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Am Mittwoch, 4. August 2004 01:53 schrieb Daniel Lorch:
Hi
SPF provides a mechanism of designating valid outbound smtp servers for a
certain domain. This value is then matched against the Envelope-From
(Return-Path) of an e-mail (except for SA
Hi Ueli
what if you use the network-statements to match only the
desired interface?
The network statement will not suppress the OSPF hello
packets... It affects only, which prefixes from directly
connected interfaces will be injected into OSPF.
cheers,
michel
On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Daniel Lorch wrote:
SPF provides a mechanism of designating valid outbound smtp servers for a
certain domain. This value is then matched against the Envelope-From
(Return-Path) of an e-mail (except for SA 3.0, which also does HELO
header-checking, but that's non-standard and
Hi Michel
what if you use the network-statements to match only the
desired interface?
The network statement will not suppress the OSPF hello
packets... It affects only, which prefixes from directly
connected interfaces will be injected into OSPF.
This is correct, but it should also affect the
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 01:53:02AM +0200, Daniel Lorch wrote:
Hi
SPF provides a mechanism of designating valid outbound smtp servers for a
certain domain. This value is then matched against the Envelope-From
(Return-Path) of an e-mail (except for SA 3.0, which also does HELO
Hi,
NO. Microsoft has a patent pending on something like spf.
That's 'Sender-ID', not SPF. These are two different mechanisms.
Hopefully 'Sender-ID' will go into the trash soon and nobody
uses it.
Martin
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Hi
there is a bulk page for max 500 domains at a time:
http://spftools.infinitepenguins.net/register.php?action=multiple
I need to submit 501 domains, though. And the account creation didn't work. I
have contacted the author of this website but I'm still waiting for an
answer .
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SPF. Not convinced, yet?
NO. Microsoft has a patent pending on something like spf.
There are millions of pending patents pending out there which are never.
SPF or something (very) similar should become RFC (think this in the queue anyway) and
the patents discussion will be closed.
-Kurt.
Hi
Sure, one solution would be just to provide the records and not using it on
MTA side, but one day you should use it (IMHO asap) and you can't be sure
that all senders are providing it at this time.
Seems like a chicken-egg-problem...
Sort of. It's also called a positive feedback cycle. If
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 09:48:11AM +0200, Kurt A. Schumacher wrote:
SPF. Not convinced, yet?
NO. Microsoft has a patent pending on something like spf.
There are millions of pending patents pending out there which are never.
SPF or something (very) similar should become RFC (think
ok, here we are. Mr TAC said, passive-interface doesnt exist in OSPF while
running within a VRF. This is known and the engineers are planning to add
this feature (one day :-P), eh... He proposed as a workaround to use an ACL
to filter the OSPF multicast packets. In the mean time I've found
Hello Daniel
Daniel Lorch wrote:
The main reason, I guess, for slow SPF adaption is the fear of breaking
something. As a hosting-only-provider we were facing the additional problem
that many customers are not using our SMTP-server (even though they are
advised to do so) but their ISP's. Forcing
Arnold,
Joining with what Pascal says, yes, you can wash traffic when you have some Mbps, not if you have
1Gbps.. (this fill anyway your links before the washing machine which, I suppose, is somewhere
central located if you have many border routers).
And yes, we have blackholing communities
On 04.08.2004 12:04 Michele Marazza wrote:
Arnold,
Joining with what Pascal says, yes, you can wash traffic when you
have some Mbps, not if you have 1Gbps..
you can also wash traffic if it's 1Gbps.
Arnold
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Hi,
* Michele Marazza wrote:
Joining with what Pascal says, yes, you can wash traffic when you
have some Mbps, not if you have 1Gbps.. (this fill anyway your links
before the washing machine which, I suppose, is somewhere central
located if you have many border routers). And yes, we have
On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Tobias Orlamuende wrote:
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So what happens when I set up everything but the sender of an email which
should be accepted by one's MTA has no such record?
I could imagine that this happens now and for the next month in about more
than 90 percent of all mail which is received
This reminds me of a first year college database project!
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Subject: [swinog] PeeringDB.com - good initiative ...
Please register your
Michele Marazza wrote:
Joining with what Pascal says, yes, you can wash traffic when you have
some Mbps, not if you have 1Gbps.. (this fill anyway your links before
the washing machine which, I suppose, is somewhere central located if
you have many border routers).
Well, it depends on the
Neil J. McRae wrote:
This reminds me of a first year college database project!
The database design might be not too sophisticated, but the submitted
information should somehow be relevant, shouldn't it? Have a look at
AS8220 peering port speeds ;-)
F.
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wow!
65Gig!!!
Günti
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Guentensperger, Robert wrote:
wow!
65Gig!!!
I want those too? Neil, where could you get them ;-)
F.
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The database design might be not too sophisticated, but the
submitted information should somehow be relevant, shouldn't
it? Have a look at AS8220 peering port speeds ;-)
Relevance is subjective though.
Yes I entered those values. Peering port speeds are irrelevant.
What is more relevant
I want those too? Neil, where could you get them ;-) F.
You can buy ports from various vendors in a variety of
formats, 2x4x10G on the 7609, or several gige cards ;-)
Any 1st year engineering student could work it out!
Neil.
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Hi
there is a bulk page for max 500 domains at a time:
http://spftools.infinitepenguins.net/register.php?action=multiple
.ch is much better than .com. Scientific proof is available here:
http://spftools.infinitepenguins.net/register.php
My script is running since lunch. I'm only
Sunrise : Open Peering Policy ?
Robert, let's peer now !
Jerome
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Jerome,
Where? What? Why?
Open to all non-CH.
I knew that the day will come where the first sees this.
OK, it's changed now to selctive
Sorry, we have still the same policy.
But the
Hi
An other problem will arise if ISPs force there customers to use
there own SMTP relay server because they are blocking outbound
traffic to tcp/25. So this customers can not use the SMTP relay
server of there domain hosting provider with SMTP Auth (and
hopefully TLS) on tcp/25.
Valid
I see still to many problems with systems like SPF, to much work for
only a little advantage. Because if big domains like gmx or yahoo just
put 0.0.0.0/0
in the SPF DNS entry it is just useless.
gmx.net ist using
set querytype=TXT
gmx.net
Server: zeus.tschan.ch
Address: 212.103.66.131
Hi,
we plan to support SPF soon. Shure it's not perfect as long as the
majority of ISPs will not take part or the entries are just wrong or
very open. But that's only a question of time and critical mass. As
soon as this is reached, everybody not using it will be punished with
bad spam filter
Hi
As soon as this is reached, everybody not using it will be punished with
bad spam filter results and that's a selling point.
No no no, that's a misconception. I think already Tobias Orlamuende mentioned
this question. If the SPF record is missing, you'll simply do nothing. You're
not
Kuster, Christian wrote:
We are working very hard on it, some OSI layer 10 problems to fix ;-)
AKA Teppichetage.
Quoting from a recent SwiNOG message:
Michel Renfer wrote:
Bad things happens, when the carpet floor having their hands on
peering stuff.
Hopefully the situation with IP-Plus will
Dont ask for peering they will send a commercial to sell you transit :D
Cu,
Nico
Sunrise : Open Peering Policy ?
Robert, let's peer now !
Jerome
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Neil J. McRae
Envoye : mercredi, 4. aout 2004 13:47
A :
Hi
I guess you have only one (or maybe 2 or 3) mail server which
your customers can use to relay mails trough SMTP Auth. Now you
have in every domain you are hosting set up the SPF entry for the
IP of your mailserver. How do you proctect customer A to use
customer B's domain for sending
Hi
If the owner of the domain swinog.ch (only as example) [..]
Just as a sidenote: As per RFC2606 you're encouraged to use example.net,
example.org or example.com in these kind of situations:
http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2606.txt
Daniel
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If the owner of the domain swinog.ch (only as example) [..]
Just as a sidenote: As per RFC2606 you're encouraged to use
example.net, example.org or example.com in these kind of situations:
http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2606.txt
As this SPF thing has rather a lot to do with
Well, maybe our views are different or I expressed myself bad :-)
Receiving emails with missing SPF record will result in a higher
SPAM-rating in our own spam filter system and therefore protecting our
customer against spam.
As far as I know the following results will be passed on from our mail
On Wednesday 04 August 2004 16.29, Daniel Lorch wrote:
I guess you have only one (or maybe 2 or 3) mail server which
your customers can use to relay mails trough SMTP Auth. Now you
have in every domain you are hosting set up the SPF entry for the
IP of your mailserver. How do you proctect
As far as i know Easynet France is using such solutions .. We should
implement this next year too.
Cu,
Nico
On 04.08.2004 12:33 Neil J. McRae wrote:
agree with Arnold, and we've done close to 1G on
our anti DDOS platform here. To do it on a big network
does require money, time and effort but
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