Why is this a property of the dock,
rather than a property of the water body.
What's wrong with floating vs. fixed?
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Depending on the country, state, area the address does not necessarily refer
to the building.
In Australia the address refers to the property ie the plot of ground that is
defined by the cadastral plan.
So those plots of ground may be 600 sq m or 1,000,000 hectares and may have
On 29/05/2015 08:41, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
Why is this a property of the dock,
rather than a property of the water body.
A dock is a body of water. It may or may not be separated from a
connecting river or sea by a lock or single gate.
What's wrong with floating vs. fixed?
What do you
On 29 May 2015 at 09:18, Malcolm Herring malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com
wrote:
On 29/05/2015 08:41, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
Why is this a property of the dock,
rather than a property of the water body.
A dock is a body of water. It may or may not be separated from a
connecting river or sea
On 29 May 2015 at 08:41, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:
Why is this a property of the dock,
rather than a property of the water body.
What's wrong with floating vs. fixed?
Some docks are gated and some are not. Same gate could be used as per lock
gate. Same function.
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That's a circular definition. What is the actual difference between the
two types of address, in your model?
On 2015-05-29 02:27, pmailkeey . wrote:
On 28 May 2015 at 08:24, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
Mike, what's a node address and what's an area address (without
pmailkeey wrote:
johnw wrote:
Forest=natural ?
isn’t that natural=wood?
I don't know the difference between a wood and a forest!
landuse=forest and natural=wood are a poor example for historical
reasons, when some thought that natural=wood together with
landuse=forest was redundant, when it's
Postcodes don't have addresses, but addresses can have postcodes. I say
can have and not have as addresses can exist without postcodes, for
example when the local authority has named the roads in a new estate but
the postcodes have not been allocated yet. You need to be able to talk
about
W dniu 29.05.2015 13:47, pmailkeey . napisał(a):
On 29 May 2015 at 12:42, Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl wrote:
W dniu 29.05.2015 13:34, John Willis napisał(a):
I know there is a way to tag what the building as to what it was
initially used for - but i don't think that is the proper way
(afaik).
Sent from my iPhone
On May 29, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl wrote:
W dniu 29.05.2015 3:54, John Willis napisał(a):
Currently, building=industrial +landuse=industrial has usurped
man_made=works completely.
I think of building=industrial like a building=church - it's
On 29 May 2015 at 12:27, John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote:
On May 29, 2015, at 7:35 PM, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote:
There are no man made trees in
the forest, they all grow naturally.
Man can plant a natural tree - or it could self-seed.
In osm there is a distinction
That is just one of the common meanings of dock. Another common meaning is
as a synonym for pier, an above-water structure used to give access to a ship.
On May 29, 2015 3:41:23 AM Malcolm Herring malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com
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On 29/05/2015 08:41, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
Why is this
On May 29, 2015, at 7:35 PM, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote:
There are no man made trees in
the forest, they all grow naturally.
Man can plant a natural tree - or it could self-seed.
In osm there is a distinction between cultivated and constructed. We already do
this will all
W dniu 29.05.2015 13:34, John Willis napisał(a):
I know there is a way to tag what the building as to what it was
initially used for - but i don't think that is the proper way (afaik).
So what do you think about building=church + amenity=museum then?
I think we need some clear, general
On 29 May 2015 at 12:42, Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl wrote:
W dniu 29.05.2015 13:34, John Willis napisał(a):
I know there is a way to tag what the building as to what it was
initially used for - but i don't think that is the proper way (afaik).
So what do you think about building=church +
On 29 May 2015 at 11:43, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
On 2015-05-29 11:58, pmailkeey . wrote:
On 29 May 2015 at 07:34, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
Only Royal Mail think Chepstow is in Gloucestershire, England. Normal
people think it is in Monmouthshire,
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:33 AM, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Did you ever look at the example that I've send you ? (probably not
because it doesn't fit in your idea of addresses)
Probably !
The house numbers are used to identity flats, not the building.
Now you're
On 29 May 2015 at 03:06, John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote:
On May 28, 2015, at 6:22 PM, AYTOUN RALPH ralph.ayt...@ntlworld.com
wrote:
And with this argument for a hierarchical approach we are back to the
start point of umbrella tags that cover all possibilities which is
On 29/05/2015 09:45, pmailkeey . wrote:
Is, then, a dry dock an empty body of water?
Only when it is pumped dry.
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On 29 May 2015 at 07:18, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
That's a circular definition. What is the actual difference between the
two types of address, in your model?
Only 1 type of address, just attached to a different type object.
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On 29 May 2015 at 10:56, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:33 AM, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Did you ever look at the example that I've send you ? (probably not
because it doesn't fit in your idea of addresses)
Probably !
The house
On 29 May 2015 at 03:27, John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote:
On May 29, 2015, at 11:02 AM, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com
wrote:
And that ties in nicely with my thoughts of removing the words and
generating tags and values by symbols !
Mapping by emoji! Just put a hot dog symbol in
W dniu 29.05.2015 3:54, John Willis napisał(a):
Currently, building=industrial +landuse=industrial has usurped
man_made=works completely.
I think of building=industrial like a building=church - it's just a
form, we need some way to describe the function, just like we do with
On 29 May 2015 at 07:34, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
Postcodes don't have addresses, but addresses can have postcodes. I say
can have and not have as addresses can exist without postcodes, for
example when the local authority has named the roads in a new estate but
the
On 29 May 2015 at 07:36, Lauri Kytömaa lkyto...@gmail.com wrote:
pmailkeey wrote:
johnw wrote:
Forest=natural ?
isn’t that natural=wood?
I don't know the difference between a wood and a forest!
landuse=forest and natural=wood are a poor example for historical
reasons, when some
On 29 May 2015 at 05:47, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:
according to this wiki page there is a difference between
man_made=communications_tower
and
man_made=tower
tower:type=communications
and then there is also
man_made=mast
tower:type=communications
pretty easy to
On 29 May 2015 at 06:14, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:39 AM, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Addresses are used to identify buildings. Not all buildings need to be
identified.
Did you ever look at the example that I've send you ? (probably
I would like to make the decision based on the usage of a dock.
Such dock=tidal would never be used to pump the dock dry, but to keep a
fixed water level, I think.
Then the usage of dock=drydock would be associated to the purpose of dry
docks.
At Bremerhaven the structures which are described
On 2015-05-29 11:58, pmailkeey . wrote:
On 29 May 2015 at 07:34, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
Only Royal Mail think Chepstow is in Gloucestershire, England. Normal people
think it is in Monmouthshire, Wales. This is the correct postal address:
1 Bigstone Meadow
Tutshill
Pole without a pole = pole? I am confused. What sort of structure are you
describing?
On May 29, 2015 5:48:33 AM pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 29 May 2015 at 05:47, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:
according to this wiki page there is a difference between
Zip codes, in the USA, are the same way. They are intended for the post
office's routing, and don't necessarily correspond to administrative
divisions of the land. A given plot of land may be in one administrative
division for tax purposes, yet be lumped into a neighboring division for
On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 12:47 +0100, pmailkeey . wrote:
On 29 May 2015 at 12:42, Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl wrote:
W dniu 29.05.2015 13:34, John Willis napisał(a):
I know there is a way to tag what the building as to
what it was
On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 12:57 +0100, pmailkeey . wrote:
For some strange reason, RM chose settlements rather than counties to
determine postcodes.
They chose where the sorting offices were and from that where the lines
of communication went, that is why Market Bosworth (a long way inside
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 03:29:53PM -0500, Brad Neuhauser wrote:
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Richard ricoz@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 01:09:56PM -0500, Brad Neuhauser wrote:
If this is like many fuel stations, it's probably just a roof with no
walls. Typically,
On 29/05/2015 13:16, John Eldredge wrote:
That is just one of the common meanings of dock. Another common meaning
is as a synonym for pier, an above-water structure used to give access
to a ship.
You are referring to the en-us usage of the word dock, which covers
piers, pontoons the like.
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Malcolm Herring
malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com wrote:
On 29/05/2015 08:41, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
Why is this a property of the dock,
rather than a property of the water body.
A dock is a body of water. It may or may not be separated from a
connecting river
I would like to ask a question about Wiki page for shop=hifi - there's a
suggestion for merging it with shop=electronics, however there's only
one statement on discussion page and it's 4 years old, so it looks like
this proposition is not valid anymore:
On 29 May 2015 at 13:06, Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl wrote:
W dniu 29.05.2015 13:47, pmailkeey . napisał(a):
On 29 May 2015 at 12:42, Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl wrote:
W dniu 29.05.2015 13:34, John Willis napisał(a):
I know there is a way to tag what the building as to what it was
initially
On 29 May 2015 at 15:34, Arch Arch 7h3.a...@gmail.com wrote:
There do exist church buildings which are no longer in use as place of
worships. Those can be tagged with building=church without
amenity=place_of_worship
See:
On 30/05/2015 9:40 AM, pmailkeey . wrote:
On 29 May 2015 at 13:06, Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl
mailto:daniel@ko%C4%87.pl wrote:
W dniu 29.05.2015 13:47, pmailkeey . napisał(a):
On 29 May 2015 at 12:42, Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl
mailto:daniel@ko%C4%87.pl wrote:
Sent from my iPhone
On May 29, 2015, at 9:28 PM, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote:
Although not the type of amenity estate agents usually describe.
[pure speculation on my part] that is because the amenity tag originally was
for the amenities of a town.
Over time, as tagging
On May 30, 2015, at 12:41 AM, Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl wrote:
But if not, we have no system, just historical cases and a lot of exceptions.
I think it's time to try to make some rules instead.
I though there was some tag prefix like disused: or abandoned: that could be
used with the
On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 3:01 AM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
If museums are not an amenity but building? Are all mappable 'museums'
buildings? I don't know.
No, you're right, there are museums in parks. see e.g.[1] located here [2],
which is unfortunately still mapped as a node. But
If anyone is interested in the data model used by Royal Mail in UK
addresses, this will tell you loads:
http://www.poweredbypaf.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Latest-Programmers_guide_Edition-7-Version-6.pdf
[1]
Warning: you may find yourself uttering things in rather
unparliamentary
Am 29.05.2015 um 14:06 schrieb Daniel Koć:
W dniu 29.05.2015 13:47, pmailkeey . napisał(a):
On 29 May 2015 at 12:42, Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl wrote:
W dniu 29.05.2015 13:34, John Willis napisał(a):
I know there is a way to tag what the building as to what it was
initially used for - but i
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