Re: [Tagging] opening-hours off closed

2013-11-30 Thread Eckhart Wörner
Hi André, Am Samstag, 30. November 2013, 02:06:36 schrieb André Pirard: You wrote that off must not be defined but grasped and it really looks so. You keep using the word wrong instead of showing what is right. I told you both how off has to be interpreted and the reason why it has to be

[Tagging] Fwd: Re: Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=highway

2013-11-30 Thread bulwersator
In some places (for example Poland) there are available orthophotos covering entire country, usable by OSM mappers. In USA there are probably maps made by federal government and therefore available as public domain works.In most places local governments have very detailed maps that may be

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=highway

2013-11-30 Thread bulwersator
Tons of smaller polygons, city-sized megamultipolygons seems to sound like a bad idea (and with small ones result gets drawbacks of both idea). On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 08:18:53 -0800 cracklinrainlt;cra_klinr...@gmx.degt; wrote The next thing is: How will you applicate such a tagging?

Re: [Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

2013-11-30 Thread Jonathan
I agree the man_made tag is ludicrous, but we're stuck with that for the time being, changing that is a whole other thread. The two level tagging is what is currently defined for cameras that film public spaces, I was just suggesting a new value of webcam etc and the addition of a new key of

Re: [Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

2013-11-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/11/29 nounours kuessemondtaegl...@gmail.com completly agree that all cameras should share a common tagging! why? Can you expand on this? What have CCTV and a webcam in common? BUT: 1) man_made does not make any sense for a camera - ifnot, we should also tag highways, restaurants

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=highway

2013-11-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/11/30 bulwersator bulwersa...@zoho.com Tons of smaller polygons, city-sized megamultipolygons seems to sound like a bad idea (and with small ones result gets drawbacks of both idea). +1, there is no real disadvantage in using lots of small polygons, but there are a lot of advantages in

Re: [Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

2013-11-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
Jonathan bigfatfro...@gmail.com wrote: Why can we not have: man_made=surveillance surveillance:type=webcam surveillance:zone=weather;traffic;scenic. url=http:// The overarching category of man_made=surveillance is important because no matter what the intention of a webcam it

Re: [Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

2013-11-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/11/29 nounours kuessemondtaegl...@gmail.com completly agree that all cameras should share a common tagging! why? Can you expand on this? What have CCTV and a webcam in common? BUT: 1) man_made does not make any sense for

Re: [Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

2013-11-30 Thread Jonathan
I don't care if it's publicly available or not. Even if it is for the personal and private use of some person somewhere (makes it even more creepy). Surveillance is surveillance, doesn't matter why, where it goes and who has it. It should be tagged accordingly. Jonathan

Re: [Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

2013-11-30 Thread Egil Hjelmeland
On 29. nov. 2013 09:15, Martin Vonwald wrote: Hi! 2013/11/28 Egil Hjelmeland pri...@egil-hjelmeland.no mailto:pri...@egil-hjelmeland.no I still do not think man_made=surveillance is perfect. But I do not have huge problems with it as long as it is documented. If something is

Re: [Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

2013-11-30 Thread Jonathan
man_made is A tag for identifying man-made /(artificial)/ structures added to the landscape. taken from the Wiki. It's not just technical, and when you look at what is now included under this bizarre heading: adit, clearcut, monitoring_station, pier, snow_net, snow_fence, wastewater_plant,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-11-30 Thread Matthijs Melissen
For this discussion, it might be helpful to know what the Convention on Road Signs and Signals says about the blue round cycle sign: Sign D, 4 COMPULSORY CYCLE TRACK shall notify cyclists that the track at the entrance to which it is placed is reserved for them, and shall notify the drivers of

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Separate relations for each direction of US State highways.

2013-11-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 12:57 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: Peter, it would just be for the relations. It would stay the current status-quo for the ways using at all times the ref unsigned_ref tags (see I-394 example below). I can't wait until we can finally kill this

Re: [Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

2013-11-30 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 30.11.2013 um 18:40 schrieb Egil Hjelmeland pri...@egil-hjelmeland.no: contact:webcam=url is fine, that tell we have a webcam. Do we really need anything more to tell its a webcam? I think contact:webcam is nonsense, you can't contact someone via his webcam. Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-11-30 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 30.11.2013 um 21:25 schrieb Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl: Cyclists shall be required to use the track if the track is running along a carriageway, footpath or track for riders on horseback and leading into the same direction Again a confirmation (and leading into the same

Re: [Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

2013-11-30 Thread Jonathan
I agree, contact doesn't make sense. webcam:url=http://... is better Jonathan http://bigfatfrog67.me On 30/11/2013 23:44, Martin Koppenhöfer wrote: Am 30.11.2013 um 18:40 schrieb Egil Hjelmeland pri...@egil-hjelmeland.no: contact:webcam=url is fine, that tell we have a webcam. Do we

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-11-30 Thread Jonathan
You mean the cycle lane is only oneway and so bicycle=no on the road stops bikes both way? http://bigfatfrog67.me On 01/12/2013 00:15, Martin Koppenhöfer wrote: Am 30.11.2013 um 21:25 schrieb Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl: Cyclists shall be required to use the track if the

Re: [Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

2013-11-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
On 11/30/2013 11:22 AM, Jonathan wrote: I don't care if it's publicly available or not. Even if it is for the personal and private use of some person somewhere (makes it even more creepy). Surveillance is surveillance, doesn't matter why, where it goes and who has it. It should be tagged

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC 2 - Gambling

2013-11-30 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Based on your comments, I have created a new version of the proposal for gambling features. The proposal can be found here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Gambling The main difference with the previous version is that a distinction is now made between adult

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-11-30 Thread Paul Johnson
If that's the case, then bicycle:(forward|backward)=no would also be broken, which I'm not seeing in the proposal. As Mele can vouch for, I'm probably OSM's strongest bicycling advocate, and I can't see a strong use for adding another tag to a key on this one. On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:37 PM,