Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ? (a typical OSM story)

2014-04-10 Thread André Pirard
n nodes or ways on the wiki page (as it is currently). In fact, we should recommend against putting on ways. 2014-04-09 16:1

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-10 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-04-10 16:59, Pieren wrote : On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Florian Schäfer flor...@schaeferban.de wrote: True, in the most cases it is not important. But sometimes it is, for example in my T-deadend example, mentioned on this ML. All cases can be covered by the tagging on nodes.

[Tagging] noexit=yes : the outcome

2014-04-14 Thread André Pirard
Hi, Side note: Please note that I just found two versions of the "Use the noexit=yes tag..." text. One ahead that says that it must be used only on nodes and the former one inside that says that it can be used on ways too.  I left the newcomer where it was: ahead

Re: [Tagging] layer=-1, rivers, bridges and tunnels

2014-04-22 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-04-21 22:20, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : 2014-04-21 20:48 GMT+02:00 Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com mailto:ricoz@gmail.com: Without any additional tags like tunnel=* or covered=*, a layer=-1 river shouldn't be rendered differently than a layer=1 or even in the

Re: [Tagging] small change to turn restriction relation tagging

2014-04-23 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-04-22 23:46, Richard Welty wrote : i would like to add emergency (for emergency vehicles) to the list of vehicle types for the except tag. Supposing that emergency vehicles can do almost everything (who would tell a fire van for example not to drive on the wrong side over some distance

Re: [Tagging] small change to turn restriction relation tagging

2014-04-23 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-04-23 16:37, Richard Welty wrote : On 4/23/14 10:14 AM, André Pirard wrote: On 2014-04-22 23:46, Richard Welty wrote : i would like to add emergency (for emergency vehicles) to the list of vehicle types for the except tag. Supposing that emergency vehicles can do almost everything

Re: [Tagging] Tagging natural or informal swimming holes?

2014-04-25 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-04-25 08:03, Bryce Nesbitt wrote : How best should I tag informal swimming areas?  These typically have no lifeguard or facilities. An example deep-content site for these types of holes is:

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] #5163: paths and tracks rendering indistinguishable: your opinion?

2014-05-19 Thread André Pirard
Hi, This is about OSM ticket https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/5163: The rendering of highway=path and highway=track is barely distinguishable. For example, many huge width highway=residential continue to an extra thin =track and then invisibly change to a =path. Just like on my National

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] #5163: paths and tracks rendering indistinguishable: your opinion?

2014-05-19 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-05-19 18:35, SomeoneElse wrote : André Pirard wrote: Hi, This is about OSM ticket https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/5163: The rendering of highway=path and highway=track is barely distinguishable. Just my 2p, but personally I don't think that the rendering of highway=track

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] #5163: paths and tracks rendering indistinguishable: your opinion?

2014-05-19 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-05-19 19:41, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote : On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 2:38 PM, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Did you make that test: asking people which is track or path? Where walkers and tractors would go? Isn't this the job of the map key? Strangely, I was just looking

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] Neighborhood nodes

2014-05-26 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-05-26 18:10, Marc Gemis wrote : I have the following problem with Nominatim: http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=36580812 It tells me that is part of the neighbourhood "Bosstraat".

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes (again) (and again)

2014-05-30 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-05-30 18:47, SomeoneElse wrote : We had a long discussion in https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2014-April/017247.html and now I saw in the English wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:noexit

[Tagging] noexit=yes wiki page update

2014-06-01 Thread André Pirard
High, During the discussion of this tag, it was said that a sure culprit for incorrect noexit=yes tags, is a misleading phrasing Use the noexit=yes tag at the end of a highway http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway=* to indicate that there is no possibility to travel further by any

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes wiki page update

2014-06-02 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-06-01 21:17, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote : Can't the wiki page be protected? Would you do the updates, corrections and translation? I think it should just be mandatory to prepare/publish any substantial change on the sister mailing list.

Re: [Tagging] Wiki edits, building tags on nodes versus areas

2014-06-04 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-06-04 19:05, Peter Wendorff wrote : Am 04.06.2014 18:43, schrieb Andrew Hain: Over the past few days there have been a number of wiki edits (mainly but not entirely in German) stating that shop=* and similar tags, contrary to the “One feature, one OSM

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] #5163: paths and tracks rendering indistinguishable: your opinion?

2014-06-05 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-05-19 18:12, André Pirard wrote : This is about OSM ticket https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/5163 (obsolete): The rendering of highway=path and highway=track is barely distinguishable. ... In summary, I don't know how many of you appreciate to tag with this result where

Re: [Tagging] Wiki edits, building tags on nodes versus areas

2014-06-06 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-06-05 17:03, Tod Fitch wrote : On Jun 5, 2014, at 3:03 AM, Tobias Knerr wrote: Am 04.06.2014 22:35, schrieb André Pirard: That's another new tagging system though. And even doing it like this breaks down when there is more than one shop in the building. Therefore I believe

[Tagging] generalized survey and consequences

2014-06-09 Thread André Pirard
Hi, Some data of the map changes often, in particular what's on the road: traffic signs, bus lines etc. It would be interesting if someone tackling a region could determine what in his interests was checked the longest ago.  Hence the need for a date at the

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] generalized survey and consequences

2014-06-09 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-06-09 11:59, Glenn Plas wrote : On 09-06-14 08:31, André Pirard wrote: Hi, Some data of the map changes often, in particular what's on the road: traffic signs, bus lines etc. It would

Re: [Tagging] generalized survey and consequences

2014-06-09 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-06-09 19:25, SomeoneElse wrote : Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Actually the source:maxspeed tag was discussed years ago (2009 IIRR) on this list and by the time approved. The idea to use maxspeed:type instead is very new compared to this, and there wasn't any actual proposal to see

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] generalized survey : proposed wiki update

2014-06-14 Thread André Pirard
Hi, Following this discussion here is a proposed clarification to Key:source http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source. The goal is to define the word, make date mandatory, use ISO format, define per source tag meaning. Is there any objection or suggestion for changes? *survey* -mm[-dd]

Re: [Tagging] RFC: Door Values

2014-06-15 Thread André Pirard
Am 10.06.2014 21:51, schrieb Michael Maier: So I created a Proposal Page for the values of the 'door' key: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/door RFC phase is now open! +1 also relevant to dogs, unfortunately ;-) doors can also be between parts of a building (rooms).

Re: [Tagging] Emergency Access

2014-06-15 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-06-15 17:07, Andreas Goss wrote : So I got a bit of work done with the WikiProject Emergency Cleanup, but now I'm not really sure about emergency access. - Is there a difference between service=emergency_access, access=emergency and emergency=yes(on roads)? As I recall my readings

Re: [Tagging] Reviewing the use of addr:housename

2014-06-15 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-06-15 16:34, Matthijs Melissen wrote : On 14 Jun 2014 18:25, Andrew Hain andrewhain...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: The uses of the tag addr:housename in the database[1] does not match documentation[2] well. A high prroportion of uses are accidental I also think addr:housename should only be

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] generalized survey : proposed wiki update

2014-06-15 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-06-15 22:11, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : Am 15/giu/2014 um 02:40 schrieb David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net: Interestingly, its already contains the recommendation "source:name=survey 10 November 2012" - I was not aware of that

Re: [Tagging] No abbreviations in names edge case

2014-06-18 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-06-18 13:27, François Lacombe wrote : 2014-06-18 11:50 GMT+02:00 François Lacombe francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eu mailto:francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eu: Could someone precise me why abbreviations should always be avoided in tagging please ? I

Re: [Tagging] Emergency Access

2014-06-18 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-06-15 20:44, Peter Wendorff wrote : Hi Andreas, IMHO - access=emergency is a basic access restriction, which states that only emergency vehicles are allowed here (unless otherwise specified). According to Key:access http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access, there is no

Re: [Tagging] Emergency Access

2014-06-19 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-06-19 01:49, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : Am 19/giu/2014 um 00:38 schrieb André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com: To exclude all other vehicles, one must add (see key=access category tree http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access#Land

[Tagging] Where do source tags belong?

2014-06-26 Thread André Pirard
Hi, I wonder if this phrase without an explanation link http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source contains appropriate instructions (or just press news): *Since the introduction of changesets these tags are often added as changeset http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Changeset tags rather

Re: [Tagging] Where do source tags belong?

2014-06-30 Thread André Pirard
#Indiquer_la_source. Jo 2014-06-26 14:21 GMT+02:00 Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com mailto:danstowell+...@gmail.com: 2014-06-26 12:44 GMT+01:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com: Hi, I wonder if this phrase without an explanation link http

Re: [Tagging] man_made=pipeline - is onewayness implied?

2014-07-05 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-07-05 14:50, Peter Wendorff wrote : Hi, so you would call the Mittellandkanal, connecting Elbe and Weser in Germany a lake? I agree with Bulwersator. A canal does not necessarily have a flow direction. It may be built for water transport (then it might

Re: [Tagging] British English Spelling shop=jewelry

2014-07-16 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-07-16 19:09, Andreas Goss wrote : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/BE-Spelling_shop%3Djewelry I kept it short ;) And I the think the Subject says it all. The use of jewellers could of course also be considered. BE means Belgium, for those who do like precision.

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging : is it possible?

2014-07-19 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-07-19 08:00, Paul Johnson wrote : I don't see how that's the case, the reason being that the Supreme Court has clearly ruled that tribes are above the state but semi-dependant on the fed, as far as the law is concerned. Furthermore, the state may still intervene, but has the option

Re: [Tagging] RFC: crossing=* (was: highway=speed_camera equivalent for non-speed enforcement types)

2014-07-22 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-07-22 11:01, Jo wrote : FYI it doesn't seem likely that the event of dropping highway=bus_stop or highway=speed_camera will be dropped in a foreseeable future, meaning you'll have to keep double tagging everything. In Belgium all red light cameras do double duty as speed cameras, so I

Re: [Tagging] generalized survey and consequences

2014-07-22 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-06-09 12:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : 2014-06-09 8:31 GMT+02:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com: And that maxspeed thing is the strangest one ever. source=* almost says that source:maxspeed http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki

Re: [Tagging] Mapping cave tunnels passable by human

2014-08-14 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-08-14 07:29, Mateusz Konieczny wrote : I added to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cave#Tagging_in_OSM how these may be mapped (tunnels that are available for humans but closed for typical tourists may be mapped as highway=path with tunnel=yes and access=private, and routes

Re: [Tagging] Mapping cave tunnels passable by human

2014-08-14 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-08-14 11:08, Janko Mihelić wrote : Well first, tunnel=yes is obviously wrong. We need to replace this with cave=yes. Other than that, I have no problems with this. If a cave has two cave entrances, then information that they are connected by footpaths is valuable information. Janko

Re: [Tagging] Mapping cave tunnels passable by human

2014-08-14 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-08-14 12:31, Martin Vonwald wrote : 2014-08-14 12:25 GMT+02:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com: On 2014-08-14 11:08, Janko Mihelić wrote : Well first, tunnel=yes is obviously wrong. We need to replace this with cave=yes. Other than

Re: [Tagging] Mapping cave tunnels passable by human

2014-08-14 Thread André Pirard
imagine that's why there is no scheme right now. 2014-08-14 8:22 GMT-03:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com: On 2014-08-14 12:31, Martin Vonwald wrote : 2014-08-14 12:25 GMT+02:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com mailto:a.pirard.pa

Re: [Tagging] Mapping cave tunnels passable by human

2014-08-15 Thread André Pirard
rendering, and especially like this: On 2014-08-14 14:00, SomeoneElse wrote : On 14/08/2014 12:22, André Pirard wrote: I know I still have to learn that OSM is fuzzy, but using cave=yes for paths would first need a definition of it in the highway=* page. No, it really wouldn't(1). Cheers

[Tagging] RENDER

2014-08-15 Thread André Pirard
Hi, It's a well known fact that many people complain to tag in vain because what they tag doesn't show on the map (e.g. mini-golf vs tennis pitch), because they're told to open a rendering ticket which replies that only official tags are supported, and because they open a vote for an official tag

Re: [Tagging] RENDER

2014-08-20 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-08-15 16:12, André Pirard wrote : Hi, It's a well known fact that many people complain to tag in vain because what they tag doesn't show on the map (e.g. mini-golf vs tennis pitch), because they're told to open a rendering ticket which replies that only official tags are supported

Re: [Tagging] RENDER

2014-08-20 Thread André Pirard
. This map already exists : http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1EYAKZQ31ck/T0iWNbp34wI/BIs/oBJMF_ViWFM/s1600/smarties.jpg -- FrViPofm Le 15/08/2014 16:12, André Pirard a écrit : Hi, It's a well known fact that many people complain to tag in vain because what they tag doesn't show on the map

Re: [Tagging] RENDER

2014-08-20 Thread André Pirard
they don't tag stuff to be rendered with the same style? How do you ensure the map stays usable? regards Peter Am 15.08.2014 um 16:12 schrieb André Pirard: Hi, It's a well known fact that many people complain to tag in vain because what they tag doesn't show on the map (e.g. mini-golf vs

Re: [Tagging] RENDER

2014-08-25 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-08-15 16:12, André Pirard wrote : It's a well known fact that many people complain to tag in vain because what they tag doesn't show on the map (e.g. mini-golf vs tennis pitch), because they're told to open a rendering ticket which replies that only official tags are supported

Re: [Tagging] RENDER

2014-08-25 Thread André Pirard
effects. regards Peter Am 20.08.2014 um 14:46 schrieb André Pirard: On 2014-08-15 16:31, Peter Wendorff wrote : not a good idea IMHO. 1) what is the feature this tag should refer to? Consider a polygon that is tagged as a building (building=yes) and a shop (shop=supermarked) and a Walmart

Re: [Tagging] RENDER

2014-08-27 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-08-26 12:16, Pieren wrote : On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:36 PM, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, this sentence is misunderstood, and by many repliers apparently

Re: [Tagging] RENDER

2014-08-27 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-08-26 13:38, Christian Quest wrote : André I think you missed a major thing about cartography (and topography). As OSM contributors, we're not cartographers but topographers... we record topographic data. Then cartographers use that data, make choices to have some objets of THEIR

Re: [Tagging] RENDER

2014-08-27 Thread André Pirard
Peter Wendorff wrote : Am 27.08.2014 um 17:49 schrieb André Pirard: All the replies in this thread showed absolutely no desire to join the fight and make suggestions, just to disparage the idea. I don't agree here. But the way you proposed for this fight is no

Re: [Tagging] Ablution area

2014-08-30 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-08-30 10:55, Dave Swarthout wrote : FWIW, I traveled extensively in New Zealand a few years ago and there an "ablution block" (or ablution area) is a place in a campground where one washes things — dishes, clothing, etc. That

Re: [Tagging] English translations in non-english countries

2014-09-15 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-09-13 17:02, Matthijs Melissen wrote : On 13 September 2014 15:41, Satoshi IIDA nyamp...@gmail.com wrote: But a few insists the bilingual RENDERING on osm.org or on other alternative (apps or tiles or so). This suggestion is in fact currently under discussion:

Re: [Tagging] Watermill attributes

2014-12-13 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-12-13 16:23, Volker Schmidt wrote : On 13 December 2014 at 12:52, Zecke z...@saeuferleber.de wrote: Am 13.12.2014 12:44, schrieb Volker Schmidt: I like watermills and I would like to be

Re: [Tagging] Accuracy of survey

2014-12-24 Thread André Pirard
Accuracy is indeed a problem. An early OSM update I made was moving a borderline by 250m and put a devotion site from an arrondissement to another. Since then many corrections of more that 5 m, mainly due to user being unaware of Bing's offset (at close zoom of

Re: [Tagging] Accuracy of survey

2014-12-24 Thread André Pirard
Oops, I forgot to finish a phrase... I just checked a place where I had spotted a Bing offset before and that disappeared.  National aerial photos 2009 and 2012 are offset by 2.8m. Bing is almost in the middle. But that's because of a perspective effect. The

Re: [Tagging] Accuracy of survey

2014-12-26 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-12-23 20:01, christian.pietz...@googlemail.com wrote : the problem with nodes is, that they are easily overssen. It would be nice to have the possibility to show a warning when moving an opject with high accuracy. The best examples are GPS reference points like this:

Re: [Tagging] 'Variety' in UK English?

2014-12-29 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-12-29 21:57, Florian Schäfer wrote : Am 29.12.2014 um 21:48 schrieb Steve Doerr: On 29/12/2014 20:36, Steve Doerr wrote: On 29/12/2014 19:41, Guillaume Pratte wrote: We are having a discussion on the wiki about the ‘varieté’ value for the theatre:genre tag values:

Re: [Tagging] Tram tracks running in a road

2015-02-06 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-02-06 21:11, Jo wrote : I think relation street applies to all the way segments of the whole street with the same name (if in the same municipality), but I didn't check to be honest. Those kinds of relations are made to unsplit

Re: [Tagging] Nominatim mysteries

2015-02-11 Thread André Pirard
ot allowed. André. On 11/02/2015 10:19 AM, André Pirard wrote: Hi, Can anyone make sense out of this? About:  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/Special_

Re: [Tagging] Nominatim mysteries

2015-02-13 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-02-12 05:28, Marc Gemis wrote : The Nominatim FAQ [1] mentions 2 sources [2], [3] to report problems and it also has the text You can also contact the developers on IRC http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IRC on channel #osm-nominatim.

Re: [Tagging] Nominatim mysteries

2015-02-17 Thread André Pirard
a warning to the specs to at least spare people's time. Cheers André. On 2015-02-11 00:19, André Pirard wrote : Hi, Can anyone make sense out of this? About: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/Special_Phrases/FR Two columns prepended to the table, second: Y=works, N=does not. All

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-27 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-01-27 09:51, Simone Saviolo wrote : 2015-01-26 15:28 GMT+01:00 Steve Doerr doerr.step...@gmail.com mailto:doerr.step...@gmail.com: On 26/01/2015 00:01, Simone Saviolo wrote: http://overpass-turbo.eu/?w=patron_saint%3Ait%3D*+globalR I swear, I would think that

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-25 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-01-26 01:39, Friedrich Volkmann wrote : On 25.01.2015 23:30, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: On 1/26/15, Lukas Sommer sommer...@gmail.com wrote: And I think it makes sense to define explicitly some things in the documentation. Things like – use always (or use never) “Saint”: “Saint Paul”

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-25 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-01-25 17:29, Friedrich Volkmann wrote : Probable all christian churches (buildings) and most chapels are dedicated to patron saints. E.g. the Basilica Sancti Petri (Saint Peter's Basilica) in Vatican City is obviously dedicated to Sanctus Petrus (Saint Peter). As in this example, the

Re: [Tagging] JOSM 7995 (January 2015) released

2015-02-01 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-02-01 16:45, Michał Brzozowski wrote : Oddly enough, there is no info on the JOSM start page. I thought this info gets updated automatically. I did clear the cache, btw. It's a plain Web page https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/StartupPage and you should try to find why you don't see it.

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-28 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-01-28 13:43, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : 2015-01-27 11:42 GMT+01:00 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com mailto:simone.savi...@gmail.com: On 2015-01-27 11:25, André Pirard wrote : You should urgently warn the Vatican https://www.google.be/search?q=site:va%20%22sainte

Re: [Tagging] Boundary Relations. What's a subarea used for?

2015-01-11 Thread André Pirard
Hi, Look at the Belgium relation http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/52411 and, while hiding the subareas (in left pane), try to figure with that map the *administrative tree* (regions, provinces) using the borderlines. You won't. Now look at the subareas and something you will notice is that

Re: [Tagging] Boundary Relations. What's a subarea used for?

2015-01-11 Thread André Pirard
Hi Fred, I have time for one topic tonight. On 2015-01-11 22:04, Frederik Ramm wrote : Moreover, it is straightforward for a consumer program like OSM.org to use the subareas to draw the outline of the regions, provinces, etc. inside the country map or to do other things like measuring

Re: [Tagging] Nominatim mysteries

2015-02-12 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-02-12 05:28, Marc Gemis wrote : The Nominatim FAQ [1] mentions 2 sources [2], [3] to report problems and it also has the text You can also contact the developers on IRC http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IRC on channel #osm-nominatim.

[Tagging] Nominatim mysteries

2015-02-10 Thread André Pirard
Hi, Can anyone make sense out of this? About: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/Special_Phrases/FR Two columns prepended to the table, second: Y=works, N=does not. All OSM queries are appended with the place name Dolembreux. Seeing that #1 works, I add the alternate #2 and it doesn't.

[Tagging] Is what we are doing useful? (OSM.org map case)

2015-03-21 Thread André Pirard
Hi, I think that one good way to promote OSM is to teach the general public to make references to the main Map http://www.openstreetmap.org. I know persons writing to 100s of people who could write things like the rendezvous is here

Re: [Tagging] Historic tower

2015-03-20 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-03-20 18:15, Volker Schmidt wrote : On 20 March 2015 at 17:48, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote: historic=1200 (for precise minds

Re: [Tagging] domestic fuel transport delivery мазут

2015-03-08 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-03-08 22:47, Philip Barnes wrote : On Sun, 2015-03-08 at 14:47 +0100, André Pirard wrote: Hi, I've tried to no avail those keywords for what I suppose you understand what I mean. A man doing his business of delivering fuel with his lorry in addition to his amenity=fuel. All

[Tagging] domestic fuel transport delivery мазут

2015-03-08 Thread André Pirard
Hi, I've tried to no avail those keywords for what I suppose you understand what I mean. A man doing his business of delivering fuel with his lorry in addition to his amenity=fuel. All the results I've got were pipelines (of course;-) ), humanitarian, and foreign countries as usually called

Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

2015-03-26 Thread André Pirard
Title: Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation Hi, So, the conclusion of my Loomio test is that it does not let the user choose which Google account it uses during account creation, it uses the connected account and, despite the user cancels the Login operation,

[Tagging] My goodness!

2015-02-27 Thread André Pirard
Goodjour Bonday, Anyone noticed this? New icon next to Search GO Or was I absent minded? Amazed, André. ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Tagging accepted payments at each toll lane

2015-03-03 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-03-03 17:02, Jake Wasserman wrote : I'm trying to capture the accepted payment for each lane at a toll booth. I haven't been able to find any other examples of this and I'm hoping for some pointers here. One thought is to use the :lanes suffix in conjunction with payment:* So for

Re: [Tagging] Loomio evaluation

2015-03-23 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-03-23 01:18, Dave Swarthout wrote : I'll second the notion that we need something better than the current system. It is an anachronism! My first look at Loomio was good, I was impressed, but my immediate thought was, it'll never get accepted into OSM On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:57 AM,

Re: [Tagging] Artist studio?

2015-04-26 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-04-26 04:46, Clifford Snow wrote : On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Am 25.04.2015 um 02:04 schrieb johnw jo...@mac.com:

Re: [Tagging] Artist studio?

2015-04-29 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-04-27 09:59, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : 2015-04-26 10:02 GMT+02:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com: Are we speaking of artists or of studios? Can't artists perform in various places, e.g. at home? After defining artist_studio

Re: [Tagging] Roads with motor vehicle access limited to residents of a specific town

2015-05-11 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-05-10 15:33, Volker Schmidt wrote : We do have here roads where access with motor vehicles is limited to residents plus residents of the town, where the road is. Example: http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/H5QZAcvCLQBwhbF4u2mq7w (zoom in to read the details) How do I tag such situation?

Re: [Tagging] access tags (was contact: tags)

2015-05-11 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-05-11 09:27, Bryce Nesbitt wrote : On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 11:31 PM, Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com wrote: Also, it would break all current data consumers.

[Tagging] On appointment restaurant

2015-05-13 Thread André Pirard
Hi, Either opening_hours=on_appointment is missing or amenity=restaurant lacks a tag or an explanation. It is a restaurant indeed, but only hired for private group events like marriages. It is not an amenity=community_centre but it's also what you call a craft=caterer. How do I map that?

Re: [Tagging] surface=brick - surface=bricks?

2015-05-14 Thread André Pirard
On 11.05.2015 22:40, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Is there any good reason to avoid changing existing surface=brick to surface=bricks? Yes. Not having to count and tag the number of bricks ;-) brick = the material of which such blocks are made http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/brick?s=t

Re: [Tagging] On appointment restaurant

2015-05-15 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-05-15 10:09, Robin `ypid` Schneider wrote : On 14.05.2015 23:17, André Pirard wrote: On 2015-05-13 16:49, Robin `ypid` Schneider wrote : Hi This can already be done, no problem. It is even described on the key page [1]. Just search for on appointment. Typical of that page, you

Re: [Tagging] Tagging FOR the renderer

2015-05-15 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-05-16 01:40, Frederik Ramm wrote : Hi, On 05/16/2015 12:03 AM, pmailkeey . wrote: I don't know whether this has been discussed or even mooted before... Often. Tagging for the renderer is natural. Mappers, especially newbies will be disappointed their pet new feature they've just

Re: [Tagging] Tagging FOR the renderer

2015-05-18 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-05-16 20:31, Marc Gemis wrote : On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 5:01 AM, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2015-05-16 01:40, Frederik Ramm wrote : Thing is, there is no THE map. There's tons of maps in various colour schemes

[Tagging] housenumber on node and area

2015-05-20 Thread André Pirard
Hi, We know that addr:housenumber http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr=* can be tagged on nodes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses#How_to_map_addresses and that it's very convenient. A problem in tagging the number on a node *instead* of on an area is that someone making a nice

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

2015-05-21 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-05-21 01:51, pmailkeey . wrote : On 20 May 2015 at 14:10, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We know that addr:housenumber http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr=* can be tagged on nodes http

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

2015-05-21 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-05-20 19:26, Andreas Goss wrote : That is the same number both on a node (once) and on the way/relation *that this node belongs to* (once)? Do you mean area when you say way? I think if a building has the address then you should not have a node for just the address. If it's a

Re: [Tagging] Node objects in tunnels or on bridges?

2015-06-08 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-06-08 13:29, Richard wrote : Hi, quite often there are node-type objects on bridges or in tunnels. What to do with them? Tunnel or bridge tags are dfined only for ways. In my mind: bridges are piece of concrete below the roads (tarmac) and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Blood donation 2

2015-06-20 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-06-20 14:46, Ruben Maes wrote : After the proposal Donation was rejected, I tried to address the issues that were raised in a new proposal using healthcare=blood_donation: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Blood_donation_2 You are of course welcome to point out

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - wedding_reception

2015-06-24 Thread André Pirard
Hi, For what Marc describes, I've been recommended this https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/344739636 (it's in Belgium). building http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building?uselang=en-US yes amenity http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:amenity?uselang=en-US events_venue

[Tagging] Tags of a node representing an area (polygon or relation)

2015-07-01 Thread André Pirard
Hi, An OSM element is normally made of one physical object tag and a number of tags describing the attributes of that object or of the other attributes (such as (fictitious example) building:tower:antenna:gsm=yes). This applies to areas and nodes. Some people prefer to tag the attributes to a

Re: [Tagging] To tag opening_hours=by appointment

2015-07-02 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-06-30 14:04, Marc Gemis wrote : Everything between quotes is considered a comment, and can contain values in the local language (e.g 123 nach␣Vereinbarung http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/opening_hours=%22nach%20Vereinbarung%22 -- German for by appointment) IMHO this means

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Blood donation 2

2015-06-29 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-06-22 23:20, Holger Jeromin wrote : Ruben Maes ruben.mae...@gmail.com Wrote in message: After the proposal Donation was rejected, I tried to address the issues that were raised in a new proposal using healthcare=blood_donation:

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating wikipedia Tag

2015-05-25 Thread André Pirard
On 25 May 2015 at 13:18, Thorsten Alge li...@thorsten-alge.de wrote: Since wikidata will be the center of all Wikimedia wikis it might be better to link to wikidata items instead of wikipedia article. Thats why I wonder what you think of deprecating the wikipedia tags (NOT DELETING any of

Re: [Tagging] Deprecating wikipedia Tag

2015-05-25 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-05-25 15:29, Marc Gemis wrote : On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 3:08 PM, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote: I already replied that I wonder what's the idea behind that enforcement. Why wouldn't Wikidata be used also rather than instead

Re: [Tagging] Replace tagging mailling list with Loomio?

2015-05-23 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-05-23 14:17, Hans De Kryger wrote : How's this going? Any decisions? https://www.loomio.org/d/gW9avzUK/replace-tagging-mailling-list-with-loomio Is that an opinion? I have

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

2015-05-21 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-05-21 11:33, Marc Gemis wrote : On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 11:13 AM, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Info is routinely in two places, e.g. building and associatedStreet, to cope with software or people that do not support one

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

2015-05-21 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-05-21 12:24, pmailkeey . wrote : On 21 May 2015 at 10:13, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2015-05-21 01:51, pmailkeey . wrote

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