Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-07-02 Thread C.E. Forman

>From what I can tell (screenshots on the back, as I don't have a working C64
yet) the game is the same, just with a few minor details changed: Mars
instead of Titan, there's a code wheel in the EA version versus a secret
dossier in Infocom's, etc.

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>
> CE Forman wrote:
> >Speaking of Infocom boxes: does anybody know if Mines of Titan was ever
> >released in a Gray Box?
>
> >No, as Infocom wasn't even publishing the grey boxes by that time (1989).
> >Even a couple of years prior, their text games had moved to the slipcased
> >style.
> >
> >However, Mines was previously released by Electronic Arts under the name
> >"The Mars Saga".
>
> Do you know if there's any difference between both? Or just the same game
> with a different splash screen?
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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-07-02 Thread Pedro Quaresma


CE Forman wrote:
>Speaking of Infocom boxes: does anybody know if Mines of Titan was ever
>released in a Gray Box?

>No, as Infocom wasn't even publishing the grey boxes by that time (1989).
>Even a couple of years prior, their text games had moved to the slipcased
>style.
>
>However, Mines was previously released by Electronic Arts under the name
>"The Mars Saga".

Do you know if there's any difference between both? Or just the same game
with a different splash screen?

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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-30 Thread C.E. Forman

> > No, as Infocom wasn't even publishing the grey boxes by that time
(1989).
> > Even a couple of years prior, their text games had moved to the
slipcased
> > style.
> >
> > However, Mines was previously released by Electronic Arts under the name
> > "The Mars Saga".
>
> For PC?  I think for other platforms, but the only PC release that I know
of
> was the Infocom one.

Possibly it was.  I've only seen the EA version for C64.



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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-29 Thread Jim Leonard

"C.E. Forman" wrote:
> 
> >Speaking of Infocom boxes: does anybody know if Mines of Titan was ever
> >released in a Gray Box?
> 
> No, as Infocom wasn't even publishing the grey boxes by that time (1989).
> Even a couple of years prior, their text games had moved to the slipcased
> style.
> 
> However, Mines was previously released by Electronic Arts under the name
> "The Mars Saga".

For PC?  I think for other platforms, but the only PC release that I know of
was the Infocom one.
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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-29 Thread C.E. Forman

>Speaking of Infocom boxes: does anybody know if Mines of Titan was ever
>released in a Gray Box?

No, as Infocom wasn't even publishing the grey boxes by that time (1989).
Even a couple of years prior, their text games had moved to the slipcased
style.

However, Mines was previously released by Electronic Arts under the name
"The Mars Saga".




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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-29 Thread Jim Leonard

Pedro Quaresma wrote:
> 
> Speaking of Infocom boxes: does anybody know if Mines of Titan was ever
> released in a Gray Box?

Nope.  It wasn't part of that line of marketing.  Covers (albeit one is
extremely dark for some reason) are here:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/covers/gameId,1242/
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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-29 Thread Jim Leonard

Pedro Quaresma wrote:
> 
> Speaking of Infocom boxes: does anybody know if Mines of Titan was ever
> released in a Gray Box?

Nope.  It wasn't part of that line of marketing.  Covers (albeit one is
extremely dark for some reason) are here:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/covers/gameId,1242/
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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-28 Thread Pedro Quaresma


CE Forman wrote:
> >> Not even on extreme situations? Here's a Myth, a Lucifer's Realm and a
> >> handsigned Akalabeth for your LGoP2. Will you trade it now? ;)
> >
> >No, because then I'd feel guilty about totallly ripping you off.  B-)
>
> I didn't tell say I was offering originals, now did I? Nor who's the
> signature on Akalabeth from? >:)

>True, but being a fellow collector I'd tend to trust they're originals
(and
>a valid collectible signature).

Hey, just because I once sold you that pink frisbee for $500 as alledgedly
being a Starcross saucer, that doesn't mean you can't trust me! ;) ;) ;)

>  I could, after all, simply scrawl a
>magic-marker "2" on an original LGoP package, couldn't I?  B-)

You could, but since I know yours is sealed, you'd still have a LGoP1 and
a... errr... large shrinkwrap with a big "2" on it! ;)

Speaking of Infocom boxes: does anybody know if Mines of Titan was ever
released in a Gray Box?


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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-28 Thread C.E. Forman

> >> Not even on extreme situations? Here's a Myth, a Lucifer's Realm and a
> >> handsigned Akalabeth for your LGoP2. Will you trade it now? ;)
> >
> >No, because then I'd feel guilty about totallly ripping you off.  B-)
>
> I didn't tell say I was offering originals, now did I? Nor who's the
> signature on Akalabeth from? >:)

True, but being a fellow collector I'd tend to trust they're originals (and
a valid collectible signature).  I could, after all, simply scrawl a
magic-marker "2" on an original LGoP package, couldn't I?  B-)




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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-28 Thread Pedro Quaresma


>> Not even on extreme situations? Here's a Myth, a Lucifer's Realm and a
>> handsigned Akalabeth for your LGoP2. Will you trade it now? ;)
>
>No, because then I'd feel guilty about totallly ripping you off.  B-)

I didn't tell say I was offering originals, now did I? Nor who's the
signature on Akalabeth from? >:)

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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-28 Thread C.E. Forman

> Not even on extreme situations? Here's a Myth, a Lucifer's Realm and a
> handsigned Akalabeth for your LGoP2. Will you trade it now? ;)

No, because then I'd feel guilty about totallly ripping you off.  B-)



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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-28 Thread Pedro Quaresma


> > I would, 'cept my LGoP2's wrapped.
>
> Damn!  Which means that I either need to trade you something permanently
> for it, or I need to pry it from your cold dead hands.  :-)

>Uh, no, that means the cold dead hands thing is your only option.  (I
don't
>trade from my personal collection. B-)

Not even on extreme situations? Here's a Myth, a Lucifer's Realm and a
handsigned Akalabeth for your LGoP2. Will you trade it now? ;)


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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-28 Thread Pedro Quaresma


"Lee K. Seitz" wrote:
>
> Jim Leonard boldly stated:
> >
> >I am building an online museum of old/classic PC sound hardware, and
while I
> >have a lot of neat devices to put online with pictures, sound clips,
etc., I no
> >longer have my Life-Size Sound Enhancer.  Does anyone have a copy of
LGOP2
> >*with* the device that they would be willing to sell?  I will pay a fair
> >price...
>
> This game's on my wanted list, too.  Could someone tell me what sort
> of range "a fair price" would be?

>I'm willing to pay up to $100, but that's intentional overkill because I
want
>it for the museum.  I think most would agree that $30-$60 would be
appropriate
>according to condition.

There was one on ebay recently, didn't it have the "thingie"?

I'd still love to know if anyone knows the name of the actress/model that
played Melcinda.

> Cool idea, but it didn't work for me.  Maybe it'll work for Pedro.
> Interestingly enough, I've discovered I *can* get to
> PalmGamingWorld.com, though.

>"Gaming" != "Games" -- you may have a dumb program (or administrator ;-)

The last option sounds about right >;)

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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-27 Thread C.E. Forman

> > I would, 'cept my LGoP2's wrapped.
>
> Damn!  Which means that I either need to trade you something permanently
> for it, or I need to pry it from your cold dead hands.  :-)

Uh, no, that means the cold dead hands thing is your only option.  (I don't
trade from my personal collection. B-)



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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-27 Thread Jim Leonard

"C.E. Forman" wrote:
> 
> Well, considering it was prone to unexpected hangs, yeah, I'd call that
> sucking.

I could ask him, but I don't think he'd know -- he just did the sound
replay routines.
 
> > Since nobody responded to my LGOP2 offer, I'll make another one:  Does
> anyone
> > have a LGOP2 with the sound device that they would be willing to LEND me?
> I'll
> > put up my rare EA PC flatboxes "Timothy Leary's Mind Mirror" and "Murder
> on the
> > Zinderneuf" as collateral, so you don't have to worry that I won't give it
> > back...  (I'd put a smiley here, but I really am serious.)
> 
> I would, 'cept my LGoP2's wrapped.

Damn!  Which means that I either need to trade you something permanently
for it, or I need to pry it from your cold dead hands.  :-)

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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-27 Thread C.E. Forman

> > Jim, you said you talked to one of the LGoP2 programmers?  Did they
happen
> > to offer any explanation for why the game sucked so bad?
>
> Programmer != Designer.  :-)  Or are you saying it sucked badly because it
was
> programmed incompetently?

Well, considering it was prone to unexpected hangs, yeah, I'd call that
sucking.

> Since nobody responded to my LGOP2 offer, I'll make another one:  Does
anyone
> have a LGOP2 with the sound device that they would be willing to LEND me?
I'll
> put up my rare EA PC flatboxes "Timothy Leary's Mind Mirror" and "Murder
on the
> Zinderneuf" as collateral, so you don't have to worry that I won't give it
> back...  (I'd put a smiley here, but I really am serious.)

I would, 'cept my LGoP2's wrapped.



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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-27 Thread Lee K. Seitz

Jim Leonard boldly stated:
>
>> Cool idea, but it didn't work for me.  Maybe it'll work for Pedro.
>> Interestingly enough, I've discovered I *can* get to
>> PalmGamingWorld.com, though.
>
>"Gaming" != "Games" -- you may have a dumb program (or administrator ;-)

But you see, I can't get to ClassicGaming.com, either.

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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-27 Thread Jim Leonard

"Lee K. Seitz" wrote:
> 
> Jim Leonard boldly stated:
> >
> >I am building an online museum of old/classic PC sound hardware, and while I
> >have a lot of neat devices to put online with pictures, sound clips, etc., I no
> >longer have my Life-Size Sound Enhancer.  Does anyone have a copy of LGOP2
> >*with* the device that they would be willing to sell?  I will pay a fair
> >price...
> 
> This game's on my wanted list, too.  Could someone tell me what sort
> of range "a fair price" would be?

I'm willing to pay up to $100, but that's intentional overkill because I want
it for the museum.  I think most would agree that $30-$60 would be appropriate
according to condition.
 
> Cool idea, but it didn't work for me.  Maybe it'll work for Pedro.
> Interestingly enough, I've discovered I *can* get to
> PalmGamingWorld.com, though.

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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-27 Thread Jim Leonard

"C.E. Forman" wrote:
> 
> Jim, you said you talked to one of the LGoP2 programmers?  Did they happen
> to offer any explanation for why the game sucked so bad?

Programmer != Designer.  :-)  Or are you saying it sucked badly because it was
programmed incompetently?

Since nobody responded to my LGOP2 offer, I'll make another one:  Does anyone
have a LGOP2 with the sound device that they would be willing to LEND me?  I'll
put up my rare EA PC flatboxes "Timothy Leary's Mind Mirror" and "Murder on the
Zinderneuf" as collateral, so you don't have to worry that I won't give it
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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-27 Thread Pedro Quaresma


KK>LGoP2 had the little plug thing included in all the games, I believe it
was
KK>a copy protection/sound accessory.  I have an old two page add for the
game,
KK>has this hottie
KK>in a black teddy on it, and the tag line "If this is who is trying to
take
KK>over earth... Is the planet REALLY worth saving?"

I remember the character was called Melcinda... but what about her real
name?

CEF>I remember this ad.  It ran in an issue of VG&CE, possibly other mags,
for a
CEF>very brief period (couple of months, max).  Activision sure knew how to
CEF>market total crap.  B-)

I guess this one should've been released with a poster too... =)

JL>Crap!  Well, can you use the IP address instead?  Like, does
JL>http://207.88.53.37 work for you?  If not, try it from home; if you
don't have
JL>access from home, I can email you the cover scans you want.

I can use the IP, but a) I'm guessing the IP for img.mobygames.com is
different? b) When I login, I am redirected to www.mobygames.com again, so
I simply cannot log onto your site :(

Worse still, I have no internet at home. Oh well.

LKS>Cool idea, but it didn't work for me.  Maybe it'll work for Pedro.
LKS>Interestingly enough, I've discovered I *can* get to
LKS>PalmGamingWorld.com, though.

Nope :( Had already tried it. palmgamingworld.com works because it doesn't
have the word "game".

Try just game.com or games.com. if you get the access denied message before
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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-26 Thread C.E. Forman

>LGoP2 had the little plug thing included in all the games, I believe it was
>a copy protection/sound accessory.

Just a sound accessory, for players who didn't have sound cards -- and it
was 1993, there were still people like that back then.  It was included in
all versions.

>I have an old two page add for the game,
>has this hottie
>in a black teddy on it, and the tag line "If this is who is trying to take
>over earth... Is the planet REALLY worth saving?"

I remember this ad.  It ran in an issue of VG&CE, possibly other mags, for a
very brief period (couple of months, max).  Activision sure knew how to
market total crap.  B-)

Jim, you said you talked to one of the LGoP2 programmers?  Did they happen
to offer any explanation for why the game sucked so bad?



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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-26 Thread Lee K. Seitz

Jim Leonard boldly stated:
>
>I am building an online museum of old/classic PC sound hardware, and while I
>have a lot of neat devices to put online with pictures, sound clips, etc., I no
>longer have my Life-Size Sound Enhancer.  Does anyone have a copy of LGOP2
>*with* the device that they would be willing to sell?  I will pay a fair
>price...

This game's on my wanted list, too.  Could someone tell me what sort
of range "a fair price" would be?

>Crap!  Well, can you use the IP address instead?  Like, does
>http://207.88.53.37 work for you?

Cool idea, but it didn't work for me.  Maybe it'll work for Pedro. 
Interestingly enough, I've discovered I *can* get to
PalmGamingWorld.com, though.

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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-26 Thread Jim Leonard

"Lee K. Seitz" wrote:
> 
> Pedro Quaresma boldly stated:
> >
> >Also, Leather Goddesses of Phobos 2 had a photo of two pretty girls on a
> >gas station on the box... which reminds me of another question: I once saw
> >in Spain a "special" (??) version of LGoP2 that included a serial port
> >sound system of some sort. Was it really a special edition? Or did all of
> >them include that thing?
> 
> I thought all of them included it, but I could be wrong.
> 
> >>If nobody has a copy, MobyGames.com should have the cover scans.
> >
> >Oh Jim, it was a terrible choice for the name of the site :) You probably
> >should've called it MobyPlayfulThingsThatRunOnYourComputer.com ;)
> >
> >(Obviously I have nothing against the site name; but the company I work for
> >has restricted access to all sites with "games" on it, to stop massive
> >downloads from the web from the employees).
> 
> Hmmm, I wonder if that's why I can't get to it from work either, now.
> They've blocked access to porn and gambling sites.  I guess blocking
> all URLs with "game" or "gaming" in them would help cover the latter.

And unfortunately I found out that while you can use the IP address, we have
anti-leech code in that causes the pictures not to display.  Sorry!  Well, I
guess you guys will have to access it from home...
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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-26 Thread Jim Leonard

Pedro Quaresma wrote:
> 
> >is Forsaken (1997).  Check out the front, back, and the
> >calendar inside the package :-)
> 
> What about Elvira 1? It has Cassandra Peterson on the box in her usual
> Elvira makeup and costume.

Yes, but I thought the question was about new packages.
 
> Also, Leather Goddesses of Phobos 2 had a photo of two pretty girls on a
> gas station on the box... which reminds me of another question: I once saw
> in Spain a "special" (??) version of LGoP2 that included a serial port
> sound system of some sort. Was it really a special edition? Or did all of
> them include that thing?

They all did -- it was called the Lifesize Sound Enhancer.  One of the
programmers told me once it was some sort of special device, but I cracked one
open (in my younger foolish days when collecting software and keeping packages
intact wasn't a priority) and didn't see anything special -- it just looked
like a traditional D/A device built out of resistors with (I think) a capacitor
as a crude amp.

I am building an online museum of old/classic PC sound hardware, and while I
have a lot of neat devices to put online with pictures, sound clips, etc., I no
longer have my Life-Size Sound Enhancer.  Does anyone have a copy of LGOP2
*with* the device that they would be willing to sell?  I will pay a fair
price...
 
> >If nobody has a copy, MobyGames.com should have the cover scans.
> 
> Oh Jim, it was a terrible choice for the name of the site :) You probably
> should've called it MobyPlayfulThingsThatRunOnYourComputer.com ;)
> 
> (Obviously I have nothing against the site name; but the company I work for
> has restricted access to all sites with "games" on it, to stop massive
> downloads from the web from the employees).

Crap!  Well, can you use the IP address instead?  Like, does
http://207.88.53.37 work for you?  If not, try it from home; if you don't have
access from home, I can email you the cover scans you want.
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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-26 Thread Karl Kuras

Pedro Quaresma wrote:

  Also, Leather Goddesses of Phobos 2 had a photo of two pretty girls on a
  gas station on the box... which reminds me of another question: I once saw
  in Spain a "special" (??) version of LGoP2 that included a serial port
  sound system of some sort. Was it really a special edition? Or did all of
  them include that thing?

LGoP2 had the little plug thing included in all the games, I believe it was
a copy protection/sound accessory.  I have an old two page add for the game,
has this hottie
in a black teddy on it, and the tag line "If this is who is trying to take
over earth... Is the planet REALLY worth saving?"

Too bad the game wasn't as good as the ad campaign

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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-26 Thread Lee K. Seitz

Pedro Quaresma boldly stated:
>
>Also, Leather Goddesses of Phobos 2 had a photo of two pretty girls on a
>gas station on the box... which reminds me of another question: I once saw
>in Spain a "special" (??) version of LGoP2 that included a serial port
>sound system of some sort. Was it really a special edition? Or did all of
>them include that thing?

I thought all of them included it, but I could be wrong.

>>If nobody has a copy, MobyGames.com should have the cover scans.
>
>Oh Jim, it was a terrible choice for the name of the site :) You probably
>should've called it MobyPlayfulThingsThatRunOnYourComputer.com ;)
>
>(Obviously I have nothing against the site name; but the company I work for
>has restricted access to all sites with "games" on it, to stop massive
>downloads from the web from the employees).

Hmmm, I wonder if that's why I can't get to it from work either, now.
They've blocked access to porn and gambling sites.  I guess blocking
all URLs with "game" or "gaming" in them would help cover the latter.

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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-26 Thread Pedro Quaresma


>
> Also, I remember Vixen, was the same, or very similar game engine to
> Thundercats.  Hottie on the cover they just don't put hot chicks on
> enough covers anymore.  Does anyone else remember games like Turbo Girl,
> Game Over, Phantis and Megacorp?  Now THAT was cover art. either
> that or being a young teenager at the time really engrained those in my
> head.

>The closest equivalent I can think of (aside from all the Everquest/RPG
fantasy
>Boris-wannabe pix)

Boris Vallejo? Another great artist, I love his artwork

>is Forsaken (1997).  Check out the front, back, and the
>calendar inside the package :-)

What about Elvira 1? It has Cassandra Peterson on the box in her usual
Elvira makeup and costume.

Also, Leather Goddesses of Phobos 2 had a photo of two pretty girls on a
gas station on the box... which reminds me of another question: I once saw
in Spain a "special" (??) version of LGoP2 that included a serial port
sound system of some sort. Was it really a special edition? Or did all of
them include that thing?

>If nobody has a copy, MobyGames.com should have the cover scans.

Oh Jim, it was a terrible choice for the name of the site :) You probably
should've called it MobyPlayfulThingsThatRunOnYourComputer.com ;)

(Obviously I have nothing against the site name; but the company I work for
has restricted access to all sites with "games" on it, to stop massive
downloads from the web from the employees).


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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-26 Thread Jim Leonard

Karl Kuras wrote:
> 
> Also, I remember Vixen, was the same, or very similar game engine to
> Thundercats.  Hottie on the cover they just don't put hot chicks on
> enough covers anymore.  Does anyone else remember games like Turbo Girl,
> Game Over, Phantis and Megacorp?  Now THAT was cover art. either
> that or being a young teenager at the time really engrained those in my
> head.

The closest equivalent I can think of (aside from all the Everquest/RPG fantasy
Boris-wannabe pix) is Forsaken (1997).  Check out the front, back, and the
calendar inside the package :-)
 
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RE: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-21 Thread Hugh Falk

2 years is a long time, but thanks...I'll stick to eBay :-)

-Original Message-
From: Karl Kuras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 8:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question


Well, this is a long shot, but I got my copy about 2 years ago in a
small mom and pop computer shop in Panama City, Florida.  I was on
spring break, it was raining and I just started walking around (our car
had died as well... and yes, we had a good time).  They still have
another copy sitting on the shelf in case anyone wants to go get it...
don't ask me where the place is again though, i have no clue.

Hugh Falk wrote:

> Unfortunately, I can't find my original box (only the disks) for Barb II.
> The poster came for a magazine I got while in the UK.  Dang...I'll have to
> look for an original on eBay now :-(
>
> Hugh
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Karl Kuras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question
>
>
> Weird... your copy didn't come with a regular poster.  Mine has not other
> markings, but the ones from Palace.
>
> Hugh Falk wrote:
>
>> The poster I have is from a UK magazine -- CV+G.  It's folded into four
>> panels, each is 8" x 11.5"
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pedro Quaresma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 9:07 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question
>>
>>> Well, I have Barbarian II in a small quasi-5.25" box (slightly larger).
>>> It has the famous cover pic in front, a brief background story on the
>>> back (in I believe English, German and French), the contents include a
>>> poster of the cover (MAria Whittaker... ah), the game on 5.25"
>>> and a small manual.  It's for the PC (got it to run once on an old 286,
>>> but even there timing seemed to be off.
>>
>> I'm guessing the poster must be the hard-to-get item here. I still
haven't
>> found any Barbarian with it anywhere
>>
>>> I'd like t know which versions were released here in the states,
>>> wouldn't mind hunting that one down.
>>
>> The Death Sword and Axe of Rage boxes are completely different and
>> completely uninteresting (read, no Maria Whittaker on them ;)
>>
>>> Also, I remember Vixen, was the same, or very similar game engine to
>>> Thundercats.  Hottie on the cover
>>
>> Corinne Russell, other (relatively) famous british page-3 girl.
>>
>>> they just don't put hot chicks on
>>> enough covers anymore.
>>
>> Many people consider Lara Croft "hot". God knows why.
>>
>>> Does anyone else remember games like Turbo Girl,
>>> Game Over, Phantis and Megacorp?  Now THAT was cover art. either
>>> that or being a young teenager at the time really engrained those in my
>>> head.
>>
>> I remember Game Over, as the drawing was made by Luis Royo, a great
>
> Spanish
>
>> artist. Can you direct me to a scan of the others?
>>
>> With the same...errr... box topic, I remember an arcade game called
>
> Entity.
>
>> Also, CE Forman has added on his page some information about Sex Vixens
>> from Space.
>>
>>> Karl Kuras
>>
>> Pedro R. Quaresma
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>
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RE: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-21 Thread Hugh Falk

Actually, it's Computers + Video Games (my typo with the + before).
Unfortunately it doesn't mention the issue on the poster :-(  My guess would
be a 1988 or 89 issue though.

Hugh

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 8:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question



>Well, this is a long shot, but I got my copy about 2 years ago in a
>small mom and pop computer shop in Panama City, Florida.

Hmmm, right next door! ;)

>I was on
>spring break, it was raining and I just started walking around (our car
>had died as well... and yes, we had a good time).  They still have
>another copy sitting on the shelf in case anyone wants to go get it...
>don't ask me where the place is again though, i have no clue.

How do you know they still have another copy?

Anyway, they must be easy to find in Europe, Palace Soft being an European
company...I think.

BTW, Jim, What magazine is CV+G? Does the poster mention which number it
was sold with?

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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-21 Thread Pedro Quaresma


>Well, this is a long shot, but I got my copy about 2 years ago in a
>small mom and pop computer shop in Panama City, Florida.

Hmmm, right next door! ;)

>I was on
>spring break, it was raining and I just started walking around (our car
>had died as well... and yes, we had a good time).  They still have
>another copy sitting on the shelf in case anyone wants to go get it...
>don't ask me where the place is again though, i have no clue.

How do you know they still have another copy?

Anyway, they must be easy to find in Europe, Palace Soft being an European
company...I think.

BTW, Jim, What magazine is CV+G? Does the poster mention which number it
was sold with?

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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-21 Thread Karl Kuras

Well, this is a long shot, but I got my copy about 2 years ago in a 
small mom and pop computer shop in Panama City, Florida.  I was on 
spring break, it was raining and I just started walking around (our car 
had died as well... and yes, we had a good time).  They still have 
another copy sitting on the shelf in case anyone wants to go get it... 
don't ask me where the place is again though, i have no clue.

Hugh Falk wrote:

> Unfortunately, I can't find my original box (only the disks) for Barb II.
> The poster came for a magazine I got while in the UK.  Dang...I'll have to
> look for an original on eBay now :-(
> 
> Hugh
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Karl Kuras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question
> 
> 
> Weird... your copy didn't come with a regular poster.  Mine has not other
> markings, but the ones from Palace.
> 
> Hugh Falk wrote:
> 
>> The poster I have is from a UK magazine -- CV+G.  It's folded into four
>> panels, each is 8" x 11.5"
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pedro Quaresma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 9:07 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question
>> 
>>> Well, I have Barbarian II in a small quasi-5.25" box (slightly larger).
>>> It has the famous cover pic in front, a brief background story on the
>>> back (in I believe English, German and French), the contents include a
>>> poster of the cover (MAria Whittaker... ah), the game on 5.25"
>>> and a small manual.  It's for the PC (got it to run once on an old 286,
>>> but even there timing seemed to be off.
>> 
>> I'm guessing the poster must be the hard-to-get item here. I still haven't
>> found any Barbarian with it anywhere
>> 
>>> I'd like t know which versions were released here in the states,
>>> wouldn't mind hunting that one down.
>> 
>> The Death Sword and Axe of Rage boxes are completely different and
>> completely uninteresting (read, no Maria Whittaker on them ;)
>> 
>>> Also, I remember Vixen, was the same, or very similar game engine to
>>> Thundercats.  Hottie on the cover
>> 
>> Corinne Russell, other (relatively) famous british page-3 girl.
>> 
>>> they just don't put hot chicks on
>>> enough covers anymore.
>> 
>> Many people consider Lara Croft "hot". God knows why.
>> 
>>> Does anyone else remember games like Turbo Girl,
>>> Game Over, Phantis and Megacorp?  Now THAT was cover art. either
>>> that or being a young teenager at the time really engrained those in my
>>> head.
>> 
>> I remember Game Over, as the drawing was made by Luis Royo, a great
> 
> Spanish
> 
>> artist. Can you direct me to a scan of the others?
>> 
>> With the same...errr... box topic, I remember an arcade game called
> 
> Entity.
> 
>> Also, CE Forman has added on his page some information about Sex Vixens
>> from Space.
>> 
>>> Karl Kuras
>> 
>> Pedro R. Quaresma
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "All your base are belong to us"
>> 
>> http://www.salvador-caetano.pt
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RE: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-20 Thread Hugh Falk

Unfortunately, I can't find my original box (only the disks) for Barb II.
The poster came for a magazine I got while in the UK.  Dang...I'll have to
look for an original on eBay now :-(

Hugh

-Original Message-
From: Karl Kuras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question


Weird... your copy didn't come with a regular poster.  Mine has not other
markings, but the ones from Palace.

Hugh Falk wrote:

> The poster I have is from a UK magazine -- CV+G.  It's folded into four
> panels, each is 8" x 11.5"
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pedro Quaresma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 9:07 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question
>
> >Well, I have Barbarian II in a small quasi-5.25" box (slightly larger).
> >It has the famous cover pic in front, a brief background story on the
> >back (in I believe English, German and French), the contents include a
> >poster of the cover (MAria Whittaker... ah), the game on 5.25"
> >and a small manual.  It's for the PC (got it to run once on an old 286,
> >but even there timing seemed to be off.
>
> I'm guessing the poster must be the hard-to-get item here. I still haven't
> found any Barbarian with it anywhere
>
> >I'd like t know which versions were released here in the states,
> >wouldn't mind hunting that one down.
>
> The Death Sword and Axe of Rage boxes are completely different and
> completely uninteresting (read, no Maria Whittaker on them ;)
>
> >Also, I remember Vixen, was the same, or very similar game engine to
> >Thundercats.  Hottie on the cover
>
> Corinne Russell, other (relatively) famous british page-3 girl.
>
> >they just don't put hot chicks on
> >enough covers anymore.
>
> Many people consider Lara Croft "hot". God knows why.
>
> >Does anyone else remember games like Turbo Girl,
> >Game Over, Phantis and Megacorp?  Now THAT was cover art. either
> >that or being a young teenager at the time really engrained those in my
> >head.
>
> I remember Game Over, as the drawing was made by Luis Royo, a great
Spanish
> artist. Can you direct me to a scan of the others?
>
> With the same...errr... box topic, I remember an arcade game called
Entity.
> Also, CE Forman has added on his page some information about Sex Vixens
> from Space.
>
> >Karl Kuras
>
> Pedro R. Quaresma
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-20 Thread Karl Kuras

Weird... your copy didn't come with a regular poster.  Mine has not other
markings, but the ones from Palace.

Hugh Falk wrote:

> The poster I have is from a UK magazine -- CV+G.  It's folded into four
> panels, each is 8" x 11.5"
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pedro Quaresma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 9:07 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question
>
> >Well, I have Barbarian II in a small quasi-5.25" box (slightly larger).
> >It has the famous cover pic in front, a brief background story on the
> >back (in I believe English, German and French), the contents include a
> >poster of the cover (MAria Whittaker... ah), the game on 5.25"
> >and a small manual.  It's for the PC (got it to run once on an old 286,
> >but even there timing seemed to be off.
>
> I'm guessing the poster must be the hard-to-get item here. I still haven't
> found any Barbarian with it anywhere
>
> >I'd like t know which versions were released here in the states,
> >wouldn't mind hunting that one down.
>
> The Death Sword and Axe of Rage boxes are completely different and
> completely uninteresting (read, no Maria Whittaker on them ;)
>
> >Also, I remember Vixen, was the same, or very similar game engine to
> >Thundercats.  Hottie on the cover
>
> Corinne Russell, other (relatively) famous british page-3 girl.
>
> >they just don't put hot chicks on
> >enough covers anymore.
>
> Many people consider Lara Croft "hot". God knows why.
>
> >Does anyone else remember games like Turbo Girl,
> >Game Over, Phantis and Megacorp?  Now THAT was cover art. either
> >that or being a young teenager at the time really engrained those in my
> >head.
>
> I remember Game Over, as the drawing was made by Luis Royo, a great Spanish
> artist. Can you direct me to a scan of the others?
>
> With the same...errr... box topic, I remember an arcade game called Entity.
> Also, CE Forman has added on his page some information about Sex Vixens
> from Space.
>
> >Karl Kuras
>
> Pedro R. Quaresma
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-20 Thread Hugh Falk

The poster I have is from a UK magazine -- CV+G.  It's folded into four
panels, each is 8" x 11.5"

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>Well, I have Barbarian II in a small quasi-5.25" box (slightly larger).
>It has the famous cover pic in front, a brief background story on the
>back (in I believe English, German and French), the contents include a
>poster of the cover (MAria Whittaker... ah), the game on 5.25"
>and a small manual.  It's for the PC (got it to run once on an old 286,
>but even there timing seemed to be off.

I'm guessing the poster must be the hard-to-get item here. I still haven't
found any Barbarian with it anywhere

>I'd like t know which versions were released here in the states,
>wouldn't mind hunting that one down.

The Death Sword and Axe of Rage boxes are completely different and
completely uninteresting (read, no Maria Whittaker on them ;)

>Also, I remember Vixen, was the same, or very similar game engine to
>Thundercats.  Hottie on the cover

Corinne Russell, other (relatively) famous british page-3 girl.

>they just don't put hot chicks on
>enough covers anymore.

Many people consider Lara Croft "hot". God knows why.

>Does anyone else remember games like Turbo Girl,
>Game Over, Phantis and Megacorp?  Now THAT was cover art. either
>that or being a young teenager at the time really engrained those in my
>head.

I remember Game Over, as the drawing was made by Luis Royo, a great Spanish
artist. Can you direct me to a scan of the others?

With the same...errr... box topic, I remember an arcade game called Entity.
Also, CE Forman has added on his page some information about Sex Vixens
from Space.

>Karl Kuras

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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-20 Thread Pedro Quaresma


>Well, I have Barbarian II in a small quasi-5.25" box (slightly larger).
>It has the famous cover pic in front, a brief background story on the
>back (in I believe English, German and French), the contents include a
>poster of the cover (MAria Whittaker... ah), the game on 5.25"
>and a small manual.  It's for the PC (got it to run once on an old 286,
>but even there timing seemed to be off.

I'm guessing the poster must be the hard-to-get item here. I still haven't
found any Barbarian with it anywhere

>I'd like t know which versions were released here in the states,
>wouldn't mind hunting that one down.

The Death Sword and Axe of Rage boxes are completely different and
completely uninteresting (read, no Maria Whittaker on them ;)

>Also, I remember Vixen, was the same, or very similar game engine to
>Thundercats.  Hottie on the cover

Corinne Russell, other (relatively) famous british page-3 girl.

>they just don't put hot chicks on
>enough covers anymore.

Many people consider Lara Croft "hot". God knows why.

>Does anyone else remember games like Turbo Girl,
>Game Over, Phantis and Megacorp?  Now THAT was cover art. either
>that or being a young teenager at the time really engrained those in my
>head.

I remember Game Over, as the drawing was made by Luis Royo, a great Spanish
artist. Can you direct me to a scan of the others?

With the same...errr... box topic, I remember an arcade game called Entity.
Also, CE Forman has added on his page some information about Sex Vixens
from Space.

>Karl Kuras

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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-20 Thread Karl Kuras

Well, I have Barbarian II in a small quasi-5.25" box (slightly larger).  
It has the famous cover pic in front, a brief background story on the 
back (in I believe English, German and French), the contents include a 
poster of the cover (MAria Whittaker... ah), the game on 5.25" 
and a small manual.  It's for the PC (got it to run once on an old 286, 
but even there timing seemed to be off.

I'd like t know which versions were released here in the states, 
wouldn't mind hunting that one down.

Also, I remember Vixen, was the same, or very similar game engine to 
Thundercats.  Hottie on the cover they just don't put hot chicks on 
enough covers anymore.  Does anyone else remember games like Turbo Girl, 
Game Over, Phantis and Megacorp?  Now THAT was cover art. either 
that or being a young teenager at the time really engrained those in my 
head.

Karl Kuras

Pedro Quaresma wrote:

>> Good point on that one Pedro.  I have that similar poster from the UK
>> version of Barbarian II stored in plastic...very...nice. :-)
>> 
>> Hugh
> 
> 
> :) Didn't Barbarian I have a poster too? Any chance you could tell me the
> exact contents of each of them? And, more important, for which platform do
> you have I and II?
> 
> I've seen Barbarian I and II everywhere, but usually either the C64 or
> Sinclair Spectrum versions, with only the tape, cassette box (or whatever
> that's called) and the inlay instructions. No "large box", manual, poster,
> etc.
> 
> For the same reasons (ahem) as Barbarian, another game worth collecting is
> Vixen (Martech). Was this one ever released in the US? If so, by which
> name?
> 
> 
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RE: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-20 Thread Pedro Quaresma


>Good point on that one Pedro.  I have that similar poster from the UK
>version of Barbarian II stored in plastic...very...nice. :-)
>
>Hugh

:) Didn't Barbarian I have a poster too? Any chance you could tell me the
exact contents of each of them? And, more important, for which platform do
you have I and II?

I've seen Barbarian I and II everywhere, but usually either the C64 or
Sinclair Spectrum versions, with only the tape, cassette box (or whatever
that's called) and the inlay instructions. No "large box", manual, poster,
etc.

For the same reasons (ahem) as Barbarian, another game worth collecting is
Vixen (Martech). Was this one ever released in the US? If so, by which
name?


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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-19 Thread Jim Leonard

Hugh Falk wrote:
> 
> Epyx released a game called "Axe of Rage"...I don't remember what the game
> was about, but that could be it.  I also have the UK version of Barbarian
> II...not as good as the orginal overall, but still a very good game.

Axe of Rage was indeed Barbarian 2, but I don't think it was published
for the PC.  I hope I'm wrong, though, as I would love to see it (I'm a
fan of the original US Death Sword -- in fact, Death Sword is probably
the #1 reason MobyGames exists, as Brian and I used to play it all the
time).
 
> Hugh
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Karl Kuras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 3:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question
> 
> Hey, since Barbarian has been mentioned, I have a UK copy of Barbarian II:
> Dungeons of Drax (the actual Palace sequel, not the Psygnosis game), does
> anyone
> know if that game was ever published here in the states and if so under what
> name?
> 
> Hugh Falk wrote:
> 
> > Package variations are the spice of life...go for both if you can!  I like
> > to have games like Barbarian (UK) and its USA counterpart (Death Sword) to
> > show the differences.
> >
> > Hugh
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Karl Kuras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:44 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question
> >
> > Well, I'm guessing it's one of the Amber games or the Schwarzeauge games
> > (can't remember what they called it here in the states, maybe realms of
> > Arkania).
> >
> > Now considering that I'm German, I'm a wee bit biased and woudl buy the
> > German version if I don't have too pay too much for it.
> >
> >  From a collection stand point, if both packages are of equal quality
> > (quite a few foreign games get a budget treatment over here... look at
> > the original Pizza Tycoon (originally Pizza Connection)).
> >
> > I'm a purist, go with the original packaging!
> >
> > Pedro Quaresma wrote:
> >
> > > I have this hypothetical question I'd like to present to all of you:
> > >
> > > Imagine game X, made by company Y.
> > > Company Y is from Germany, so X is released in german. X is then
> released
> > > in the USA in english, by company Z. Same box, same contents, only
> > > translated, and different company logo on the box.
> > >
> > > Now you don't want to play game X, you just want it for your collection.
> > > What would you do?
> > >
> > > a) Buy X both in german and english (in case you choose this one please
> > > choose also one of the other two)
> > > b) Buy the original german version of X
> > > c) Buy the US version, in english, of X
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for your opinions,
> > > Pedro
> > >
> > > PS: Extra lump of sugar if you can guess which X I'm referring to. Hint:
> > > it's a RPG.
> > >
> > >
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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-19 Thread C.E. Forman

Hi Pedro,

Assuming it's the type of game I collect (i.e. parser adventure or anything
Infocom), I'd eventually want both as I'm big on package variations.  Since
your scenario states that the game is for collecting and not for playing, I
probably wouldn't have a preference on which was obtained first.

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From: Pedro Quaresma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:26 AM
Subject: [SWCollect] hypothetical question


> I have this hypothetical question I'd like to present to all of you:
>
> Imagine game X, made by company Y.
> Company Y is from Germany, so X is released in german. X is then released
> in the USA in english, by company Z. Same box, same contents, only
> translated, and different company logo on the box.
>
> Now you don't want to play game X, you just want it for your collection.
> What would you do?
>
> a) Buy X both in german and english (in case you choose this one please
> choose also one of the other two)
> b) Buy the original german version of X
> c) Buy the US version, in english, of X
>
> Thanks in advance for your opinions,
> Pedro
>
> PS: Extra lump of sugar if you can guess which X I'm referring to. Hint:
> it's a RPG.
>
>
> Pedro R. Quaresma
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
>
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RE: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-19 Thread Hugh Falk

Epyx released a game called "Axe of Rage"...I don't remember what the game
was about, but that could be it.  I also have the UK version of Barbarian
II...not as good as the orginal overall, but still a very good game.

Hugh

-Original Message-
From: Karl Kuras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 3:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question


Hey, since Barbarian has been mentioned, I have a UK copy of Barbarian II:
Dungeons of Drax (the actual Palace sequel, not the Psygnosis game), does
anyone
know if that game was ever published here in the states and if so under what
name?

Hugh Falk wrote:

> Package variations are the spice of life...go for both if you can!  I like
> to have games like Barbarian (UK) and its USA counterpart (Death Sword) to
> show the differences.
>
> Hugh
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Karl Kuras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:44 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question
>
> Well, I'm guessing it's one of the Amber games or the Schwarzeauge games
> (can't remember what they called it here in the states, maybe realms of
> Arkania).
>
> Now considering that I'm German, I'm a wee bit biased and woudl buy the
> German version if I don't have too pay too much for it.
>
>  From a collection stand point, if both packages are of equal quality
> (quite a few foreign games get a budget treatment over here... look at
> the original Pizza Tycoon (originally Pizza Connection)).
>
> I'm a purist, go with the original packaging!
>
> Pedro Quaresma wrote:
>
> > I have this hypothetical question I'd like to present to all of you:
> >
> > Imagine game X, made by company Y.
> > Company Y is from Germany, so X is released in german. X is then
released
> > in the USA in english, by company Z. Same box, same contents, only
> > translated, and different company logo on the box.
> >
> > Now you don't want to play game X, you just want it for your collection.
> > What would you do?
> >
> > a) Buy X both in german and english (in case you choose this one please
> > choose also one of the other two)
> > b) Buy the original german version of X
> > c) Buy the US version, in english, of X
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your opinions,
> > Pedro
> >
> > PS: Extra lump of sugar if you can guess which X I'm referring to. Hint:
> > it's a RPG.
> >
> >
> > Pedro R. Quaresma
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RE: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-19 Thread Hugh Falk

Good point on that one Pedro.  I have that similar poster from the UK
version of Barbarian II stored in plastic...very...nice. :-)

Hugh

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 11:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question



Actually, Karl, you were close. It wasn't one of the Amber* RPGs (which I'd
love to get, no matter the language!) or the Arkania saga, of which I
really prefer the US version because I don't (yet) understand too much of
german and I really like the saga. It was actually Legend of Faerghail,
which I found both versions for sale, and I know they're both pretty
uncommon.

Hugh, although Barbarian and Death Sword have _completely_ different boxes,
in this specific case I'd say the UK version is the one worth having... you
know why. 0:)

But because I set a precedent with the Arkania games, I'm a bit inclined
towards Jim's opinion. I can't afford to get all versions of all RPGs I
find or I'd go broke just with german RPGs that crossed the ocean.

Any more opinions?

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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-19 Thread Karl Kuras

Hey, since Barbarian has been mentioned, I have a UK copy of Barbarian II:
Dungeons of Drax (the actual Palace sequel, not the Psygnosis game), does anyone
know if that game was ever published here in the states and if so under what name?

Hugh Falk wrote:

> Package variations are the spice of life...go for both if you can!  I like
> to have games like Barbarian (UK) and its USA counterpart (Death Sword) to
> show the differences.
>
> Hugh
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Karl Kuras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:44 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question
>
> Well, I'm guessing it's one of the Amber games or the Schwarzeauge games
> (can't remember what they called it here in the states, maybe realms of
> Arkania).
>
> Now considering that I'm German, I'm a wee bit biased and woudl buy the
> German version if I don't have too pay too much for it.
>
>  From a collection stand point, if both packages are of equal quality
> (quite a few foreign games get a budget treatment over here... look at
> the original Pizza Tycoon (originally Pizza Connection)).
>
> I'm a purist, go with the original packaging!
>
> Pedro Quaresma wrote:
>
> > I have this hypothetical question I'd like to present to all of you:
> >
> > Imagine game X, made by company Y.
> > Company Y is from Germany, so X is released in german. X is then released
> > in the USA in english, by company Z. Same box, same contents, only
> > translated, and different company logo on the box.
> >
> > Now you don't want to play game X, you just want it for your collection.
> > What would you do?
> >
> > a) Buy X both in german and english (in case you choose this one please
> > choose also one of the other two)
> > b) Buy the original german version of X
> > c) Buy the US version, in english, of X
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your opinions,
> > Pedro
> >
> > PS: Extra lump of sugar if you can guess which X I'm referring to. Hint:
> > it's a RPG.
> >
> >
> > Pedro R. Quaresma
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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-19 Thread Pedro Quaresma


Actually, Karl, you were close. It wasn't one of the Amber* RPGs (which I'd
love to get, no matter the language!) or the Arkania saga, of which I
really prefer the US version because I don't (yet) understand too much of
german and I really like the saga. It was actually Legend of Faerghail,
which I found both versions for sale, and I know they're both pretty
uncommon.

Hugh, although Barbarian and Death Sword have _completely_ different boxes,
in this specific case I'd say the UK version is the one worth having... you
know why. 0:)

But because I set a precedent with the Arkania games, I'm a bit inclined
towards Jim's opinion. I can't afford to get all versions of all RPGs I
find or I'd go broke just with german RPGs that crossed the ocean.

Any more opinions?

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Re: [SWCollect] hypothetical question

2001-06-19 Thread Karl Kuras

Well, I'm guessing it's one of the Amber games or the Schwarzeauge games 
(can't remember what they called it here in the states, maybe realms of 
Arkania).

Now considering that I'm German, I'm a wee bit biased and woudl buy the 
German version if I don't have too pay too much for it.

 From a collection stand point, if both packages are of equal quality 
(quite a few foreign games get a budget treatment over here... look at 
the original Pizza Tycoon (originally Pizza Connection)).

I'm a purist, go with the original packaging!

Pedro Quaresma wrote:

> I have this hypothetical question I'd like to present to all of you:
> 
> Imagine game X, made by company Y.
> Company Y is from Germany, so X is released in german. X is then released
> in the USA in english, by company Z. Same box, same contents, only
> translated, and different company logo on the box.
> 
> Now you don't want to play game X, you just want it for your collection.
> What would you do?
> 
> a) Buy X both in german and english (in case you choose this one please
> choose also one of the other two)
> b) Buy the original german version of X
> c) Buy the US version, in english, of X
> 
> Thanks in advance for your opinions,
> Pedro
> 
> PS: Extra lump of sugar if you can guess which X I'm referring to. Hint:
> it's a RPG.
> 
> 
> Pedro R. Quaresma
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "All your base are belong to us"
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