as a follow-up to our old discussion,
I joined the Armadeus project http://www.armadeus.com/wiki and will port their
BSP to Big-Endian mode. If I succeed to make sufficient amount of benchmark
tests
of BE vs. LE performance for ipv4 and ipv6, I'll present them at the Swinog
meeting
on
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:
as a follow-up to our old discussion,
I joined the Armadeus project http://www.armadeus.com/wiki and will port
their
BSP to Big-Endian mode. If I succeed to make sufficient amount of benchmark
tests
of BE vs. LE performance for ipv4 and ipv6, I'll present
:)
- Original Message
From: Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org
To: Stanislav Sinyagin ssinya...@yahoo.com
Cc: swi...@swinog.ch
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:28:02 PM
Subject: Re: [swinog] IPV6 Go (lazy providers)
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:
as a follow-up to our old discussion,
I joined
, and it works
perfectly.
Just a side note, nothing personal :)
- Original Message
From: Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org
To: Norbert Bollow n...@bollow.ch
Cc: swi...@swinog.ch; Andreas Fink af...@list.fink.org
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 11:26:59 AM
Subject: Re: [swinog] IPV6 Go
Hello!
Quite interesting discussion you have!
Am 26.02.09 11:17 schrieb Andy Davidson unter a...@nosignal.org:
- There seems to be no consensus about how to serve end user
addressing for ipv6
I see some open points which must be addressed in advance before IPv6 could
be delivered to anyone
Salut, Stanislav,
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:14:31 -0800 (PST), Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:
What you can fit into 2MB flash is Linux kernel 2.4.x, plus some
very limited number of libraries, daemons and utilities. Also,
even the newest 2.6.x kernel is permanently popping up with ipv6
On 04.03.2009, at 16:05, Beat Rubischon wrote:
Hello!
Quite interesting discussion you have!
Am 26.02.09 11:17 schrieb Andy Davidson unter a...@nosignal.org:
- There seems to be no consensus about how to serve end user
addressing for ipv6
I see some open points which must be addressed
On 04.03.2009, at 22:57, Norbert Bollow wrote:
Andreas Fink af...@list.fink.org wrote:
Currently, we will have a dual standard world for a while. so having
IPv4 server responding with IPv4/Ipv6 information is what we are
going
to see for a long long while. Nobody says you should NOT have
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 06:15:32AM +0100, Andreas Fink wrote:
Sorry folks but now you go off the planet.
If one thinks an embedded device can't do IPv6 because of CPU load,
think again.
An Wireless access point using OpenWRT does support IPv6 and just works.
I can't remember how slow those
Salut, Stanislav,
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:43:29 -0800 (PST), Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:
so, what? I'm not telling that ipv6 is impossible, I'm just telling
that there's no standard as such. And none of the big telcos would
afford building a custom solution: everyone waits for standards to be
Hey, Fredy,
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:25:38 +0100, Fredy Kuenzler wrote:
If you don't get extra v4 space in 1000 days, don't even consider to
complain. You have been warned.
Since RIPE is planning to reclaim unassigned allocations, I expect
a potential heart infarct of old IPv4 routers (Cogent?
On the Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:39:46PM +0100, Tonnerre Lombard blubbered:
Apple is gaining a lot of market share, and their products configure
IPv6 all by themselves. Same goes for Windows Vista. Ok, for XP you
have to install IPv6 support first, I think.
True, true. Though, there still are
On 28.02.2009, at 21:52, Martin Ebnoether wrote:
On the Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:39:46PM +0100, Tonnerre Lombard
blubbered:
Apple is gaining a lot of market share, and their products configure
IPv6 all by themselves. Same goes for Windows Vista. Ok, for XP you
have to install IPv6 support
- Original Message
From: Andreas Fink af...@list.fink.org
well, the Docsis 3.0 CMTS hardware is quite expensive,
if not saying dramatically expensive.
Then, the Docsis provisioning software is also quite expensive,
I guess you simply bought a dead end solution. Good
- Original Message
From: Andreas Fink af...@list.fink.org
well, the Docsis 3.0 CMTS hardware is quite expensive,
if not saying dramatically expensive.
Then, the Docsis provisioning software is also quite expensive,
I guess you simply bought a dead end solution. Good hardware
%
of ISP's income, and the ISP will rather keep them happy :)
From: Andreas Fink af...@list.fink.org
To: Stanislav Sinyagin ssinya...@yahoo.com
Cc: swi...@swinog.ch
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:50:34 AM
Subject: Re: [swinog] IPV6 Go (lazy providers
On 26.02.2009, at 10:00, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:
Andreas, you forgot one thing: you are not a user (although replying
in HTML to a
techie mailing list is a typical user behavior :-)
A typical user has windows XP at home, he buys cheap zyxel or D-link
hardware,
Windows XP is end of
On 26 Feb 2009, at 08:50, Andreas Fink wrote:
Sorry but most windows PCs and home servers would need some tuning
for v6 is just WRONG.
If you have a proper configured IPv6 router and you plug a MacOS X
or Linux box, they get IPv6 addresses automatically and are
connected. This is part
Am 26 Feb 2009 um 10:25 hat Fredy Kuenzler geschrieben:
Stanislav Sinyagin schrieb:
hardware is not ready, and the times wehre you install PPPoE on a single
client are long time gone. what to do with the famous family webcam, or the
X-Box of the son ?
so only solution is to have a box wich
Stanislav Sinyagin schrieb:
If you don't get extra v4 space in 1000 days, don't even consider
to complain. You have been warned.
I would very much worry, if my most important resource to maintain
my business would dry out in less than 1000 days. That's why we
fixed IPv6 in AS13030.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 01:52:50AM -0800, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:
If you don't get extra v4 space in 1000 days, don't even consider to
complain. You have been warned.
I would very much worry, if my most important resource to maintain my
business would dry out in less than 1000 days.
Nicolas Strina wrote:
Ok the hw is quite important but
well .. I see lots of CPE able to do the job even on DSL.
Nico, which manufacturers do you have in mind?
/Per
--
Per Jessen, Zürich (4.2°C)
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On 26.02.2009, at 11:27, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:
From: Andreas Fink af...@list.fink.org
Windows XP is end of life... forgot?
so what? 50 to 80% of users still use it. On 2-4 years old hardware.
Try telling them
that they have to buy new computers :)
why do you care ? They simply
Andreas, please roll back and remember where we started.
You tell me of some single cases where the user was convinced that ipv6 is not
scary. I'm telling you that the mass market is not ready, and it will take few
years
before you see any change.
What we have today is:
In DOCSIS
can invent a 'made for the new internet' sticker that
all of the CPE will want to carry on their packaging, and the CPE
problem will eventually go away.
.. In my opinion. :-)
Andy
very good idea .. supports the new internet sticker
but i getting worried when i think of
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:07:12PM +0100, Andreas Fink wrote:
On 26.02.2009, at 11:27, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:
...
For what its worth my router tells me this:
IPv6 routes: 1'577 entries, 1'194 AS numbers
IPv4 routes: 274'504 Ientries, 30'488 AS numbers
If the wold would be all IPv6,
On 26.02.2009, at 14:22, Claudio Jeker wrote:
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:07:12PM +0100, Andreas Fink wrote:
On 26.02.2009, at 11:27, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:
...
For what its worth my router tells me this:
IPv6 routes: 1'577 entries, 1'194 AS numbers
IPv4 routes: 274'504 Ientries,
On 26 Feb 2009, at 12:09, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:
At home, 80% of computers are not ipv6 ready, and 99% of users have
no idea what it is.
In mass-market hardware shops, ipv6 is terra incognita.
They don't know what ipv4 is. The users just want the services. The
role of the ISP and
On 26/02/2009 2:32, ro...@mgz.ch ro...@mgz.ch wrote:
[...]
can invent a 'made for the new internet' sticker that
all of the CPE will want to carry on their packaging, and the CPE
problem will eventually go away.
.. In my opinion. :-)
[...]
very good idea .. supports the new
leo,
Just labelling things as new doesn't mean they'll sell. People will want
to know what what new features they'll get on the new Internet. Will it
be faster? Will there be new content? With DOCSIS 3.0 there is the promise
of faster connections, which may well be a selling point to
in my oppinion your thinking the wrong way ..
ipv6 is not a feature to sell.. its a change which have to be done and now the
client standing in front of the router in interdiscount guess he will buy ? the
box with the new internet sticker or the one wich doesnt have it ?
He is not able to read
Am 26 Feb 2009 um 17:53 hat Steven Glogger geschrieben:
if you want to introduce 'new technologies' like ipv6
you have to give them some goodies and stuff like 'what's better'.
but maybe we have to come away from this thinking - because when we have
no more ipv4 we have to use ipv6.
not have such option either...
- Original Message
From: ro...@mgz.ch ro...@mgz.ch
To: swi...@swinog.ch
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 6:45:20 PM
Subject: Re: [swinog] IPV6 Go (lazy providers)
in my oppinion your thinking the wrong way ..
ipv6 is not a feature to sell.. its
Salut, Stanislav,
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:17:07 -0800 (PST), Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:
in DSL market, it's even worse: the Broadband Forum has not released
yet any ipv6 related document...
Well, almost every modem supports the bridge mode, where IP6CP can be
applied without any problems. The
:
http://www.broadband-forum.org/technical/trlist.php
- Original Message
From: Tonnerre Lombard tonne...@bsdprojects.net
To: Stanislav Sinyagin ssinya...@yahoo.com
Cc: swi...@swinog.ch
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:20:25 PM
Subject: Re: [swinog] IPV6 Go (lazy providers
well, the Docsis 3.0 CMTS hardware is quite expensive,
if not saying dramatically expensive.
Then, the Docsis provisioning software is also quite expensive,
and I haven't heard of any free ipv6 upgrade from any of the software vendors...
then come the modems... well, probably some of them
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