Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

Thanks! Once again, would =lifeboat_station cover them? Thanks Graeme On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 at 16:38, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Fixed link on it. > > By looking at https://mopr.com.pl/stacje-i-ratownicy/ there are two that > are definitely > serious inla

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

fire_station - > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/392193354 - but perhaps some kind of > "water rescue" tag is more appropriate. > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 4:41 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> Thanks, but are they usually found inland? >> >> I found a fe

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

Thanks, but are they usually found inland? I found a few rescue / lifeboat stations along the Polish coast, but only one mapped inland, which either doesn't exist anymore, or it's website has changed? https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/254564700 https://mopr.com.pl/1-nasza-stacja/stacje-i-ratowni

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

Looking at some of the "inland" examples shown on OT, I wonder if they should actually be tagged as a "lifeboat-station" at all, or whether they would be better shown as a lifeguard base? Examples, with some websites included: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/299123258 + https://www.wasserwacht-w

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 at 08:07, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > Not really. emergency=lifeboat_station implies the presence of a boat. > Not all water rescue > related infrastructure has a boat, and not all is located directly at the > coast line or river bank. > "marine" implies salt water. > Yes, marine

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 at 20:03, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > What about such stations on freshwater lakes and on rivers? Is "marine" > fitting there? > That one's easily covered by definition, as in the original marine-rescue proposal: "the base areas or bui

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Street vendors

Another version of sort of a street-vendor that I was wondering about is mobile food vans. They drive into a site (building site, warehouse complex etc) at morning tea time, blow their horn, stay for 15-20 minutes, then leave & come back at lunch time. Are they a street vendor? Thanks Graeme

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 at 09:30, Jmapb wrote: > "Lifeboat" is an ambiguous term -- it even has a disambiguation page on > Wikipedia which lists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifeboat_(shipboard) > ahead of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifeboat_(rescue) . > Yes, that is a possibility, although =lif

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 at 19:08, Illia Marchenko wrote: > One tag is enough. I prefer emergency=lifeboat_station because > "emergency" is a narrower key. > Thanks, Illia. I definitely agree that it should be emergency=, rather than amenity=. I must also admit to a slight personal preference for =m

[Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

Some time ago, I raised a proposal for Marine Rescue stations: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Marine_rescue. After a few weeks, I returned it to draft status, pending the resolution of the Military Bases proposal which was also going through at that time, but despite that, it

Re: [Tagging] Apparently bubblers emitting jet of water on buton press are water taps

On Fri, 28 Oct 2022 at 18:23, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > you’ll have to wait a long time until the water becomes cold and can be > drunken. > That one is a comment that stood out to me? Is the water in your "drinking fountains" chilled, or is it just the natural temperature of the water comin

Re: [Tagging] Window tinting?

Just created https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dwindow_tinting As always, all comments are welcome. Thanks Graeme PS & apparently just made my 1000th edit to the Wiki! On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 at 14:46, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > > Oct 21,

Re: [Tagging] Window tinting?

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 at 05:58, Andy Townsend wrote: > There are a few dozen examples in taginfo: > > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=tinting#values > > I'd pick one of those examples. > Thanks, Andy! I tried searching for that & couldn't find anything? Must have been doing something w

Re: [Tagging] improve the proposal procedure

On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 at 23:58, Casper Kersten wrote > All this said, I do appreciate good quality proposals and constructive > discussions. I'm happy with all these creative proposals that are being put > forward. > As do I, but I get a bit concerned when RFCs / proposals are raised for discussio

[Tagging] Window tinting?

How do you tag businesses doing window tinting for either cars or building windows? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_film Some of the options seem to be shop=window_blind or craft=sun_protection but neither of them excite me! https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dwindow_blind https:/

Re: [Tagging] RFC - More sensible values for fountain=*

On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 at 20:10, Davidoskky via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > I don't think the wall is so important frankly, but let's assume we agree > on that. > > This fountain has the wall and thus is decorative and is amenity=fountain. > > > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Historic

On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 at 17:42, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > are all military tags about current use by the military, or maybe they can > also be used for military installations that aren’t used currently? Is a > military base that is now abandoned still a military base? Or a bunker?What > are th

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Historic

On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 23:28, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > Maybe there would be value in deapproving historic=battlefield > I would love to be able to move the vast majority of military= to historic=military, as they are no longer military installations.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water outlet

On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 01:15, Marc_marc wrote: > > Standardization is a good thing for quality but it is often a difficult > exercise, especially when the previous tags mix several pieces of > information into one, as is the case here > Especially when you consider that we now have at least 7 co

Re: [Tagging] RFC - More sensible values for fountain=*

On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 19:19, Davidoskky via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > Would simply style work? > Don't think it really needs anything more than you said earlier: amenity=fountain + fountain=decorative / utility / drinking should cover it? Thanks Graeme _

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 10:12, stevea wrote: > Yes, I'm glad to hear this: somebody refusing a 500€ bill / invoice with > a 500€ note would simply make me leave the note on the table (counter, hand > of the proprietor, if s/he let me...) and walk away, my obligation to > remunerate fully and lega

Re: [Tagging] Apparently bubblers emitting jet of water on buton press are water taps

On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 10:13, stevea wrote: > > > replace man_made=water_tap with tap=yes and I subscribe. Also remove the > redundant drinking_water=yes, it is implied by amenity=drinking_water > > This makes a lot of sense; +1. > Yep! Thanks Graeme ___

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

What do they say about great minds, Steve? :-) Thanks Graeme On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 16:43, stevea wrote: > On Oct 8, 2022, at 11:31 PM, stevea wrote: > > Yes, taps CAN be drinking water, but not necessarily are. For example, > a hose_bib on a residence's "backyard porch" might be designed to

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 16:36, stevea wrote: > > > Disagree, some are are the same feature .. taps can be drinking water .. > or 'not suitable for drinking' (legal CYA?), 'recommend you boil' (more > CYA?), and 'not suitable for drinking' (you really would not drink this > stuff, just look and smel

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

On Sat, 8 Oct 2022 at 16:04, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > As for the pipe ... does it have a tap, or does it flow constantly? Bore > water? Spring water? > Sorry, forgot about this one. One camping ground that I'm thinking of, that we visit frequently, water is pumped from the creek to

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

Wondering if one solution for continually running "fountain" vs a start / stop tap, would be a simple ? Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

On Thu, 6 Oct 2022 at 22:00, Davidoskky via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > With all these tags, there is still no way to properly describe a place > with a pipe that provides water which is not drinkable and not decorative. > Throwing another one into the mix - taps in camp groun

Re: [Tagging] Better term for unisex

gender=any? Thanks Graeme On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 21:21, martianfreeloader wrote: > In the discussion of the Gender proposal, I noted that I find it strange > to use the term "unisex" for "gender-neutral" or "all-gender" (as sex > and gender are different properties). > > Proposal: https://wiki

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

On Tue, 4 Oct 2022 at 22:51, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > Can we mark it as deprecated and recommend not using it? > Yep, I'd be happy with that. On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 04:59, Jass Kurn wrote: > > I've just noticed there is a bubbler tag being promoted?

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 19:01, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > or reply to this posting with link of freely licensed image, preferably > already > uploaded to Wikimedia Commons > How about this one, although it is more of a fountain than a tap. https://commons

Re: [Tagging] Is it man_made=water_tap?

On Sun, 2 Oct 2022 at 10:05, Davidoskky via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > >> I'll add to this list all those taps that can be activated without a > direct manipulation of an object, such as passing your hand in front of a > light ray which causes the water to start flowing. > > T

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 09:37, stevea wrote: > I haven't heard a wider chime-in to my emphasis on "potable" (drinkable, > if you prefer) but I think many of us mean that with a water_tap, even if > we don't say it, I think we should. > I'm not sure if we should define that all taps are automatical

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 09:32, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > I would not expect https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Bubbler.jpg > to be a water tap, but I am not a native speaker. > Yes, quite definitely a water tap! How you would then distinguish > ht

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 09:01, Mike Thompson wrote: > > Agree it should be deleted or at least modified. > On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 09:19, stevea wrote: > I'll go this: "A water tap is a human-made construction providing access > to potable water" and leave out "supplied by centralized water distr

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

Two more questions re the wiki. " A water tap is a man-made construction providing access to water, *supplied by centralized water distribution system*" - how about taps connected to rain-water tanks? That part of that sentence should be deleted. & " Note that fountain

Re: [Tagging] Is it man_made=water_tap?

On Fri, 30 Sept 2022 at 18:29, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > I would not tag a bubbler as a tap. > These were the bubblers that we grew up with at school https://victoriancollections.net.au/media/collectors/57a00a4fd0cdd1210422a51e/items/59b460bc21ea6705f4784c26/item-media/59b460db21ea67

Re: [Tagging] Is this continouos flow a water tap?

On Wed, 28 Sept 2022 at 03:03, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > Is > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Beim_Kiosk_(Anlagage_Sihlh%C3%B6lzli).jpg > man_made=water_tap > or > man_made=drinking_fountain > > Personally, I would call that one a decorative fo

Re: [Tagging] Is it man_made=water_tap?

I would say that regardless of how it's operated - turn handle, push button, lever, foot pedal, auto sensor etc - that if water comes out, it's a tap! Thanks Graeme On Tue, 27 Sept 2022 at 23:20, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > > Sep 27, 2022, 14:58 by d

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Training

On Tue, 27 Sept 2022 at 02:10, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > What about universities where future sailors/pilots are training > (often these are military schools). > They should then be under military=base + base_function=training Thanks Graeme __

Re: [Tagging] addr:town

In Australia, we encourage mappers not to use the town/city, State, or postcode fields at all when entering addresses! All they need to enter is the unit number (if applicable & known), street number & street name. Thanks Graeme On Sun, 25 Sept 2022 at 18:40, Andrew Hain wrote: > Clearly map

Re: [Tagging] Definition of lake/pond as applied to stream/plunge pools

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 at 15:14, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > "I'd like to swim in a small pool with a waterfall". > Good spot for one of your hazard tags! We have Natural Bridge nearby https://www.queensland.com/au/en/things-to-do/attractions/p-56b25f942880253d74c479de-natural-bridge-springbrook

Re: [Tagging] Definition of lake/pond as applied to stream/plunge pools

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 at 09:00, Kevin Kenny wrote: > On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 1:25 PM Paul Allen wrote: > > I've had one German solemnly assure me that anything labeled a 'creek' in > English is a minor watercourse, and challenge why I was mapping a riverbank > for Schoharie Creek. > Thanks, Kevin

Re: [Tagging] Definition of lake/pond as applied to stream/plunge pools

On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 01:49, Paul Allen wrote: > > I suggest that, when we get around to looking at pools, we consider > the possibility of adding other angling considerations > Carrying on from those, there are other named river features such as Bend & Reach, which we currently have no way of

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

Thanks Graeme On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 16:44, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > OSMF board is not spending hours on monitoring wiki pages. > > I am spending hours on monitoring wiki pages and noticed it only recently, > and only in a new proposal. > > Anyone ma

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 10:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > imagine you were mapping something, and it is legal in the place where you > are, but illegal in Britain, so you can not do it. Or you are seeing things > in country A and when you’re in country B you add them to OpenStreetMap > (from m

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Rescue Stations

Just to make sure everybody is aware, voting is now open on the https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Rescue_Stations proposal. Any questions or comments are still welcome, either here, the original Proposal thread ( https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2020-December/0

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Emergency=Rescue Stations

ure Name)" to the list. > > Many people might not be reading every email in the RFC thread, but do > want to know when voting is open, so a new thread makes it more visible. > > On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 14:33, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> >> >> >>

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 09:35, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > is this referring to British law? > Not that I'm aware of (or Australian for that matter!), but I have seen comments on various pages that it is illegal for people in both Israel & Russia to map the location of military bases, &, of co

Re: [Tagging] sport=shooting_range vs sport=shooting + leisure=pitch

On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 09:32, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > its presence does not even tell in every case that you can exercise the > sport at an object with this tag. E.g. > shop=sports > sport=surfing > What would you suggest then for a shop that sells surfboards eg https://www.google.com.au/ma

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

There has been concern raised on the talk page over the "If it's illegal, please don't map" warning that I included in the proposal. I put it there due to that issue being mentioned on several military related pages, but also noticed that there are a few different wording of it eg {{Key|military}}

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Emergency=Rescue Stations

On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 19:01, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > On 20. Dec 2020, at 05:43, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > The existing emergency <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:emergency> > =disaster_response > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Emergency=Rescue Stations

On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 17:55, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > How objects tagged now with amenity=lifeboat_station should be tagged > after this proposal passes? > They were a late addition after somebody pointed out that they exist. They would be replaced by

Re: [Tagging] Continuous shoulder rumble strips (CSRS)

On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 02:24, Seth Deegan wrote: > Those are known as rumble strips. > > The wiki has traffic_calming=rumble_strip: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_calming#Common_values > But the description for rumble strip on that page also says "Do not confuse with longitudi

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Military=Coast-Guard & Rescue=Marine_Rescue

Following discussions, voting has been postponed until the military=bases proposal is decided, so this has been returned to Under Way only. Thanks Graeme On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 13:26, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 12:21, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Emergency=Rescue Stations

On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 13:50, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > The text of the proposal is still confusing. > Sorry about that - maybe it should have been broken into 2 separate things? Is the tag emergency=rescue_stations being proposed? > Currently the Emergency page has the heading "Other Stations

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Emergency=Rescue Stations

On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 12:18, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rescue_Stations > Moved to voting. If you still have any comments or concerns, please raise them for discussion, rather than just voting "No, because ..."!

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Military=Coast-Guard & Rescue=Marine_Rescue

On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 12:21, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Marine_rescue > Voting is now open. If you still have any comments or concern, please raise them for discussion, rather than just voting "No, because ...&quo

Re: [Tagging] sport=shooting_range vs sport=shooting + leisure=pitch

On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 09:44, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > for a price: > You're not wrong! Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] sport=shooting_range vs sport=shooting + leisure=pitch

On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 09:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > I have seen some shooting=range but the tag does not make too much sense > for tagging a shooting range facility. > Yes, it does actually, because shooters go to a range to shoot. We have sport=shooting and the physical nature of the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 09:32, Paul Allen wrote: > It calls them speed bumps. > Yep, it seems like these are just a variety of speed bump https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_calming & =bump. The existing definition is more or less OK in that it includes Thanks Graeme __

Re: [Tagging] sport=shooting_range vs sport=shooting + leisure=pitch

On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 08:59, Jeremy Harris wrote: > > I think rifle-shooting was a component of a triathlon in a recent > Winter Olympic, too. > Winter Olympics has the Biathlon - cross-country skiing & very accurate shooting, while the Summer Olympics has several different shooting events incl

Re: [Tagging] sport=shooting_range vs sport=shooting + leisure=pitch

On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 08:48, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > The leisure key is generally silly, because we assign these tags also to > sports facilities for professional sports people, but for shooting ranges > it seems even less appropriate to add them under leisure when the operator > is the m

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 02:00, St Niklaas wrote: > > Your text or proposal seems to be focused on modern times. > Yes, that's right, as it's intended for current, active, military establishments only. Since every town (vesting) or fortress (fort) has its own barracks in the > past > Yes, but

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 03:59, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > when the term is military „base“ I would guess it will always be intended > for more than a few weeks? Yes, that's right. Even if the label is „temporary“ it probably means years and not days? > Usually several months, at the very

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

Thanks for those edits, Joseph. They make things a little neater! Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 at 20:10, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > there are quite different kinds of bases, some are “permanent” and may be > in the home country of the military, others may be in “allied“ nations, > with contractual or defacto relationships, and there may be also those in > conflict a

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

e the military=base tag added. > > How should military=base be defined? > > -- Joseph Eisenberg > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 2:44 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 10:19, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> > >&

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 10:19, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > I have just posted a new proposal re Military Bases: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Military_bases > This proposal is also getting close to voting. Precis: *deprecate*: - milita

Re: [Tagging] Rapids (whitewater) on rivers

On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 at 02:33, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Another argument against use of hazard=* for rapids is that the hazard key > has been used almost always with highway=* features, not waterways. > Here are some examples of tags as "waterway feature" + type=hazard https://www.openstreetmap.

Re: [Tagging] The saga of landuse=reservoir vs water=reservoir

On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 12:43, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > That example certainly looks like a landuse=basin or water=basin feature > with basin=retention > Maybe? But there's an awful lot of them tagged as reservoirs! Thanks Graeme > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 6:23 P

Re: [Tagging] The saga of landuse=reservoir vs water=reservoir

I should have added ... So really, they're not "natural" in any way (except for the water in them!, & even that is frequently pumped in). Thanks Graeme On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 12:20, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > In an Australian context, the most common are known

Re: [Tagging] The saga of landuse=reservoir vs water=reservoir

In an Australian context, the most common are known as Turkey's Nest dams, because they're mounded up above the ground eg https://c8.alamy.com/comp/A6T7R0/turkey-nest-dam-on-outback-cattle-station-queensland-australia-A6T7R0.jpg For a full explanation: https://www.agric.wa.gov.au/water-management/

Re: [Tagging] Rapids (whitewater) on rivers --> Hazards

On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 11:24, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > > > Thanks for the comments! For the specific linked case (winding road for > 74(!) miles), it seems that is already covered in the proposal - > hazard=curves and its sub-tags cover this, and if it truly is 74 > consecutive miles, that

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Emergency=Rescue Stations

On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 14:51, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > Personally I'd usually try to add the operator and operator:wikidata tags > in combination to give more context. > Thanks - I never think of wikidata tags as I don't usually use them. Added Graeme __

Re: [Tagging] The saga of landuse=reservoir vs water=reservoir

On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 09:32, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > > Would this be satisfactory to the group in resolving the question of > reservoir tagging? > Good idea to bring it up, but not sure it will resolve anything once & for all? Thanks Graeme __

Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 23:55, Paul Allen wrote: > > 1) Holiday cottages are rarely building=cabin, they are mostly > building=house. > May depend on where you are? I know of a number of places that advertise cottages / cabins eg http://lyrebirdspringbrook.com/index.html One around the corner fr

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Military=Coast-Guard & Rescue=Marine_Rescue

Thanks Graeme On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 12:21, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Please visit https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Marine_rescue & have a > look. > This proposal (which is partly linked to both the Rescue Services & Military Bases proposals) is also close to movin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Emergency=Rescue Stations

On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 12:18, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Please visit https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rescue_Stations & have a > look. > Reminder that voting is close to opening on this proposal. *Precis:* Amend the heading emergency=other_stations to emergency=re

Re: [Tagging] Changes to clarify the Hazards proposal during the vote

Thanks Brian. As far as I am concerned, those changes are fine. Graeme On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 10:53, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > Hello, > > I recently received late feedback on the hazards proposal. Based on the > feedback, I felt it was necessary to make small changes to this proposal. >

Re: [Tagging] How to put a name tag on an area with more than one type?

On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 21:41, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > What I don't like in OSM is naming for large geographic areas, Thanks for the explanation, Frederik, but I'd like to make a couple of points like "the Alps", "the Black Forest", or "the Bay of Biscay", for two > reasons: > > First, there c

Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 21:28, Paul Allen wrote: > I can't think of an English term, other than "holiday cottages." These > places > generally call themselves "Foo Holiday Cottages" or "Foo Holidays" or > "Foo Farm Cottages" or things like that. > I'm with Paul for Holiday Cottages. How about t

Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 16:22, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > Tagging 25 tourism=chalet independently is sill when they form > single object, not 25 separate ones. > Are they cottages number 1 - 25 on the same camp site, or individual chalets located close to

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 at 19:17, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > fully spelt out > Noted. Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - crossing=priority

On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 06:37, stevea wrote: > This is problematic to my thinking. In California (my state), at an > UNCONTROLLED intersection (no traffic_signal, stop sign, other traffic > control device...), for example where the sidewalk "would continue to > another sidewalk on the other side

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 at 12:14, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Break - I've just found that there actually are a handful of > club=army_cadets (8), =air_cadets (5) & =sea_cadets (2) already in use, > although all are undocumented, so they will be fine. > Seeing that

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 at 19:30, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Which military service are the Italian Carabinieri? The US Marines? > What about the Guardia di Finanza? > Yep, as mentioned previously, there will be a number of fine, fuzzy lines (& yes, both words apply!) to sort out, mainly between "

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 at 08:06, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > do we really need military_service=army given that these services will > differ according to the country? We can tag operator =United States Army or > “United States Marine Corps” and keep lists in the wiki for standardized > names of t

Re: [Tagging] How to put a name tag on an area with more than one type?

hanks Graeme On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 at 08:44, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Does each bog & marsh have it's own name, or are just different surfaces > inside one big named wetland? > > Thanks > > Graeme > > PS & please don't get frustrated & give up on tryin

Re: [Tagging] How to put a name tag on an area with more than one type?

Does each bog & marsh have it's own name, or are just different surfaces inside one big named wetland? Thanks Graeme PS & please don't get frustrated & give up on trying to make progress! On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 at 02:11, Anders Torger wrote: > Hello, > > I was on this list a while back expressi

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 at 11:42, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > > Yes, this makes sense in broad strokes, though some thought is needed as > to the exact set of keys and values would be needed to describe these > things. > Indeed! But we've still got another 10 - 12 days of RFC, so lo's of time :-)

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 at 07:41, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > >> Services often cross functions; for example, the US Army operates air >>> fields[2]. Tagging this military_service=army would be accurate, but would >>> not convey that this is an air force base, but not an Air Force base. >>> >>> To

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 17:28, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > There are, in fact, military offices which are not within a > landuse=military area, and there are military=danger_area features which > are not in landuse=military > Offices not on base are possible, but will usually only be recruiting o

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

Once again, thanks everybody for your thoughts & comments! This is great, please keep them coming! On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 17:28, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > I agree, and this can be easily fixed by changing the key to describe what > we are actually specifying: "What military service branch is u

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Hazards - 2 Week Update & RFC Summary

On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 23:37, Paul Allen wrote: > > Kevin Kenny argued (I think convincingly) that the hazard is fallen, not > falling, rocks. There is a very slight risk that a rock will fall on your > vehicle but the greater risk, by far, is that you will drive into a fallen > rock. > But not

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

I've now incorporated all (I think?) the comments from the talk page into the proposal, if you'd like to check the wording? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Military_bases Thanks Graeme On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 09:32, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > On Wed,

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 08:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > military bases might house intelligence facilities which are known and > could be tagged. > They could, if you can identify them, but as mentioned above, should we be? Thanks Graeme ___ Tagg

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 17:13, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > This is an interesting idea. > > But the current proposal only provides a way to tag the military service > branch of a military=base feature (which is usually also landuse=military). > > It might be better if there were a way to tag the bran

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

Brian came up with a suggestion that bases also be tagged with an appropriate admin level (2 / 4) to show at which level of Government they are controlled. Just wondering - I know that the US has State controlled forces eg National Guard, but are there any / many other countries that have forces c

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 10:33, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > I fixed that for you, it should just be status=proposed, and the template > does the rest of the magic! > Thanks, Brian! Another one to lock away in memory :-) Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mail

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - RFC - Military Bases

On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 10:19, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > I have just posted a new proposal re Military Bases: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Military_bases > But when I look at it, it's saying it's in Inactive status so not sure what I'

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