Re: [Tagging] Rural Alley?

2015-07-08 Thread Andrew Errington
Oh, and it's not really an alley, so I wouldn't tag it as such. A On 08/07/2015, Andrew Errington erringt...@gmail.com wrote: We have something similar in Korea. I have been using (and recommending) highway=service. They're not really tracks, as they are proper roads, with a concrete or

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Wedding Reception

2015-07-08 Thread Warin
On 8/07/2015 8:49 PM, Warin wrote: On 8/07/2015 5:27 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-07-08 1:54 GMT+02:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com: Voting for this 'property' is now open. Wedding Reception Definition: A place where a social event is held

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Wedding Reception

2015-07-08 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-07-08 01:54, Warin wrote : Hi Voting for this 'property' is now open. Wedding Reception Definition: A place where a social event is held after the completion of a wedding ceremony. Note that it is a

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Wedding Reception

2015-07-08 Thread Marc Gemis
The normal, abridged form is: park=yes reception:wedding=yes (because park:... is implicit) as well as park=yes leisure=yes or park=leisure since when is either park=yes or park=leisure the accepted way of tagging a park ? It's leisure=park. If you want to propose a different way of

Re: [Tagging] Rural Alley?

2015-07-08 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 08/07/2015, johnw jo...@mac.com wrote: https://www.google.com/maps/@36.431238,139.246753,3a,78y,233.04h,65.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqk2OIIDRfkCjb8uqWNbkhw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 To me this (along with the description) is highway=track tracktype=grade1. You can add surface, lanes, maxspeed,

Re: [Tagging] Rural Alley?

2015-07-08 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/8/2015 2:44 AM, Andrew Errington wrote: They're not really tracks, as they are proper roads, with a concrete or tarmac surface, But, they don't really go anywhere. Tracks can be paved - tracktype=grade1 normally is paved, or is built to equivalent quality.

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Wedding Reception

2015-07-08 Thread Warin
On 8/07/2015 5:27 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-07-08 1:54 GMT+02:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com: Voting for this 'property' is now open. Wedding Reception Definition: A place where a social event is held after the completion of a wedding

Re: [Tagging] Rural Alley?

2015-07-08 Thread Andrew Errington
I agree, but I based my choice on the description in the wiki. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dservice On 08/07/2015, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: On 7/8/2015 2:44 AM, Andrew Errington wrote: They're not really tracks, as they are proper roads, with a concrete or tarmac

[Tagging] Rural Alley?

2015-07-08 Thread johnw
I live in Japan, where most of the flat land is covered in extremely mixed use cities and farm fields. Being an old asian country, there are tons and tons of old windy local roads that go everywhere, and being a first wold country, also a modern roadway system meant for cars. The modern roadway

Re: [Tagging] Rural Alley?

2015-07-08 Thread Andrew Errington
We have something similar in Korea. I have been using (and recommending) highway=service. They're not really tracks, as they are proper roads, with a concrete or tarmac surface, But, they don't really go anywhere. I change the tags when the road actually becomes a track (two lines of worn dirt

Re: [Tagging] Rural Alley?

2015-07-08 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/8/2015 1:25 AM, johnw wrote: [trimmed] The issue is that these “small windy roads that go everywhere” go nowhere. the land they access is for farming the subdivided sections ... lead you on a tour of the local rice plots and hills. it is basically access for the farmers, which then have

Re: [Tagging] Rural Alley?

2015-07-08 Thread johnw
We have something similar in Korea. I have been using (and recommending) highway=service. I can get behind that. On Jul 8, 2015, at 6:54 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Tracks can be paved - tracktype=grade1 normally is paved, or is built to equivalent quality. This is vey

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Wedding Reception

2015-07-08 Thread Warin
On 8/07/2015 10:33 PM, André Pirard wrote: On 2015-07-08 01:54, Warin wrote : Hi Voting for this 'property' is now open. Wedding Reception Definition: A place where a social event is held after the completion of a wedding ceremony. Note that it is a 'property' rather than a key:value (what

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Wedding Reception

2015-07-08 Thread John Eldredge
The social event is the wedding reception, not the location in which the event is held. You are the only person I have ever heard to refer to the location, rather than the event, as a wedding reception. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Wedding Reception

2015-07-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 08.07.2015 um 15:58 schrieb Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: But park is an object. Unfortunately OSM mixes objects and functions in various ways that are not consistent. not sure why park should be an object and not a function. How can you distinguish objects

Re: [Tagging] Rural Alley?

2015-07-08 Thread John Willis
Then why did they keep track+level1+paved at all? It's like calling it a motorway level 9. Its shoehorned into somewhere it doesn't belong. These roads may have a similar purpose - local access - but the grade of the road is completely out of the category I would ever call a track. There are

Re: [Tagging] Rural Alley?

2015-07-08 Thread John Eldredge
I have seen some people insist that highway=track only be used if the landuse Is farmland, but not if the land is covered by bushes or trees because no cultivation is taking place. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Wedding Reception

2015-07-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-07-08 1:54 GMT+02:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: Voting for this 'property' is now open. Wedding Reception Definition: A place where a social event is held after the completion of a wedding ceremony. Note that it is a 'property' rather than a key:value (what I call a sub tag). It may

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Wedding Reception

2015-07-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 09.07.2015 um 00:54 schrieb Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: A Park is an object.. it has a physical existence, it can be used in various ways, for leisure and/or sport. isn't it the function as a park, that lets you do sports or leisure activities? When the same

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Wedding Reception

2015-07-08 Thread Warin
On 9/07/2015 1:13 AM, John Eldredge wrote: The social event is the wedding reception, not the location in which the event is held. You are the only person I have ever heard to refer to the location, rather than the event, as a wedding reception. Good point. On a map (such as OSM) locations

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Wedding Reception

2015-07-08 Thread Warin
On 9/07/2015 1:57 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 08.07.2015 um 15:58 schrieb Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: But park is an object. Unfortunately OSM mixes objects and functions in various ways that are not consistent. not sure why park should be an object and not a

Re: [Tagging] Rural Alley?

2015-07-08 Thread John Willis
Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: very rough construction Most of these are in very good condition, comparable to the residential or unclassified roads. They are well made and well maintained, besides the summer overgrowth that grows too

Re: [Tagging] Rural Alley?

2015-07-08 Thread John Willis
Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2015, at 6:03 AM, John Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: I have seen some people insist that highway=track only be used if the landuse Is farmland, but not if the land is covered by bushes or trees because no cultivation is taking place. That is weird as

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Wedding Reception

2015-07-08 Thread Warin
On 9/07/2015 9:28 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 09.07.2015 um 00:54 schrieb Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: A Park is an object.. it has a physical existence, it can be used in various ways, for leisure and/or sport. isn't it the function as a park, You now talk of

Re: [Tagging] Rural Alley?

2015-07-08 Thread Andrew Errington
I looked at that street view. To me, the way ahead (slightly to the left) is highway=track. The roads to the left, right and behind are highway=service. A On 8 July 2015 at 19:27, johnw jo...@mac.com wrote: We have something similar in Korea. I have been using (and recommending)

Re: [Tagging] Rural Alley?

2015-07-08 Thread John Willis
Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2015, at 10:23 AM, Andrew Errington erringt...@gmail.com wrote: highway=track Yes, it is where a grade 3(?) track meets the service roads. ^_^ Javbw ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Rural Alley?

2015-07-08 Thread Warin
On 9/07/2015 7:03 AM, John Willis wrote: Then why did they keep track+level1+paved at all? It's like calling it a motorway level 9. Its shoehorned into somewhere it doesn't belong. These roads may have a similar purpose - local access - but the grade of the road is completely out of the