, dropping the maximum allowable s! ulphur
Rating on any Golf or Jetta diesel is 46 mpg. But everyone I know who
keeps their's in good repair get 50-52 mpg combined city and highway (60
mph), even in metropolitan areas.
Leave the baseline alone and let the whiners and fools eventually figure
out that the supposed mis-truth in
absolute sense. However, nor am I willing to concede that slower is
always safer as the 'speed kills' lobby would have us believe.
First, I'd like to suggest that you're ignoring the effect of speed
differentials on safety; someone that is driving 20 mph faster *or*
slower than everyone
Don't know about the rest but you should be aware that the VW engine
has a very serious design fault. If the timing belt breaks the engine will
be destroyed. I don't know why vw didn't shorten the valve stems and recess
the valves in the head, and maybe recess a small area over the piston
Know of any good anti-oxidants that are readily available?
The reason I ask, is that it might not be a bad idea to use some with
mystery oil.
BHA (Butylated hydroxyanisole), BHT (Butylated hydroxytoluene), and TBHQ
(Tertiary Butyl Hydroquinone) are all food grade antioxidants that are
Sorry for the repetition of this question but my mailbox got trashed!
Someone posted some information a week or so ago about what chemicals to
add to biodiesel to prevent oxidation. Any chance of a repeat of the
chemicals in question and also if anyone knows where they can be
obtained? I
I trust Dr Mercola far more than I do the FDA. If you have been reading
his articles over the
last few years, you will see that he's forthright and sincere. Any claim
that he makes can be
backed up with real science.
*snort*
Pull the other one.
Real science, as you put it, requires a)
I always figured that the smarter move security wise for the USA was to
purchase our petroleum needs from others as long as they willing to sell it
and we afford it, saving our reserves for future use.
Oil is fungible commodity. This idea that we are somehow using up
their oil now while
1. Why is diesel fuel so much more expensive in the US? In MA, it
costs at least 10% more, reducing its advantage.
John, two quick comments:
a) over the course of a year, diesel is NOT more expensive than
gasoline. Diesel is more in the winter (when demand for home heating oil
is
I have a friend that lives in the NE US, and he too told me about the MA
state ban on diesel sales! I wouldn't have beleived it otherwise! It's
all politics and economics, aka oil companies.
To be clear, there is no ban on diesel sales in MA or any other
Northeast state.
Very briefly,
Hi Andrew Tracy.
There is a Swedish survey performed by Motor Test Center, in which FAME is
compared with Swedish diesel oil Mk 1 and other similar fuels. The survey is
focusing on the cancerogenity of the particulants of the fuel respectively.
The results suggest that the semi-violate phase
What is the price range and availability of ethanol in the US Florida to be
exact?
http://www.e85fuel.com/database/search.php
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Folks,
I have a statistics project due for class (im a spoh in college) and
i need some data.
Here is the US DOE/USDA biodiesel lifecycle report:
http://devafdc.nrel.gov/pdfs/3812.pdf
Virtually all the other pamphlets and fact sheets you'll find in the US
(and elsewhere?) are based on
Our Appleseed derived testbed reactor is now operational, and our
longterm goal is to automate the heck out of the thing.
Thus, I was pondering about how to automatically meter the correct
amount of sodium methoxide into the reactor. My partner in crime is the
electrical engineer in charge
This is great ... finally we are making sense. The WMD is not the issue.
This is what I have said all along. People miss the big picture. Suddam
Hussein was the weapon of mass destruction. 100% agreed.
KS
Only two problems with that:
a) Iraq was a sovereign nation. We do not have the right,
John, I agree with what you say, but I did NOT write that!!!
Sheesh
Oops. Very sorry Keith. I know you didn't write that. That's what I get
for hastily replying while I'm waiting for the coffee to finish brewing.
Again. Sorry about that.
jh
The US involvement in the fighting in Europe
was not pivotal to the outcome.
Clearly any good student of history knows that US losses in Europe
during WWII were completely drawfed by those of Germany and Russian, but
to claim that US involvement in the fighting in Europe was not pivotal
The US involvement in the fighting in Europe
was not pivotal to the outcome.
Clearly any good student of history knows that US losses in Europe
during WWII were completely drawfed by those of Germany and Russian, but
to claim that US involvement in the fighting in Europe was not pivotal
this one: http://www.kimble-kontes.com/html/pg-620F.html and it came
already loaded with 0.1 N NaOH. I didn't really feel like dumping it out
and making some fresh 0.1% w/v NaOH so I pulled out a pencil and some
scrap paper.
A quick calculation reveals that 0.1 Normal NaOH is a 0.4% w/v
on 4/8/05 7:46 PM, John Hayes at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A quick calculation reveals that 0.1 Normal NaOH is a 0.4% w/v solution.
Thus, whatever my titration amount is in mL, I need to multiple with
value by 4 to get the number of grams of NaOH per liter WVO.
But then I was thinking, if I
Evolution is not science, it's a worldview that fits a set of
religious beliefs and as such is really only a religious
precursor. Certainly not science.
And what of the fact that I can place selective pressure on bacteria in
a culture and get them to evolve a new trait, like, oh say,
source. I have seen several references to it but haven't investigated
as of yet. It seems you could use all kinds of land not currently
used for agriculture. Would you like me to supply some links?
Mike Briggs at UNH is at the forefront of this work.
Hello John
Mike Briggs at UNH is at the forefront of this work.
http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html
So people keep saying, and they've been saying it for quite awhile, but
I don't see anything coming out of it other than this one article.
Mike has made some coy references
One may think this argument is silly (and feel free to criticize -
especially if the facts are off. However, if the facts are off, please
cite sources for correct facts!) However, this leads me to think that
since so much CO2 production is unavoidable (breathing is a right:-)),
maybe we should
There was a table in the article showing the number of occupant deaths
per 100,000 vehicles sold. The lowest? Toyota Camry and VW Jetta. The
highest, Ford F-150 if I remember correctly. Among the highest was also
the Explorer, Chevy Tahoe, etc. The moral of the story? Avoiding an
Who is they?
Where was this being done?
Without those trivial little details, your message does little to
increase the signal to noise ratio on the list.
jh
JD2005 wrote:
Hi Bob;
There's not anything much more to add only that they were putting mildly
radioactive material in washing
production would fail to keep pace with demand...
...back in 1798.
Seriously, even if cheap oil runs out, we are not heading toward some
Malthusian crisis, because end of the world types since Malthus have
ignored that ability of human beings to innovate when faced with an
incentive to do
http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v8/n4/pdf/nn0405-397.pdf
jh
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Chris Lloyd wrote:
Why a war if it is only to remove the enrichment facilities, Israel just
nipped across the border and blew up Iraq’s nuclear site. I’m sure a few
missiles fire from off shore would do the job. But that does mean they
would still control their own oil. Chris.
After the
Is the source for this correct ? It might be good to cite the
source if we are going to assasinate not only a living person but
also a man's character. If you have the original source for this
information then maybe we should post it here to help clear this
up. Just a thought...
Clif
Appal Energy wrote:
No, Casey's sacrifice was not worth it
and George needs to do more than wave his
flag and manipulate our sense of
patriotism. He needs to march his girls to a
recruitment center and send them to Iraq to fight the
terrorists that his moronic and callous foreign
In the US, fuel jugs are color-coded - red for gas, yellow for diesel
and if, I remember correctly, blue for kerosene.
Of course, in the vast majority of cases, the same polymer is used for
all three so you can certainly substitute one for another safetywise. As
to whether dispensing locations
John Hayes wrote:
I was getting my haircut in New Haven on Tuesday and walked past a Yalie
watering hole Barbara is known to frequent.
On a telephone pole out front, there were 2 photos of injured Iraq War
vets. With the photos was a sign that read something to the effect of
Is it in poor
Nancy Canning wrote:
Propylene glycol as it is used tons and tons of products including
industrial cleaners, shampoo's, toothpaste, creams, etc. It is very toxic,
the industry even has it in children's prescriptions. Wonder if this type of
propylene glycol has less poison/carcinogenic
You all probably know this, but in case some don't, the following
can help in choosing which ones you might decide to boycott:
Major companies that import Middle Eastern oil :
Shell. 205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco. 144,332,000 barrels
Exxon
Nancy Canning wrote:
- Original Message - From: John Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Another use for glycerine
Nancy Canning wrote:
Propylene glycol as it is used tons and tons of products
Greg and April wrote:
My dad told the story about one of his collage buddies that got a 3 month
old Cadillac for $50, because the previous owner went out to the desert and
committed suicide in it, and was not found for many days..
He striped the car down to bare metal, sand blasted the
Myk Hill wrote:
FDA has also listed Aspartame as a Neurotoxin, but there is many foods
that contain it anyway
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan.
Any chance you have a primary source to back up your rather
extraordinary statement?
Searching the FDA website for
Keith Addison wrote:
Myk Hill wrote:
FDA has also listed Aspartame as a Neurotoxin, but there is many foods
that contain it anyway
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan.
Any chance you have a primary source to back up your rather
extraordinary statement?
Searching
Nancy Canning wrote:
So you guys are going to believe hook line and sinker all the bs FDA
passes off. I am laughing so hard at your defending the FDA.
I'm not defending the FDA here (nice red herring/strawman btw) - I
just pointed out that the claim the FDA listed aspartame as a
neurotoxin is
Garth Kim Travis wrote:
Greetings,
No one but you has brought up any stereo types.
I prefer Blaupunkt over Pioneer, but my friend prefers Aiwa. Anything is
better than Sony.
Oh wait... nevermind.
;)
jh
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