Re: [Tagging] landuse=grass = natural=grass

2014-09-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-09-18 11:44 GMT+02:00 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: I think the consensus is to stay as simple as possible and use only one tag to say that there is grass on this piece of land. I think the consensus is to describe any property you like in OSM. Using only one tag to summarize a lot of

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are named

2014-09-19 Thread johnw
On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:59 AM, Lukas Sommer sommer...@gmail.com wrote: * Here, I still do not see your point. What would you gain in doing so? You have more tags, which means more work. But can you do anything that you can not do with the current, yet existing tagging? Differentiated tagging

[Tagging] University accommodation (was Re: Future proposal - RFC - amenity=dormitory)

2014-09-19 Thread Dan S
Hi all, I have been fixing some university tagging (Sheffield contained hundreds of amenity=university!). For student accommodation, I have been using for buildings: building=residential + residential=university + operator=* OR for sites: landuse=residential +

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are named

2014-09-19 Thread Lukas Sommer
Differentiated tagging is needed for differentiated rendering. junction vs Signal. a single signal icon needs to be rendered in Japan for intersections. But that is yet working perfectly with the current tagging! In Korea, we have yet thousands of nodes with junction=yes and name=*, and

Re: [Tagging] University accommodation (was Re: Future proposal - RFC - amenity=dormitory)

2014-09-19 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 19.09.2014 14:22 Dan S wrote: for buildings: building=residential + residential=university + operator=* OR for sites: landuse=residential + residential=university + operator=* Note that the same scheme seems to me to work well for building and for landuse. I thought

Re: [Tagging] University accommodation (was Re: Future proposal - RFC - amenity=dormitory)

2014-09-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-09-19 14:22 GMT+02:00 Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com: for buildings: building=residential + residential=university + operator=* OR for sites: landuse=residential + residential=university + operator=* Note that the same scheme seems to me to work well for building and for

Re: [Tagging] The not-shops: industrial, industry, or business

2014-09-19 Thread Michał Brzozowski
I'm surprised nobody so far mentioned Mapbox's Maki icon set: https://www.mapbox.com/maki/ Another thing maps based on OSM lack is clickability (like Google Maps or Bing Maps). It's less CPU intensive than placing markers afterwards. Maybe there's some clever way to embed clickable spots

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are named

2014-09-19 Thread Lukas Sommer
Again, I do not see the point in introducing here a new tag. Using the existing junction=yes in Korea and the existing highway=traffic_signals in Japan – just not only on nodes but extending it also also on closed ways (=areas) – should be fine. Okay, here I have to correct myself. It may be

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are named

2014-09-19 Thread Lukas Sommer
Some random thoughts about names for the area tags: junction=yes on nodes For areas: – something that contains “junction” and “area” – junction=area ? highway=traffic_signals on nodes For areas: – something that contains “traffic signal system” (also “system”!) and also “area” – maybe not

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are named

2014-09-19 Thread Lukas Sommer
After thinking more about the tag name question: It may be useful to use for the complex situation at least the same key as for their conterpart in simple situations. This is intuitive (usability), and at the same time the tags for the simple and for the complex situation are mutually exclusive,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are named

2014-09-19 Thread johnw
I don't know much about how the rendering system parses the tags. I thought t would be non-trivial for it to work out how to display signal icons without a new tag, so I thought a new tag might be necessary, and gave my suggestion. I'm aware the current system is in use a lot for simple 1

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are named

2014-09-19 Thread johnw
On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Lukas Sommer sommer...@gmail.com wrote: After thinking more about the tag name question: It may be useful to use for the complex situation at least the same key as for their conterpart in simple situations. This is intuitive (usability), and at the same time the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are named

2014-09-19 Thread John Baker
Yeah sadly it is fairly complex to display different icons in different locations. Not something we will doing in OSM carto for a good while. From: jo...@mac.com Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 07:07:56 +0900 To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tagging for

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are named

2014-09-19 Thread johnw
So the solution for a complex intersection is to have a signal_area area with an outline that intersects with all the nodes where the signal would affect the traffic? This would let the renderer use one icon, and still have the ways marked in the proper spot for the intersection, right?